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Ranger 1
Ranger Corp
1225
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Posted - 2011.12.30 02:41:00 -
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Professor Alphane wrote:Ranger 1 wrote:
In fact, you don't actually need to see a ship or a station do to any of the things you currently do in game. Your point is lacking.
Not at all, my point still stands why waste thousands of man hours when you don't need to
There are many things that make sense to want to do more efficiently, more secretly, person to person. I could call, text, or email people directly to arrange all sorts of illegal activities... but that doesn't really make much sense now does it.
I would be a pretty poor drug dealer if I used my home phone to call all of my customers on their home phone to arrange a sale, and then sent their goods to them via mail directly. There are reasons why people do that type of business face to face.
Again you fail to understand that ingame we DO talk face to face with our agents and not on comms as your scenario describes
As far as the Command Center is concerned, the volume of information and tools available would be quite impractical for a pilot at the scene of the combat to actually try to keep track of in addition to keeping himself from getting roasted in the process. If you refuse to see the value of your entire screen being taken up with a 3D display of the entire battle, with more extensive coms and tools at your disposal than you could jam in with your normal necessary UI, that is a limitation on your part... not mine. More importantly, it makes SENSE in game... just as it does for our armed forces out of game.
Who said it couldn't be 3D? Who said you couldn't expand it to full screen? have you never heard of a mobile command centre IRL? I'm not saying a TAC display is a bad idea my point is it doesn't NEED Wis and would be 100* harder to implement if you tried to use it
People can identify with this, and more importantly have fun with this. If you aren't comfortable with that I don't know what to tell you.
I have no problem with people having fun ingame, they do already WITHOUT Wis, kinda proving my point I feel
Again, none of what we have now is necessary for game play. Not ship graphics, not station or space environments, not even an overview. There are reasons why we DO have them anyway, it allows you to identify and make sense of what is going on around you in a fun and identifiable way. This is no different.
Actually, no. Before CQ you never left your ship, to converse with an agent or otherwise. You sat there, in your ship to talking via the same chat interface with little still pictures of your agents having a text conversation with you. Now if you IMAGINED something more, perhaps you are instead proving the appeal of having a the game visually reflect that.
A Command Center view point of a battle makes a great deal more sense to be done from a station, and also opens up many possibilities as well if this "battle overview" has a range limit. People within range of a Command Center would have a noticeable advantage over those out of range of their own. It would provide a reason for taking a systematic approach to securing enemy Outposts in range of the front lines for your own use first, so that you would not be disadvantaged by the defenders. Frankly, I certainly wouldn't want to be vulnerable in a ship in space with all of my screen being devoted to an overview of a battle and oblivious to my personal situation.
I'm glad you still remember that fun is the main objective. Try to keep in mind that this is just another layer of fun that would be available to be experienced. When I check troll in the dictionary, it has a photo shopped picture of you standing somewhere in the vicinity of a point.
Also, I can kill you with my brain. |

Ranger 1
Ranger Corp
1225
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Posted - 2011.12.30 02:50:00 -
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Ladie Harlot wrote:Ranger 1 wrote:You need to be aware of the fact that a lot of the people in this thread are of the same opinion in that regard, and are not proponents of sacrificing needed development time from FIS game play. If that is true and CCP has already told them that further Incarna development hasn't been canceled but is on the back burner what more are they asking for in this thread? The fact that they keep bleating about their space pants tells me that they *are* wanting CCP to sacrifice actual Eve content for more WiS nonsense.
I think they are just wanting some indication of a rough time frame when development might be looked at again. CCP does have a bad habit of taking an "all or nothing" approach at times that has not served them well in the past.
Honestly, a lot of the bleating about space pants has come from people attempting to shut down any further conversation in favor of WIS. Most (but not all) of the people speaking in favor of Incarna haven't really made that a main point.
I personally like the option to customize my character. I have in every game I've played (and most allowed it to varying degree's). It helps build an identity in game, and EVE especially is all about your rep and how you present yourself (granted, how you look visually takes a back seat to what you accomplish).
I would have no objections to having some 3rd party develop new "stuff" for the characters to customize with, but that's a pretty trivial point in this discussion. When I check troll in the dictionary, it has a photo shopped picture of you standing somewhere in the vicinity of a point.
Also, I can kill you with my brain. |

Disdaine
253
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Posted - 2011.12.30 03:01:00 -
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Ladie Harlot wrote: The fact that they keep bleating about their space pants tells me that they *are* wanting CCP to sacrifice actual Eve content for more WiS nonsense.
Only one bleating about space pants and space barbie fetishists is yourself and your cohort.
What did you say in another thread where someone suggested that CCP implement clothing that has already been developed and in-game?
Quote:Yes, CCP, please stop working on actual Eve content so the space barbies can play dressup.
Quote: No, I'm one of the people smart enough to realize we're playing a game
Smarter than the average goonbear. |

Professor Alphane
Alphane Research Co-operative
299
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Posted - 2011.12.30 03:07:00 -
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Whatever way you try and sell the idea unless CCP where commited to designing a whole new game based around 'avatar' activity , it's just hype.
Perhaps that was the original intention but frankly I have very little respect left for the modern CCP. Originally EVE was a work of genius IMO, it's been badly mismanaged ever since. They fail to keep there eye on the ball and seem to walk round with there head in the clouds, thinking this would be great or that is the dogs knackers. What the deliver is mostly half cocked ideas poorly implemented.
As a company they already seem to be floundering (other developments shelved and staff laid off) and making high stakes gambles (Dust).
Why should I be so bothered? well at the end of the day I enjoy EVE and should CCP go belly up the very excistance of new eden would be in doubt (unless someone else bought it out ).
WiS is in no way neccasery to EVE as the past 10 years have proven, and while it would be nice to please all the people all the time, it just isn't practical.
YOU MUST THINK FIRST.... |

Taiwanistan
Wildly Inappropriate Goonswarm Federation
192
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Posted - 2011.12.30 03:14:00 -
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hey you know in 1 year swtor will be shitcanned, f2p, dying on life support and ccp would look at it and "phew glad we didn't faggle up our game with that bullshit" One thing is for sure, you and I are not friends, buddies or pals so don't /emote me with DMC. That's DeMichael Crimson to you.            |

Jaroslav Unwanted
Brutor Tribe Minmatar Republic
1372
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Posted - 2011.12.30 03:17:00 -
[2046] - Quote
Taiwanistan wrote:hey you know in 1 year swtor will be shitcanned, f2p, dying on life support and ccp would look at it and "phew glad we didn't faggle up our game with that bullshit"
maybe, yet totally unrelated.. different ball-park.  |

Taiwanistan
Wildly Inappropriate Goonswarm Federation
192
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Posted - 2011.12.30 03:30:00 -
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ranger1 your ideas are so shitstupid you must be trollin 1. info- like what? where's that ibis with 50 plexes, where's that titan 20km off a pos, where's SC stuck with no fuel? 2. boosters- so you are giong to grief the whole server by forcing them into wis for boosters? screw you 3. command center- jesus christ, have you ever been in a fleet? yeah let's have docked backseat fc-ing don't make points, just don't One thing is for sure, you and I are not friends, buddies or pals so don't /emote me with DMC. That's DeMichael Crimson to you.            |

Ranger 1
Ranger Corp
1225
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Posted - 2011.12.30 03:49:00 -
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Taiwanistan wrote:ranger1 your ideas are so shitstupid you must be trollin 1. info- like what? where's that ibis with 50 plexes, where's that titan 20km off a pos, where's SC stuck with no fuel? 2. boosters- so you are giong to grief the whole server by forcing them into wis for boosters? screw you 3. command center- jesus christ, have you ever been in a fleet? yeah let's have docked backseat fc-ing don't make points, just don't

Okay, I'll humor you.
1: Info like:
I'm interested in collecting the bounty on this person, do they ever undock? If they do, when and where have they undocked the last few times? I'm suspicious of one of my directors, who has he traded/contracted/sold items to lately? I know who does logistics for my enemy. What systems has he been to in the last 48 hours?
Obviously, this sort of information at your finger tips would not come cheap. This could become part of making bounty hunting a viable profession for the first time. I won't even venture onto the slippery slope of the possibility of this type of agent operating a wire tap on a persons private convo's.
2: Not necessarily just boosters, but smuggling of any item deemed contraband in the various EVE empires would fall under this category... as well as the illicit sale of items specifically designed to make smuggling more viable than it is today. You may not have a problem with smuggling not being a viable or skillable profession currently, you may not have a problem with illegal items being traded on publicly viewable contracts, but I think many do.
3: Heh, yes I've been in fleet "a time or two", and taken part in the planning of major campaigns. Tools to get a better picture of what is going on, as well as reducing the amount of necessary coms traffic, would be tremendously helpful. Can you really call it "back seat FCing" when he has a far clearer picture of the overall battle than you do...
I won't discourage YOU from making points, instead I encourage you to do so next time. When I check troll in the dictionary, it has a photo shopped picture of you standing somewhere in the vicinity of a point.
Also, I can kill you with my brain. |

DeMichael Crimson
Republic University Minmatar Republic
1257
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Posted - 2011.12.30 04:32:00 -
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Ladie Harlot wrote:Zevina wrote:For a person that considers himself smart you are pretty offensive and rude against players that dont share your personal opinion. But maybe acting in such a way is how you want this game to be.
However after 92 pages its apperently clear a vast majority still wants WiS the way it was planned and advertised.
Now its up to CCP to fulfill their promises. First of all I'm sorry that you find logic and common sense "pretty offenive and rude". Not sure what I can do about it.
Easy answer, stop posting. If not, try a little common courtesy.
Seriously, if it wasn't for you and a couple of other 'Cons', this thread probably wouldn't be top page active.
Thanks.
Ladie Harlot wrote:Second, if you had actually read all 92 pages of the thread like I have you'd see that there are very, very few pro-WiS people (or space barbie fetishists as they prefer to be called) but those few people (and their alts) are very vocal.
Not sure about there only being a very, very few pro-WiS people. Most everyone would have welcomed WiS if it had been properly programed, beta tested and implemented like it had been originally presented in Ambulation.
Unfortunately, the WiS we got (CQ) was completely different. Everyone agrees there are many Technical issues with it. Baring that, there's still lot's of potential new content that could have been implemented for both FiS and WiS with Incarna..
Plenty of great ideas for that have already been posted in this thread.
Instead of fixing stuff or even creating new content for FiS and WiS, CCP decided to cash in with Nex and Micro-transactions and link that to a poorly programed badly rushed CQ (WiS) and present it as Incarna.
That was the problem. Along with all the other political events that happened during the summer.
The Nex and Micro-transactions should not be confused with WiS.
By the way, wanting a viable working WiS doesn't make a player "space barbie fetishists".
Ladie Harlot wrote:Without a doubt the majority of posts in this thread are from me and others like me who don't want to see Eve ruined again.
Adding new content is never a bad thing as long as existing content is maintained and or improved.
Yes, you're one of the few very vocal protesters in this thread, again I thank you for doing your part to keep this issue alive.

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Taiwanistan
Wildly Inappropriate Goonswarm Federation
192
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Posted - 2011.12.30 04:34:00 -
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1. no way they would allow that, that is straight up full-api-key info, imagine the ganking potential
2. you can already do smuggling as a career, get in an orca, get ppl to escort you from low/null to hisec also you know the market button on the neocom? ccp can just make a second "black market button" available in low/null stations only, no need for wis
3.. "FCing equals extending your ****, biggest **** wins." - Mister Vee, war ingame and irl is determined by the ability to see through the chaos and act accordingly. fleets now require actual dudes in scout ships, coherent communication, and nothing is spoon-fed, if you want intel, you have to be out in space, not lollygagging in a station. i do agree with the other dude who said that additional improvements can be made in this regard but to ships only, eg. covertops frigates should have additional "intel stuff" UI, able to see more stuff than the pilot flying a BS also command ships should have special FC-ing abilities to compell FCs to actually conduct their FC-ing from a command ship, such as the ability to call up a second overview, which is fed directly from a covertops scout in the same fleet. instead of being merely a buffing ship.
i can rebuke your ideas all day long, in the end wis is just useless frivolous fluff, adding nothing to game mechanics One thing is for sure, you and I are not friends, buddies or pals so don't /emote me with DMC. That's DeMichael Crimson to you.            |

Ladie Harlot
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
1793
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Posted - 2011.12.30 04:59:00 -
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Disdaine wrote:What did you say in another thread where someone suggested that CCP implement clothing that has already been developed and in-game? Quote:Yes, CCP, please stop working on actual Eve content so the space barbies can play dressup. For your homework project this week I'd like you to find a dictionary and look up the word IRONY. Report back when you can answer your own question from above. The artist formerly known as Ladie Scarlet. |

Ladie Harlot
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
1793
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Posted - 2011.12.30 05:02:00 -
[2052] - Quote
DeMichael Crimson wrote:again I thank you for doing your part to keep this issue alive I'm always happy to help remind CCP of the promises they made to the community. The artist formerly known as Ladie Scarlet. |

Ranger 1
Ranger Corp
1225
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Posted - 2011.12.30 06:24:00 -
[2053] - Quote
Taiwanistan wrote:1. no way they would allow that, that is straight up full-api-key info, imagine the ganking potential
2. you can already do smuggling as a career, get in an orca, get ppl to escort you from low/null to hisec also you know the market button on the neocom? ccp can just make a second "black market button" available in low/null stations only, no need for wis
3.. "FCing equals extending your ****, biggest **** wins." - Mister Vee, war ingame and irl is determined by the ability to see through the chaos and act accordingly. fleets now require actual dudes in scout ships, coherent communication, and nothing is spoon-fed, if you want intel, you have to be out in space, not lollygagging in a station. i do agree with the other dude who said that additional improvements can be made in this regard but to ships only, eg. covertops frigates should have additional "intel stuff" UI, able to see more stuff than the pilot flying a BS also command ships should have special FC-ing abilities to compell FCs to actually conduct their FC-ing from a command ship, such as the ability to call up a second overview, which is fed directly from a covertops scout in the same fleet. instead of being merely a buffing ship.
i can rebuke your ideas all day long, in the end wis is just useless frivolous fluff, adding nothing to game mechanics
1: We have locator agents now, imagine the ganking potential. What information would be available would have to be carefully considered of course, but even now we can almost instantly determine the location of anyone we desire... any time we like. The possibilities for additional clever tid bits of information of a highly personal (and clandestine) nature are virtually limitless.
2: LOL. Smuggling has never been fleshed out as a career, much like bounty hunting. It is an oft asked for area of development. What you are describing is yet another marketing system that adds nothing to current game play. It's somewhat akin to you saying "Invention would be better if you could just buy a T2 BPO".
3: If you want information, you need to have your SCOUTS out in space and in the correct locations. None of that changes except you are actually able to do your job better... and so can the other guy IF he has planned ahead. What possible sense does it make for a ship in the field to have better Command and Control capabilities than the tremendous resources that would be available in a Null Sec Outpost?
Do we currently coordinate large military actions from the cockpit of a fighter? No. Do we currently ask one man, who is personally piloting his vessel in the middle of combat, to oversee the disposition of an entire fleet? No. Do we establish Command and Control Centers, that gather intel and recon reports, to coordinate efforts when a large battle is occurring? Yes.
We do those things for a number of very sensible reasons. Try not thinking like a fighter jock and instead think like a fleet commander.
In fact, it is this very ability which is one of the most anticipated aspects of DUST. The ability of at least one player on each side to oversee the battle in exactly this manner and coordinate the forces at his command. They already have an idea as to how this can best be accomplished and have written code for it. It's not a big leap to apply this to EVE.
More importantly every one of these suggestions makes much more sense to be handled in person than to be handled from the helm of your ship. Not to mention more fun.
Someone asked for at least one example. I took 15 minutes and came up with 3 off the top of my head. Obviously better idea's can be visualized with a bit of thought, but this shows a small glimpse of the possibilities. Sure, it would be quicker to give you a text box that tells you that you are getting a lap dance from a Gallante pole dancer, but would that really be more amusing than actually having it happen to your character? (If you answer yes, I'm prepared to pronounce you legally dead). When I check troll in the dictionary, it has a photo shopped picture of you standing somewhere in the vicinity of a point.
Also, I can kill you with my brain. |

Taiwanistan
Wildly Inappropriate Goonswarm Federation
192
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Posted - 2011.12.30 07:19:00 -
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1. locator agents currently give out way less information that what you are proposing, checks and balances, you seem to want highly detailed full api key stuff 2. i proposed the black market button because you cannot process the fact that yes pirate ships and illegal drugs are sold openly on the market/contract. no it is not fun to WASD for 5 minutes because i want to buy a few boosters 3. you wanted "One that eliminates the necessity for large volumes of voice communications to relay basic enemy movements, and utilizes the scanners of your scouts and FC's to give a much clearer picture of the battle (in perhaps multiple systems simultaneously) than you could possibly get with the current overview." that looks pretty spoon-fed to me, if your alliance cannot do this over voice comms, too bad your comparison of eve warring to irl warring is just plain silly, like how a fleet is suppose to literally rely on/call home to "HQ HIGH COMMAND" for maneuvers, a very poor argument to legitimize wis avatar-usage i know i made the same comparison as well, but only in the most general sense, your desire for eve to have a literal representation of NORAD or CENTCOM is just misguided, yes we are all just space pilots in the game of eve online, and again i don't think you understand how FCing and fleets work and the battle overseer for DUST thing, would be much more useful to have a Battlefield 2 Commander style thing, looking at your avatar looking at a screen just don't sound very effective, again no wis needed.
and when i was playing GTA IV, i was amused by the pg-13 stripper at the strip club for about 1 minute,
One thing is for sure, you and I are not friends, buddies or pals so don't /emote me with DMC. That's DeMichael Crimson to you.            |

oldbutfeelingyoung
418
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Posted - 2011.12.30 10:12:00 -
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Jhagiti Tyran wrote:The "6 people want WIS" thread lol.
against the 3 people hate WIS
I emote the ones who don,t like Emoting :) |

Kuronaga
Ausbruch
144
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Posted - 2011.12.30 11:37:00 -
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Ladie Harlot wrote:Disdaine wrote:Ladie Harlot wrote:lol roleplayers Cuz u're a reel spacepilot amirite? No, I'm one of the people smart enough to realize we're playing a game. I don't need CCP to waste years of developer time to help me feel like a "freelance space police".
It's a shame you aren't one of the smart people who realizes you're playing a roleplaying game. |

Jita Akachi
State War Academy Caldari State
3
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Posted - 2011.12.30 12:37:00 -
[2057] - Quote
>40.000 view With this thread CCP now just know WIS is really wanting :) And can read why "WIS hater" are just funny troll.. (sry for my poor english) |

Alpheias
Euphoria Released 0ccupational Hazzard
496
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Posted - 2011.12.30 12:44:00 -
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Kuronaga wrote:
It's a shame you aren't one of the smart people who realizes you're playing a roleplaying game.
You must be one of the players that picked the role to play mentally challenged then. I'd kill kittens and puppies and bunnies I'd maim toddlers and teens and then more |

Kuronaga
Ausbruch
144
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Posted - 2011.12.30 12:51:00 -
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Alpheias wrote:Kuronaga wrote:
It's a shame you aren't one of the smart people who realizes you're playing a roleplaying game.
You must be one of the players that picked the role to play mentally challenged then.
You're just mad cause goth music sucks. |

Alpheias
Euphoria Released 0ccupational Hazzard
496
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Posted - 2011.12.30 12:55:00 -
[2060] - Quote
Kuronaga wrote:Alpheias wrote:Kuronaga wrote:
It's a shame you aren't one of the smart people who realizes you're playing a roleplaying game.
You must be one of the players that picked the role to play mentally challenged then. You're just mad cause goth music sucks.
You don't have to tell me goth music sucks - I know it does. On the same level as your dating history, I'd imagine. I'd kill kittens and puppies and bunnies I'd maim toddlers and teens and then more |

Kuronaga
Ausbruch
144
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Posted - 2011.12.30 12:59:00 -
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My goodness, I'm being trash talked by an angry space nymph.
Whatever will I do? |

Alpheias
Euphoria Released 0ccupational Hazzard
496
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Posted - 2011.12.30 13:09:00 -
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Kuronaga wrote:
Whatever will I do?
Suicide come to mind. I'd kill kittens and puppies and bunnies I'd maim toddlers and teens and then more |

Ladie Harlot
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
1793
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Posted - 2011.12.30 13:56:00 -
[2063] - Quote
Kuronaga wrote:Ladie Harlot wrote:Disdaine wrote:Ladie Harlot wrote:lol roleplayers Cuz u're a reel spacepilot amirite? No, I'm one of the people smart enough to realize we're playing a game. I don't need CCP to waste years of developer time to help me feel like a "freelance space police". It's a shame you aren't one of the smart people who realizes you're playing a roleplaying game. MMORPG describes a genre or a 'type' of game. That doesn't mean I have to demean myself by actually acting like a roleplayer and crying about not enough space pants.
Maybe if the tiny handful of pro-WiS players who can't be happy until CCP ruins their game again got together and pooled their money they could hire somebody to write some NeX store slashfic or something. I don't know...would that make you guys feel better?
The artist formerly known as Ladie Scarlet. |

Kuronaga
Ausbruch
144
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Posted - 2011.12.30 14:24:00 -
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Alpheias wrote:
Suicide come to mind.
Your character looks like some moody teenager going through her emo phase while struggling to deal with her monthly period.
And here you are on the forums acting like it.
See? Roleplaying isn't that hard.
Ladie Harlot wrote:MMORPG describes a genre or a 'type' of game. That doesn't mean I have to demean myself by actually acting like a roleplayer and crying about not enough space pants.
Yes, kind of like boardgame describes candyland. But last I checked, you were supposed to play candyland on the board, hence the name.
That are you unable to follow a simple concept that is actually described in the name itself due to your horrifically mismanaged intelligence is another issue. Luckily for you most people are also idiots, so you are allowed a comfortable domain in the world. Just not a domain that matters. |

Cailais
Rekall Incorporated Sinewave Alliance
227
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Posted - 2011.12.30 14:39:00 -
[2065] - Quote
Taiwanistan wrote: i know i made the same comparison as well, but only in the most general sense, your desire for eve to have a literal representation of NORAD or CENTCOM is just misguided.
Id disagree with this view. There's an argument that fleet 'blobs' may occur as having an FC 'ead other players by the nose' is the only viable method of manoeuvring large fleets at the moment.
If a higher 'strategic' perspective was available for commanders (i.e they could view the rough dispositions and status of multiple fleets over a broad area) then that approach would be used more. I certainly know players who have resorted to using print outs of DOTLAN maps and pins to try and achieve this (with moderate success).
If you tie in the value of having a higher strategic perspective with the roll out of DUST514 additional tools for 'war planning and execution' would be a good thing - and WiS strikes me as a perfectly valid means of displaying and accessing that information.
Why use WiS? It would at least provide a geography for players to navigate by - a virtual 3D UI if you like. It could be done with additional pop up windows but that's likely to become pretty chaotic and not all that immersive.
C.
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Alpheias
Euphoria Released 0ccupational Hazzard
496
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Posted - 2011.12.30 14:40:00 -
[2066] - Quote
Kuronaga wrote:Alpheias wrote:
Suicide come to mind.
Your character looks like some moody teenager going through her emo phase while struggling to deal with her monthly period. And here you are on the forums acting like it. See? Roleplaying isn't that hard. Ladie Harlot wrote:MMORPG describes a genre or a 'type' of game. That doesn't mean I have to demean myself by actually acting like a roleplayer and crying about not enough space pants. Yes, kind of like boardgame describes candyland. But last I checked, you were supposed to play candyland on the board, hence the name. That are you unable to follow a simple concept that is actually described in the name itself due to your horrifically mismanaged intelligence is another issue. Luckily for you most people are also idiots, so you are allowed a comfortable domain in the world. Just not a domain that matters.
Yours look like a lonely weebo so what is your point? I'd kill kittens and puppies and bunnies I'd maim toddlers and teens and then more |

Vertisce Soritenshi
Varion Galactic Tragedy.
1218
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Posted - 2011.12.30 14:42:00 -
[2067] - Quote
Taiwanistan wrote:ranger1 your ideas are so shitstupid you must be trollin 1. info- like what? where's that ibis with 50 plexes, where's that titan 20km off a pos, where's SC stuck with no fuel? 2. boosters- so you are giong to grief the whole server by forcing them into wis for boosters? screw you 3. command center- jesus christ, have you ever been in a fleet? yeah let's have docked backseat fc-ing don't make points, just don't
Fortunately your post is null since every one of your posts is "shitstupid".
Quit being an ass and accept the fact that other people do have other views and opinions...and you are not always right despite what you may think. EvE is not about PvP.-á EvE is about the SANDBOX! - CCP!-á Open the door!!! |

Kuronaga
Ausbruch
144
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Posted - 2011.12.30 14:46:00 -
[2068] - Quote
My point, dear lady, is that I am clearly a happy person with a valid point of view while you are clearly a super sensitive brat who's only recourse is to throw about baseless personal insults like a child who didn't get their sweet roll. |

Deviana Sevidon
Jades Falcon Guards
291
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Posted - 2011.12.30 14:53:00 -
[2069] - Quote
Kuronaga wrote:My point, dear lady, is that I am clearly a happy person with a valid point of view while you are clearly a super sensitive brat who's only recourse is to throw about baseless personal insults like a child who didn't get their sweet roll.
Maybe she took an arrow in her knee? |

Indahmawar Fazmarai
The I and F Taxation Trust
317
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Posted - 2011.12.30 14:59:00 -
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Just a little off-topic... compare how we and these thread are being ignored, with how all the whiners who coouldn't get their timing straight to get the holiday gifts are devoted a devblog and the chance to overload the already overloaded petition system with a specific cathegory to petition their gifts.
Coz', you know, would be so bad that some people were upset to don't get their holiday gifts for their own failing, wereas ignoring people concerned about WiS is par for the course.  EVE residents: 5% Wormholes; 8% Lowsec; 20% Nullsec; 67% Highsec. CSM 6: 100% non-Highsec residents.
EVE demographics vs CSM demographics, nothing to worry about...-á |
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