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Onyx Nyx
Euphoria Released Verge of Collapse
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Posted - 2013.07.04 14:59:00 -
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Six Six Six wrote:Ace Uoweme wrote:Onyx Nyx wrote:We blew up a statue in Jita and Amarr in protest and CCP went from Incarna and $1000 designer jeans to fixing the game.
Signed, The EVE Community
PS. zero fucks given. Go back to WoW. I play WoW and EvE. Can't go back because I'm already there. Which may not be an option for you even, since it seems you like to be kicked from EVERY game you prefer to destroy. Signed, A Multi-gamer I used to play both. Last character I played in WoW was a goblin. Got my account frozen, something to do with RMT, but as I don't use unofficial mods of any type (never have, except voice software) and nobody else uses the computer I knew the charges were false. So two hours later after some emails I got the account reopened (confirming they had no evidence and they obviously didn't investigate). Anyway a month later, the same thing happened, another two hours wasted getting them to unfreeze the account. So I asked how am I going to stop you doing this again, they suggested altering my play style. Anyway it happened again, got it overturned again, shortly after that I decided this isn't worth the effort, so just stopped playing it. Awhile later they sent me a beta invite for their pandas, needless to say I didn't bother.
Sounds like me. I play Star Craft 2 and I got the beta invite to some end of the world expansion with big angry dragon. "Sold" the thing to my RL buddy who was frothing with jealousy, for a couple of pints.
I kill kittens, and puppies and bunnies. I maim toddlers and teens and then more. |
Ace Uoweme
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
363
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Posted - 2013.07.04 15:00:00 -
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Adunh Slavy wrote:Ace Uoweme wrote: You want changes or improvements help, don't go threatening the game itself. It looks bad. It shows the game attracts the worst in gaming. That makes everything look bad, and don't think the industry doesn't read these forums, either.
You must be new around here.
Not really.
And what I see here is what I seen on countless other game forums. Think EvE is really that special?
Adunh Slavy wrote:[We know CCP listens and responds, sometimes slower than we like and sometimes with alarming speed. Sometimes CCP screws up, sometimes they don't. When we think they are headed the wrong way, we let them know. Only once has CCP and the player base had a serious disagreement, in my memory anyway. (Granted T20 and the carrier change created some big kerfluffles, but not to the degree of the summer of rage.) The disagreement was centered around the whole micro transactions question and the integrity of the sandbox with regards to pay to win aka golden ammo.
This reminds me of the comments seen when SOE was introducing RMT in EQII.
Players rant and rave. But they usually don't threaten their devs. That isn't a very constructive way to communicate!
Adunh Slavy wrote:So far this thread and the mood I sense from the community is no where near making any credible threats.
Maybe instead of asking others to inject social skill books, you may ask yourself to do the same, because I already commented on some of those threats already.
Get out play some more games. See the industry for what it is. See what they can or can't reasonably do.
Just ranting because you see EA, doesn't do any good. It's like ranting about Microsoft. It's still in business and making a nice profit, no matter how many complain. In the end they still win, and people are still mad. Worthless. It isn't worth the headache or a heart attack. Which is why most gamers don't partake in forum posting (which devs finally are getting wise too). "In a world of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act." ~George Orwell
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Adunh Slavy
1089
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Posted - 2013.07.04 15:08:00 -
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Ace Uoweme wrote:
Get out play some more games. See the industry for what it is. See what they can or can't reasonably do.
Just ranting because you see EA, doesn't do any good. It's like ranting about Microsoft.
You seem to do a lot more ranting than I do. So I'll take your advice with a grain of salt. As for insights into big software companies and what they listen to, I'll take my experience as a blue badge at MS over your suppositions, as truth. |
Ace Uoweme
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
363
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Posted - 2013.07.04 15:33:00 -
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Adunh Slavy wrote:Ace Uoweme wrote:
Get out play some more games. See the industry for what it is. See what they can or can't reasonably do.
Just ranting because you see EA, doesn't do any good. It's like ranting about Microsoft.
You seem to do a lot more ranting than I do. So I'll take your advice with a grain of salt. As for insights into big software companies and what they listen to, I'll take my experience as a blue badge at MS over your suppositions, as truth.
Quote:"Anyone who conducts an argument by appealing to authority is not using his intelligence; he is just using his memory." ~Leonardo da Vinci
And I'll take his experience over a faceless blue badge at MS as some truth. "In a world of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act." ~George Orwell
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Adunh Slavy
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Posted - 2013.07.04 15:49:00 -
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You cite an appeal to authority? I did not appeal to an authority as I do not lack the experince myself, thus I have no need to appeal to the authority of another. If you're going cite a fallacy, you should know what it means first. |
Ace Uoweme
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
363
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Posted - 2013.07.04 17:08:00 -
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Adunh Slavy wrote: Clueless .
Until that badge has a name to share, for all anyone knows you're 15 years-old and just want to work at MS.
This is the internet after all. "In a world of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act." ~George Orwell
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Josef Djugashvilis
Acme Mining Corporation
1290
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Posted - 2013.07.04 17:11:00 -
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Adunh Slavy wrote:Ace Uoweme wrote: You want changes or improvements help, don't go threatening the game itself. It looks bad. It shows the game attracts the worst in gaming. That makes everything look bad, and don't think the industry doesn't read these forums, either.
You must be new around here. We know CCP listens and responds, sometimes slower than we like and sometimes with alarming speed. Sometimes CCP screws up, sometimes they don't. When we think they are headed the wrong way, we let them know. Only once has CCP and the player base had a serious disagreement, in my memory anyway. (Granted T20 and the carrier change created some big kerfluffles, but not to the degree of the summer of rage.) The disagreement was centered around the whole micro transactions question and the integrity of the sandbox with regards to pay to win aka golden ammo. So far this thread and the mood I sense from the community is no where near making any credible threats. This is a shot across the bow at best, letting CCP know we have not forgotten and we hope they haven't either. The reasonable among us are pretty sure CCP has not forgotten and views, as we do, the integrity of the sandbox as paramount. So go back to whining about WoW, CCP and the core community have a long and healthy relationship. You may not like how it is expressed, but it works, we know it works, they know it works. You don't know it works. You must be new around here. Train forum whining to level 4 at least, and perhaps Social Dynamics ... at least inject the skill book.
A good analysis of how Eve Online works.
It is reading your post that has finally made me realize that after six years, I actually feel that I am part of a great community.
Well said good sir.
If I could give you a 100 likes I would. This is not a signature. |
Adunh Slavy
1090
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Posted - 2013.07.04 17:14:00 -
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Ace Uoweme wrote:Adunh Slavy wrote: Clueless .
Until that badge has a name to share, for all anyone knows you're 15 years-old and just want to work at MS. This is the internet after all.
Certainly a fair statement to make. Not much I am willing to do about it. I will not be sharing my real name with the entire Eve community. You can choose to trust me or not. Your choice. |
Liam Inkuras
Justified Chaos
334
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Posted - 2013.07.04 17:50:00 -
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Onyx Nyx wrote:Ace Uoweme wrote:Onyx Nyx wrote: I guess that is how you must do things when your cash cow continue to bleed subs, Mr. Ghostcrawler. Not many theme parks out there to steal ideas from.
Though if you were to "borrow" ideas from EVE and put them into WoW, you'd be facing a **** storm from butthurt night elf warriors, like Swifty, that would make the whole Diablo 3 Auction House fiasco look like a mere miscommunication.
Hey, at least Blizzard acknowledges it does. Which in gaming is par on course. If you believe no game copies from others, you have been living in a cave. Get out and play more games. See the industry in it's full glory. You'll see elements of each game in the other. I have yet to see a mechanic in EVE that CCP took from another space MMO. Sandbox, theme park or otherwise. If you had only seen my Steam library.. lol! Dueling =3 I wear my goggles at night.
Any spelling/grammatical errors come complimentary with my typing on a phone |
Jarac Raasen
University of Caille Gallente Federation
15
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Posted - 2013.07.04 18:24:00 -
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You cannot compare the Blizzard Community to the CCP Community. The EVE Community is one of the few video game communities that I have seen that will take action if they feel hints of corporate BS. I think the Jita Riots/the Summer of Rage proved that if push comes to shove, the EVE Community is not afraid to express themselves by revolting in-game and even through mass-unsubbing.
Shutting down a forum thread won't do ****. EVE is known for its huge metgame. There are tons of popular EVE sites where people would still express their displeasure. And thanks to the Corp/Alliance mechanics, you can't stop the spread of information and prevent mass demonstrations, as the Jita Riots clearly showed.
The EVE Community is passionate and is one of the few that recognizes that they wield the power. Respect the fans who pay for your product and the money will keep flowing. Treat them like they are idiots and try to pull a fast one and CCP will feel the consequences.
It's one of the reasons why I love EVE over WoW. It feels like it'a the players' world as much as CCP's. |
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KrakizBad
Section 8. Fatal Ascension
1359
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Posted - 2013.07.04 20:09:00 -
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Adunh Slavy wrote:Ace Uoweme wrote:Adunh Slavy wrote: Clueless .
Until that badge has a name to share, for all anyone knows you're 15 years-old and just want to work at MS. This is the internet after all. Certainly a fair statement to make. Not much I am willing to do about it. I will not be sharing my real name with the entire Eve community. You can choose to trust me or not. Your choice.
Not. www.minerbumping.com - because your tears are delicious |
Kitty Bear
Disturbed Friends Of Diazepam Tribal Band
722
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Posted - 2013.07.04 20:11:00 -
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Zah Damaja wrote:DEAR CCP,
I AM OUTRAGED
How can we allow this person of MORALLY QUESTIONABLE STANDING taint the good name of Eve Online: Spaceship Universe.
I will not stand for this CCP.
Sit down then.
hiring & firing policies at CCP might cause some concerns for us it's possible that some people may consider HR decisions confusing, or even insulting.
at the end of the day .... it's none of our business
if you feel particularly strongly regarding this decision you have 2 options
#1: deal with it, and get over it #2 delete everything, unsubscribe
no others ... just those chose now quit the pointless whining |
Angory Gai
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
2
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Posted - 2013.07.04 20:13:00 -
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I HATE anything EA is involved with and now one of the head devs is an old EA? Sucks big time - this is the end of this game you mark mine and everyone else's words. This has bad written all over it - if I see the same **** happening in EA games as I do here I will quit this game for good. |
Clair Bear
Ursine Research and Production
0
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Posted - 2013.07.04 21:22:00 -
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To any of you still thinking this is in any way shape or form a good thing I have just one thing to say:
Real Racing 3.
If you want to see brutal, in your face, "must pay to win or even progress" sort of "microtransactions" you simply must check that bad boy out. It's an EA baby, most likely part of this guy's legacy. And yeah, once again a shining example of how EA killed a promising and loved game company (iOS game company, so you're probably not familiar with it, but still).
I'll TL;DR it for those of you who are lazy. ~$400 real money cars, with a $100 buy-in and $300 in upgrades after you're in. 50 cents for a 10 minute race. It's one of the highest grossing apps on the iPad, up 3 spots since the most egregious money grubbing in the history of the game got bolted on a few days ago.
EA bigshots know how to squeeze the whales and squeeze them hard. To them you're not a customer, you're a "unit", and their biggest challenge is increasing revenue per said "unit." This is an EA bigshot, prepare to be squeezed. |
Rellik B00n
Lethal Death Squad
280
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Posted - 2013.07.04 21:44:00 -
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I would like to answer with some of my favourite quotes from this page:
GÇ£Nobody can go back and start a new beginning, but anyone can start today and make a new ending.GÇ¥ -Maria Robinson
GÇ£By changing nothing, nothing changes.GÇ¥ -Tony Robbins
GÇ£Whenever you find yourself on the side of the majority, itGÇÖs time to pause and reflect.GÇ¥ -Mark Twain
the dice is already rolled, we all know how we will react to certain changes in our universe. Time will tell. Of a request for change ask: Who Benefits? |
Maldiro Selkurk
CHEMO IMMUNO RESISTANT VIRUS strain SELKURK
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Posted - 2013.07.04 21:45:00 -
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Please, please, please just make him CEO so we can fix this borked game and make it what it should have become years ago.
(Maldiro Selkurk has asbestos undergarments molded into his clone flesh, so fire away if you will) |
Spurty
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Posted - 2013.07.04 22:48:00 -
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Origin launcher and single sign on launcher
Wait a minute! --- GÇ£If you think this Universe is bad, you should see some of the others.GÇ¥ GÇò Philip K. **** |
Lykouleon
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
851
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Posted - 2013.07.04 22:54:00 -
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So, when do we get to meet this dude?
I demand a "Hello, I am Sean" thread. Toshiro Ozuwara > GOon cowards come fight Toshiro Ozuwara > Oh wait, you only camp when you got numberssss
I would fully support account bans by ccp for meta type stuff like this. |
Rhapsodae
Bedlam Escapees Silent Requiem
39
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Posted - 2013.07.05 02:22:00 -
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Lykouleon wrote:So, when do we get to meet this dude?
I demand a "Hello, I am Sean" thread.
This
Jitters 4-4: Eve Online Comic. |
Ckra Trald
Stellar Essence STELLAR CONSTELLATION
204
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Posted - 2013.07.05 03:06:00 -
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next, we get snowden
ccp will be immortalized by the community and the human race for hiring terrible people
also eve is dying and shooting the monument causes people like myself who manufacture ammo happy. ^^ poorly made blunt forum post above ^^ |
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Seetesh
RTS - POS Deployments
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Posted - 2013.07.05 06:35:00 -
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And this is the way eve online dies, not in fire but through micro transactions and free to play game models.
Someone keep the guy on a leash and ensure he doesn't destroy this game. |
Miilla
Hulkageddon Orphanage
608
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Posted - 2013.07.05 07:59:00 -
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Rellik B00n wrote:I would like to answer with some of my favourite quotes from this page: GÇ£Nobody can go back and start a new beginning, but anyone can start today and make a new ending.GÇ¥ -Maria Robinson GÇ£By changing nothing, nothing changes.GÇ¥ -Tony Robbins GÇ£Whenever you find yourself on the side of the majority, itGÇÖs time to pause and reflect.GÇ¥ -Mark Twain the dice is already rolled, we all know how we will react to certain changes in our universe. Time will tell.
Interesting you brought DICE into this....ehm Battlefield... |
Jint Hikaru
OffWorld Exploration Inc
672
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Posted - 2013.07.05 08:33:00 -
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Oh my...! EA...
After the fiasco that was SimCity, and the outright lies that EA & Maxis told their player base, I swore to have nothing to do with anything EA ever again.
First thing this guy needs to do is read up on the 'Summer of GoldenAmmo' and 'Greed is Good'. Learn a lesson, and realise that Eve players are a force to be reckoned with.
To put it bluntly... Loose any ****** EA attitude, and welcome to Eve!
Fly safe.
Jint Hikaru - Miner / Salvager / Explorer / SpaceBum In the beginning the Universe was created. This has made a lot of people very angry and been widely regarded as a bad move. |
Ace Uoweme
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
368
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Posted - 2013.07.05 11:04:00 -
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Six Six Six wrote:Ace Uoweme wrote:Onyx Nyx wrote:We blew up a statue in Jita and Amarr in protest and CCP went from Incarna and $1000 designer jeans to fixing the game.
Signed, The EVE Community
PS. zero fucks given. Go back to WoW. I play WoW and EvE. Can't go back because I'm already there. Which may not be an option for you even, since it seems you like to be kicked from EVERY game you prefer to destroy. Signed, A Multi-gamer I used to play both. Last character I played in WoW was a goblin. Got my account frozen, something to do with RMT, but as I don't use unofficial mods of any type (never have, except voice software) and nobody else uses the computer I knew the charges were false. So two hours later after some emails I got the account reopened (confirming they had no evidence and they obviously didn't investigate). Anyway a month later, the same thing happened, another two hours wasted getting them to unfreeze the account. So I asked how am I going to stop you doing this again, they suggested altering my play style. Anyway it happened again, got it overturned again, shortly after that I decided this isn't worth the effort, so just stopped playing it. Awhile later they sent me a beta invite for their pandas, needless to say I didn't bother.
My sis got a permanent ban letter when Blizzard went on a ban wave after the duping incident earlier this year. Avid herbalist (mage needs their flasks!) and she would literally clear MoP of herbs (plus my alt is an Inscriptionist). Said that her actions disturbed the game economy (she doesn't sell them, we use them for ourselves....self-sufficient). Wrote the GM about this, since the herbs don't go on the AH nor any flasks or pots to ruin the economy, and my alt makes things for us to use. But how she got the account reinstated was quite simple: had to have details only the account holder had, and one detail was the game ID from the CD of an expansion (so even if the account was hacked and they got the current game ID that's shows, it doesn't show the previous ID). Fine, got the CDs put in the requested details (secret question answers included). GM was satisfied her account wasn't hacked (despite we have authenticators!!!), and her account was reinstated.
You have to go through the process of identifying who you are to reinstate accounts, with details only the account holder has. And this is important, because so many kids share accounts. They then scream their account was hacked (notice no authenticator too?). Blizzard doesn't know if the screamer is legit or the "hacker" without proof.
$6 or the free Android version of an authenticator also saves a ton of grief for eliminating the SKs on your account (and makes sharing more difficult to avoid "I WAS HACKED!!!" cries). Account details for the rest...keep those CD envelopes! Like MS, WoW is a #1 target for hackers and exploiters, so you need tools to keep your accounts safe.
Which reminds me about EvE: on the account page, can we get even the basic CC details on record (last 4 digits and expiration date like every other site uses)? Didn't realize I still had an expired CC on my accounts (bank renewed the CCs), and knowing that detail is better than trying to trace down why a payment doesn't go through via a bank, as there's no means to check here than manually running it through again (and risk double payments as the bank suggested). "In a world of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act." ~George Orwell
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Josef Djugashvilis
Acme Mining Corporation
1291
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Posted - 2013.07.05 11:08:00 -
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Ace Uoweme wrote:Six Six Six wrote:Ace Uoweme wrote:Onyx Nyx wrote:We blew up a statue in Jita and Amarr in protest and CCP went from Incarna and $1000 designer jeans to fixing the game.
Signed, The EVE Community
PS. zero fucks given. Go back to WoW. I play WoW and EvE. Can't go back because I'm already there. Which may not be an option for you even, since it seems you like to be kicked from EVERY game you prefer to destroy. Signed, A Multi-gamer I used to play both. Last character I played in WoW was a goblin. Got my account frozen, something to do with RMT, but as I don't use unofficial mods of any type (never have, except voice software) and nobody else uses the computer I knew the charges were false. So two hours later after some emails I got the account reopened (confirming they had no evidence and they obviously didn't investigate). Anyway a month later, the same thing happened, another two hours wasted getting them to unfreeze the account. So I asked how am I going to stop you doing this again, they suggested altering my play style. Anyway it happened again, got it overturned again, shortly after that I decided this isn't worth the effort, so just stopped playing it. Awhile later they sent me a beta invite for their pandas, needless to say I didn't bother. My sis got a permanent ban letter when Blizzard went on a ban wave after the duping incident earlier this year. Avid herbalist (mage needs their flasks!) and she would literally clear MoP of herbs (plus my alt is an Inscriptionist). Said that her actions disturbed the game economy (she doesn't sell them, we use them for ourselves....self-sufficient). Wrote the GM about this, since the herbs don't go on the AH nor any flasks or pots to ruin the economy, and my alt makes things for us to use. But how she got the account reinstated was quite simple: had to have details only the account holder had, and one detail was the game ID from the CD of an expansion (so even if the account was hacked and they got the current game ID that's shows, it doesn't show the previous ID). Fine, got the CDs put in the requested details (secret question answers included). GM was satisfied her account wasn't hacked (despite we have authenticators!!!), and her account was reinstated. You have to go through the process of identifying who you are to reinstate accounts, with details only the account holder has. And this is important, because so many kids share accounts. They then scream their account was hacked (notice no authenticator too?). Blizzard doesn't know if the screamer is legit or the "hacker" without proof. $6 or the free Android version of an authenticator also saves a ton of grief for eliminating the SKs on your account (and makes sharing more difficult to avoid "I WAS HACKED!!!" cries). Account details for the rest...keep those CD envelopes! Like MS, WoW is a #1 target for hackers and exploiters, so you need tools to keep your accounts safe. Which reminds me about EvE: on the account page, can we get even the basic CC details on record? Didn't realize I still had an expired CC on my accounts (bank renewed the CCs), and knowing that detail is better than trying to trace down why a payment doesn't go through via a bank, as there's no means to check here than manually running it through again (and risk double payments as the bank suggested).
This forum is for Eve Online.
Please stop rabbiting on about some other game you play.
Thank you. This is not a signature. |
Ace Uoweme
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
368
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Posted - 2013.07.05 11:12:00 -
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Josef Djugashvilis wrote:This forum is for Eve Online.
Please stop rabbiting on about some other game you play.
Thank you.
And please even read before replying (even in italics!).
Thank you. "In a world of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act." ~George Orwell
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ISquishWorms
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Posted - 2013.07.05 11:22:00 -
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Well that is a first for me, felt the need to use the hide post feature. . |
PopeUrban
El Expedicion
3
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Posted - 2013.07.05 11:50:00 -
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Well I'll say this:
He DID stop working at EA.
*shrug*
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Miilla
Hulkageddon Orphanage
609
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Posted - 2013.07.05 12:05:00 -
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PopeUrban wrote:Well I'll say this:
He DID stop working at EA.
*shrug*
Or did he, somebody check his share filings on the SEC :) |
Brainless Bimbo
Pator Tech School Minmatar Republic
71
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Posted - 2013.07.05 14:16:00 -
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The questions that are raised in my poor performing mental facilities is this:
What function in the real world will he have?, produce long term strategy?, maximise short term profit?, change direction of CCP to be even more vanilla?
Why was he chosen for the said function?, CCP public listing?, because he has friends on the board?, because he brings lots of disposable cash with him?, because he-¦s a corporate shill with no real vision?, because the head-hunter recommended him?.
Just because he came from EA is not a slight against him, he may not have agreed with the majority that kept screwing up making him look for other work (doubtful), but you don-¦t get to be on EA-¦s board unless you have a quality that is required in the corporate world (psychopathy).
I got probes from the Rookie-á tutorial, they are indestructible, unforgettable and will never need to be replaced, but maybe i will eventually upgrade them to Sisters that are also unforgettable, indestructible and will never need to be replaced. CCP-¦s New Motto: Shiny over Substance |
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