So, when you say "fanbase", you are referring to the handful of people posting over and over again in this thread demanding answers? The relevant thread in the CSM area and the "what 3 things do you want to see in the next expansion thread" is more representative of the actual WIS "fanbase".

Also, a threadnaught occurs within days and not over 2.5 months, and involves a majority of like minded players. In this thread, we have 100 pages where the majority of the posters are telling the pro-WIS people to step off, and the few who have a reasonable agenda are pitching "do this" feature ideas in the wrong forum area.

Again, my tiny violin, let me play it for you. If you and others are that pissed off, why are you all still paying and posting here when you already know CCP is not going to concede to what might at best work out to be less than half a percent of the players?

I wanted the FIS content I was paying for that CCP had built up and promised for the last 4+ years in their TV ads, trailers and marketing materials, but instead we got half baked expansions because their efforts were divided elsewhere. Ultimately all they could show us for all that WASTED Dev time, cash and effort was a closet with a door we could not open and a new graphics engine designed primarily for their now-defunct emo vampire MMO and whatever other "games" they wanted to gamble on making.

CCP is struggling and very focused right now to save their collective asses, and you are oblivious to that because you don't seem to realize where their revenue comes from TODAY.

I've never seen a TV commercial promoting WIS content. Have you?

Please explain what this wonderful poast has to do with space barbie, ladie harlot.

It's a bunch of roleplaying crap. If the devs spend any time on garbage like that it would take away from real Eve content.

Shooting people in the face is roleplaying crap?

I like to shoot my gf in the face when we are done roleplaying.

I'm sorry to hear it would take away from your real fake internet spaceship content.

How on earth is spaceship content "fake" in an internet spaceship game?

EVE core gameplay and half-baked features included with "expansions" have been starved for DEV resources for the last 4+ years, primarily because of WIS and WOD, with players begging CCP to just fix and finish what they started the whole time.

Sound familiar?

You guys are bitching because CCP has not said or done anything visibly with WIS for 2 months. My tiny violin, let me play it for you.


Seriously, I think you guys can wait until fanfest. If not, unsub until then assuming they throw you a bone in March. Maybe they have a big surprise for you? If so, where/when do you think they will announce it?

There is no upside for CCP giving any more specific information. The space barbie fetishists are crazy people and won't accept the info that has already been given and if they sent any other devs in here they would just be abused by people who are demanding that CCP take actions that they know will be harmful to the future of their game.

It's a bunch of roleplaying crap. If the devs spend any time on garbage like that it would take away from real Eve content.

It's a bunch of roleplaying crap.

I think emotions run a bit high here at the moment. Can you haters please stop to repeat insulting people?

But I have to be fair here. We really do have the answer from CCP that WiS is on the backburner and we will not see any new WiS related content in the near future. We might not like it, but the haters are right on this. We know through other threads and dev blogs that devs posted that there are currently no devs working on the graphical aspects of WiS and that teams who worked on WiS content were moved to other teams or given other tasks.

Yes, it is a bit frustrating that they didn't answered that questions in this thread that is all about WiS and that they seem to ignore our questions. Yes, we have some questions (I already stated a few) that we would like to have answered and that we are not that clear about. But I can understand that they simply don't want to or don't can answer them at the moment. I'm not demanding anything. There is no reason to make such an uproar. Let's wait until fanfest, maybe we get some new infos about the future of WiS there.
If they will refuse to tell us anything about it at fanfest, we can still start our uproar and shoot the Jita Monument or something...

Even that I really would like WiS to "happen", I can understand the tough decision CCP made and I wouldn't quit when WiS wouldn't happen.

So my messege to the supporters is: Please stay calm and don't let the haters troll you. We will get our answers sooner or later and if someone wants to take the appropriate steps, he can.

If they have nothing to say, then they should come here and say so.

Very, very few posts in this thread are pro-WiS. Also 100 pages isn't a threadnaught.

All your argument clashes against a single fact:

There is CCP staff whose only purpose is to talk to community.

And nobody of them has come and said anything relevant to the topic sicne CCP Phantom's platitude that 3 CQs were to be released. Every other piece of info we've got we've got it elsewhere, by indirect means. Nobody has taken 5 minutes to come here and a say "now you must wait, that's all we got to say".

If they have nothing to say, then they should come here and say so. That would be end of thread.

You can dock your ship in my real station any day.




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All your argument clashes against a single fact:

There is CCP staff whose only purpose is to talk to community.

Yes, but as we all know customer service's only goal is to do as little as possible until they're fired or find another job.

edit: actually this applies to most of CCP

Possibly because they are not real spaceships, ergo they are fake.

2011.12.09 20:24 is when you first posted in these forums. You've been in a NPC corp for almost 5 years and most likely have very little standing built up with NPC Agents, Factions and Corps. Probably have just enough skills trained up to scout and light a cyno. This tells me that someone has brought you here in an attempt to bolster and give credence to all Anti-WiS posted replies. Obviously this type of facade is being done by a few different players.

Since you're almost 5 years old, you know damn well that WiS and WoD have not been taking all of the Dev Resources for +4 years. That's gotta be the biggest nonfactual statement that I've seen yet in this thread. Also grouping WiS and WoD together shows a complete lack of information on your part.

Players have been asking CCP to fix and finish game content ever since Beta. Players have also been asking for WiS ever since Ambulation was revealed.

Any more posted remarks made by you or any other players using terms or making references such as 'Space barbie fetishists', 'Crazy', 'Crybabies', etc. will be reported as offensive, insulting troll remarks intended to berate players and incite a Flame war.

Obviously you didn't bother to read it and your use of the word 'crap' and 'garbage' to describe it is both insulting and offensive. This type of vindictive posting is not beneficial or helpful to the Community and portrays the Forum Community in a negative viewpoint.

Was there a point in there someplace, because if so I am missing it. Are you now claiming my posting in this thread is a part of some big conspiracy? Yes, this is an alt, which happens to be 5 years old. I have others much older and younger. I dunno' about you, but I'm one of those players with multiple accounts and alts. I even have some of those dirty industrial alts, and have participated in *gasp* mining as well as PVP and nullsec political faggotry. I also am one of those Pro-FIS people that unsubbed last year when CCP tried to force a cash shop and broken content down our throats under the guise of :excellence:. I came back in December when CCP begged me to via free game time on the cusp of Hilmar's apology.

I'd suggest that you check out the old forums where I was very vocal about the direction of the game and CCP incompetence for most of this character's 5 year life.

You also need to train reading comprehension to at least level 3, because I never said ALL Dev resources were diverted to WIS and WOD. I said EVE core gameplay was starved, and because of that we got half-baked unfinished expansions and unpatched bugs were left to languish. Also, WIS (incarna) and the underlying tech (Carbon) developed for WIS are very much tied to WOD, CCP built it as a foundation for WOD and we are its beta testers who pay for that privilege. It seems you being incredulous here, or maybe you just don't have a clue what you are talking about. I suspect both are true.

EVE core gameplay and half-baked features included with "expansions" have been starved for DEV resources for the last 4+ years, primarily because of WIS and WOD, with players begging CCP to just fix and finish what they started the whole time.

But hey, nice try at an ad hominem attack, I guess you have run out of real arguments why CCP should waste time responding to you again here after they already have. I think you need another layer of tinfoil for your hat.

Was there a point in there someplace, because if so I am missing it. Are you now claiming my posting in this thread is a part of some big conspiracy? Yes, this is an alt, which happens to be 5 years old. I have others much older and younger. I dunno' about you, but I'm one of those players with multiple accounts and alts. I even have some of those dirty industrial alts, and have participated in *gasp* mining as well as PVP and nullsec political faggotry. I also am one of those Pro-FIS people that unsubbed last year when CCP tried to force a cash shop and more broken, unfinished content down our throats under the guise of :excellence:. I came back in December when CCP begged me to via free game time on the cusp of Hilmar's apology.

I'd suggest that you check out the old forums where I was very vocal about the direction of the game and CCP incompetence for most of this character's 5 year life.

3) The old forums are rife with Testies and Goons *cough* Mittens *cough* threatening to rage quit and demanded CCP focus on space boats and doing things their way... or else. Then again, as a CSM member with the odd 6k members and 4k pets supporting your policies or they risk facing das boot, it's not hard to see why the CSM advocated the changes they did.

But apart from all of that the CSM "advocated the changes they did" because it was the right thing for the game.

But apart from all of that the CSM "advocated the changes they did" because it was the right thing for the game.

I lolled.

1) CCP offers every unsubbed account a reactivation offer after x amount of months. I've received many in between taking breaks from Eve and never threatened to rage quit over an expansion.

2) CCP didn't force a MT cash shop or broken content down your throat. They gave you outfits via breaking down plex and the foundations for WiS (I saw plenty of blogs and posts on what they were and still are planning for WiS, but I never saw a single dev blog saying Incarna will be 100% finished in 1 expansion). But whatever helps keep your justification for extortion/blackmail afloat sugar.

3) The old forums are rife with Testies and Goons *cough* Mittens *cough* threatening to rage quit and demanded CCP focus on space boats and doing things their way... or else. Then again, as a CSM member with the odd 6k members and 4k pets supporting your policies or they risk facing das boot, it's not hard to see why the CSM advocated the changes they did.

I absolutely agree.

It was the right thing for the game.... the Goonswarm game.

Let's be totally honest, here -- Goonswarm is only objecting because with full station environments, people won't have any reason to decide they're bored and undock into their pewpew layzer blobz.