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Jester87
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Posted - 2005.12.10 16:09:00 -
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Im trying to convince some freinds to switch from WoW to Eve..
Please post why Eve is a better game, although I know alot of reasons I seem never to be able to fully convince them and need help
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Exioce
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Posted - 2005.12.10 16:13:00 -
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it's not. the games are what people makes of them. some peeps are EVE people, and some are WoW people. i hear WoW is more PvE based. if your mates are into that rather than PvP they'd prefer WoW.
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Jester87
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Posted - 2005.12.10 16:13:00 -
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well wether it is or isnt, give me Reasons why it would be so i can get my freinds to play lol
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Exioce
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Posted - 2005.12.10 16:15:00 -
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ok, they will never get an adrenaline rush from PvP in WoW as they do in EVE.
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Garik Daemon
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Posted - 2005.12.10 16:15:00 -
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Eve > WoW because WoW doesnt have CRC.
ISD 4tw!!
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Exioce
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Posted - 2005.12.10 16:17:00 -
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also, in EVE a dedicated and organised group of newbies in t1 frigs can take out two year old players flying battleships and HAC's. i doubt that could happen in WoW.
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Dark Shikari
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Posted - 2005.12.10 16:19:00 -
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Edited by: Dark Shikari on 10/12/2005 16:20:00
World of Warcraft is a theme park. You go around, and you hop on rides. You do what the game tells you to do. There is no other options.
EVE is a playground. You can do whatever you want. There are no rides, no lines.
In World of Warcraft, you are strictly limited to following the path Blizzard wants you to follow. You can list the activities a normal player does on one hand.
In EVE, you are free. This cannot be stated enough.
The other big difference is the death penalty. The only thing in which there is any remote freedom in WoW is the PvP, and since there's no death penalty, there's no point in doing it. You don't get loot from kills or anything.
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Glassback
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Posted - 2005.12.10 16:19:00 -
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A death penalty?
I've got an idea--an idea so smart that my head would explode if I even began to know what I'm talking about
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Montague Zooma
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Posted - 2005.12.10 16:22:00 -
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There are no elves or orcs in Eve. That should be plenty.
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Garik Daemon
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Posted - 2005.12.10 16:33:00 -
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 Originally by: Dark Shikari
World of Warcraft is a theme park. You go around, and you hop on rides. You do what the game tells you to do. There is no other options.
EVE is a playground. You can do whatever you want. There are no rides, no lines.
In World of Warcraft, you are strictly limited to following the path Blizzard wants you to follow. You can list the activities a normal player does on one hand.
In EVE, you are free. This cannot be stated enough.
The other big difference is the death penalty. The only thing in which there is any remote freedom in WoW is the PvP, and since there's no death penalty, there's no point in doing it. You don't get loot from kills or anything.
Well said DS, well said.
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Malken
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Posted - 2005.12.10 16:50:00 -
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Originally by: Montague Zooma
There are no elves or orcs in Eve. That should be plenty.
well... Psycarne comes pretty close to a orc and we have been known to mistake Lodhi for a fairy a few times 
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Sid Carrera
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Posted - 2005.12.10 17:03:00 -
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WoW is a desperate race between players to find different dresses that would make them litte better than other players, but in the end everyone is equal in the game and cannot be better than others or make any impact to the gameworld.
Nobody should waste their life's to that game after hitting lvl 60.
Eve is the only game where pvp is rewarding, because you know that people you have killed ingame are really ****ed off usually. Game in which you are allowed to be the ******* you cannot be in real-life. :)
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Aleria Angelis
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Posted - 2005.12.10 17:05:00 -
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Just compare the graphics...
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Rebell
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Posted - 2005.12.10 17:15:00 -
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I think the fact that the MMO clichT creatures that are dragons, elves, orks, gnomes and dwarves do not exist in EVE should be enough of a reason. The whole middle earth theme has been overdone in MMOs; it's time to try something fresh.
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Abavus Durden
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Posted - 2005.12.10 17:16:00 -
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WoW is a mass-market game. In other words, it's "dumbed down" to the lowest common denominator to appeal to our AOL instant satisfaction generation. The average age on WoW seems to be late teens, meaning a playerbase with a lot of 'teh l337 d00dz' in it.
EVE is a niche game. It's designed specifically for one purpopose in life -- agent missions aside, the game is more about social/economic interactions between groups of REAL players. The complexity of these reactions is something that can NEVER be scripted, even by the great coders at Blizzard.
I like the theme park analogy, here's another one: WoW is the summer-blockbuster movie released before a big holiday weekend with much fanfair. EVE is the movie slipped in right before the end of the season that nobody's heard of, yet is the one that steals all the oscars. It's a little more sophisticated and in some ways needs an aquired taste.
Here's another one: WoW is a case of Pabst Blue Ribbon. EVE is a bottle of 20-year old scotch. Both can get you drunk, EVE does it woth more style.
WoW is very good at what it does, but it simply has a different purpose. Not that I wouldn't like to have an ingame auction house in EVE. 
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feiht'd'ero
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Posted - 2005.12.10 17:22:00 -
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Risk v Reward for most pvp's i would imagine
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Sarmea Moon
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Posted - 2005.12.10 17:25:00 -
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Not having to smack around yard trash in order to level up 4TW!!!! Not feeling guilty that you're actually out EXPLORING instead of smacking around yard trash to get some xp PRICELESS!!!
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Kaaii
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Posted - 2005.12.10 17:31:00 -
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Because i said so....
"..Id rather fall beside 10 lions, then stand with One thousand sheep.."
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Dreez
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Posted - 2005.12.10 17:50:00 -
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I played WoW for 6 months, so i guess i got something to say
in this matter.
Pro-EVE Gaming:
You dont need to be online for your character to develope, its
a great game for anyone who likes to play, but cant devote all
freetime beeing online. EVE is a perfect game for ppl with family
to take care of without the fear of slacking behind in skills.
Pro-WoW Gaming:
Dont know what to say here really. Its a game where the most
devoted players ends up winning the race short & simple.
The more you play, the faster your skills develope. EVE used
to have a certain % of increase when using mods & ships, but
they removed it. (dunno why thou).
Pro-EVE PvP:
EVE absolutely rocks in PvP, imo its the only way PvP should
be in an mmorpg game. Your RLtimeinvested ships get blown up
and thereby having an impact on your RL. But the CTDs and HUGE
server issues atm are causing alot of deaths that could¦ve been
avoided.
Pro-WoW PvP:
The PvP in WoW is 100% in the controll of the players. I played
it for 6 months and it had ALOT less bugs then EVE.... ALOT.
Also during those 6 months, i dont belive i crashed as much
as i do in EVE per week. But also, PvP in WoW was pointless.
You killed a dwarf, he resurected. You killed him again, etc etc.
No penaltys in WoW except some loss in equipment durability.
Pro-EVE Devs:
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Pro-WoW Devs:
Any post that had significant proofs of imbalance and reached
a huge number of answers were often/always answered by the Devs.
And changes were made if calculations/proofs were correct.
Pro-EVE New player:
Very hard to make it out there, but if you really put your
mind to it, there¦s no stopping you. The community in EVE is
awesome, and as always, any corporation likes to see lojal,
honest and good players joining their ranks. So new players
should find a corp of their choise asap, it will make EVE better.
Pro-WoW new Player:
WoW is excellent for new players, thats all i can say. Its just
awesome walking around in the world of Azeroth, watching all
details. and if you have a monstercomputer... turn up the graphics
and just adore it.
/sidenote:
With RMR comming soon, and no msg from the Devs that the blasterthron
will be fixed, im going back to WoW for a while to talk the
forests of Azeroth once again , i cant wait.
Having a GM talking about tracking is like having a priest preaching
about sex or a blind man teaching you how to drive.
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Taliac
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Posted - 2005.12.10 18:20:00 -
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Originally by: Aleria Angelis
Just compare the graphics...
Better not.
Wow does look better, but that's just my opinion.
Originally by: Sid Carrera
Nobody should waste their life's to that game after hitting lvl 60.
I never got that far, i think it was lvl 53 when i got bored.
But the first 40 levels were really fun.
One big plus for eve is that it's much more relaxing to play compared to wow.
Untill you warp into a gatecamp 
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Shira d'Radonis
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Posted - 2005.12.10 18:24:00 -
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Edited by: Shira d''Radonis on 10/12/2005 18:25:18
WoW and EVE cannot be compared for one very important reason... they're different genres.
EVE is science fiction/space.
WoW is fantasy/swords & sorcery.
Personally, I've always been a much bigger fan of space movies/space games/space books than I have with fantasy... I like fantasy sometimes, and certain fantasy books/movies I like a lot, but I prefer space.
Other people prefer it the other way around though and so WoW would be more appealing to them.
Edit: But I guess that's coming from the bias of someone who is a roleplayer rather than a "gamer". I think "gamers" care much less about the storyline and more about the challenges of the gameplay. I, personally, am a story-teller and am all about the story.
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Dark Shikari
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Posted - 2005.12.10 18:29:00 -
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Originally by: Dreez
Pro-EVE Devs:
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Pro-WoW Devs:
Any post that had significant proofs of imbalance and reached
a huge number of answers were often/always answered by the Devs.
And changes were made if calculations/proofs were correct.
Are you serious?
Are you saying that the devs in WoW are in any sense better, or even comparable, to the devs in EVE? You are insane, and spoiled, by the quality of developer-player relationship we have here.
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Tonkin
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Posted - 2005.12.10 18:32:00 -
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eve is the best game ever for a good rush
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Gonada
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Posted - 2005.12.10 18:33:00 -
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both games are online, but thats about it as far as trying to compare them
wow is for the masses, those that just entered the online gaming world, and those that are tired of eq, daoc, ac shadowbane, horizons, ect.
if you like short term pleasure, grinding, no consequence pvp, gop play wow
if you want to try something completely differant , then try eve.
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BloodSpoon
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Posted - 2005.12.10 18:34:00 -
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Originally by: Dark Shikari
Edited by: Dark Shikari on 10/12/2005 16:20:00
World of Warcraft is a theme park. You go around, and you hop on rides. You do what the game tells you to do. There is no other options.
EVE is a playground. You can do whatever you want. There are no rides, no lines.
In World of Warcraft, you are strictly limited to following the path Blizzard wants you to follow. You can list the activities a normal player does on one hand.
In EVE, you are free. This cannot be stated enough.
The other big difference is the death penalty. The only thing in which there is any remote freedom in WoW is the PvP, and since there's no death penalty, there's no point in doing it. You don't get loot from kills or anything.
Best description that i've seen, and i've played Both games.....dying in WoW is no fun...dying in eve is a lot of fun.....(killing is more but thats another story)
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Moridin
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Posted - 2005.12.10 20:00:00 -
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Originally by: Dark Shikari
Edited by: Dark Shikari on 10/12/2005 16:20:00
World of Warcraft is a theme park. You go around, and you hop on rides. You do what the game tells you to do. There is no other options.
EVE is a playground. You can do whatever you want. There are no rides, no lines.
In World of Warcraft, you are strictly limited to following the path Blizzard wants you to follow. You can list the activities a normal player does on one hand.
In EVE, you are free. This cannot be stated enough.
The other big difference is the death penalty. The only thing in which there is any remote freedom in WoW is the PvP, and since there's no death penalty, there's no point in doing it. You don't get loot from kills or anything.
i heard this description in the Fanfest 2005. so im guessing Dark shikari was there also.
ok try this. is there or will there be a WOW fanfest? |
BloodSpoon
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Posted - 2005.12.10 20:03:00 -
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who cares.......
but i doubt it
"ooooohh theres nothing wrong with killer robots from venus" |
Dark Shikari
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Posted - 2005.12.10 20:03:00 -
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Originally by: Moridin
Originally by: Dark Shikari
Edited by: Dark Shikari on 10/12/2005 16:20:00
World of Warcraft is a theme park. You go around, and you hop on rides. You do what the game tells you to do. There is no other options.
EVE is a playground. You can do whatever you want. There are no rides, no lines.
In World of Warcraft, you are strictly limited to following the path Blizzard wants you to follow. You can list the activities a normal player does on one hand.
In EVE, you are free. This cannot be stated enough.
The other big difference is the death penalty. The only thing in which there is any remote freedom in WoW is the PvP, and since there's no death penalty, there's no point in doing it. You don't get loot from kills or anything.
i heard this description in the Fanfest 2005. so im guessing Dark shikari was there also.
ok try this. is there or will there be a WOW fanfest?
Nope, wasn't there. The original metaphor in my post is as old as EVE itself. It is truly the philosophy behind EVE. The old CCP website had a few things on it about the purpose of EVE and the ideas behind it.
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Noriath
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Posted - 2005.12.10 20:13:00 -
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Edited by: Noriath on 10/12/2005 20:13:57
Originally by: Exioce
i hear WoW is more PvE based. if your mates are into that rather than PvP they'd prefer WoW.
I think that's not true, other then in Eve you don't have to constantly grind for money to support your PvP activity, so once you have a good character in WoW you can acctually PvP a lot more without ever touching an NPC then in Eve.
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Dark Shikari
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Posted - 2005.12.10 20:16:00 -
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Originally by: Noriath
Edited by: Noriath on 10/12/2005 20:13:57
Originally by: Exioce
i hear WoW is more PvE based. if your mates are into that rather than PvP they'd prefer WoW.
I think that's not true, other then in Eve you don't have to constantly grind for money to support your PvP activity, so once you have a good character in WoW you can acctually PvP a lot more without ever touching an NPC then in Eve.
There is no PvP in World of Warcraft.
World of Warcraft is PvP as much as Counterstrike is PvP.
You are not competing for any reward, as enemies do not drop loot.
You are not competing for territory, as you cannot control territory at all and there is no benefit for doing so if you could.
You are not defeating the enemy in any way except forcing him to respawn.
You are not winning anything except a frag point.
That isn't PvP. Its Counterstrike with Orcs.
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