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Krixtal Icefluxor INLAND EMPIRE Galactic 20840	Posted - 2013.07.12 16:44:00 - [61] - Quote Jonah Gravenstein wrote: Possibly hangers on using the New Order as an excuse for causing mayhem in the belts, I know quite a lot of the guys involved and as far as I know they're still operating mainly in Gallente and Caldari space. I shall ask later to see if they have official agents in Derelik. The worst is this dude: Nithrolayin Nithrolayiin Nithrolayoon Nithrolayaan Nithrolayeen Dude cycles through these during the day. Stops almost all activities in system by industrialists. Just logs off in space. 2 systems he uses don't even have stations. He demands no money, says absolutely nothing. Does not extort. DOES NOT COMMUNICATE AT ALL. All are in NPC Corps.
Beekeeper Bob Beekeepers Anonymous 688	Posted - 2013.07.12 16:44:00 - [62] - Quote New Order attempting to become relevant again? I too am excited about trading playability for more lag and shiny pictures.....:( Petition for a Minimum bounty of 10 mil. Prevent useless bounties!
Krixtal Icefluxor INLAND EMPIRE Galactic 20840	Posted - 2013.07.12 16:45:00 - [63] - Quote Kaarous Aldurald wrote: That's what I hear every time someone complains about ganking in highsec. The last thing this is about is ganking.
Ace Uoweme Republic Military School Minmatar Republic 431	Posted - 2013.07.12 17:40:00 - [64] - Quote Krixtal Icefluxor wrote: Jonah Gravenstein wrote: Possibly hangers on using the New Order as an excuse for causing mayhem in the belts, I know quite a lot of the guys involved and as far as I know they're still operating mainly in Gallente and Caldari space. I shall ask later to see if they have official agents in Derelik. The worst is this dude: Nithrolayin Nithrolayiin Nithrolayoon Nithrolayaan Nithrolayeen Dude cycles through these during the day. Stops almost all activities in system by industrialists. Just logs off in space. 2 systems he uses don't even have stations. He demands no money, says absolutely nothing. Does not extort. DOES NOT COMMUNICATE AT ALL. All are in NPC Corps. Yeah, see these dudes. There's the gate campers that do nothing but pod. Do nothing but scan for his cloakie friend. Do nothing but sit at a gate (some with industrials to haul salvage). Is that the best a player created game can do for action? It's not even fearful. I fear being AFK in WoW more, since the NPCs h-u-r-t now. These humans train for blasters, sitting in NPC corps, kill otherwise defenseless players (my healer in WoW has more DPS and defenses, than a Retriever pilot in a PvP game..."Houston, we have a problem...") in the cheapest rigs known. Whatever happen to the RISK vs Reward??? "In a world of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act." ~George Orwell
Jonah Gravenstein Balius and Xanthus Traditional Gunsmiths 10389	Posted - 2013.07.12 17:42:00 - [65] - Quote Ace Uoweme wrote: Krixtal Icefluxor wrote: Jonah Gravenstein wrote: Possibly hangers on using the New Order as an excuse for causing mayhem in the belts, I know quite a lot of the guys involved and as far as I know they're still operating mainly in Gallente and Caldari space. I shall ask later to see if they have official agents in Derelik. The worst is this dude: Nithrolayin Nithrolayiin Nithrolayoon Nithrolayaan Nithrolayeen Dude cycles through these during the day. Stops almost all activities in system by industrialists. Just logs off in space. 2 systems he uses don't even have stations. He demands no money, says absolutely nothing. Does not extort. DOES NOT COMMUNICATE AT ALL. All are in NPC Corps. Yeah, see these dudes. There's the gate campers that do nothing but pod. Do nothing but scan for his cloakie friend. Do nothing but sit at a gate (some with industrials to haul salvage). Is that the best a player created game can do for action? It's not even fearful. I fear being AFK in WoW more, since the NPCs h-u-r-t now. These humans train for blasters, sitting in NPC corps, kill otherwise defenseless players (my healer in WoW has more DPS and defenses, than a Retriever pilot in a PvP game..."Houston, we have a problem...") in the cheapest rigs known. Whatever happen to the RISK vs Reward??? Fine, go back to WoW then, you obviously don't like it here, so why stay? "Knowledge is knowing that a tomato is a fruit, wisdom is knowing not to put it in a fruit salad."
Plastic Psycho Republic Military School Minmatar Republic 93	Posted - 2013.07.12 17:45:00 - [66] - Quote Krixtal Icefluxor wrote: Jonah Gravenstein wrote: Possibly hangers on using the New Order as an excuse for causing mayhem in the belts, I know quite a lot of the guys involved and as far as I know they're still operating mainly in Gallente and Caldari space. I shall ask later to see if they have official agents in Derelik. The worst is this dude: Nithrolayin Nithrolayiin Nithrolayoon Nithrolayaan Nithrolayeen Dude cycles through these during the day. Stops almost all activities in system by industrialists. Just logs off in space. 2 systems he uses don't even have stations. He demands no money, says absolutely nothing. Does not extort. DOES NOT COMMUNICATE AT ALL. All are in NPC Corps. So? Take prudent precautions, then ignore him. 'Problem' solved.
SmokinDank Horizon Research Group 23	Posted - 2013.07.12 17:58:00 - [67] - Quote Quote: Very few combat drones = hoping your tank survives, because there's 1 mid on a retriever designed for it's survey module Actually, it's designed for whatever you want to put in it, no one forces you to put a survey module in.
Kirtar Makanen GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation 8	Posted - 2013.07.12 18:01:00 - [68] - Quote Ace Uoweme wrote: Krixtal Icefluxor wrote: Jonah Gravenstein wrote: Possibly hangers on using the New Order as an excuse for causing mayhem in the belts, I know quite a lot of the guys involved and as far as I know they're still operating mainly in Gallente and Caldari space. I shall ask later to see if they have official agents in Derelik. The worst is this dude: Nithrolayin Nithrolayiin Nithrolayoon Nithrolayaan Nithrolayeen Dude cycles through these during the day. Stops almost all activities in system by industrialists. Just logs off in space. 2 systems he uses don't even have stations. He demands no money, says absolutely nothing. Does not extort. DOES NOT COMMUNICATE AT ALL. All are in NPC Corps. Yeah, see these dudes. There's the gate campers that do nothing but pod. Do nothing but scan for his cloakie friend. Do nothing but sit at a gate (some with industrials to haul salvage). Is that the best a player created game can do for action? It's not even fearful. I fear being AFK in WoW more, since the NPCs h-u-r-t now. These humans train for blasters, sitting in NPC corps, kill otherwise defenseless players (my healer in WoW has more DPS and defenses, than a Retriever pilot in a PvP game..."Houston, we have a problem...") in the cheapest rigs known. Whatever happen to the RISK vs Reward??? 2mil ship kills a 40mil ship and that's risk when CONCORDed??? What's your point? My support/defensive elementalist in GW2 has more offensive power than a logistics ship. That doesn't mean that logistics ships should gain more offensive power. EVE has a level of specialization that isn't exactly present in other MMOs. Making comparisons to other games isn't really valid.
Plastic Psycho Republic Military School Minmatar Republic 94	Posted - 2013.07.12 18:04:00 - [69] - Quote Ace Uoweme wrote: Plastic Psycho wrote: Ace Uoweme wrote: Q 5 wrote: If you want to troll next time write it up to sound more like a legit beeoach. CCP needs to stop miner harassment by the new order for violation of the EULA is clearly in play here. Miners getting ganked and blown up for simply enjoying themselves for something they pay for and have a right to be left along. Simplest solution is: give them good o' boys guns! They can police themselves. But CCP isn't going to do that, because without something human to hunt bots, they'll overcome the game. But New Order isn't about fixing the bot problem, so they're just as bad as the bots. Who needs guns? Ran across a nest of Retrievers last night, mining away. Their drones? Mosly EW drones - very few combat drones. Good mix - able to shut down a gank long enough for Concord to arrive, and able to deal with any plausible rats. The only plausible threat would then be either bumping, or a very much more expensive gank boat / fleet. Dunno about anyone else, but I'm not throwing an AF or crusier way on a simple miner gank. Maybe if there were enough targets close together, I could see using a suicide disco BS. But how often does that chance come up? Very few combat drones = hoping your tank survives, because there's 1 mid on a retriever designed for it's survey module. And depending on the system, and the usual ganker dessie with Ions, that's not long if he hits hard before EWAR intervenes. A typical Retriever has a tad over 2000 shields, which Ions slice through. So efforts to "teach" miners about evading damage even falls short without the defenses and offenses. Oh, pthbbbbt. EWAR drones screw up a gank quite effectively, unless you've got a specialist-fit gankship. And all you need to do to survive a gank in Hi-Sec, even in 0.5, is break a lock. By the time the ganker re-acquires, Concord will be there. When I mine (and I do occasionally mine - when I'm feeling like self-harming. ), I NEVER bother with a survey module. I fit tank, instead. 'Cause frankly, I don't want to hear it from my friends, should I show up on someone's killboard in an untanked barge.
Jonah Gravenstein Balius and Xanthus Traditional Gunsmiths 10391	Posted - 2013.07.12 18:05:00 - [70] - Quote Kirtar Makanen wrote: What's your point? My support/defensive elementalist in GW2 has more offensive power than a logistics ship. That doesn't mean that logistics ships should gain more offensive power. EVE has a level of specialization that isn't exactly present in other MMOs. Making comparisons to other games isn't really valid.[/quote] It's Ace, comparisons to WoW are the norm, logical or otherwise. "Knowledge is knowing that a tomato is a fruit, wisdom is knowing not to put it in a fruit salad."
Verunae Caseti Viziam Amarr Empire 103	Posted - 2013.07.12 18:08:00 - [71] - Quote Ace Uoweme wrote: (my healer in WoW has more DPS and defenses, than a Retriever pilot in a PvP game..."Houston, we have a problem...") Trying real hard to figure out why that's a problem.
Jonah Gravenstein Balius and Xanthus Traditional Gunsmiths 10396	Posted - 2013.07.12 18:16:00 - [72] - Quote Plastic Psycho wrote: Oh, pthbbbbt. EWAR drones screw up a gank quite effectively, unless you've got a specialist-fit gankship. And all you need to do to survive a gank in Hi-Sec, even in 0.5, is break a lock. By the time the ganker re-acquires, Concord will be there. When I mine (and I do occasionally mine - when I'm feeling like self-harming. ), I NEVER bother with a survey module. I fit tank, instead. 'Cause frankly, I don't want to hear it from my friends, should I show up on someone's killboard in an untanked barge. Better yet, mine in a Procuror, fit tank and a survey scanner (handy for annoying the hell out of those that blindly mine until the roid pops), as for Aces "post", it's the normal "my X in WoW is so much better than Y in Eve" "Knowledge is knowing that a tomato is a fruit, wisdom is knowing not to put it in a fruit salad."
I Love Boobies All Hail Boobies 555	Posted - 2013.07.12 18:19:00 - [73] - Quote Whelp, the New Order weren't getting any forum attention, so they used one of their alts to start a thread to get them more attention. removed inappropriate signature - CCP Eterne
Ace Uoweme Republic Military School Minmatar Republic 433	Posted - 2013.07.12 18:31:00 - [74] - Quote Verunae Caseti wrote: Ace Uoweme wrote: (my healer in WoW has more DPS and defenses, than a Retriever pilot in a PvP game..."Houston, we have a problem...") Trying real hard to figure out why that's a problem. PvP game players need PvP centric defenses and offenses. Even WoW gets that right in a PvE game. "In a world of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act." ~George Orwell
Krixtal Icefluxor INLAND EMPIRE Galactic 20873	Posted - 2013.07.12 18:34:00 - [75] - Quote Plastic Psycho wrote: Krixtal Icefluxor wrote: Jonah Gravenstein wrote: Possibly hangers on using the New Order as an excuse for causing mayhem in the belts, I know quite a lot of the guys involved and as far as I know they're still operating mainly in Gallente and Caldari space. I shall ask later to see if they have official agents in Derelik. The worst is this dude: Nithrolayin Nithrolayiin Nithrolayoon Nithrolayaan Nithrolayeen Dude cycles through these during the day. Stops almost all activities in system by industrialists. Just logs off in space. 2 systems he uses don't even have stations. He demands no money, says absolutely nothing. Does not extort. DOES NOT COMMUNICATE AT ALL. All are in NPC Corps. So? Take prudent precautions, then ignore him. 'Problem' solved. Welp, there really isn't any ignoring him as his alpha-bump knocks a Hulk 55Km from any belt. lol. And he doesn't stop. And he won't talk (as explained above). I ignore him by doing my business elsewhere.
Tippia Sunshine and Lollipops 15455	Posted - 2013.07.12 18:36:00 - [76] - Quote Ace Uoweme wrote: PvP game players need PvP centric defenses and offenses. GÇªand the Retriever has both of those. What it lacks is combat ability, but that's not really a problem either since that's not what it's for. GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥ Get a good start: newbie skill plan 2.0.
Kaarous Aldurald ROC Academy The ROC 450	Posted - 2013.07.12 18:36:00 - [77] - Quote Ace Uoweme wrote: Verunae Caseti wrote: Ace Uoweme wrote: (my healer in WoW has more DPS and defenses, than a Retriever pilot in a PvP game..."Houston, we have a problem...") Trying real hard to figure out why that's a problem. PvP game players need PvP centric defenses and offenses. Even WoW gets that right in a PvE game. Yes, and someone in a Mining Barge has chosen to abandon those defenses in favor of increasing the amount of money they make. It's a tradeoff they made in exchange for losing safety. How is this so hard to understand? Not posting on my main, and loving it.-á Because free speech.-á
Ace Uoweme Republic Military School Minmatar Republic 433	Posted - 2013.07.12 18:37:00 - [78] - Quote SmokinDank wrote: Quote: Very few combat drones = hoping your tank survives, because there's 1 mid on a retriever designed for it's survey module Actually, it's designed for whatever you want to put in it, no one forces you to put a survey module in. Nor does anyone force the criminal to put guns in his turrets. "In a world of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act." ~George Orwell
Plastic Psycho Republic Military School Minmatar Republic 95	Posted - 2013.07.12 18:43:00 - [79] - Quote Jonah Gravenstein wrote: Plastic Psycho wrote: Oh, pthbbbbt. EWAR drones screw up a gank quite effectively, unless you've got a specialist-fit gankship. And all you need to do to survive a gank in Hi-Sec, even in 0.5, is break a lock. By the time the ganker re-acquires, Concord will be there. When I mine (and I do occasionally mine - when I'm feeling like self-harming. ), I NEVER bother with a survey module. I fit tank, instead. 'Cause frankly, I don't want to hear it from my friends, should I show up on someone's killboard in an untanked barge. Better yet, mine in a Procuror, fit tank and a survey scanner (handy for annoying the hell out of those that blindly mine until the roid pops), as for Aces "post", it's the normal "my X in WoW is so much better than Y in Eve" Truth.
Kijo Rikki Powder and Ball Alchemists Union The Predictables 476	Posted - 2013.07.12 18:45:00 - [80] - Quote Is it really only 10 mil a year? That seems like an awesome deal.
Plastic Psycho Republic Military School Minmatar Republic 95	Posted - 2013.07.12 18:49:00 - [81] - Quote Krixtal Icefluxor wrote: Plastic Psycho wrote: So? Take prudent precautions, then ignore him. 'Problem' solved. Welp, there really isn't any ignoring him as his alpha-bump knocks a Hulk 55Km from any belt. lol. And he doesn't stop. And he won't talk (as explained above). I ignore him by doing my business elsewhere. Sounds like a prudent precaution, to me.
Jimmy Morane Aurora Novae Aetatis Expoit This Mf's 101	Posted - 2013.07.12 19:01:00 - [82] - Quote ImmutableDark wrote: Verunae Caseti wrote: When you reduce the art of trolling to basically "Saying really dumb stuff and waiting for people to notice" and you STILL can't do it successfully, you should really start asking some pressing questions of yourself. If you find the experience of speaking to yourself disconerting, I suggest using a mirror to make it feel like a conversation. Just try not to lose your temper - you could end up with some nasty cuts. As a Masorti Jew I am expressly forbidden from trolling. I don't know how your ancient Hebrew is but in the torah it reads "hakek malachu mesiya o bama tanku helel ishayu machischki alamayk". This roughly translates to those who troll are not with god. My Jew hat that I wear tells me that there is always a God above me and that I should be considerate of his will. That's why I'm a zionist and support the occupation of Palestine and the persecution of it's people because I see it as God's divine will and you should too. If your sig didn't tell me what your view of jewish people is then this nugget does. I would not be surprised if there was a certain kind of twisted cross hanging in your basement above your bed. Oh and btw, there is no occupation of Palestine because there is no such thing as Palestine. It's made up bs. Learn some history.
Jonah Gravenstein Balius and Xanthus Traditional Gunsmiths 10412	Posted - 2013.07.12 19:20:00 - [83] - Quote Jimmy Morane wrote: there is no such thing as Palestine. It's made up bs. Learn some history. I beg to differ, the name Palestine was used by the ancient Greeks (around the 4 or 5th century BC) for the approximate geographical area currently known as Israel and the Palestinian Territories, the Roman and Byzantine Empires also used it for the same region, ancient history but historical fact nonetheless. My source? Relatives in the British Army that were present when the state of Israel was created, history classes at school + some basic fact checking. "Knowledge is knowing that a tomato is a fruit, wisdom is knowing not to put it in a fruit salad."
Bing Bangboom DAMAG Safety Commission 183	Posted - 2013.07.12 19:54:00 - [84] - Quote Kijo Rikki wrote: Is it really only 10 mil a year? That seems like an awesome deal. I know, really. As those of you who know me can attest, I make a point of making sure that every miner in the system I am currently controlling is informed of the New Halaima Code of Conduct (www.minerbumping.com) and their responsibilities under it. I patiently explain that EACH miner must have a mining permit, available for 10,000,000 ISK from any Agent of the New Order and that those without them are subject to ganking or bumping. And yet, my kind consideration for the well being of these miners is treated with contempt, with ridicule and with outright rudeness by these self same, I just have to say it, bot aspirants. Time after time after time I am told that buying a permit is something they will not, cannot do. Following the helpful requirements of The Code, which exists solely for the betterment of the miner himself, is beyond their ability. After each confiscation of illegal mining equipment performed by the heroic Knights of the New Order in my area of responsibility I send an informational email to the former owner. In it I detail why they were targeted for enforcement and how they can avoid a repeat of the offense that cost them their ship and often their implants. Sometimes I receive a humble apology and a quick 10,000,000 ISK payment. These miners are entered into the New Order spreadsheet, advised how to identify themselves as Code compliant and go back to their mining activities, secure in the knowledge that they are on the side of right, and on the side of the New Order which is even better security. Alas, most of the replies are vile, offensive insults and suggestions about my heritage, life style choices and level of intelligence. Usually there is also a refusal to abide by The Code. These usually are something like "Honor!", "Extortion!" or "Nevah!". I think these are the unfortunate emotional responses of someone who hasn't thought things through. 10,000,000 ISK, if you can believe the comments in local by the miners themselves, represents mere minutes of their productive capacity. If I was selling a module that greatly reduced the chances of being interrupted while mining for 10,000,000 ISK I would be unable to keep them in stock. The permit IS such a module. And yet, the miners refuse to avail themselves of it. This is flat out stupid. Look, you guys are miners. No one expects you to be heroic or principled or admirable in any way. You aren't William Wallace, you are roid scratchers. But you should at least have economic sense. Buying a permit is such a good economic decision that you really have to question the IQ of anyone who refuses based on some sense of their own self worth. Buy your permit, follow The Code, live. You will be happier for it. It only stings for a minute. Highsec is worth fighting for. Bing Bangboom Agent of the New Order of Highsec Belligerent Undesirable

ISD Tyrozan ISD Community Communications Liaisons 99	Posted - 2013.07.12 20:03:00 - [85] - Quote This topic is turning into a real life discussion of politics and trolling. Topic locked. ISD Tyrozan Captain Community Communication Liaisons (CCLs) Interstellar Services Department


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