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Brannor McThife
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Posted - 2005.12.13 06:55:00 -
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Last night, I made the "unfortunate" choice to buy 2 strip miners in Aunenen, without checking why the system name rang a bell. Of course, the two strip miners were being sold by S******dly [SNIGG].
It was easy getting in, but they seem to have the Nonni gate permanently camped now. That takes dedication... I mean, this morning they were able to get 16 ships in an hour...which was not too bad.
They had 2 Ravens, 3 Megas, 2 Tempests and a Scorpion and deimos. Pretty much full on Sniping. Most of them had < -8.0, so it was quite clear they had been doing this a while.
I got stuck there last night, and figured I'd leave this morning, but the camp this morning was bigger than last night, and it's the only way to Nonni...unless you do what I did...
Head west to Orvolle - 13 jumps, of which half are through lowsec (where I saw a whole 4 other people), and then 13/14 jumps from there back to Jita.
A pain, but it shows that you can avoid rats if you want. Also, some of them were polite, and I had some fun chatting to them...others were quite obviously kids amd just wanted to smacktalk.
They are rats, make no mistake, and they will gank and pod anyone they want. The only problem is, is that they can snipe with impunity.
-G
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Malken
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Posted - 2005.12.13 07:03:00 -
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 Originally by: HippoKing
griefing is killing for no profit
pirating is killing for profit
blasting rookie ships (that aren't blatantly spies) would be griefing. picking on a ship that might drop good stuff is piracy
i actually looted 20 BPC's and a couple of BPO's from a n00b ship.
a friend of mine looted a hold full of zydrine from another.
any ship with a cargo hold that can hold anything worth isk is a possible target.
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Drazys
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Posted - 2005.12.13 08:02:00 -
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Killing people at Unsec without warning is part of game ? Fine, I understand that and have no trouble with that at all. However, there are a few related things I do have trouble with:
- All the whining about need to force other players to Unsec "for sake of gameplay balance"... I guess speaking about "gameplay balance" sounds better than saying "CCP must force more people to come to Unsec to be ganked".
- People killing pods "because it is fun" and similar, and then saying that it is "too easy ISK" that keeps players in Empire space. To borrow a common saying at these forums... If and when pirates make some people avoid Unsec, pirates shouldn't whine to CCP but just adapt to the situation.
- The sadly hilarious double morality: Apparently avoiding situations where one could lose ship to PvP makes one a "f-ing cowardly carebear", but destroying a few newbie ships and then avoiding situations where one could lose ship to PvP makes one a "pirate who just uses tactics".
Apologies for the rant but I've seen too much of the above-described attitude to be able to remain quiet.
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Longasc
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Posted - 2005.12.13 08:36:00 -
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They all kill for fun.
Neither is out for fair play.
This is why I do not like PvP that much. It is basically my setup being superior than his, me being stronger in equipment and skills, not based so much on my personal skills.
Fleet battle? Numbers > skill
In the end, you have your fun at the cost of the others ship and implants.
While I am not in general against piracy and PvP (!), people should open their eyes and forget about fair PvP, honor among pirates and stuff like that.
Still, even among pirates there can be differences, some are just scum. 
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Longasc
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Posted - 2005.12.13 08:37:00 -
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BTW, thumbs up, Drazys.
I also cannot stand this attitude.
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Lygos
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Posted - 2005.12.13 09:18:00 -
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If there be any such thing as "griefer," then in an environment of fiction, I would have to say it is the person who does not help anyone else walk away with a good story.
In one sense, we are all guilty of this. In another, this "unaccountableness" is impossible to achieve. Everyone may, afterall, only be observed to be serving his own highest Good and grandest narrative.
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kopite
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Posted - 2005.12.13 10:08:00 -
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Meh i havent complained about being popped since i had the old shuttle routine as a noob. I was like wtf he kill me for etc etc. Toon had been in game about 2 weeks and was taking a taxi to go get some skillbooks.
Rather than ***** and moan (well actually i may have *****ed and moaned a little in private) i convoed the guy asking why killing shuttles was worth his effort, got my explanation about Mega/Zyd/BPO's etc and we parted ways. Pretty civilised and this noob learnt never to haul expensive stuff in a shuttle without it costing any more than the cost of the shuttle itself. Cant remember the guys name as was way back when but he was polite in return to me being polite, i'd say i gained more from that experience than i lost due to that.
Eve is not about consentual pvp. Its about being clever and lucky enough to avoid it if you dont want it. Risk vs reward is such a common reply around here but only becasue its one of the truths of the game.
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Arti K
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Posted - 2005.12.13 10:41:00 -
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Kill or be killed, it is the only way. 
Do hunters contact their prey beforehand and ask for monetary contribution?
Do they tell them when they're about to attack?
Nope. Grow a pair and start shooting like the rest of us.
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Snake Jankins
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Posted - 2005.12.13 10:49:00 -
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Originally by: Brannor McThife
They are rats, make no mistake, and they will gank and pod anyone they want. The only problem is, is that they can snipe with impunity.
RMR will change that a bit.
1) afaik sensor-boosters recieve a stacking penalty
2) ships receive more hp and resistances.
3) the new interdictor ships. I have no clue how they work exactly, but if you can scramble a bunch of ships with them it at once with high scramble strength, then it becomes more dangerous for campers.
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Dark Shikari
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Posted - 2005.12.13 10:53:00 -
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Originally by: Snake Jankins
Originally by: Brannor McThife
They are rats, make no mistake, and they will gank and pod anyone they want. The only problem is, is that they can snipe with impunity.
RMR will change that a bit.
1) afaik sensor-boosters recieve a stacking penalty
Already have them, I believe.
Sniping is actually quite dangerous. A covert ops and a thorax can easily take out any sniping battleship.
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gfldex
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Posted - 2005.12.13 11:08:00 -
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Originally by: Scrammer
... griefer ...
If you fly in the realm of the grim men you will die. And as the realm of grim men is space you have to stay docked if you want to be safe.
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$ perl -n -e 'print "Stop blameing pirates! Oveur is the root of all evil!\n" if m/podkill|lost my ship|gank|gate camp|Verone/;'
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