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ImmutableDark
The Church of Awesome Caldari State Capturing
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Posted - 2013.07.12 13:53:00 -
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So I was mining in High Sec listening to disco at my keyboard when all of a sudden what should happen? A group of TERRORISTS comes along and accuses me of mining without a license! I all of a sudden need a mining license to mine veldspar? They blow up my mining barge and demand that I pay homage to James 315, pay 10million isk a year to mine and put a message in my bio stating that James 315 is the savior of high sec among other things.
THIS IS HARASSMENT HIGH SEC IS SUPPOSED TO BE 100% SAFE FOR PEOPLE WHO JUST WANT TO FLY SPACESHIPS!!!!! I just want to fly spaceships and be happy! I want to run missions and mine! I don't see why I should fall victim to HACKERS who EXPLOIT the GAME MECHANICS to HARASS people. I'm a cripple and the only enjoyment I get out of life is watching timers go down in internet spaceship games. You're just losing CCP money when miners leave the game because you blew their hard earned ships up. Elite Forum Warrior. |
Temmu Guerra
Interwebs Cooter Explosion Fatal Ascension
118
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Posted - 2013.07.12 13:56:00 -
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2/10 Troll attempt...
you laid it on too thick. |
Blawrf McTaggart
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
1585
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Posted - 2013.07.12 13:56:00 -
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yes |
Feyd Rautha Harkonnen
Lords.Of.Midnight The Devil's Warrior Alliance
119
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Posted - 2013.07.12 13:56:00 -
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Well allow me to retort
http://evedarklord.blogspot.ca |
stoicfaux
2936
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Posted - 2013.07.12 13:56:00 -
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Steam is having their summer sale: X3:Terran Conflict for only $3.99: http://store.steampowered.com/app/2820/ Or you can pick up the entire X2 to X3 series for $19.99.
Oh, wait, did you actually mean "I'm trolling, look at me! Look at me!"? Sorry, my bad, please ignore my response.
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Lugalbandak
Anunnaku Industrial Corp. Northern Associates.
9
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Posted - 2013.07.12 14:06:00 -
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ImmutableDark wrote:So I was mining in High Sec listening to disco at my keyboard .
This should be enough to blow your ship |
Asuri Kinnes
Adhocracy Incorporated Adhocracy
729
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Posted - 2013.07.12 14:09:00 -
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ImmutableDark wrote:So I was mining in High Sec listening to disco at my keyboard when all of a sudden what should happen? A group of TERRORISTS comes along and accuses me of mining without a license! I all of a sudden need a mining license to mine veldspar? They blow up my mining barge and demand that I pay homage to James 315, pay 10million isk a year to mine and put a message in my bio stating that James 315 is the savior of high sec among other things.
THIS IS HARASSMENT HIGH SEC IS SUPPOSED TO BE 100% SAFE FOR PEOPLE WHO JUST WANT TO FLY SPACESHIPS!!!!! I just want to fly spaceships and be happy! I want to run missions and mine! I don't see why I should fall victim to HACKERS who EXPLOIT the GAME MECHANICS to HARASS people. I'm a cripple and the only enjoyment I get out of life is watching timers go down in internet spaceship games. You're just losing CCP money when miners leave the game because you blew their hard earned ships up. You're trying to hard, this is old news, just move (that last just in case you've been living under a rock for the last year *or* aren't a 315 troll/bottom feeder/sycophant).
Edit to add: You are *no* kind of "elite forum anything".
Interdict Hi-Sec - it's the only way to be sure... |
Multor Kaston
Pator Tech School Minmatar Republic
1
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Posted - 2013.07.12 14:09:00 -
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Let's intrude on someone else's fun because we have a God complex about how this game should be played. That is essentially the mindset of most of those who support the actions of the Order.
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Jorden Ishonen
Kinetic Technologies
27
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Posted - 2013.07.12 14:13:00 -
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Temmu Guerra wrote:2/10 Troll attempt...
you laid it on too thick.
Sad thing is that people will still fall for it. |
Lucas Kell
JSR1 AND GOLDEN GUARDIAN PRODUCTIONS SpaceMonkey's Alliance
159
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Posted - 2013.07.12 14:16:00 -
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ImmutableDark wrote:So I was mining in High Sec listening to disco at my keyboard when all of a sudden what should happen? A group of TERRORISTS comes along and accuses me of mining without a license! I all of a sudden need a mining license to mine veldspar? They blow up my mining barge and demand that I pay homage to James 315, pay 10million isk a year to mine and put a message in my bio stating that James 315 is the savior of high sec among other things.
THIS IS HARASSMENT HIGH SEC IS SUPPOSED TO BE 100% SAFE FOR PEOPLE WHO JUST WANT TO FLY SPACESHIPS!!!!! I just want to fly spaceships and be happy! I want to run missions and mine! I don't see why I should fall victim to HACKERS who EXPLOIT the GAME MECHANICS to HARASS people. I'm a cripple and the only enjoyment I get out of life is watching timers go down in internet spaceship games. You're just losing CCP money when miners leave the game because you blew their hard earned ships up. Yeah those guys are douches. Luckily the only sit aroud nthe one area of space and are pretty bad at what they do. Get yourself a procurer or a skiff, and put a tank on it. you lsoe a small amount of m3/hour but not much. You should also move to a different area if you can, as they tend to harass people by bumping them for hours on end.
I don't high sec mine, but it's your choice how you want to play the game so you have every right to do that. They however do have every right to stop you, so best to just leave them to their tiny area of space rather than feeding them kills.
Alternatively you could fight back against them. I usually try to score a few new order kills a month with my alt to assist in keeping them in line. The Indecisive Noob - A new EVE Fan Blog for news and stuff. |
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Private Pineapple
Tea And Sympathy Ltd. Liability Reckless Ambition
398
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Posted - 2013.07.12 14:16:00 -
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lol I am the Kingpin of the Crime and Punishment forum. |
Fassin-Taak
Boris Johnson's Love Children
1
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Posted - 2013.07.12 14:17:00 -
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No high-sec is not meant to be 100% safe and you should be banned for clogging up the forums with **** |
Kaarous Aldurald
ROC Academy The ROC
440
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Posted - 2013.07.12 14:17:00 -
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Multor Kaston wrote:Let's intrude on someone else's fun because we have a God complex about how this game should be played. That is essentially the mindset of most of those who support the actions of the Order.
Not true, my friend. I support the New Order for economic reasons. I enjoy having my competition put down, and I enjoy the better sales prices in those areas as a result.
I also thoroughly approve of the defeat of the bots, and the bot aspirants. Such "people", are literally paying not to play the game. Hardly fitting of someone I would call my equal as a "gamer". The quality of the playerbase has been improved as a result. Not posting on my main, and loving it.-á Because free speech.-á |
Doc Fury
Furious Enterprises
2894
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Posted - 2013.07.12 14:19:00 -
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0/10
The accumulated filth of all their sex and murder will foam up about their waists and all the ho's and politicians will look up and shout 'Save us!' and I'll look down, and whisper 'Hodor'. |
Ace Uoweme
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
422
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Posted - 2013.07.12 14:23:00 -
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Not banned (it's an allowable game play), but effective counters (and the devs know harvesting is a solo activity, and making ships with zero offenses is for cheap ganking and pure lazy programming).
The game is setup like this: PvPers need something to kill for PvP to work. To reward PvPers of all stripes the kills have to be difficult for the pros, but also easy for wash outs. Since EvE is also a game about resource control, one method is to kill the harvesters. If it's around the edges of the design it's tolerable, because the miners will accept it as part of the game play. But when it becomes THE tactic in High-Sec, then if it's allowed it disrupts the game itself (since it's about resources and controlling access to them. Do too much interrupting the whole system suffers).
The mining ship changes didn't occur in a vacuum or devs saying, "it's time for ship revamps". It's to counter some of the mess that these gankers have created without upsetting the apple cart too much (it helped on eliminating the problems with can-flipping). But mining ships are still designed to not fight back. It's still depended on a group to protect them, when harvesting is a solo activity (EQII tried to make Tradeskilling a group activity, those group instances died pretty fast, and tradeskillers do them solo now). No PvPer likes to babysit. Which encourages solo harvesting, so gankers can have easy prey.
The problem is the flaw in the design, and players aren't going to resolve it, because it's counter in what they consider fun (and it's not babysitting a solo activity). "In a world of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act." ~George Orwell
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Xavier Higdon
Breakwater Holding Inc.
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Posted - 2013.07.12 14:26:00 -
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Did I just witness the birth of a New Order alt? It's a miracle! A wonder of nature! Now let's capture it, run painful experiments on it and poke it with sharp sticks! |
Ryks Nalar
Hedion University Amarr Empire
6
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Posted - 2013.07.12 14:35:00 -
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I'm just surprised that the New Order still exists. Bearing in mind the name they have "New Order" is the name of a neo-**** religious group and their beliefs are similar, how does their name not violate half the rules on here: http://community.eveonline.com/support/policies/eve-user-policy/
Maybe that's something that should be ticketed. |
Tinker Vuld
New Order Logistics CODE.
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Posted - 2013.07.12 14:40:00 -
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Lets all play along together... Bingo www.minerbumping.com - study it, live it, breathe it, for The Code shall set you free. |
TheGunslinger42
All Web Investigations
1544
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Posted - 2013.07.12 14:41:00 -
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Ryks Nalar wrote:I'm just surprised that the New Order still exists. Bearing in mind the name they have "New Order" is the name of a neo-**** religious group and their beliefs are similar, how does their name not violate half the rules on here: http://community.eveonline.com/support/policies/eve-user-policy/Maybe that's something that should be ticketed.
It is both incredibly stupid and incredibly offensive to try and compare a "New Order" organisation in the game universe to real life extremist groups. "New Order" is nowhere near a violation of the user policy. Go back to spacelawyer school, because you are bad at it.
You are also genuinely a bad human being if you compare shooting spaceships in a game to real life bigotry and atrocities.
Hope this helps |
Felicity Love
Interstellar Booty Hunters
745
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Posted - 2013.07.12 14:42:00 -
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Naw... they're just misunderstood, despite having used small words.
Proud Beta Tester for "Bumping Uglies for Dummies" |
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Frying Doom
2518
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Posted - 2013.07.12 14:42:00 -
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Why does this look like yet another attempt by them to gain publicity.
Old News, Move along. Any spelling and grammatical errors are because frankly, I don't care!! |
Jonah Gravenstein
Balius and Xanthus Traditional Gunsmiths
10366
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Posted - 2013.07.12 14:45:00 -
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Ryks Nalar wrote:I'm just surprised that the New Order still exists. Bearing in mind the name they have "New Order" is the name of a neo-**** religious group and their beliefs are similar, how does their name not violate half the rules on here: http://community.eveonline.com/support/policies/eve-user-policy/Maybe that's something that should be ticketed. It's also the name of an 80's band (best known for the hit single "blue monday", in fact googling the term New Order brings up links mainly relating to that band, ergo New Order is mostly associated with the band formerly known as Joy Division, not some crackpot neo-nasty religious group, and hence doesn't break the rules you linked.
"Knowledge is knowing that a tomato is a fruit, wisdom is knowing not to put it in a fruit salad." |
Ace Uoweme
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
423
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Posted - 2013.07.12 14:46:00 -
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Ryks Nalar wrote:I'm just surprised that the New Order still exists. Bearing in mind the name they have "New Order" is the name of a neo-**** religious group and their beliefs are similar, how does their name not violate half the rules on here: http://community.eveonline.com/support/policies/eve-user-policy/Maybe that's something that should be ticketed.
That would open an even messier problem of players (especially Atheists) that have also created corps to mock religions and skirting the rules. They technically violated no rules with the names, but their message is well known.
Same with the Goons using waffe in their names, which can relate to **** Germany (Luftwaffe for example).
So if folks are going after what the names may imply, there's a lot of corps in EvE that will get those funny generic names due to it.
I'm not a PC type, but can see why games don't allow this stuff, because cleaning it up latter is a mess. "In a world of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act." ~George Orwell
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Ryks Nalar
Hedion University Amarr Empire
6
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Posted - 2013.07.12 14:48:00 -
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TheGunslinger42 wrote:Ryks Nalar wrote:I'm just surprised that the New Order still exists. Bearing in mind the name they have "New Order" is the name of a neo-**** religious group and their beliefs are similar, how does their name not violate half the rules on here: http://community.eveonline.com/support/policies/eve-user-policy/Maybe that's something that should be ticketed. It is both incredibly stupid and incredibly offensive to try and compare a "New Order" organisation in the game universe to real life extremist groups. "New Order" is nowhere near a violation of the user policy. Go back to spacelawyer school, because you are bad at it. You are also genuinely a bad human being if you compare shooting spaceships in a game to real life bigotry and atrocities. Hope this helps Erm... No? They are called New Order. There is a real life religious organisation called New Order. The rule states: "Reflect, glorify or emulate any real-world group or organization, terrorist society, criminal elements, discriminating organizations or their leaders and figureheads. This includes the use of names of real-world military, political or religious groups." The fact that they use the same name is clearly a violation.
The fact that they act in a fashion similar to the real New Order is simply my personal observation, and so is unrelated to the fact that their name violates policy. |
Whitehound
1521
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Posted - 2013.07.12 14:50:00 -
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They should be imprisoned in W-space without exits for a year. A W-space with no sleeper sites but only belts. Loss is meaningful. Therefore is the loss of meaning likewise meaningful. It is the source of all trolling. |
TheGunslinger42
All Web Investigations
1545
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Posted - 2013.07.12 14:53:00 -
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Ryks Nalar wrote:TheGunslinger42 wrote:Ryks Nalar wrote:I'm just surprised that the New Order still exists. Bearing in mind the name they have "New Order" is the name of a neo-**** religious group and their beliefs are similar, how does their name not violate half the rules on here: http://community.eveonline.com/support/policies/eve-user-policy/Maybe that's something that should be ticketed. It is both incredibly stupid and incredibly offensive to try and compare a "New Order" organisation in the game universe to real life extremist groups. "New Order" is nowhere near a violation of the user policy. Go back to spacelawyer school, because you are bad at it. You are also genuinely a bad human being if you compare shooting spaceships in a game to real life bigotry and atrocities. Hope this helps Erm... No? They are called New Order. There is a real life religious organisation called New Order. The rule states: "Reflect, glorify or emulate any real-world group or organization, terrorist society, criminal elements, discriminating organizations or their leaders and figureheads. This includes the use of names of real-world military, political or religious groups." The fact that they use the same name is clearly a violation. The fact that they act in a fashion similar to the real New Order is simply my personal observation, and so is unrelated to the fact that their name violates policy.
There's also a band called new order.
And our actions are not glorifying or emulating any existent group or band.
Hope this helps, spacelawyer.
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Verunae Caseti
Viziam Amarr Empire
95
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Posted - 2013.07.12 14:53:00 -
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When you reduce the art of trolling to basically "Saying really dumb stuff and waiting for people to notice" and you STILL can't do it successfully, you should really start asking some pressing questions of yourself.
If you find the experience of speaking to yourself disconerting, I suggest using a mirror to make it feel like a conversation. Just try not to lose your temper - you could end up with some nasty cuts. |
Ryks Nalar
Hedion University Amarr Empire
6
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Posted - 2013.07.12 14:54:00 -
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Jonah Gravenstein wrote:Ryks Nalar wrote:I'm just surprised that the New Order still exists. Bearing in mind the name they have "New Order" is the name of a neo-**** religious group and their beliefs are similar, how does their name not violate half the rules on here: http://community.eveonline.com/support/policies/eve-user-policy/Maybe that's something that should be ticketed. It's also the name of an 80's band (best known for the hit single "blue monday", in fact googling the term New Order brings up links mainly relating to that band, ergo New Order is mostly associated with the band formerly known as Joy Division, not some crackpot neo-nasty religious group, and hence doesn't break the rules you linked. I should hope if you know anything about history at all though that you would recognise that the New Order is what ****** was trying to bring about in WW2, which is why it is now the name of an organisation devoted to carrying on his beliefs. There are literally hundreds of bands who's names would not be allowed by the EVE naming rules. There are names of bands that I'm not even allowed to post here, so the fact that it is also a band is beside the point. |
Jonah Gravenstein
Balius and Xanthus Traditional Gunsmiths
10366
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Posted - 2013.07.12 14:55:00 -
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Ace Uoweme wrote: Same with the Goons using waffe in their names, which can relate to **** Germany (Luftwaffe for example).
Luftwaffe is still the name of the German Airforce so it can hardly be termed offensive, in fact Luft means Air, and Waffe is Arm(weapon) or Talon. So Goonwaffe literally translated would be thugs with weapons, rather apt.
"Knowledge is knowing that a tomato is a fruit, wisdom is knowing not to put it in a fruit salad." |
Ryks Nalar
Hedion University Amarr Empire
7
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Posted - 2013.07.12 14:56:00 -
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TheGunslinger42 wrote:Ryks Nalar wrote:TheGunslinger42 wrote:Ryks Nalar wrote:I'm just surprised that the New Order still exists. Bearing in mind the name they have "New Order" is the name of a neo-**** religious group and their beliefs are similar, how does their name not violate half the rules on here: http://community.eveonline.com/support/policies/eve-user-policy/Maybe that's something that should be ticketed. It is both incredibly stupid and incredibly offensive to try and compare a "New Order" organisation in the game universe to real life extremist groups. "New Order" is nowhere near a violation of the user policy. Go back to spacelawyer school, because you are bad at it. You are also genuinely a bad human being if you compare shooting spaceships in a game to real life bigotry and atrocities. Hope this helps Erm... No? They are called New Order. There is a real life religious organisation called New Order. The rule states: "Reflect, glorify or emulate any real-world group or organization, terrorist society, criminal elements, discriminating organizations or their leaders and figureheads. This includes the use of names of real-world military, political or religious groups." The fact that they use the same name is clearly a violation. The fact that they act in a fashion similar to the real New Order is simply my personal observation, and so is unrelated to the fact that their name violates policy. There's also a band called new order. And our actions are not glorifying or emulating any existent group or band. Hope this helps, spacelawyer. What you say the name was picked for doesn't really matter. I find it offensive for a bloody good reason, and so may many others. That's what matters. |
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