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Jaroslav Unwanted
Brutor Tribe Minmatar Republic
1372
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Posted - 2011.12.31 05:08:00 -
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Taiwanistan wrote:3 new cqs, the bone ccp threw at you beggers, and the last of it oh and maybe some new clothes that you can buy if you're dumb
We all are, otherwise we would be dead. Go figure.. There is some wisdom in that sentence. |

Disdaine
253
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Posted - 2011.12.31 05:17:00 -
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Taiwanistan wrote:3 new cqs, the bone ccp threw at you beggers, and the last of it oh and maybe some new clothes that you can buy if you're dumb
If we were dumb we wouldn't know how to spell beggar.
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Taiwanistan
Wildly Inappropriate Goonswarm Federation
192
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Posted - 2011.12.31 05:23:00 -
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oh is that a monocle, what was i talking about again? One thing is for sure, you and I are not friends, buddies or pals so don't /emote me with DMC. That's DeMichael Crimson to you.            |

Bail Boo
4
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Posted - 2011.12.31 05:27:00 -
[2104] - Quote
Just let us see each others clothes, at least! it's a multiplayer game  Party, Marty. Party. |

Jaroslav Unwanted
Brutor Tribe Minmatar Republic
1372
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Posted - 2011.12.31 05:28:00 -
[2105] - Quote
Bail Boo wrote:Just let us see each others clothes, at least! it's a multiplayer game 
you can do that now.. .whole avatar view is available..  |

Jhagiti Tyran
Muppet Ninja's Ninja Unicorns with Huge Horns
237
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Posted - 2011.12.31 06:48:00 -
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Kuronaga wrote:Jhagiti Tyran wrote:No matter what infeasible things you all keep dreaming up that CCP will never, ever be willing or able to introduce you all need to remember.
WIS is shitcanned.
Deal with it.
P.S. lol space barbie
P.P.S. lol roleplayers No matter what infeasible things you keep dreaming up that CCP will never, ever be willing or able to introduce you all need to remember. FiS is stagnating. Deal with it. P.S. lol spaceships P.P.S. lol e-thugs
WIS went down the shitter, CCP announced they will refocus on the real game. FIS was only stagnating because CCP neglected it during the space barbie brain fart, if they keep their promises FIS should get a lot of improvements over the next few expansions.
P.S lol spaceships you say? you started playing a spaceship game, because you are not satisfied you want CCP to ruin the core game because you chose the wrong game in the first place? Thats as pants on head ******** as going to play WoW and then demanding spaceships.
P.P.S I Know the mayor of Boston. |

Ranger 1
Ranger Corp
1225
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Posted - 2011.12.31 08:19:00 -
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Quote:because you are not satisfied you want CCP to ruin the core game
Quoting the part where you lost all credibility. When I check troll in the dictionary, it has a photo shopped picture of you standing somewhere in the vicinity of a point.
Also, I can kill you with my brain. |

oldbutfeelingyoung
418
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Posted - 2011.12.31 09:16:00 -
[2108] - Quote
Jhagiti Tyran wrote:Kuronaga wrote:Jhagiti Tyran wrote:No matter what infeasible things you all keep dreaming up that CCP will never, ever be willing or able to introduce you all need to remember.
WIS is shitcanned.
Deal with it.
P.S. lol space barbie
P.P.S. lol roleplayers No matter what infeasible things you keep dreaming up that CCP will never, ever be willing or able to introduce you all need to remember. FiS is stagnating. Deal with it. P.S. lol spaceships P.P.S. lol e-thugs WIS went down the shitter, CCP announced they will refocus on the real game. FIS was only stagnating because CCP neglected it during the space barbie brain fart, if they keep their promises FIS should get a lot of improvements over the next few expansions. P.S lol spaceships you say? you started playing a spaceship game, because you are not satisfied you want CCP to ruin the core game because you chose the wrong game in the first place? Thats as pants on head ******** as going to play WoW and then demanding spaceships. P.P.S I Know the mayor of Boston.
and what's the core game according to you in EVE ? I emote the ones who don,t like Emoting :) |

Boffles
Aliastra Gallente Federation
13
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Posted - 2011.12.31 12:15:00 -
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I support the call for WiS to be completed. I understand CCP need to concentrate on FiS, but donGÇÖt forget this. There is so much potential, especially when we will be finally able to walk through the door. I really want to own a bar or shop and maybe give out undercover missions of my own.
Now for the part I hope I will be forgiven for. Think of it as a reward to all you loyal wishers for Wis. Check out my post in myEvE for a WiS video
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nkl3IAivUUE
MyEve Post |

Deviana Sevidon
Jades Falcon Guards
291
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Posted - 2011.12.31 16:53:00 -
[2110] - Quote
Jhagiti Tyran wrote:Kuronaga wrote:Jhagiti Tyran wrote:No matter what infeasible things you all keep dreaming up that CCP will never, ever be willing or able to introduce you all need to remember.
WIS is shitcanned.
Deal with it.
P.S. lol space barbie
P.P.S. lol roleplayers No matter what infeasible things you keep dreaming up that CCP will never, ever be willing or able to introduce you all need to remember. FiS is stagnating. Deal with it. P.S. lol spaceships P.P.S. lol e-thugs WIS went down the shitter, CCP announced they will refocus on the real game. FIS was only stagnating because CCP neglected it during the space barbie brain fart, if they keep their promises FIS should get a lot of improvements over the next few expansions. P.S lol spaceships you say? you started playing a spaceship game, because you are not satisfied you want CCP to ruin the core game because you chose the wrong game in the first place? Thats as pants on head ******** as going to play WoW and then demanding spaceships. P.P.S I Know the mayor of Boston.
The old and stupid space-barbie argument *yawn*.
Try to grow up a bit and in a few years you might be mature enough to return to EVE, in the meantime I recommend cancelling your subscription.
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Jhagiti Tyran
Muppet Ninja's Ninja Unicorns with Huge Horns
237
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Posted - 2011.12.31 17:12:00 -
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Deviana Sevidon wrote:Try to grow up a bit and in a few years you might be mature enough to return to EVE, in the meantime I recommend cancelling your subscription.
Why would I quit? The sub is peanuts for two accounts and WIS has been shitcanned and CCP are focusing on the real game, life is good. Regarding maturity, I am not the one crying my eyes out because dress up the dolly has been cancelled. |

Taiwanistan
Wildly Inappropriate Goonswarm Federation
192
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Posted - 2011.12.31 19:02:00 -
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oh god i am so drunk now but cheers happy new year see you around same time next year, wis still shitcanned, fis supremacy suck it o7m8ers One thing is for sure, you and I are not friends, buddies or pals so don't /emote me with DMC. That's DeMichael Crimson to you.            |

Vallek Arkonnis
Viziam Amarr Empire
102
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Posted - 2011.12.31 19:21:00 -
[2113] - Quote
Jhagiti Tyran wrote:Deviana Sevidon wrote:Try to grow up a bit and in a few years you might be mature enough to return to EVE, in the meantime I recommend cancelling your subscription. Why would I quit? The sub is peanuts for two accounts and WIS has been shitcanned and CCP are focusing on the real game, life is good. Regarding maturity, I am not the one crying my eyes out because dress up the dolly has been cancelled.
So I guess corporate emblems and custom paint jobs are also immature seeing as they're just playing dress-up as well. I can't wait for the tears when that stuff hits the NeX store. |

Camios
Minmatar Bread Corporation
75
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Posted - 2011.12.31 19:28:00 -
[2114] - Quote
Suggestion: make incarna a free to play addon for EVE. If you want to fly spaceships, trade with buy and sell orders, produce things (all those things that casuleers do) you need a subscription or a plex, but if you content of walking in the sation corridors, you can do it for free. For putting up establishments and incarna related stuff, pay with aurum.
Put a courier system in the game that allows you to clone in another station. |

Velicitia
Open Designs
764
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Posted - 2011.12.31 19:29:00 -
[2115] - Quote
Jhagiti Tyran wrote:
P.P.S I Know the mayor of Boston.
 
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Ranger 1
Ranger Corp
1225
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Posted - 2011.12.31 20:26:00 -
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Camios wrote:Suggestion: make incarna a free to play addon for EVE. If you want to fly spaceships, trade with buy and sell orders, produce things (all those things that casuleers do) you need a subscription or a plex, but if you content of walking in the sation corridors, you can do it for free. For putting up establishments and incarna related stuff, pay with aurum.
Put a courier system in the game that allows you to clone in another station.
I won't comment directly on the merits or short comings of your idea, but +1 for putting out an open minded idea.
But for anything to happen on this front, no matter which way it would go, two things would have to happen.
1: A proper plan for game play development goals and reasonable allocation of developer resources that don't ignore the pre-existing area's of the game would have to be agreed upon.
2: Work on this would actually need to be resumed at some point.
That, ultimately, is the main point of this thread. To express the point of view that while pretty much everyone is not pleased with how things have been handled so far, the core concept and technology developed to support it has merit and should not be abandoned... instead (once damage repair is done) development should continue in a reasonable and responsible way. When I check troll in the dictionary, it has a photo shopped picture of you standing somewhere in the vicinity of a point.
Also, I can kill you with my brain. |

Jhagiti Tyran
Muppet Ninja's Ninja Unicorns with Huge Horns
237
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Posted - 2011.12.31 20:34:00 -
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Vallek Arkonnis wrote: I can't wait for the tears when that stuff hits the NeX store.
I highlighted the really relevant part, basic ship customisation should never be in the NeX store. Being able to customise a ships paint job and adding a corp or alliance logo should be part of the game without extra charges.
We already pay a premium for EVE game time compared to other popular MMORPGs. Every other MMO also comes with basic customisation, there is no reason EVE should be different other than greed. We pay more to play the game in the first place, being charged for something that should be integral to the game in the first place is going to far.
I am not against the NeX store for "additional" extras, maybe more character slots per account, name or bloodline changes and possibly other things like fancy space book titles or features, CCP could also make and sell smartphone and tablet apps for PLEX or other creative things. Neither would I object to being able to buy ships like the Ishukone watch Scorpion or a Roden Megathron as long as the stats are the same as the standard versions, or even special ships similar to the Opus yacht as long as it would basically be very underpowered and have no special role to make sure it would never be an advantage. Ships like the yacht could have the stats of a basic cruiser and just be eye candy.
But any item NeX objects should also only come either by BPC or by exchanging items for them, players should be involved in the manufacturing process. Paints and other things could come from PI processes and ships via the usual way. |

Indahmawar Fazmarai
The I and F Taxation Trust
317
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Posted - 2011.12.31 20:57:00 -
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The post-Crucible survey is on, everyone who wants more WiS go take it! Make our voice be heard!
Post-Crucible Survey EVE residents: 5% Wormholes; 8% Lowsec; 20% Nullsec; 67% Highsec. CSM 6: 100% non-Highsec residents.
EVE demographics vs CSM demographics, nothing to worry about...-á |

Kuronaga
Ausbruch
144
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Posted - 2012.01.01 00:20:00 -
[2119] - Quote
Jhagiti Tyran wrote:Kuronaga wrote:Jhagiti Tyran wrote:No matter what infeasible things you all keep dreaming up that CCP will never, ever be willing or able to introduce you all need to remember.
WIS is shitcanned.
Deal with it.
P.S. lol space barbie
P.P.S. lol roleplayers No matter what infeasible things you keep dreaming up that CCP will never, ever be willing or able to introduce you all need to remember. FiS is stagnating. Deal with it. P.S. lol spaceships P.P.S. lol e-thugs WIS went down the shitter, CCP announced they will refocus on the real game. FIS was only stagnating because CCP neglected it during the space barbie brain fart, if they keep their promises FIS should get a lot of improvements over the next few expansions. P.S lol spaceships you say? you started playing a spaceship game, because you are not satisfied you want CCP to ruin the core game because you chose the wrong game in the first place? Thats as pants on head ******** as going to play WoW and then demanding spaceships. P.P.S I Know the mayor of Boston.
FiS is stagnating because war is always a slow grind that serves very little real purpose to gigantic botting empires. If you remove the grind aspect of the war and change the timer mechanics, you end up making it impossible to consistently hold territory and therefore break the game further. As such, your game will always suck in some regards, and you will always be complaining that it isn't good enough.
They can tweak the mechanics left right and center, it will always be the same thing wearing a different mask, and you will always be dissatisfied.
P.S. I started playing a scifi sandbox game with the capacity for war. I never once limited the scope of that to spaceships, especially when the developers spoke early on that they didn't either. It was individuals such as yourself that have done so against all logic, because of some strange fetish you seem to have with spaceships. You ignored what was being said throughout the years, that was your error. Everything isn't about you, sorry.
P.P.S. Where's my controller? |

Bischopt
Ice Fire Warriors Late Night Alliance
83
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Posted - 2012.01.01 00:36:00 -
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Jhagiti Tyran wrote:Vallek Arkonnis wrote: I can't wait for the tears when that stuff hits the NeX store. I highlighted the really relevant part, basic ship customisation should never be in the NeX store. Being able to customise a ships paint job and adding a corp or alliance logo should be part of the game without extra charges. We already pay a premium for EVE game time compared to other popular MMORPGs. Every other MMO also comes with basic customisation, there is no reason EVE should be different other than greed. We pay more to play the game in the first place, being charged for something that should be integral to the game in the first place is going to far.
I agree with this part.
Eve subscription may not be a whole lot but it sure as hell should be enough to cover the entire game. Some wise man in another thread once said it best: any cash shop in a pay to play game is wrong.
Just burn NeX. |

Jhagiti Tyran
Muppet Ninja's Ninja Unicorns with Huge Horns
237
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Posted - 2012.01.01 02:08:00 -
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Kuronaga wrote:FiS is stagnating because war is always a slow grind that serves very little real purpose to gigantic botting empires. If you remove the grind aspect of the war and change the timer mechanics, you end up making it impossible to consistently hold territory and therefore break the game further. As such, your game will always suck in some regards, and you will always be complaining that it isn't good enough.
They can tweak the mechanics left right and center, it will always be the same thing wearing a different mask, and you will always be dissatisfied.
P.S. I started playing a scifi sandbox game with the capacity for war. I never once limited the scope of that to spaceships, especially when the developers spoke early on that they didn't either. It was individuals such as yourself that have done so against all logic, because of some strange fetish you seem to have with spaceships. You ignored what was being said throughout the years, that was your error. Everything isn't about you, sorry.
P.P.S. Where's my controller?
In truth I am not as against WIS as I sometimes make out, if CCP where capable of making meaningful station side game play that actually added something to the game and be able to do it with out neglecting the rest of EVE I would be really excited about it.
But they cannot, they neglected the game for years and all we got out of it was a single dingy room. Even if CCP managed to finish what they said would be in Incarna it would have meant longer than three years of unfinished features, minimal game balancing and broken gameplay (in certain specific areas) just so we could have a few minigames and a virtual bar for RPers whilst CCP tried to suck as much money out of our pockets as they could.
Do no try any bullshit about iteration or "that's only the beginning" because we all know how well CCP iterate on existing features, the evidence is everywhere. CCP have proven they are incapable of delivering any kind of worthwhile non spaceship gameplay. Dress up the dolly, lol RP and minigames is simply not enough. To begin with it needs to follow along the lines of the rest of EVEs gameplay and consist of industry and both PvE & PvP combat, then thats a good basis for the minigames and lol RP.
Secondly it would have to be player driven, no items simply spawned everything should be manufactured. Finally if there are any micro transactions they need to be sensibly priced and not a blatant attempt to rip the playerbase off.
Bischopt wrote:Jhagiti Tyran wrote:Vallek Arkonnis wrote: I can't wait for the tears when that stuff hits the NeX store. I highlighted the really relevant part, basic ship customisation should never be in the NeX store. Being able to customise a ships paint job and adding a corp or alliance logo should be part of the game without extra charges. We already pay a premium for EVE game time compared to other popular MMORPGs. Every other MMO also comes with basic customisation, there is no reason EVE should be different other than greed. We pay more to play the game in the first place, being charged for something that should be integral to the game in the first place is going to far. I agree with this part. Eve subscription may not be a whole lot but it sure as hell should be enough to cover the entire game. Some wise man in another thread once said it best: any cash shop in a pay to play game is wrong. Just burn NeX.
I cannot remember who first came up with this but it was basically that some games micro transactions are like walking down a road and seeing potholes all over, then you look in the cash shop and see they have buckets of tar for sale.
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Kuronaga
Ausbruch
144
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Posted - 2012.01.01 02:54:00 -
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Quote:In truth I am not as against WIS as I sometimes make out, if CCP where capable of making meaningful station side game play that actually added something to the game and be able to do it with out neglecting the rest of EVE I would be really excited about it.
That's all we're asking for. And yes, you are right to despair at the horrifying incompetence that was shown at the 1 room in 3 years.
Do note though, there was another build at one point with a lot more actual working content before they decided to build a new engine. People were actually able to play it at one of the fanfests. That alone did show that it can be done. So why wasn't it? Good ******* question.
Between building a new engine from scratch, the push for MT garbage, WoD taking such a huge chunk of the staff and the further mismanagement of available resources... the answer lies somewhere between all of these.
We know a lot more work has actually been done, and station environments have been constructed that we are not able to play yet. We know this because establishments have been internally playtested, and we were told they were not very fun with their current implementation so they decided not to run with it for crucible.
So two things are holding them back now.
The first is the lack of a good plan that will satisfy many of the players without pissing off the other half, and the second is people who are jumping on the "I hate WiS because someone told me to" bandwagon.
Both of these problems are fixed when people hop off the bandwagon of hatred and ignorance and start telling CCP what they actually want out of WiS. The sooner this gets done the better, because right now it's obvious they don't really have a plan anymore.
Yes, CCP seriously blew it and wasted 3 years of our time. Yes, we're just as pissed off at them as you are for neglecting other aspects of the game while they did that. We are ALL playing the same game and feel this **** the same as you. but what is done is done. To let that three years of bullshit be for nothing is just insanity now. WiS is in the game, we need to push for it to actually be relevant now.
We also need to push for **** like cosmos, for FW, for half the **** they cut out of dominion, for half the **** they cut out of tyrannis, etc. Even if some of that **** didn't matter to you, it mattered to someone who patiently waited for it. We are all victims of the same cycle of stupidity, and nobody should get left out in the cold on this. |

Mars Theran
EVE Rogues EVE Rogues Alliance
121
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Posted - 2012.01.01 03:05:00 -
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As someone who was looking forward to Ambulation, then Incarna for ~2 years, I have to say being locked in a room with a view of my ship was more or less intriguing, but not very fun. Incarna is more than Ambulation in its current form, but a lot less than the original idea was presented.
I really would like to see the day when players huddle together over game tables in cantinas to pass the time. More in some areas than others of course, and certainly not in preference to playing with ships in space. I mean the social activity that doesn't quite include mashing peoples faces in over fitting requirements and other such things.
So maybe Incarna/WiS is a long ways off. I'm willing to wait for a quality product to be released, and enjoy whatever comes with it when it does. TIIP: The Incredible Invisible Poster |

Kuronaga
Ausbruch
144
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Posted - 2012.01.01 03:09:00 -
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Mars Theran wrote:As someone who was looking forward to Ambulation, then Incarna for ~2 years, I have to say being locked in a room with a view of my ship was more or less intriguing, but not very fun. Incarna is more than Ambulation in its current form, but a lot less than the original idea was presented.
I really would like to see the day when players huddle together over game tables in cantinas to pass the time. More in some areas than others of course, and certainly not in preference to playing with ships in space. I mean the social activity that doesn't quite include mashing peoples faces in over fitting requirements and other such things.
So maybe Incarna/WiS is a long ways off. I'm willing to wait for a quality product to be released, and enjoy whatever comes with it when it does.
You should tell them what it is you actually want. Apparently their own game designers haven't got a clue, and if you leave it to them you could end up waiting a very long time indeed. |

Ladie Harlot
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
1793
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Posted - 2012.01.01 07:25:00 -
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Kuronaga wrote: You should tell them what it is you actually want. Apparently their own game designers haven't got a clue, and if you leave it to them you could end up waiting a very long time indeed.
They got a big clue when they lost a ton of subscribers after releasing Incarna. They got the message that when they ignore actual Eve content they lose money. Hopefully they don't forget that any time soon.
A few people are really emotional about the ability to play dress up with their avatar but emotion doesn't count for much when it means a huge reduction in money coming in. The artist formerly known as Ladie Scarlet. |

DeMichael Crimson
Republic University Minmatar Republic
1257
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Posted - 2012.01.01 07:36:00 -
[2126] - Quote
Ladie Harlot wrote:Kuronaga wrote: You should tell them what it is you actually want. Apparently their own game designers haven't got a clue, and if you leave it to them you could end up waiting a very long time indeed.
They got a big clue when they lost a ton of subscribers after releasing Incarna. They got the message that when they ignore actual Eve content they lose money. Hopefully they don't forget that any time soon. A few people are really emotional about the ability to play dress up with their avatar but emotion doesn't count for much when it means a huge reduction in money coming in.
Love how you twist everything around, like how you continue to keep this thread alive, hate how you keep mistaking WiS for Incarna.
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Tiberius Sunstealer
Phantom Soulreavers Axiom Solaris
124
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Posted - 2012.01.01 07:38:00 -
[2127] - Quote
Ladie Harlot wrote:A few people are really emotional about the ability to play dress up with their avatar but emotion doesn't count for much when it means a huge reduction in money coming in. I really like the idea of WiS. It would add a whole new layer of interaction though I do see that it's a game not a social interaction tool. That being said, common sense would think that they could've implemented the whole WiS that they promised in 18 months instead of 1 CQ even with only 5 people working on it. Oh well, this is CCP. They are the masters of mysteries. |

Alpheias
Euphoria Released 0ccupational Hazzard
496
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Posted - 2012.01.01 07:38:00 -
[2128] - Quote
DeMichael Crimson wrote:Ladie Harlot wrote:Kuronaga wrote: You should tell them what it is you actually want. Apparently their own game designers haven't got a clue, and if you leave it to them you could end up waiting a very long time indeed.
They got a big clue when they lost a ton of subscribers after releasing Incarna. They got the message that when they ignore actual Eve content they lose money. Hopefully they don't forget that any time soon. A few people are really emotional about the ability to play dress up with their avatar but emotion doesn't count for much when it means a huge reduction in money coming in. Love how you twist everything around, like how you continue to keep this thread alive, hate how you keep mistaking WiS for Incarna.
I love how desperate you are for Incarna. Like a prisoner in a gas chamber, gasping for air... I'd kill kittens and puppies and bunnies I'd maim toddlers and teens and then more |

Ladie Harlot
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
1793
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Posted - 2012.01.01 07:43:00 -
[2129] - Quote
DeMichael Crimson wrote:Love how you twist everything around, like how you continue to keep this thread alive, hate how you keep mistaking WiS for Incarna.
Do you know who else equates WiS with Incarna?
CCP. The artist formerly known as Ladie Scarlet. |

Ladie Harlot
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
1793
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Posted - 2012.01.01 07:44:00 -
[2130] - Quote
Alpheias wrote:I love how desperate you are for Incarna. Like a prisoner in a gas chamber, gasping for air... It's getting a little creepy seeing how obsessed people are with something that almost killed the game they claim to love so much.
The artist formerly known as Ladie Scarlet. |
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