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theRaptor
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Posted - 2005.12.02 13:30:00 -
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Why are all the drone ships getting mining bonuses? They already have lots of turrets. What about Caldari? We don't have teh turrets? CCP needs to make mining missiles, where you blast of a piece of the rock and suck it into your ship. This would make my cerberus uber.
Please CCP, think of teh Caldari.
Lots of love,
Me.
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Asnar
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Posted - 2005.12.02 13:34:00 -
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You've been reading to many Detaurus posts.
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000Hunter000
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Posted - 2005.12.02 13:40:00 -
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Mining missiles... LMAO!!! 
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Hugh Ruka
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Posted - 2005.12.02 14:01:00 -
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 Originally by: theRaptor
Why are all the drone ships getting mining bonuses? They already have lots of turrets. What about Caldari? We don't have teh turrets? CCP needs to make mining missiles, where you blast of a piece of the rock and suck it into your ship. This would make my cerberus uber.
Please CCP, think of teh Caldari.
Lots of love,
Me.
You must be trolling ...
Using mining drones on a dominix is very effective, so when they get their drone capacity nerfed, they have to get some compensation in the mining bonus.
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theRaptor
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Posted - 2005.12.02 14:10:00 -
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Originally by: Hugh Ruka
Originally by: theRaptor
Why are all the drone ships getting mining bonuses? They already have lots of turrets. What about Caldari? We don't have teh turrets? CCP needs to make mining missiles, where you blast of a piece of the rock and suck it into your ship. This would make my cerberus uber.
Please CCP, think of teh Caldari.
Lots of love,
Me.
You must be trolling ...
Using mining drones on a dominix is very effective, so when they get their drone capacity nerfed, they have to get some compensation in the mining bonus.
And why is the Caldari discriminated so? Why does the drone ships get bonus? Just cause is the way it is is no reason to stay that way.
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Jaketh Ivanes
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Posted - 2005.12.02 14:14:00 -
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What about the minmatar.. they don't have 8 turrets as the Amarr does.. they should get a mining bonus alos then 
But to be honest, if a dom could use 15 mining drones before and now only 5, they should get a compensation for it, as they are the ones getting nerfed, not the caldari  .
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keepiru
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Posted - 2005.12.02 14:16:00 -
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Originally by: theRaptor
Why are all the drone ships getting mining bonuses? They already have lots of turrets. What about Caldari? We don't have teh turrets? CCP needs to make mining missiles, where you blast of a piece of the rock and suck it into your ship. This would make my cerberus uber.
Please CCP, think of teh Caldari.
Lots of love,
Me.
I Agree. And they better release both T1 and T2 mining missiles right off the bat too ;D
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Moominer
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Posted - 2005.12.02 14:16:00 -
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Originally by: theRaptor
And why is the Caldari discriminated so? Why does the drone ships get bonus? Just cause is the way it is is no reason to stay that way.
because caldari don't have any ships with +1 drone per level?
the ships that do, are losing it in RMR, and are getting drone damage/mining drone yield increase instead.
+1 drone per level ships in RMR will only be able to control 5 drones, just like caldari, instead of their 15 vs 10 before. hence the bonus, comprende?
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Ithildin
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Posted - 2005.12.02 14:25:00 -
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If you take the avarage drone mining yield over all ships in EVE on TQ and then compare it to on SiSi (ignoring modules), it is lower on SiSi than on TQ.
It's the same as with drone damage (again, ignoring new modules). With max skills, drone mining yield is the same in RMR as on TQ.
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keepiru
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Posted - 2005.12.02 14:30:00 -
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Because youre ugly 
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theRaptor
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Posted - 2005.12.02 14:30:00 -
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Originally by: Moominer
Originally by: theRaptor
And why is the Caldari discriminated so? Why does the drone ships get bonus? Just cause is the way it is is no reason to stay that way.
because caldari don't have any ships with +1 drone per level?
the ships that do, are losing it in RMR, and are getting drone damage/mining drone yield increase instead.
+1 drone per level ships in RMR will only be able to control 5 drones, just like caldari, instead of their 15 vs 10 before. hence the bonus, comprende?
But drone ships have turrets to!! Caldari dont have many turrets and dont have drones. Why aren;t Caldari allowed to be good miners??
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Grimpak
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Posted - 2005.12.02 14:35:00 -
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Originally by: keepiru
Because youre ugly
yes!
intaki girls > caldari girls (althou deteis ones look cool)
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Com Cam
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Posted - 2005.12.02 14:44:00 -
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Last time I checked info on most of the ships in game, the ONLY "Mining" ships were produced by Ore (the 3 mining barges). The Dominix is a COMBAT ship which is also used to mine, just like the Apocalypse, Megathron, Osprey, and a few others. Some of these ships happen to get a bonus for mining, but their primary design is combat. A well trained Osprey pilot can give a good showing at any mining operation provided you have good mining skills also. Granted you can not fit as many drones in her drone bay, but look at the price tag between an Osprey and a Dominix.
If you are a dedicated miner, train for the Covetor. Currently she is the best mining ship in game. Granted it will take a bit of time (depending on your attributes) but the return in ore mined will be more. With proper planning, you can mine low security belts with the Covetor. You will just have to know what you are doing and have proper protection for her.
I am not sure how "Mining Missiles" would work. A missile can not "suck" rocks into your ship once it is "blasted" from the astroid. I think our best bet may be to stick to the mining lasers. I know it sometimes sucks to have more missile slots on your ship than turrets, but that is what we get being more of a missile specialist. We also use Hybrids, and some of the Dev Blogs indicate slight "adjustments" to some of our ship layouts MIGHT be in the works (MK 2 project for example). These layout changes may not all be in the line of weapons, but some might.
In short, be patient "Grasshopper". If you are a hard core miner, train the Ore ships to maximize on your mining efforts. Keep in mind that the Osprey, even though it is a cruiser, is one hell of a ship to mine with. You will have a difficult time besting it for the ISK. If you do not wish to go the Ore Mining Barge route, get cruiser 5 and use the Osprey (if you wish to stay pure Caldari). Cruiser 5 will open so many more doors for you later (HACs for example) and give you a great mining yield from her 3 lasers as a bi-product.
Have a nice day and fly safe
"Always maintain a rigid state of flexibility"
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Lagar
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Posted - 2005.12.02 14:46:00 -
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caldari is discriminated beceause they were loved before..
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Asnar
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Posted - 2005.12.02 14:47:00 -
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Originally by: theRaptor
Originally by: Moominer
Originally by: theRaptor
And why is the Caldari discriminated so? Why does the drone ships get bonus? Just cause is the way it is is no reason to stay that way.
because caldari don't have any ships with +1 drone per level?
the ships that do, are losing it in RMR, and are getting drone damage/mining drone yield increase instead.
+1 drone per level ships in RMR will only be able to control 5 drones, just like caldari, instead of their 15 vs 10 before. hence the bonus, comprende?
But drone ships have turrets to!! Caldari dont have many turrets and dont have drones. Why aren;t Caldari allowed to be good miners??
Cause you try too look as mean as me, but got the spine and the brain of the amarr. And cry like a gallente.
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Testy Mctest
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Posted - 2005.12.02 14:47:00 -
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Yes, Caldari are so nerfed, shieldtanking becoming OMFWTFBBQUBER must really suck for them.
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theRaptor
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Posted - 2005.12.02 14:50:00 -
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Originally by: Testy Mctest
Yes, Caldari are so nerfed, shieldtanking becoming OMFWTFBBQUBER must really suck for them.
How doew shield help they miners? This is no shelp at all!!
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Professor McFly
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Posted - 2005.12.02 14:51:00 -
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Originally by: Grimpak
Originally by: keepiru
Because youre ugly
yes!
intaki girls > caldari girls (althou deteis ones look cool)
Ni-Kunni > *
Gallente are clearly the high maintenance type 
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Anjerrai Meloanis
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Posted - 2005.12.02 15:07:00 -
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Edited by: Anjerrai Meloanis on 02/12/2005 15:07:58
Originally by: theRaptor
But drone ships have turrets to!! Caldari dont have many turrets and dont have drones. Why aren;t Caldari allowed to be good miners??
Because Caldari mission *****..
Thankfully not all ships in Eve are the same, thats why there are 4 races
uh.
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theRaptor
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Posted - 2005.12.02 15:15:00 -
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Originally by: Anjerrai Meloanis
Edited by: Anjerrai Meloanis on 02/12/2005 15:07:58
Originally by: theRaptor
But drone ships have turrets to!! Caldari dont have many turrets and dont have drones. Why aren;t Caldari allowed to be good miners??
Because Caldari mission *****..
Thankfully not all ships in Eve are the same, thats why there are 4 races
Why is there this discrimination? I am a humble Caldari who like to mine!
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Alazais
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Posted - 2005.12.02 15:24:00 -
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If you're a dedicated miner, then spend a month to learn to fly a covetor.... that ship is lots better then any Battleship at mining. If you just want to mine on the side, do it in an Osprey and at least appreciate the cheapness of a it, it is a good mining ship with cruiser 5 and mining drones. so shh.
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theRaptor
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Posted - 2005.12.02 15:29:00 -
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Originally by: Alazais
If you're a dedicated miner, then spend a month to learn to fly a covetor.... that ship is lots better then any Battleship at mining. If you just want to mine on the side, do it in an Osprey and at least appreciate the cheapness of a it, it is a good mining ship with cruiser 5 and mining drones. so shh.
Why spend a month learning to fly barges when other races dotn need to>? Where is the fairness int hat?
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Cadadon
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Posted - 2005.12.02 15:34:00 -
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Fly other race ships then, there's nothing stopping you, stop whinging and get on with the game.
Want to mine, fly a barge. Any serious miner will do that, whatever race they are. If you don't want to fly a barge, train up Gallente BS or Amarr BS.
Whatever you do, you don't need to come here and whinge.
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Ashraaf
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Posted - 2005.12.02 15:36:00 -
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Same as me, make a corp, get some gallantean, put them on the belt and stay at the bar with other CEO drinking fine champagne ;)
It's possible to mine in low/nul sec with an apoc or 'nix, and tank rat. It's be far more difficult with an osprey
Raven and Scorp are bad mining ship.
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Jaketh Ivanes
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Posted - 2005.12.02 15:38:00 -
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Originally by: theRaptor
Originally by: Alazais
If you're a dedicated miner, then spend a month to learn to fly a covetor.... that ship is lots better then any Battleship at mining. If you just want to mine on the side, do it in an Osprey and at least appreciate the cheapness of a it, it is a good mining ship with cruiser 5 and mining drones. so shh.
Why spend a month learning to fly barges when other races dotn need to>? Where is the fairness int hat?
Didn't know I had to spend less time to train for a Barge than Caldari 
So, mining is a weakness of the caldari.. so what. Should I claim that Amarr are discriminated because we got **** for shields and absolutely no ECM ability? Ups.. think i just did 
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Alazais
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Posted - 2005.12.02 15:42:00 -
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Fairness.... thats the whole point though, if every race had the same turret/missile/bonus's/weapons and shield/armour then sure it'd be balanced and fair... just incredibly stupid. An Osprey can pull in the same amount of ore as a Megathron or a Armageddon as long as it is using drones... The difference is small, hardly worth complaining about. The way i see it... if caldari aren't changed... you'll keep on whining, if they were given more turret hardpoints, many more would whine about them being too uber... so its easier to let the few whine about caldari being crap miners.
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Hampstah
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Posted - 2005.12.02 16:02:00 -
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We also need sniping miners so my tempest can mine at 150KM.
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Greyshadow
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Posted - 2005.12.02 16:12:00 -
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I'll just fly other races ships but hang on I have mining barge already so no need
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Sirilonwe
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Posted - 2005.12.02 16:16:00 -
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Originally by: Grimpak
intaki girls > caldari girls (althou deteis ones look cool)
Thanks 
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Masta Killa
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Posted - 2005.12.02 16:34:00 -
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Talk to FC Raptor, he perfected the technique of mining with torps some time ago.
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