The only people that seem to believe the null sec and low sec matters are those that use it.

Right now Domi have become rather expensive, I wonder why...

Is this how discussions tend to go with you guys? A couple legitimate counterpoints and you just completely disappear from the thread?

No "Oh, I guess that's a good point," or "Well, I didn't think of it that way. Maybe I was wrong." Nothing? Just act like this discussion never took place?

I figured there was a counterargument after my last point last night, but since I presented a Boolean argument, they either have to accept it or claim logic does not exist.

GǪor go for a third option: show that it's not actually a boolean argument, and that presenting it as such is fallacious.

So no, they don't have to do either of those two, making it yet another false dichotomy.

Out of curiosity, what was the 3rd option?

The alliances do their industry outside of null, where it isn't broken.

Maybe you shouldn't have made a bat based on poor logic and kept readingGǪ?

If null is in high sec building crap and mining crap, it means they no longer are exclusively null sec.

Which means they are the second part of my Boolean argument.

I don't know why I even try to convince someone so obviously refuses to see logic.

Because CCP added a big list of extra materials to the manufacturing costs because they were too cheap.

The sudden spike in the last week has nothing to do with manufacturing cost

Just so that you know. Domi's are selling about -17% below mineral cost. Which means its more profitable to just sell the minerals on the market.

Just so that you know. Domi's are selling about -17% below mineral cost. Which means its more profitable to just sell the minerals on the market.

You are trying to tell me that null sec players are in high sec and don't rely on high sec miners to get their stuff.

And are you telling me that no alliance miners mine by themselves if no one else is on?

Look you can't be a nullseccer if you are in high sec mining for your alliance.

Keep posting. You are making yourself look bad.

Look. You are not comprehending what I am saying.

And if there is at least one, it means your entire argument is false.

Secondly, you can't tell me that some alliances actually don't buy some minerals or resources from Jita.

Tippia is really good at that. LOL!

Yes, and you're the best.

*sigh* Its like arguing with a four legged animal.

If at least one null sec member buys any goods from Jita it means they support lone high sec mining.

Sure this might mean that null sec industry needs fixing, but it doesn't mean that null sec industry is 100% self sufficient.

Answer my question? Do I need null and low sec to play EVE online?

As already explained to you in full, yes. You have yet to dispute or disprove this with anything other than evasions and abuse, which rather suggests that you have no actual counter-argument and that you know full well that it's true.

Bullshit.

Tell me one thing, one thing I need from null or low to play EVE online- just one thing!

Then prove it.
Tell us what it is you do and how you believe it to be completely disconnected to the market, to production, and to destruction.

I've told you a number of things. Maybe you should address them and demonstrate how they aren't needed.

Yep..knew it...you are just trolling and refuse to answering the question.

Because even if null and low sec were removed and no longer existed - guess what I can still play.

Does this not pose a problem?

I agree. It's as if you didn't understand the difference between premise, syllogism and conclusion. It seems you are completely oblivious to the concept of fallacies and which type operates at which level.

Ok. You went off the rails that early this time, huh. Ok let's go back to that original statement yet again:

GÇ£Alliances have their own resources, in all respects.
Trust [Amnesiaa Haze], Alliances do not rely on lone Hisec miners to supply their war efforts.GÇ¥

If at least one null sec member buys any goods from Jita, it means squat for how much alliance relies on highsec mining. Unless they pretty much all do it to a man, the alliance does not rely on those miners.

GǪwhich no-one claimed to begin with. The claim was that Gǣalliances have their own resources, in all respectsGǥ. Alliances. Not nullsec industry. You need to stop making up strawman arguments and claims that were never made. You need to stop with your non-exhaustive categorisation.

You're piling fallacy upon fallacy upon fallacy, and then you complain that no-one agrees with your logic. There's a reason for that: because it's fallacious GÇö it does not hold.

As already explained to you in full, yes. You have yet to dispute or disprove this with anything other than evasions and abuse, which rather suggests that you have no actual counter-argument and that you know full well that it's true.