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Kuronaga
Ausbruch
144
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Posted - 2012.01.03 20:01:00 -
[2281] - Quote
There is a difference between griefing and pvp. Even from my pirating days I knew that.
Frankly you just sound mentally disturbed if you want to focus your hatred on one particular person that much. |

Alpheias
Euphoria Released 0ccupational Hazzard
496
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Posted - 2012.01.03 20:10:00 -
[2282] - Quote
Kuronaga wrote: There is a difference between griefing and pvp. Even from my pirating days I knew that.
But then you found Jesus and now, you want to play dress up with other like-minded cretins?
And I like both griefing and pvp, for different reasons.
Kuronaga wrote: Frankly you just sound mentally disturbed if you want to focus your hatred on one particular person that much.
I am sorry, armchair psychiatrist, I don't listen to bullshit and you are both stunningly and embarrassingly full of ****. I'd kill kittens and puppies and bunnies I'd maim toddlers and teens and then more |

Kuronaga
Ausbruch
144
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Posted - 2012.01.03 20:12:00 -
[2283] - Quote
Alpheias wrote:Kuronaga wrote: There is a difference between griefing and pvp. Even from my pirating days I knew that.
But then you found Jesus and now, you want to play dress up with other like-minded cretins? And I like both griefing and pvp, for different reasons. Kuronaga wrote: Frankly you just sound mentally disturbed if you want to focus your hatred on one particular person that much.
I am sorry, armchair psychiatrist, I don't listen to bullshit and you are both stunningly and embarrassingly full of ****.
So you act psychotic, and have also done your best to reflect that in your emo looking portrait.
In other words, you have no relevance whatsoever in any discussion. You are just looking for attention. |

Alpheias
Euphoria Released 0ccupational Hazzard
496
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Posted - 2012.01.03 20:24:00 -
[2284] - Quote
Kuronaga wrote:
So you act psychotic, and have also done your best to reflect that in your emo looking portrait.
In other words, you have no relevance whatsoever in any discussion. You are just looking for attention.
Well, I had rampant murdering psychotic in mind when I poked around with Alpheias' portrait so I am going take it as a compliment.
Yours could use a little work though, and I suggest go from uncomfortably ***** to the badass pirate you "used to be". Unless you are more comfortable with the dress up so much that you rather look uncomfortably *****.
And somehow I manage to get your attention all the time. Gonna ask me out, m'lady? I'd kill kittens and puppies and bunnies I'd maim toddlers and teens and then more |

Vertisce Soritenshi
Varion Galactic Tragedy.
1218
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Posted - 2012.01.03 20:26:00 -
[2285] - Quote
Kuronaga wrote:Alpheias wrote:Kuronaga wrote: There is a difference between griefing and pvp. Even from my pirating days I knew that.
But then you found Jesus and now, you want to play dress up with other like-minded cretins? And I like both griefing and pvp, for different reasons. Kuronaga wrote: Frankly you just sound mentally disturbed if you want to focus your hatred on one particular person that much.
I am sorry, armchair psychiatrist, I don't listen to bullshit and you are both stunningly and embarrassingly full of ****. So you act psychotic, and have also done your best to reflect that in your emo looking portrait. In other words, you have no relevance whatsoever in any discussion. You are just looking for attention. THIS^
Seriously...so damned fixated on one thing that you can't see the real issue... EvE is not about PvP.-á EvE is about the SANDBOX! - CCP!-á Open the door!!! |

Arcathra
Technodyne Ltd.
183
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Posted - 2012.01.03 20:27:00 -
[2286] - Quote
Alpheias wrote: Oh, so there has to be some kind of incentive, like a huge reward so you want to take that risk? Go play a theme park MMO and you can get the social experience that you crave and at no risk, the rewards!
Of course. Why should I take a risk if there is no reward in doing so? Makes no sense. EVE is already about risk vs. reward at every corner. People are choosing constantly what risk they are willing to take for what reward. Why should there be a great risk in socializing? Makes no sense. But great risk in smuggling contraband, that makes perfectly sense. It also makes sense to apply a similar template that is used in the core game (high-sec, low-sec, etc.) to WiS locations. A theme park MMO doesn't offer me the risk, I just get instant rewards. That isn't what I am talking about and what I want, read my text again or should I draw you a picture?
It's really funny with you haters, even when trying to take your arguments into consideration and trying to create a compromise you won't even listen. But yea, there it is again... arguing on the internet... 
Alpheias wrote:And so what if I am looking for new ways to grief players? And so what if I am looking for new ways to socialize with players? Same stupid question. Why is your "griefing" more relevant than socializing? EVE needs both and there has to be some kind of balance. The problem is that the (allowed) griefing-gameplay contradicts with other playing styles that are as valid as griefing. There is always a lot of tension between those player groups. Sadly that is nothing we can really change in a sandbox enviroment. But I think the different security zones in EVE do a really good job to keep this tension as low as possible. Therefore it is a good idea to have some similar system in stations.
Alpheias wrote:If you want to be safe from any kind of hostile actions by another player whilst logged in, you are simply playing the wrong game. The way I see it, podding you enough times and you won't undock and at that point, I just need to stay in the same system as you and you won't undock. I think you have the wrong impression of me. Did I say that I want to be safe of any kind of hostile actions? Again, read what I'm writing. I said that a game like EVE needs some save spots. You can agree with that or not. There are some of those ingame and it is mostly working as intended (eg high-sec itself, not safe entirely, but enough for most players). Sounds you are also one of the "remove high-sec"-supporters, arn't you? Think this is the wrong thread to discuss such fundamental principles of the game.
Just let's assume I really wouldn't undock if you are in system. How is that bothering you? Am I denieing you some kind of "rightful" kill or what is exactly your problem with that? With the famous Hulkageddon approaching, many miners will stop mining because their think the risk is to high. Most of them will just do something else they perceive as not as risky. After the event is over they will start to mine again and be happy about the high mineral prices. Do they also play the wrong game? Seems they get along fine with it... (okay, there are some raging morons who can't and in this case, I'm on your side). |

Issler Dainze
Tadakastu-Obata Corporation The Honda Accord
1101
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Posted - 2012.01.03 20:40:00 -
[2287] - Quote
Alpheias wrote:Kuronaga wrote: There is a difference between griefing and pvp. Even from my pirating days I knew that.
But then you found Jesus and now, you want to play dress up with other like-minded cretins? And I like both griefing and pvp, for different reasons. Kuronaga wrote: Frankly you just sound mentally disturbed if you want to focus your hatred on one particular person that much.
I am sorry, armchair psychiatrist, I don't listen to bullshit and you are both stunningly and embarrassingly full of ****.
Sad demented panda crying out "look at me"!
Good news is most of Eve knows how they want to play Eve and your opinion is not only the minority, but should Eve survive even more an outlier.
More time is spent in Eve in PvE, industry and trade the pure PvP. Simple fact and easy to see with simple direct observation. The fact that CCP has put so much effort into making these key game elements conerstones of the Eve sandbox proves the CCP believes in Eve as a SciFi simulator and not just an internet spaceships shoot a stranger in the face game you seem to think it is. If you don't believe CCP thinks of Eve as a SciFi simulator then you need to learn the "google" and do your homework.
That you rant so much about folks wanting the next level of SciFi simulation (ambulation) from Eve means you lack any interest in SciFi or a basic imagination.
I've been trying not to respond to negative troll types and I am ignoring anything some of the regular trolls post here but you deserve this one response. You are wrong about Eve, CCP, WiS.
And please keep bumping the thread. I'm hoping for 200 pages. But if you insist on posting more, try and evolve your argument to more than personal attacks and claims that you alone understand how Eve is supposed to be played and you opinion is the only correct one. You don't and it isn't.
I've stated my case for WiS with solid arguments and continue to call out to CCP to clarify plans for WiS moving forward, and despite the folks that say otherwise it appears that at this moment there are no resources assigned to WiS and no plans for further development. If someone can point me at a statement from CCP other than the phrase "back burnered" as that phrase is as likely to mean no resources as some resources (I linked multiple definitions previously) I'd love to be corrected.
CCP! Open the door!!!
Issler |

Vertisce Soritenshi
Varion Galactic Tragedy.
1218
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Posted - 2012.01.03 20:47:00 -
[2288] - Quote
Issler Dainze wrote:
CCP! Open the door!!!
I think im putting that in my sig... EvE is not about PvP.-á EvE is about the SANDBOX! - CCP!-á Open the door!!! |

Mistrala DeLegra
Novus Alba FerrumSus
29
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Posted - 2012.01.03 21:08:00 -
[2289] - Quote
The thing that makes me laugh about all these troll's telling people that EVE is not about "playing dress up" or Eve is not about being social, YET! you all took time out to creat a pretty respectful looking avitar pic, you took time to pose it, dress it, light it just right so that you look good to others (well with exception of a few trolls who still look fugly as sin lol), But as someone esle said, EVE is ever expanding and ever growing, Incarna has been a plan of CCP's for MANNNNNNY years!!! and hopefully they will follow through and resume work on it in the near future.
To the trolls i say, Its not for you to tell me i can or cant do something in this game, you dont pay my subscription fee so there for you have no say on how i decide to play my game, if i CHOOSE to spend my own hard earned RL money on AUR and buy vanity items (which i have) thats my business and my money to waste, stop crying about it, these forums are for EVERYONE to express there opinion, and lets face it, opinions are like A'holes, everyone has one, some have bigger ones than others lol....im firmly in the "CCP! Open the door!!!" camp ;) |

Alpheias
Euphoria Released 0ccupational Hazzard
496
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Posted - 2012.01.03 21:44:00 -
[2290] - Quote
Issler Dainze wrote: learn the "google" and do your homework.
I did. I googled you and considering your "track record" on eve-search, I am happy that CCP continues to ignore this thread of yours.
And how is your crave for attention going? I'd kill kittens and puppies and bunnies I'd maim toddlers and teens and then more |
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Hikaru Kuroda
Shimai of New Eden
39
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Posted - 2012.01.03 22:04:00 -
[2291] - Quote
Why people who have nothing to do with the topic keep posting in this thread? |

Vertisce Soritenshi
Varion Galactic Tragedy.
1218
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Posted - 2012.01.03 22:07:00 -
[2292] - Quote
Hikaru Kuroda wrote:Why people who have nothing to do with the topic keep posting in this thread? Trolls. EvE is not about PvP.-á EvE is about the SANDBOX! - CCP!-á Open the door!!! |

Hikaru Kuroda
Shimai of New Eden
39
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Posted - 2012.01.03 22:13:00 -
[2293] - Quote
Vertisce Soritenshi wrote:Hikaru Kuroda wrote:Why people who have nothing to do with the topic keep posting in this thread? Trolls.
I know, but that is what I cannot understand.
They keep bumping the thread and do not want Incarna/WiS.
Why not to go to low/null for some spaceships pew-pew and take a break of forum-pvp, guys? |

Kelsi Corynn
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
32
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Posted - 2012.01.03 22:16:00 -
[2294] - Quote
I'm sure CCP will clarify their WIS plans in due time. But it'll be a while, because it's currently on the backburner.  |

Kuronaga
Ausbruch
144
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Posted - 2012.01.03 22:54:00 -
[2295] - Quote
Alpheias wrote:
And somehow I manage to get your attention all the time. Gonna ask me out, m'lady?
I'd hit worse. You're too bitchy to buy dinner for though. |

Vertisce Soritenshi
Varion Galactic Tragedy.
1218
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Posted - 2012.01.04 01:41:00 -
[2296] - Quote
Kelsi Corynn wrote:I'm sure CCP will clarify their WIS plans in due time. But it'll be a while, because it's currently on the backburner. 
Anybody wanna take bets that they are actually still working on WiS and just keeping it a secret so the little whiny bitches will shut the **** up about it?  EvE is not about PvP.-á EvE is about the SANDBOX! - CCP!-á Open the door!!! |

Doc Fury
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
523
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Posted - 2012.01.04 02:04:00 -
[2297] - Quote
Vertisce Soritenshi wrote:Kelsi Corynn wrote:I'm sure CCP will clarify their WIS plans in due time. But it'll be a while, because it's currently on the backburner.  Anybody wanna take bets that they are actually still working on WiS and just keeping it a secret so the little whiny bitches will shut the **** up about it? 
I have no doubt that *some* work is still being continued on WIS, but no one is going to get any answers until fanfest at the soonest, no matter how many pages this thread reaches, or how much crying, hand-wringing, philosophizing, and bleating for answers occurs here. The accumulated filth of all their sex and murder will foam up about their waists and all the ho's and politicians will look up and shout 'Save us!' and I'll look down, and whisper 'no.' |

Jita Alt666
950
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Posted - 2012.01.04 02:24:00 -
[2298] - Quote
Doc Fury wrote: I have no doubt that *some* work is still being continued on WIS, but you are not going to get any answers until fanfest at the soonest, no matter how many pages this thread reaches, or how much crying, hand-wringing, philosophizing, and bleating for answers occurs here.
Agree completely. Any-one else remember the 18 month fiasco from post Dominion?
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Taiwanistan
Wildly Inappropriate Goonswarm Federation
192
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Posted - 2012.01.04 02:47:00 -
[2299] - Quote
Issler Dainze wrote:Alpheias wrote:Kuronaga wrote: There is a difference between griefing and pvp. Even from my pirating days I knew that.
But then you found Jesus and now, you want to play dress up with other like-minded cretins? And I like both griefing and pvp, for different reasons. Kuronaga wrote: Frankly you just sound mentally disturbed if you want to focus your hatred on one particular person that much.
I am sorry, armchair psychiatrist, I don't listen to bullshit and you are both stunningly and embarrassingly full of ****. Sad demented panda crying out "look at me"! Good news is most of Eve knows how they want to play Eve and your opinion is not only the minority, but should Eve survive even more an outlier. More time is spent in Eve in PvE, industry and trade the pure PvP. Simple fact and easy to see with simple direct observation. The fact that CCP has put so much effort into making these key game elements conerstones of the Eve sandbox proves the CCP believes in Eve as a SciFi simulator and not just an internet spaceships shoot a stranger in the face game you seem to think it is. If you don't believe CCP thinks of Eve as a SciFi simulator then you need to learn the "google" and do your homework. That you rant so much about folks wanting the next level of SciFi simulation (ambulation) from Eve means you lack any interest in SciFi or a basic imagination. I've been trying not to respond to negative troll types and I am ignoring anything some of the regular trolls post here but you deserve this one response. You are wrong about Eve, CCP, WiS. And please keep bumping the thread. I'm hoping for 200 pages. But if you insist on posting more, try and evolve your argument to more than personal attacks and claims that you alone understand how Eve is supposed to be played and you opinion is the only correct one. You don't and it isn't. I've stated my case for WiS with solid arguments and continue to call out to CCP to clarify plans for WiS moving forward, and despite the folks that say otherwise it appears that at this moment there are no resources assigned to WiS and no plans for further development. If someone can point me at a statement from CCP other than the phrase "back burnered" as that phrase is as likely to mean no resources as some resources (I linked multiple definitions previously) I'd love to be corrected. CCP! Open the door!!! Issler see you are saying all you want is a progress update or statement of intent from ccp with the future of wis and then you end it with the open the door!!!111 meme, and sad panda you are ignoring the discussions (yes i only troll 80% of the time, 20% is discussion) the core of which was that there IS NO PURPOSE OF WIS AS OF NOW look at the postings of DeMichael Crimson, and even he agrees that it will inevitably take YEARS for ccp to realize their vision, and he is fine with it, that first steps must be taken even though they may seem meaningless, that it is all in preparation for the grander scheme of things, hey i am going to repeat it for you one more time, it takes years for ccp to "fix things" christ are you new to the ways of ccp?
and then here you are again repeating your juvenile open the door!!! like now!!! foot stomping, not engaging in the discussions, because you just want the door open, like it ain't no thing that just makes me want to get uncivil, stoop to your level, it makes you look gullible, and your cause frivolous
what is wrong with dress-up and /emoting with a bunch of dudes? read it again DRESSING UP AND /EMOTING WITH A BUNCH OF DUDES, it's unseemly, and so is your meme flinging and yeah it's a bump, free of charge
One thing is for sure, you and I are not friends, buddies or pals so don't /emote me with DMC. That's DeMichael Crimson to you.            |

Kuronaga
Ausbruch
144
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Posted - 2012.01.04 03:09:00 -
[2300] - Quote
I think the marketing idea behind WiS was to get more chicks playing the game, so you wouldn't have to emote with dudes. Which is good, since they like playing with barbies they can stay back at the station all day to cook meals and do my laundry. |
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Taiwanistan
Wildly Inappropriate Goonswarm Federation
192
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Posted - 2012.01.04 03:12:00 -
[2301] - Quote
Kuronaga wrote:I think the marketing idea behind WiS was to get more chicks playing the game, so you wouldn't have to emote with dudes. Which is good, since they like playing with barbies they can stay back at the station all day to cook meals and do my laundry. that's actually kind of offensive One thing is for sure, you and I are not friends, buddies or pals so don't /emote me with DMC. That's DeMichael Crimson to you.            |

Taiwanistan
Wildly Inappropriate Goonswarm Federation
192
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Posted - 2012.01.04 03:13:00 -
[2302] - Quote
Vertisce Soritenshi wrote:Issler Dainze wrote:
CCP! Open the door!!!
I think im putting that in my sig... nice i hope they have a special /grovelingus emote just for you One thing is for sure, you and I are not friends, buddies or pals so don't /emote me with DMC. That's DeMichael Crimson to you.            |

Kuronaga
Ausbruch
144
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Posted - 2012.01.04 03:15:00 -
[2303] - Quote
Taiwanistan wrote:Kuronaga wrote:I think the marketing idea behind WiS was to get more chicks playing the game, so you wouldn't have to emote with dudes. Which is good, since they like playing with barbies they can stay back at the station all day to cook meals and do my laundry. that's actually kind of offensive
Yea, you like that? Been working on that one. |

Surge Roth
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
38
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Posted - 2012.01.04 03:48:00 -
[2304] - Quote
Taiwanistan wrote:Kuronaga wrote:I think the marketing idea behind WiS was to get more chicks playing the game, so you wouldn't have to emote with dudes. Which is good, since they like playing with barbies they can stay back at the station all day to cook meals and do my laundry. that's actually kind of offensive
Your entire alliance is offensive. |

Issler Dainze
Tadakastu-Obata Corporation The Honda Accord
1101
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Posted - 2012.01.04 04:33:00 -
[2305] - Quote
Taiwanistan wrote:Issler Dainze wrote:Alpheias wrote:Kuronaga wrote: There is a difference between griefing and pvp. Even from my pirating days I knew that.
But then you found Jesus and now, you want to play dress up with other like-minded cretins? And I like both griefing and pvp, for different reasons. Kuronaga wrote: Frankly you just sound mentally disturbed if you want to focus your hatred on one particular person that much.
I am sorry, armchair psychiatrist, I don't listen to bullshit and you are both stunningly and embarrassingly full of ****. Sad demented panda crying out "look at me"! Good news is most of Eve knows how they want to play Eve and your opinion is not only the minority, but should Eve survive even more an outlier. More time is spent in Eve in PvE, industry and trade the pure PvP. Simple fact and easy to see with simple direct observation. The fact that CCP has put so much effort into making these key game elements conerstones of the Eve sandbox proves the CCP believes in Eve as a SciFi simulator and not just an internet spaceships shoot a stranger in the face game you seem to think it is. If you don't believe CCP thinks of Eve as a SciFi simulator then you need to learn the "google" and do your homework. That you rant so much about folks wanting the next level of SciFi simulation (ambulation) from Eve means you lack any interest in SciFi or a basic imagination. I've been trying not to respond to negative troll types and I am ignoring anything some of the regular trolls post here but you deserve this one response. You are wrong about Eve, CCP, WiS. And please keep bumping the thread. I'm hoping for 200 pages. But if you insist on posting more, try and evolve your argument to more than personal attacks and claims that you alone understand how Eve is supposed to be played and you opinion is the only correct one. You don't and it isn't. I've stated my case for WiS with solid arguments and continue to call out to CCP to clarify plans for WiS moving forward, and despite the folks that say otherwise it appears that at this moment there are no resources assigned to WiS and no plans for further development. If someone can point me at a statement from CCP other than the phrase "back burnered" as that phrase is as likely to mean no resources as some resources (I linked multiple definitions previously) I'd love to be corrected. CCP! Open the door!!! Issler see you are saying all you want is a progress update or statement of intent from ccp with the future of wis and then you end it with the open the door!!!111 meme, and sad panda you are ignoring the discussions (yes i only troll 80% of the time, 20% is discussion) the core of which was that there IS NO PURPOSE OF WIS AS OF NOW look at the postings of DeMichael Crimson, and even he agrees that it will inevitably take YEARS for ccp to realize their vision, and he is fine with it, that first steps must be taken even though they may seem meaningless, that it is all in preparation for the grander scheme of things, hey i am going to repeat it for you one more time, it takes years for ccp to "fix things" christ are you new to the ways of ccp? and then here you are again repeating your juvenile open the door!!! like now!!! foot stomping, not engaging in the discussions, because you just want the door open, like it ain't no thing that just makes me want to get uncivil, stoop to your level, it makes you look gullible, and your cause frivolous what is wrong with dress-up and /emoting with a bunch of dudes? read it again DRESSING UP AND /EMOTING WITH A BUNCH OF DUDES, it's unseemly, and so is your meme flinging and yeah it's a bump, free of charge
Not engaging in the discussions? I guess you just skipped to the end of the thread. What I haven't engaged is obvious and repetitive trolls that only shout "barbie" in their argument against. I would settle for a status update but in the end I want CCP to deliver the promise of WiS.
More folks like "open the door" as a rally cry than not. As to you saying there is no point to WiS at this point, again, I guess reading the actual thread was too much work. There are plenty of folks besides me that have suggested how WiS could make Eve more fun for many of us,
I've been in Eve since the beginning, how long have you been here?
Issler |

Xuko Nuki
Lacking In Diplomacy RED.OverLord
40
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Posted - 2012.01.04 04:40:00 -
[2306] - Quote
The people who cry about WiS never actually understood the problems that Incursion represented. They just got caught up in the mob, saw avatars and figured this was the new cool thing to complain about. |

Jaroslav Unwanted
Brutor Tribe Minmatar Republic
1372
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Posted - 2012.01.04 06:51:00 -
[2307] - Quote
Xuko Nuki wrote:The people who cry about WiS never actually understood the problems that Incarna represented. They just got caught up in the mob, saw avatars and figured this was the new cool thing to complain about.
Incursion is part of other problem, combined with null anomalies nerf. Which is the main reason of the unsubs anyway. OTT : Not sure whose idea was to remove all carebears from null but i got my guess. |

Forum Fighter
Doomheim
49
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Posted - 2012.01.04 07:33:00 -
[2308] - Quote
Everytime they make some progress on Wis they get spam called on Skype by Shittani nerdraging about Fis and using words like: "hubris." Bearer of the 1600mm Tinfoil HatGäó |

Jaroslav Unwanted
Brutor Tribe Minmatar Republic
1372
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Posted - 2012.01.04 07:34:00 -
[2309] - Quote
Forum Fighter wrote:Everytime they make some progress on Wis they get spam called on Skype by Mittani nerdraging about Fis.
No, not really. As far as i know compete removing of WiS and NeX are not on CSM agenda. And he does not look like an guy who suffering from reality disconnection to be nerdraging .. |

49125
Lightning Squad
10
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Posted - 2012.01.04 07:51:00 -
[2310] - Quote
Arcathra wrote: I already answered this, but I'll summarize for you again: I am not getting anything out of it unless I know for a fact that I can murder your toon, leave it in a pool of blood and steal your **** in "WiS". Anything less than that, well, please do hurry up and GTFO my game.
Agreed.
Risk. Life. The two are either mutually exclusive (undead) or not (everything else).
In hi-sec you can be kilt easily enough.
Even in life you can be present one second and not, the next. ~
WiS must conform to the established EVE ethos: Life is precious. Life is hard work.
Clones? A buffer. Nothing more.
Rambling - sorry. -v- |
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