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Wendat Huron
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Posted - 2005.12.05 23:07:00 -
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They're quite frankly horrible and isn't worth being posted under news, to keep them on the login window rename the column Propaganda.
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BoBĘs day out, a nightmare for Venal residents? Last
night there were an exceptionally large number of
pilots surrounding the Venal Region when Band of
Brothers decided to relax a little up north. Venal has
always been a heavily contested area and lately it
has been a central region for the Phoenix Alliance
together with their close friends NSBI alliance and
F-E...
What tripe is this? 'day out', 'relax a little', is there no screening whatsoever on these pieces and why is there no blocking function on worthless features/reporters?
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Glassback
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Posted - 2005.12.05 23:08:00 -
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Grumpy.
G.
I've got an idea--an idea so smart that my head would explode if I even began to know what I'm talking about
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Kira Natel
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Posted - 2005.12.05 23:12:00 -
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Agreed that they are pretty much worthless except to anyone who is involved
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Branco
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Posted - 2005.12.05 23:17:00 -
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Originally by: Kira Natel
Agreed that they are pretty much worthless except to anyone who is involved
Well... I like to know what is going on. I'm quite happy at the number of news coming these last few days.
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Taihira
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Posted - 2005.12.05 23:17:00 -
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People complain if there is no news about any action.
now, people complain because there is news being written about player actions
Whingers.
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Avon
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Posted - 2005.12.05 23:20:00 -
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Sounds fairly accurate to me tbh.
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Deja Thoris
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Posted - 2005.12.05 23:20:00 -
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"Relax a little" does sound really horrible tbh.
But...
I like the news, it gives a lot of players an idea of whats happening. If they can take out the rubbish expressions (like in your example) it will sound more like news and less like Hello! magazine.
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Kyoko Sakoda
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Posted - 2005.12.05 23:26:00 -
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I think the point that's being made is that news reports should be objective and unbiased. To be honest, FOX writes better reports that whoever writes these 
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Hakera
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Posted - 2005.12.05 23:32:00 -
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jealous?
ps the reporter forgot to mention the 6 EDF squadron who have been marauding around the north. We made all the difference! *ahem*
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Wendat Huron
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Posted - 2005.12.05 23:47:00 -
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Originally by: Hakera
jealous?
ps the reporter forgot to mention the 6 EDF squadron who have been marauding around the north. We made all the difference! *ahem*
Here's a life lesson for you, not everyone not agreeing with you is jealous of what you have or do.
The reporter didn't forget, there simply wasn't time in his two minute deadline to include you.
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Uggster
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Posted - 2005.12.05 23:55:00 -
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Player News = Great for the game
Player News that sounds like a 1940 Propaganda film = Very Silly indeed. 
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Maya Rkell
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Posted - 2005.12.05 23:59:00 -
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Add a checklist to let people filter.
I for one, for example, get my general Eve news off the website and would prefer to have just in-game news when I login...
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Rod Blaine
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Posted - 2005.12.06 00:12:00 -
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The news needs to be in character.
"Relaxing up north" is nto in character.
"A possible new stage in a long running bloody conflict between pod-pilot factions in the outer reaches of the eve cluster" would be more appropiate.
I know, note veryone wants to play with in character stuff, neither do I most of the time. But, these stories make the background and athmosphere of Eve if you let them. Writing them as some type of sports article is not the way to encourage that immersion...
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HUGO DRAX
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Posted - 2005.12.06 00:27:00 -
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I think player news is cool. Even though it does not involve me its interesting to know whats happening in the game.
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Dark Shikari
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Posted - 2005.12.06 00:38:00 -
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I find it funny how ISD said that players can't write news because it wouldn't meet their strict standards, and then they post this tripe.
We need more news, but well-written news. If it means creating a player-run system for submitting news and accepting more ISDs, so be it.
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Dianabolic
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Posted - 2005.12.06 00:44:00 -
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Originally by: Dark Shikari
I find it funny how ISD said that players can't write news because it wouldn't meet their strict standards, and then they post this tripe.
We need more news, but well-written news. If it means creating a player-run system for submitting news and accepting more ISDs, so be it.
Agreed, I think the rate at which news is flowing is really good now, it just needs to implemented better, but I have no doubt CCP will seek to improve it.
For what it's worth, they're on the right track, the new news service gets my vote.
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j0sephine
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Posted - 2005.12.06 00:57:00 -
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If i recall right, it's third time CCP tried to add in-game news service which would report on player-created events and political changes.
Without fail, no more than 2-3 weeks after they are introduced, as soon as someone doesn't like the way particular piece of news described them, whining and demands to can the whole thing starts. And since there's no way for any piece of these news to please everyone involved (as demands for 'objectivity' is generally the bullsh.t for "why doesn't it make *me* look good") ... with each new piece there's another faction that gets offended, and the whining increases. Until the obvious end.
looks like the end of third cycle is starting... it's rather sad, to be honest :/
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Goberth Ludwig
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Posted - 2005.12.06 01:19:00 -
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Wud probably work better if news reported for example a single fact like "big battle OR alliance disbanding" and then there were 2-4 articles of max 20 lines written by "press guys" of the various factions involved - with ofc a final filter by ISD.
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MaiLina KaTar
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Posted - 2005.12.06 02:24:00 -
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Originally by: j0sephine
looks like the end of third cycle is starting... it's rather sad, to be honest :/
So you're not going to agree that this particular piece was worded really bad and doesn't sound like "news" at all?
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j0sephine
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Posted - 2005.12.06 02:56:00 -
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"So you're not going to agree that this particular piece was worded really bad and doesn't sound like "news" at all?"
I skimmed over it without paying real attention to fluff around the main piece, "BoB is in Venal and shoots local, claims to be on sight-seeing trip; residents unimpressed". Which seems to be the gist of it. The reporter took time to ask and quote involved parties about the subject, too ... what else should there be in order for that piece to "sound like news"? A deep political analysis and forecast of possible events for six month ahead, courtesy of Tinfoil Hat Brigade..?
It seems to me people get all bent out of shape because the article wasn't written in dead serious tone... but it's not like you never get this sort of reporting in regular press. And to call for killing the whole news program because of it... insanity, overblown egos and lack of distance to self at its finest.
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Ja'kar
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Posted - 2005.12.06 03:06:00 -
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I like reading them from time-2-time
hmmm- guess then u dont have to read them..
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Lygos
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Posted - 2005.12.06 03:14:00 -
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Some of the articles do have a complete fanboi tone from time to time.
Do "reporters" have such a hard time securing interviews?
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Mishima
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Posted - 2005.12.06 04:30:00 -
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Big laughts in my corp when we saw that post about Teddys or Tundragons (same corps to me) were thinking about quitting or sum.
I filed a question to the CCP staff about why the player news were so boring. Why dont they report on cool people like me? :(
The report on the outpost and the interview that came with it was nice reporting. But news about those stupid fleetbattles are so pathetic.
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Berrik Radhok
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Posted - 2005.12.06 04:52:00 -
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Agreed, I don't care about what some players I'll never ever see are doing way on the other side of the galaxy.
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Malthros Zenobia
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Posted - 2005.12.06 05:32:00 -
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Originally by: Berrik Radhok
Agreed, I don't care about what some players I'll never ever see are doing way on the other side of the galaxy.
You probably don't care about alot of what's on the evening news. On the other hand, I doubt those news stations care if you care, enough others care.
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Christopher Scott
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Posted - 2005.12.06 05:50:00 -
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The last article was about an entire fleet of Mordu's legion challenging XirtamVotf to a 10vs1 while he was equipped with mining lasers. They exaggerated that one sentence into a full-blown news report.
I'd love to see ISD make news reports on player events in EVE, but for ****s sake put some effort into it.
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Arielle deVoir
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Posted - 2005.12.06 06:30:00 -
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The line 'relax a little' is a summary of what Shrike told me in an interview. All articles are either based on what we see or what we hear from players.
Please mail [email protected] if you have a problem with the news or would like to point our attention to something that is happening in the universe that we should know of.
We have more reporters and thus we can report on more player events, even if they are small.
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Madison IV
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Posted - 2005.12.06 06:50:00 -
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Edited by: Madison IV on 06/12/2005 06:54:51
dunno...
as a new 14-day Trial player, I really like the news articles, and the concept of some sort of "Official" reporting on the activities of the Game' Players. It gives me a sense of immersion and involvement in the game world that other games just don't give.
I was blown away when I asked in Rookie Help Chat "Those news articles, are they about actual Players or just NPC stuff?" and the chatters told me that the stories were indeed about *actual* players.
this concept is one of the types of things that sets EVE apart from other MMOs.
I'm no expert on EVE, but it sounds to me like the OP is whining for really no good reason here. maybe he should apply to write some articles so that the "lesser" folks who do take the time to submit this "tripe" can learn from his almighty example of how it is supposed to be properly done.
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Kaell Meynn
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Posted - 2005.12.06 07:18:00 -
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Originally by: Rod Blaine
The news needs to be in character.
"Relaxing up north" is nto in character.
"A possible new stage in a long running bloody conflict between pod-pilot factions in the outer reaches of the eve cluster" would be more appropiate.
I know, note veryone wants to play with in character stuff, neither do I most of the time. But, these stories make the background and athmosphere of Eve if you let them. Writing them as some type of sports article is not the way to encourage that immersion...
Agreed. Please no more OOC 'news' items. While it may be a time of relaxing for the players, the characters are fighting in life and death battles... they are most certainly not 'relaxing up north'.
Perhaps some rules on 'only factual statements in main body and title, and only IC then'. Keep entire thing IC, report only facts in main part and in title, and put propaganda and/or what people on different sides think about it in clearly labeled non-factual sections.
If BoB spanks some corporation, causing them to disband, broke, and they lose all their stations and PoSs, DONT post "BoB spanks FGC...", instead post the facts "BoB fights FGC in ABC region... BoB now claim all stations, FGC has disbanded... statement from Bob 'blah'... statement from FGC 'blah'".
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Madison IV
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Posted - 2005.12.06 07:22:00 -
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Originally by: Kaell Meynn
Originally by: Rod Blaine
The news needs to be in character.
"Relaxing up north" is nto in character.
"A possible new stage in a long running bloody conflict between pod-pilot factions in the outer reaches of the eve cluster" would be more appropiate.
I know, note veryone wants to play with in character stuff, neither do I most of the time. But, these stories make the background and athmosphere of Eve if you let them. Writing them as some type of sports article is not the way to encourage that immersion...
Agreed. Please no more OOC 'news' items. While it may be a time of relaxing for the players, the characters are fighting in life and death battles... they are most certainly not 'relaxing up north'.
Perhaps some rules on 'only factual statements in main body and title, and only IC then'. Keep entire thing IC, report only facts in main part and in title, and put propaganda and/or what people on different sides think about it in clearly labeled non-factual sections.
If BoB spanks some corporation, causing them to disband, broke, and they lose all their stations and PoSs, DONT post "BoB spanks FGC...", instead post the facts "BoB fights FGC in ABC region... BoB now claim all stations, FGC has disbanded... statement from Bob 'blah'... statement from FGC 'blah'".
I can agree that the News Articles *do* need to be 100% "in-character". But they *should* still exist.
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