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slothe
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Posted - 2005.12.09 12:19:00 -
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Anyone stupid enough to say they got killed while NPCing knowing they face a 100mill isk fine is stupid enough to deserve that fine.
imho it would be interesting if the mods imposed a 100mill isk fine for anyone who posted smack, drunken rants, stupid posts, alt posts etc. then we shall see who suffers ;)
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Dracolich
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Posted - 2005.12.09 12:28:00 -
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Originally by: Malken
Originally by: Melko I would ask the "military" (if one existed) to pay me 100 mil for every time I got ganked Especialy when it's the same people at the same time every day. I hate logging in only to hear "stay docked ATUK are in local" FFS get them out of our space already!!!!!!!!!!!!
ever considered that they are there because there are people like you in the opposing alliance who always expects others to fight for you and defend you so you can make alot of isk for yourself. idiot.
I agree here with Malken on this one.. And not chking local at all times when in 0.0 and/or at war, is just well.. dumb to say the least.
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Dracolich
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Posted - 2005.12.09 12:34:00 -
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Originally by: slothe Anyone stupid enough to say they got killed while NPCing knowing they face a 100mill isk fine is stupid enough to deserve that fine.
Honesty and acknowledgement that you have f***ed up, is stupidity? _______________________________________
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Naphtalia
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Posted - 2005.12.09 12:38:00 -
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Originally by: Darcuese Question I have. What do you think boost hostile moral more:
A) ganking single NPC hunter B) ineffectivnes of PvP gang/fleet (as happened last night in IMK-example)??
You constantly pointing out on those that are ganked and never mention bad actions by your PvP squad.
Both might lose ships, but as I could understude only those that was ganked in belt (or similar) must pay extra. I might missed something and if i did please feel free to correct me. But Im honestly curious for answer to my question
Fair question.. but I will have to return the question I am afraid... what boosts your morale more... ganking a npc raven in a belt that was warned of you incoming with 500m in faction loot... or ganking an enemy fleet while you are on their Teamspeak because they were led by an inexperienced fleetcommander.
The pilots that fought in IMK yesterday were not all part of some 'pvp squad' but tried to fight and screwed up... true..
I am sad it happened...
So what boosts your morale more? :)
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Darcuese
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Posted - 2005.12.09 12:45:00 -
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Originally by: Naphtalia
Fair question.. but I will have to return the question I am afraid... what boosts your morale more... ganking a npc raven in a belt that was warned of you incoming with 500m in faction loot... or ganking an enemy fleet while you are on their Teamspeak because they were led by an inexperienced fleetcommander.
The pilots that fought in IMK yesterday were not all part of some 'pvp squad' but tried to fight and screwed up... true..
I am sad it happened...
So what boosts your morale more? :)
fleet and not Raven with faction loot to be honest. Why?. Cause im still young and give all loot that i pick to corp hangar .hehe. Honestly. You can beliave me or not, but i dont chaise that can after we shoot down ship/s. If im close, ok, if im not close..ok too. It might be stupid and naive, but Im humble guy and have enough for my needs .
Fleet/gang fight are far more fun...no matter who won or lost and how expirianced or not FC's are. At least thats my opinion and my joy ---------------------------------------------------
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quellious
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Posted - 2005.12.09 13:00:00 -
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Hi,
I personnaly have a simple very efficient way to deal with 'careless' pilots...
When a see such a pilot in space (Indus without BMs, Alone BS, Alone Miner, Mining operation that does not respond to local check):
The 1st time it happen, i scramble, webb, and explain that an hostile may be able to do the same as me ... but kill him.
The 2nd time, i scamble, webb and kill ship.
The 3rd time i pod kill also.
I never had to podkill yet.
The reason is simple: i do not want to let hostile having fun/mail killing our pilots. If the 'careless' appear to be able to escape it just mean that he's skilled enough to afford to 'look like' careless.
Ciao.
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thoth foc
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Posted - 2005.12.09 13:01:00 -
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Originally by: Naphtalia
So what boosts your morale more? :)
A gank is only a gank..
Having the F-E "pvper's" hide in thier pos in h-pa every nite while we wander about tribute puts a smile on my face :)
--thoth [5], ex-Curse Alliance ex-DSMA |

Antoinette Civari
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Posted - 2005.12.09 13:03:00 -
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Edited by: Antoinette Civari on 09/12/2005 13:03:17
Originally by: Naphtalia or ganking an enemy fleet while you are on their Teamspeak because they were led by an inexperienced fleetcommander.
Hehe, this one most definitely. I'd be laughing all night. 
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Monkey Time
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Posted - 2005.12.09 14:39:00 -
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Originally by: Naphtalia
Originally by: Darcuese Question I have. What do you think boost hostile moral more:
A) ganking single NPC hunter B) ineffectivnes of PvP gang/fleet (as happened last night in IMK-example)??
You constantly pointing out on those that are ganked and never mention bad actions by your PvP squad.
Both might lose ships, but as I could understude only those that was ganked in belt (or similar) must pay extra. I might missed something and if i did please feel free to correct me. But Im honestly curious for answer to my question
Fair question.. but I will have to return the question I am afraid... what boosts your morale more... ganking a npc raven in a belt that was warned of you incoming with 500m in faction loot... or ganking an enemy fleet while you are on their Teamspeak because they were led by an inexperienced fleetcommander.
The pilots that fought in IMK yesterday were not all part of some 'pvp squad' but tried to fight and screwed up... true..
I am sad it happened...
So what boosts your morale more? :)
naphtalia, those "inexperienced" pvp'rs came and fought us. They actually jumped into us and took us on.
Sure they were unorganised but im sure they learnt from it and next time they will be better.
They did something that MLM, in h-pa, would never do - they jumped in and took on our fleet.
Respect to them for doing it.
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Ku'Gras
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Posted - 2005.12.09 14:50:00 -
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Originally by: Darko1107 Edited by: Darko1107 on 09/12/2005 09:59:25 **** fining them.
Just get them on ts, and shout at them, very, loudly.
Then if they die again, just boot em. At the end of the day, 0 times is enough to learn your lesson, once is 2 much, and twice is taking the ****, you'd have to be very very VERY stupid to get ganked more than that.
Alliances dont need selfish people like that around, it degrades morale, causes arguements, and above all, gives the enemy a ****load of loot.
QFT. I can't believe this really is a discussion.
Ofc take into account what their function are in the corp (they need to freight corp stuff through chokepoints to put in corp hangar?) and their kill to loss ratio.
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Jherek Cornelian
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Posted - 2005.12.09 14:53:00 -
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Originally by: Monkey Time
Originally by: Naphtalia
Originally by: Darcuese Question I have. What do you think boost hostile moral more:
A) ganking single NPC hunter B) ineffectivnes of PvP gang/fleet (as happened last night in IMK-example)??
You constantly pointing out on those that are ganked and never mention bad actions by your PvP squad.
Both might lose ships, but as I could understude only those that was ganked in belt (or similar) must pay extra. I might missed something and if i did please feel free to correct me. But Im honestly curious for answer to my question
Fair question.. but I will have to return the question I am afraid... what boosts your morale more... ganking a npc raven in a belt that was warned of you incoming with 500m in faction loot... or ganking an enemy fleet while you are on their Teamspeak because they were led by an inexperienced fleetcommander.
The pilots that fought in IMK yesterday were not all part of some 'pvp squad' but tried to fight and screwed up... true..
I am sad it happened...
So what boosts your morale more? :)
naphtalia, those "inexperienced" pvp'rs came and fought us. They actually jumped into us and took us on.
Sure they were unorganised but im sure they learnt from it and next time they will be better.
They did something that MLM, in h-pa, would never do - they jumped in and took on our fleet.
Respect to them for doing it.
Monkey, you all station hug until you outnumber us, you come out in 2's or 3's we warp in and you dock.
Eventually you get enough battleships to fight us, then you get more battleships and more.
At this point you all sit outside the station at insta dock range and smack us for not attacking.
When we do attack as soon as we target someone they insta dock.
We are not leaving H-PA mate and no amount of threads rubbishing us in an attempt for you to shame us out is going to work.
You have manpower to remove us, you pull in people from wow as soon as we get even numbers.
But we are still here, cya tonight same time same place 
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thoth foc
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Posted - 2005.12.09 15:13:00 -
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Originally by: Jherek Cornelian
We are not leaving H-PA mate and no amount of threads rubbishing us in an attempt for you to shame us out is going to work.
Your tactics are ofc your own choice, but you usually have what 6 or 8 BS (+ support) parked in ur pos? and IMK gang had what 6 BS (+ support) last nite.. if you'd helped them.. we would have had a good even fight.. instead you left them to die..
Originally by: Jherek Cornelian
You have manpower to remove us
Since your not doing anything why bother?
As you say.. we can basically ignore you in local..
--thoth [5], ex-Curse Alliance ex-DSMA |

Shayla Sh'inlux
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Posted - 2005.12.09 15:17:00 -
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So blow up our PoS with your almight PvP powah and kill us?
I mean, with your spies all over the place you HAVE to know it's not properly defended. So far all I see is inties @400k, a Covert thinking he's clever by naming our fleet composition in local and battleships/HACS undocking and redocking.
Until you have 20 to our 7 and then start smacking we don't fight.
God, you must be proud of yourself.
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Shayla Sh'inlux
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Posted - 2005.12.09 15:21:00 -
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Quote:
Your tactics are ofc your own choice, but you usually have what 6 or 8 BS (+ support) parked in ur pos? and IMK gang had what 6 BS (+ support) last nite.. if you'd helped them.. we would have had a good even fight.. instead you left them to die..
There is not such thing as a good fight with [5].
You only fight when you are 100% sure you can win. And win big, so that your killboards look good and you can cheastbeat on the forums.
If for some reason the enemy outsmarted you and lured you into an (omg!) even battle, you blame lag, drones and CCP. Then you ALSO go to the forum and tell the enemy they are lame for whatever reason and that you planned to lose anyway because 'you jumped in like you always do and only wanted a fight'.
Seriously, go **** yourself.
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Aman Sul
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Posted - 2005.12.09 15:27:00 -
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Edited by: Aman Sul on 09/12/2005 15:31:41
Originally by: Shayla Sh'inlux So blow up our PoS with your almight PvP powah and kill us?
I mean, with your spies all over the place you HAVE to know it's not properly defended. So far all I see is inties @400k, a Covert thinking he's clever by naming our fleet composition in local and battleships/HACS undocking and redocking.
Until you have 20 to our 7 and then start smacking we don't fight.
God, you must be proud of yourself.
Perhaps you are trying to justify getting your hands on some or all the money that the NPCrs are getting fined. What do you have to show for it? I guess if keeping 10% of us busy with the hope of a fight (like yesterday) is why they pay you then good job? 
Yesterday we where out numbered when we first faced off and at 100km you had the upper hand because we had 2 ravens. How did you take advantage of the situation? You warped off... furthermore you shouldnt be suprised that our numbers swell quickly in H-PA, it's our home people log on there.
As far as us not fighting outnumbered... we where outnumbered just yesterday in IMK not our fault you where disorganized. There are videos on these forums that would prove your statement to be untrue.
"Oh yeah there's enough for erbody" |

Jherek Cornelian
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Posted - 2005.12.09 15:27:00 -
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20 mins to reply thoth did you computer break ??. pff I had you in the sweep at 7 mins.
That's a million isk I won't see again 
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slothe
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Posted - 2005.12.09 15:35:00 -
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can this f-e v 5 smack bull**** please stop, from both sides. its really annoying. both sides are as bad as each other but it is playground style behaviour coming from players im guessing whos average age is likely to be around 25 at least.
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thoth foc
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Posted - 2005.12.09 15:35:00 -
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Originally by: Shayla Sh'inlux
Quote:
Your tactics are ofc your own choice, but you usually have what 6 or 8 BS (+ support) parked in ur pos? and IMK gang had what 6 BS (+ support) last nite.. if you'd helped them.. we would have had a good even fight.. instead you left them to die..
There is not such thing as a good fight with [5].
You only fight when you are 100% sure you can win. And win big, so that your killboards look good and you can cheastbeat on the forums.
If for some reason the enemy outsmarted you and lured you into an (omg!) even battle, you blame lag, drones and CCP. Then you ALSO go to the forum and tell the enemy they are lame for whatever reason and that you planned to lose anyway because 'you jumped in like you always do and only wanted a fight'.
Seriously, go **** yourself.
You seemed to have missed the questions posed at the start of the thread..
If i was getting fined 100 mill for dying.. i would expect more from the ppl receiving the isk than:-
"haha we are in the enemies base system of operations.."
as i said b4, i could move a co ops pilot into the system and say the same..
so i ask you, what goal would you set for receiving this isk?
--thoth [5], ex-Curse Alliance ex-DSMA |

Chi Prime
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Posted - 2005.12.09 15:41:00 -
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Originally by: Monkey Time They did something that MLM, in h-pa, would never do - they jumped in and took on our fleet.
LOL, you mean like the suicide runs we made awhile back with the following smack in local from you about how much we suck for loosing our ships needlessly? Yeh, I'm really convinced we would get respect from you by doing that. Not.
Originally by: thoth foc if you'd helped them.. we would have had a good even fight.. instead you left them to die..
ROFL! Like you would ever engage if we had even numbers 
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Aman Sul
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Posted - 2005.12.09 15:45:00 -
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Originally by: thoth foc
Originally by: Shayla Sh'inlux
Quote:
Your tactics are ofc your own choice, but you usually have what 6 or 8 BS (+ support) parked in ur pos? and IMK gang had what 6 BS (+ support) last nite.. if you'd helped them.. we would have had a good even fight.. instead you left them to die..
There is not such thing as a good fight with [5].
You only fight when you are 100% sure you can win. And win big, so that your killboards look good and you can cheastbeat on the forums.
If for some reason the enemy outsmarted you and lured you into an (omg!) even battle, you blame lag, drones and CCP. Then you ALSO go to the forum and tell the enemy they are lame for whatever reason and that you planned to lose anyway because 'you jumped in like you always do and only wanted a fight'.
Seriously, go **** yourself.
You seemed to have missed the questions posed at the start of the thread..
If i was getting fined 100 mill for dying.. i would expect more from the ppl receiving the isk than:-
"haha we are in the enemies base system of operations.."
as i said b4, i could move a co ops pilot into the system and say the same..
so i ask you, what goal would you set for receiving this isk?
They also like to ask if we are annoyed with them in local 
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Jherek Cornelian
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Posted - 2005.12.09 15:51:00 -
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ooh I see what your getting at thoth, you think mlm are being paid ??
We don't see a single bean of the fine isk. That's not what it's for. Get back on our forums and you'll see what it's for.
Does that wrap up this thread ?
Thoth can rest that we are not being paid \o/
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thoth foc
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Posted - 2005.12.09 15:54:00 -
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Originally by: Jherek Cornelian ooh I see what your getting at thoth, you think mlm are being paid ??
We don't see a single bean of the fine isk. That's not what it's for. Get back on our forums and you'll see what it's for.
Does that wrap up this thread ?
Thoth can rest that we are not being paid \o/
Neither question that initiated the thread specified mlm.. so i dont really see how it would..
--thoth [5], ex-Curse Alliance ex-DSMA |

Jherek Cornelian
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Posted - 2005.12.09 15:56:00 -
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but all your questions have been answered.
Your initial question was of course to try and turn F-E membership against MLM, after reading the discussions on F-E own boards.
Once again you failed.
Is there no beginning to your talents ?
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Shamis Orzoz
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Posted - 2005.12.09 15:58:00 -
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Edited by: Shamis Orzoz on 09/12/2005 15:58:20 /emote dusts off his scanner and heads to the belts 
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ElCapitan
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Posted - 2005.12.09 15:59:00 -
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Seems like kind of a band-aid fix. Fundamental problem is that that alliance has people npcing while having enemy squads roaming in their territory...shouldnt they at least try to kill the enemy?
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thoth foc
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Posted - 2005.12.09 15:59:00 -
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Originally by: Jherek Cornelian but all your questions have been answered.
Your initial question was of course to try and turn F-E membership against MLM, after reading the discussions on F-E own boards.
Once again you failed.
Is there no beginning to your talents ?
Maybe i'm interested in more than just your opinion? if you feel the discussion is complete, leave and let others talk about it?
--thoth [5], ex-Curse Alliance ex-DSMA |

dollface
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Posted - 2005.12.09 16:01:00 -
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Originally by: Jherek Cornelian but all your questions have been answered.
Your initial question was of course to try and turn F-E membership against MLM, after reading the discussions on F-E own boards.
Once again you failed.
Is there no beginning to your talents ?
Is your corp fining your alliance buddies for dying? Now that is what I call an ally and friend.
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Sinnister
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Posted - 2005.12.09 16:01:00 -
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This thread is a joke, right?
Originally by: Melko I would ask the "military" (if one existed) to pay me 100 mil for every time I got ganked Especialy when it's the same people at the same time every day. I hate logging in only to hear "stay docked ATUK are in local" FFS get them out of our space already!!!!!!!!!!!!
You know, instead of sitting safe in the station, whining about enemy pilots in "your" space, why don't you undock and HELP REMOVE THEM?
I'm tired of undocking into 10:1 odds while a dozen of my "allies" are sitting there docked, too scared to undock, or refusing to commit a couple of lousy frigates to the defense of billions of isk worth of alliance assets.
Either get in the game, or get out of 0.0.
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Jherek Cornelian
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Posted - 2005.12.09 16:12:00 -
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Originally by: thoth foc
Originally by: Jherek Cornelian but all your questions have been answered.
Your initial question was of course to try and turn F-E membership against MLM, after reading the discussions on F-E own boards.
Once again you failed.
Is there no beginning to your talents ?
Maybe i'm interested in more than just your opinion? if you feel the discussion is complete, leave and let others talk about it?
You have no interest in your own question this entire thread is designed as smack as is most of your time in game. Keep pressing F5 matey it's what you do all the live long day.
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Jherek Cornelian
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Posted - 2005.12.09 16:14:00 -
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Originally by: dollface
Originally by: Jherek Cornelian but all your questions have been answered.
Your initial question was of course to try and turn F-E membership against MLM, after reading the discussions on F-E own boards.
Once again you failed.
Is there no beginning to your talents ?
look im an alt .
good for you.
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