Let's be totally honest, here -- Goonswarm is only objecting because with full station environments, people won't have any reason to decide they're bored and undock into their pewpew layzer blobz.

Right because we certainly wouldn't be able to find a way to mess with people in an avatar based game... :cripes:
You guys are looking way too hard for reasons why we are against WiS. It's really as simple as we don't want to see the internet spaceship game we enjoy playing fail. Luckily the majority of Eve players agree with us.

While many of us would like to see this new area of game play expanded into something worthwhile, none of us want to see that happen at the expense of the rest of the game.

You're wrong about some of the more...enthusiastic WiS proponents. They do want more WiS nonsense instead of more Eve content.

Asking for "EVE content" is just as shadowy as asking for WiS.

Asking for "EVE content" is just as shadowy as asking for WiS. The great thing about EVE is the variety of activities it has to offer which includes but are not limited to the spaceships. You need to realize that there are peaceful peeps out there chilling with asteroids or docked during months playing the market. Or the politics. Even within the safety of highsec, there are corps been wardecced by higher military forces everyday preventing them from undocking or even tearing apart their projects. For all of them, WiS is just the EVE content they miss.

and that CCP tells us what it's future plans for WiS are.

Why does CCP owe you this information?

Because we invested money into the companies promises for several years and were let down immensely.

If it was the same situation with FiS you'd be singing a different tune.

In fact, you were.

You are 100% wrong.

We pay a monthly fee and the only thing CCP owes us is access to the game for the amount of time we pay for. For our subscription fee we aren't owed any future development and anybody who expects it is dumb.

The people who rioted and canceled their accounts were sending a message that if CCP continued to waste time on WiS nonsense that they weren't going to continue to pay every month for access to the game. Fortunately there were enough people that did this that it finally made CCP wake up and change direction.

So first you say that we are not to expect any future development at all.

Then you say the riots were about CCP developing WiS.

And here you are complaining about development allocation.

Precious.

So first you say that we are not to expect any future development at all.

Then you say the riots were about CCP developing WiS.

And here you are complaining about development allocation.

Precious.

Because we invested money into the companies promises for several years and were let down immensely.

If it was the same situation with FiS you'd be singing a different tune.

How is that any different then the letdown to FIS players who have been paying CCP a sub for several years to build EVE the serious internet spaceship game and finish the features thay only half-finished while most of the company's resources were diverted during that time to fund Incarna/WOD and DUST?

It isn't. Our request for answers is just as valid as those asking what is going on with FiS.

It isn't. Our request for answers is just as valid as those asking what is going on with FiS.

They answered you. WIS is postponed (backburner). FIS makes CCP money now and helps to retain existing subscribers. That is why they are again focused on FIS instead of something that is going to take years to work in a way that will satisfy your expectations.

What we got was Hilmar saying that Incarna was an essential part of the future of EVE, then he said that it was something that they 'may' get back to. We are asking CCP to clarify his remarks.

I enjoy the fact that people like you are so threatened by a simple request for clarification.

What we got was Hilmar saying that Incarna was an essential part of the future of EVE, then he said that it was something that they 'may' get back to. We are asking CCP to clarify his remarks.

I enjoy the fact that people like you are so threatened by a simple request for clarification.

They answered you..

What we got was Hilmar saying that Incarna was an essential part of the future of EVE, then he said that it was something that they 'may' get back to. We are asking CCP to clarify his remarks.

I enjoy the fact that people like you are so threatened by a simple request for clarification.

You've had half-finished and sometimes broken features for years.

We've had no features for years.

I am failing to see how you guys got the raw end of the stick.

We've had no features for years.

No. As usual you didn't actually read what I wrote.

We pay a monthly fee and the only thing CCP owes us is access to the game for the amount of time we pay for. For our subscription fee we aren't owed any future development and anybody who expects it is dumb.

I said that the riots and people canceling their accounts were doing so because the game had been neglected for two years and we were tired of paying for a broken game that was being neglected while CCP worked on space pants.

You guys are trying to make this way more complicated than it needs to be.

We can't really give a clear statement on the future of WiS because at this time because we have no updated plan, and only have some ideas rolling around.

WiS is not our top priority for us at the moment at least, while we re-organize everything and sort out some other things, but as soon as we know more, you'll know more (or you know...really soon after as it always takes a little bit of time to write dev blogs and stuff).

You are playing the wrong game.