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Dracvlad
Taishi Combine
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Posted - 2013.07.18 12:54:00 -
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suid0 wrote:Dracvlad wrote:suid0 wrote:Dracvlad wrote:it would not surprise me that PL renters had PL alt accounts AFK cloaky camping them and hot dropping them too. That would be like mugging your wife after she uses an ATM.... pointless and stupid. That is a rather odd thing to call a pubbie renter that is likely to be bad at PvP, they are the ATM and are to be milked as much as they can bear, my suggestion fits in totally with your alliances attitude, wow you need to improve your forum warrioring, its pretty poor. Are you really that illiterate or just trying too hard?
If you say so, I just found your comparison a bit incorrect and correctly defined the renter as a ATM not a wife or partner, does that explain it better? If you do not want LOCAL go to WH space, its as simple as that!-á-á-á-á-á-á-á There are people who think that WH space is like 0.0 but without local, well they should light a cyno and try jumping to it. |

suid0
Habitual Euthanasia Pandemic Legion
27
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Posted - 2013.07.18 13:13:00 -
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Dracvlad wrote:suid0 wrote:Dracvlad wrote:suid0 wrote:Dracvlad wrote:it would not surprise me that PL renters had PL alt accounts AFK cloaky camping them and hot dropping them too. That would be like mugging your wife after she uses an ATM.... pointless and stupid. That is a rather odd thing to call a pubbie renter that is likely to be bad at PvP, they are the ATM and are to be milked as much as they can bear, my suggestion fits in totally with your alliances attitude, wow you need to improve your forum warrioring, its pretty poor. Are you really that illiterate or just trying too hard? If you say so, I just found your comparison a bit incorrect and correctly defined the renter as a ATM not a wife or partner, does that explain it better?
yes that helps
you are both illiterate and trying too hard
thankyou for clearing that up. |

Alsyth
38
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Posted - 2013.07.18 13:15:00 -
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"6. Ships jumping into lowsec cannot jump out until their combat timers have ended."
That's actually a cool idea. CONCORD using the same "magic" that prevents us from using doomsday, bubbles or bombs could prevent capitals from jumping out as long as they have a suspect/criminal flag in lowsec. And regular points working on Motherships would be a very welcome addition too.
Will not hurt smaller entities who can wardec when they want to kill the POS/POCO of their arch-enemy, but would really hurt: - the wealthy alliances who can hotdrop 10 Supercarriers to steal a pos or kill a lone carrier without taking any risk. Being forced to stay on field at least 15 minutes would make them think twice, being tackled by regular ships too. - the hotdroppers who would think twice before sending their remote-repping archon on a fight at a gate/belt
All in all, it would greatly improve lowsec, |

Dracvlad
Taishi Combine
83
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Posted - 2013.07.18 13:22:00 -
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suid0 wrote:Dracvlad wrote:suid0 wrote:Dracvlad wrote:suid0 wrote:
That would be like mugging your wife after she uses an ATM.... pointless and stupid.
That is a rather odd thing to call a pubbie renter that is likely to be bad at PvP, they are the ATM and are to be milked as much as they can bear, my suggestion fits in totally with your alliances attitude, wow you need to improve your forum warrioring, its pretty poor. Are you really that illiterate or just trying too hard? If you say so, I just found your comparison a bit incorrect and correctly defined the renter as a ATM not a wife or partner, does that explain it better? yes that helps you are both illiterate and trying too hard thankyou for clearing that up.
If you a member of the great and all powerful pubbie hating PL are stupid enough to define a renter as a partner then being called an idiot by you I will take as a compliment... If you do not want LOCAL go to WH space, its as simple as that!-á-á-á-á-á-á-á There are people who think that WH space is like 0.0 but without local, well they should light a cyno and try jumping to it. |

suid0
Habitual Euthanasia Pandemic Legion
28
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Posted - 2013.07.18 13:52:00 -
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Dracvlad wrote:
If you a member of the great and all powerful pubbie hating PL are stupid enough to define a renter as a partner then being called an idiot by you I will take as a compliment...
No one defined anyone as anything. It was a comparison of action and outcome. You really are trying way too hard pushing your literal interpretation.
Also take it how you like, still doesn't change the fact.
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Xolve
Sniggerdly Pandemic Legion
1592
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Posted - 2013.07.18 14:22:00 -
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Dracvlad wrote:If you a member of the great and all powerful pubbie hating PL are stupid enough to define a renter as a partner then being called an idiot by you I will take as a compliment...
Another fine example of why you shouldn't mad post. Inappropriate signature removed. Navigator. |

Dracvlad
Taishi Combine
83
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Posted - 2013.07.18 14:30:00 -
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Xolve wrote:Dracvlad wrote:If you a member of the great and all powerful pubbie hating PL are stupid enough to define a renter as a partner then being called an idiot by you I will take as a compliment... Another fine example of why you shouldn't mad post.
Mad, perfectly rational old bean, anyway I thought you were trolling the Marmite thread... If you do not want LOCAL go to WH space, its as simple as that!-á-á-á-á-á-á-á There are people who think that WH space is like 0.0 but without local, well they should light a cyno and try jumping to it. |

gawrshmapooo
Es and Whizz Hedonistic Imperative
12
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Posted - 2013.07.18 15:29:00 -
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OP please either grow some ******* balls and deal with it or biomass.
Buttmad. |

Xolve
Sniggerdly Pandemic Legion
1593
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Posted - 2013.07.18 16:09:00 -
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Dracvlad wrote:Mad, perfectly rational old bean, anyway I thought you were trolling the Marmite thread...
Can you excise some of that rationality and find a comma?
Thanks in advance. Inappropriate signature removed. Navigator. |

Dracvlad
Taishi Combine
83
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Posted - 2013.07.18 16:12:00 -
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Xolve wrote:Dracvlad wrote:Mad, perfectly rational old bean, anyway I thought you were trolling the Marmite thread... Can you excise some of that rationality and find a comma? Thanks in advance.
Ooooh now you are a grammer ****! If you do not want LOCAL go to WH space, its as simple as that!-á-á-á-á-á-á-á There are people who think that WH space is like 0.0 but without local, well they should light a cyno and try jumping to it. |
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Xolve
Sniggerdly Pandemic Legion
1593
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Posted - 2013.07.18 16:26:00 -
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Dracvlad wrote:Ooooh now you are a grammer ****!
Not at all, just commenting that the line I originally was criticizing made absolutely zero sense.
You should work on that. Inappropriate signature removed. Navigator. |

Dracvlad
Taishi Combine
83
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Posted - 2013.07.18 18:42:00 -
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Xolve wrote:Dracvlad wrote:Ooooh now you are a grammer ****! Not at all, just commenting that the line I originally was criticizing made absolutely zero sense. You should work on that.
"If you a member of the great and all powerful pubbie hating PL are stupid enough to define a renter as a partner then being called an idiot by you I will take as a compliment..."
I deliberately wrote it like that as a breathless statement, that is rather amusing that you think to mention the lack of comments, it was deliberate. If you do not want LOCAL go to WH space, its as simple as that!-á-á-á-á-á-á-á There are people who think that WH space is like 0.0 but without local, well they should light a cyno and try jumping to it. |

Swiftstrike1
Interfector INC. Fade 2 Black
105
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Posted - 2013.07.18 18:45:00 -
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I approve of making supercapitals vulnerable to normal points, but perhaps give them a role bonus of +25 warp strength to compensate? I have lots of ideas. -áThey're not always well thought through, but they are always well intentioned. -á |

Grace Ishukone
Ishukone Advanced Research
27
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Posted - 2013.07.18 23:39:00 -
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Dirk Action wrote:was the PM with Kat a troll too? that looked like pretty real crying and whining to me :iiam:
You are so delightful, assuming that I am someone else to justify everything. Assumptions will get you killed, because you make an ass of yourself. Serach me, search my comments. Go read that thread of mine about mining ships - and then reflect that CCP made major changes to mining ship design partly as a result of that campaign. Led by me. Make no mistake - you play your pvp games, but I play players vs devs. So the more you attack me personally, the more you tell me to quit, the more certain it is that you are pushing CCP to change the current design - because ultimately CCP do not *want* players to quit. Nor do I - the more players in this game, and more playstyles and play preferences this game caters for, the stronger the income to CCP, the greater the potential to develop improvements in *every* area of the game.
Oh, and while we are on the topic, given Pandemic Legion are clearly bored silly despite their participation in nullsec warts, everyone who plays in lowsec / near null should find the nearest few PL POS near to them, and blow them up. Why? Well it's our duty - if a pvp alliance is bored, and think the game mechanics are perfect the way they are, then let us do to them what they do to newbies, and see how they feel about that.
Indeed I would have thought Goonswarm with their numbers would be the masters of asymmetric warfare. wouldn't it make life interesting if they killed every N3 and PL lowsec POS in the next couple days? Let's face it, the nearest most players in this game get to capital vs capital (tank) warfare is reading EVE24. Death by swarms of ants?  |

Grace Ishukone
Ishukone Advanced Research
27
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Posted - 2013.07.18 23:41:00 -
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Swiftstrike1 wrote:I approve of making supercapitals vulnerable to normal points, but perhaps give them a role bonus of +25 warp strength to compensate?
Very good idea, and yes, totally appropriate that it should need a *lot* of regular points to achieve that. Bravo Sir! |

Grace Ishukone
Ishukone Advanced Research
27
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Posted - 2013.07.18 23:48:00 -
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Alsyth wrote:"6. Ships jumping into lowsec cannot jump out until their combat timers have ended."
That's actually a cool idea. CONCORD using the same "magic" that prevents us from using doomsday, bubbles or bombs could prevent capitals from jumping out as long as they have a suspect/criminal flag in lowsec. And regular points working on Motherships would be a very welcome addition too.
Will not hurt smaller entities who can wardec when they want to kill the POS/POCO of their arch-enemy, but would really hurt: - the wealthy alliances who can hotdrop 10 Supercarriers to steal a pos or kill a lone carrier without taking any risk. Being forced to stay on field at least 15 minutes would make them think twice, being tackled by regular ships too. - the hotdroppers who would think twice before sending their remote-repping archon on a fight at a gate/belt
All in all, it would greatly improve lowsec,
Thank you for your clearly well considered feedback on the actual topic!  |

Xolve
Sniggerdly Pandemic Legion
1593
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Posted - 2013.07.19 00:05:00 -
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Grace Ishukone wrote:Pandemic Legion are clearly bored silly despite their participation in nullsec warts
uwot m8? Inappropriate signature removed. Navigator. |

Dirk Action
Sniggerdly Pandemic Legion
118
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Posted - 2013.07.19 00:49:00 -
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Grace Ishukone wrote:Dirk Action wrote:was the PM with Kat a troll too? that looked like pretty real crying and whining to me :iiam: You are so delightful, assuming that I am someone else to justify everything.
you going on about being "betrayed' by PL (let's face it; pay your rent money on time and you won't have to get evicted~) and crying about the same thing in the private conversation with Kat Aclysm is pretty much a dead giveaway, sorry |

Heavy Met4l Queen
Dark Corner Projects
37
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Posted - 2013.07.19 04:41:00 -
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And on a day of POS bashing and killmails, much butthurt was to be found. And the tears were plentiful, and the harvest of them great; and there was much rejoicing... I hate therefore i am... |

Emrys Ap'Morgravaine
Minmatar Ship Construction Services Ushra'Khan
59
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Posted - 2013.07.19 04:44:00 -
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It's rare that I find the will to read beyond the first page in most threads on these forums, but I'm glad I did. Thanks all, I've not been so heartily entertained in weeks.
To the OP - Eve is PvP in all aspects, Player vs Player - that does NOT inherently mean shooting and blowing up of ships.
To PL - GG :)
Em. |
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Kat Ayclism
Habitual Euthanasia Pandemic Legion
11
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Posted - 2013.07.19 04:48:00 -
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Heavy Met4l Queen wrote:And on a day of POS bashing and killmails, much butthurt was to be found. And the tears were plentiful, and the harvest of them great; and there was much rejoicing... 1 Free moon = 1 Bil per month Tear-filled pm while doing green boxes = 1 boring hour Resulting tear thread and frantic denial of being the same person despite crying about all the same things = priceless |

Heavy Met4l Queen
Dark Corner Projects
41
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Posted - 2013.07.19 04:56:00 -
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Kat Ayclism wrote:Heavy Met4l Queen wrote:And on a day of POS bashing and killmails, much butthurt was to be found. And the tears were plentiful, and the harvest of them great; and there was much rejoicing... 1 Free moon = 1 Bil per month Tear-filled pm while doing green boxes = 1 boring hour Resulting tear thread and frantic denial of being the same person despite crying about all the same things = priceless
Makes it all worth the effort doesn't it? I hate therefore i am... |

Xolve
Sniggerdly Pandemic Legion
1593
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Posted - 2013.07.19 05:05:00 -
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Kat Ayclism wrote:1 Free moon = 1 Bil per month Tear-filled pm while doing green boxes = 1 boring hour Resulting tear thread and frantic denial of being the same person despite crying about all the same things = priceless
:a2m:? Inappropriate signature removed. Navigator. |

Ktorn Sinus
ElitistOps Pandemic Legion
5
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Posted - 2013.07.19 05:28:00 -
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[ 2013.07.17 12:35:23 ] Lady Flute > I *like* mining [ 2013.07.17 12:35:33 ] Lady Flute > we used to love mining to keep the indy level over 3 [ 2013.07.17 12:35:41 ] Lady Flute > that is the gameplay you guys killed [ 2013.07.17 12:35:46 ] Lady Flute > we mined enough for a carrier a month [ 2013.07.17 12:35:53 ] Lady Flute > even with pvp attacks [ 2013.07.17 12:36:07 ] Lady Flute > but PL betrayed us, we had to quit nullsec [ 2013.07.17 12:36:29 ] Lady Flute > so now ... most of us play WoW, battlefield 3, or world of tanks [ 2013.07.17 12:36:33 ] Lady Flute > I **** you not. |

Ganthrithor
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
557
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Posted - 2013.07.19 06:02:00 -
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Grace Ishukone wrote: 3. Carriers and Dreads in LOWSEC can be warp jammed by anything.
Halp, I'm tackled by a planet!
You know that the lowliest, meta-1 warp disruptor will prevent capships from warping, right? Even in LOWSEC! |

Ganthrithor
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
558
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Posted - 2013.07.19 06:09:00 -
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Also, thread gets better and better with each page. Thanks, PL <3 |

Valleria Darkmoon
Heretic Army Heretic Initiative
122
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Posted - 2013.07.19 06:32:00 -
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PL kills our POS all the time...I think it's why we have one, so PL doesn't get too bored when they come round.
Sure there's nothing we can really do about it. We're a small time low sec operation and have no interest in joining the blob fest, the price we pay for this is not having nice towers.
As for not being able to do anything while there are supers around PL used to warp Nyxes to my frigate fights at top belt. By the time that fat ass aligns and warps in the fight is over, I've looted the wreck and I'm there to fire one volley at it on the off chance it dies later without a session change. Even if it does kill my Incursus, how many tears do you think I'm going to shed over it? Also there's several jump gates in Amamake. They're a big hurdle for a Nyx. But unless they are willing to park supers at every celestial in system they are very easy to avoid and if they were to do it just leave system. The trail of cyno alts required to follow you system to system could be considered a victory in itself if they do actually follow you around all night.
I started into PvP with 4 million SP and that was back when you had to spend the first 30 days minimum on learning skills, so it's not like PvP is impossible with low SP, but are you going to take out PL with 4 or 5 guys with 4 million SP, NO! Are you going to beat down PL with 4 or 5 guys with 90 million SP each, again, the answer is NO!
I think you still need to learn that (nearly) anything is permitted here and the sooner you understand the full scope of what that implies the better that lack of understanding will always hold you back until you fully understand. |

Valleria Darkmoon
Heretic Army Heretic Initiative
122
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Posted - 2013.07.19 07:25:00 -
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I've read more of this topic now and you mention several times that EVE is a failure as a commercial product.
With one notable and tragic exception the customer base has continuously expanded since I started playing in 2007. I base this on the average number of logins i used to see in 2007 compared with now. The retention of those who last more than a few months is also high, as I looked up a loss mail from 2008 that had 37 people on the mail and of that 30 had updated portraits which means they've played in at least the last two years (can't remember exactly when the avatars changed).
The fact that EVE is still going after 10 years in an era where telling an investor that you want to make an MMO will immediately require you to talk them down off their window ledge speaks volumes. Most MMOs are dead or dying or switching to free-to-play (or two of three, you can't be simultaneously dead and dying) inside of a year. A lot of this probably has to do with the fact that EVE occupies a niche in the gaming community that as far as I am aware is not filled by anyone else but that is irrelevant. Who else has a brutal, cut-throat sandbox with a storyline almost completely dictated by the players all taking place in space where you can practically watch another version of human history unfold at high speed. No one as far as I know.
Yes, EVE loses a lot of subscriptions but this is likely due to design as with the way the game is made I don't think it could support having 11 million subscriptions without fracturing the servers and a big part of the goal here was to have everyone on a single server. Commercial success is all a matter of meeting your targets and as CCP soldiers on with an ever expanding subscriber base and meeting their game design targets it can not be labelled a failure. The reality is that EVE is harsh, most are weeded out quickly and many do not make the cut. If that is you be glad it didn't take you too too long to find that out. |

RubyPorto
SniggWaffe YOUR VOTES DON'T COUNT
3695
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Posted - 2013.07.19 07:31:00 -
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Valleria Darkmoon wrote:I've read more of this topic now and you mention several times that EVE is a failure as a commercial product.
With one notable and tragic exception the customer base has continuously expanded since I started playing in 2007. I base this on the average number of logins i used to see in 2007 compared with now. The retention of those who last more than a few months is also high, as I looked up a loss mail from 2008 that had 37 people on the mail and of that 30 had updated portraits which means they've played in at least the last two years (can't remember exactly when the avatars changed).
The fact that EVE is still going after 10 years in an era where telling an investor that you want to make an MMO will immediately require you to talk them down off their window ledge speaks volumes. Most MMOs are dead or dying or switching to free-to-play (or two of three, you can't be simultaneously dead and dying) inside of a year. A lot of this probably has to do with the fact that EVE occupies a niche in the gaming community that as far as I am aware is not filled by anyone else but that is irrelevant. Who else has a brutal, cut-throat sandbox with a storyline almost completely dictated by the players all taking place in space where you can practically watch another version of human history unfold at high speed. No one as far as I know.
Yes, EVE loses a lot of subscriptions but this is likely due to design as with the way the game is made I don't think it could support having 11 million subscriptions without fracturing the servers and a big part of the goal here was to have everyone on a single server. Commercial success is all a matter of meeting your targets and as CCP soldiers on with an ever expanding subscriber base and meeting their game design targets it can not be labelled a failure. The reality is that EVE is harsh, most are weeded out quickly and many do not make the cut. If that is you be glad it didn't take you too too long to find that out.
WoW is the only Subscription MMO on the market that I know of that has more Subscriptions than EVE does at the moment. SWOTOR (even being F2P), dropped below 500k making the range from 500k to 9 million (WoW) wide open.
Just for comparison's sake. This is EVE - Everybody Versus Everybody.
"the risk of having your day ruined by other people is the cornerstone with which EVE was built and we want to keep that (infact, this is much more representative of the consensus opinion within CCP)." -CCP Solomon |

Ktorn Sinus
ElitistOps Pandemic Legion
5
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Posted - 2013.07.19 10:57:00 -
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Grace Ishukone wrote:Teckos Pech wrote:Yes, and is a hardcore PvP game. GTFO.  Darkfall : Unholy Wars is more of a hardcore PvP game than EVE Online is now. So don't use words like "hardcore pvp" when EVE has non-PVP zones now, you can't evade or kill concord any more, and most of the players in most of the game space are NOT pvping. EVE Online is a space mining, industry and trading game that *occasionally* has pvp. Don't pretend otherwise, because it is simply not true. If you want a real pvp game, go get one. I say this in the full knowledge that I love mining and making things :)
why are you talking about pvp when you never pvped?
wait, you actually did, 3 times, right?
n++[ 2013.07.17 12:18:19 ] Lady Flute > I haven't pvped mroe than 3 times in 7 years
also, i think i'm gonna waste my time and follow you and your m8s wherever you go and whatever you do to make ur lifes miserable until you quit forever.
THAT'S MY NEW MISSION.
THAT'S HOW I ENJOY EVE ONLINE. |
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