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Aurora Jane Grey
Industrial Independent Universal
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Posted - 2013.07.18 06:47:00 -
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So, after biting my nails about it (I get nervous about weird things), checking forums for answers, soul-searching, etc etc, I've decided to ask the question:
How did you find your place in EVE?
I would love to fall for this game. It's beautifully designed, it seems it's got a lot going for it and a lot coming (VERY excited about the potential changes to combat, myself), a devoted team and fanbase, and I typically love the hell out of sandboxes.
But in EVE, I've had problems finding a reason.
So I went Gallente. I can't help it - I'm always at least partly in character due to some fun issues (...I'll come out and say it, and hope that I get more than trolls here - I have a gender identity issue I've faced for a long, long time. Long story short, Aurora Jane Grey became more real to me than me over a period of time, and so the time I'm logged on as her is the only time I get to take off the mask and be myself) that I've got.
And Gallente just.. fits her. At least, as far as a start goes.
I put in the cash for my three months subscription, saying "I'll do it this time, I've wanted to play this game for forever and I can do it." Sold a plex just for the sake of having a bit of spending money so I have less "ARGH" and more "Woo!"
Tried missions, messed a little bit with creating a corporation (just because it was on my list to do it, really - I know, I know, that's stupid. I can dream, can't I?), dabbled in weaponry and different ship types and skills, messed with Planetary Interaction, did missions, blew the living -hell- out of some badguys and goodguys both, got my ass handed to me a good couple of times and learned from the mistakes, spent time reading a book while I mined, nervously dodged pirates and lawmen alike in low-sec space (though I've not gone below 0), traded both legal and illicit materials...
...and I still have a hard time logging on.
So my question is the same: how did you find your place in EVE? Your niche, as it were - the thing that keeps the game enjoyable and fun for you. I'm looking for different ways to experiment.
I've never been much for guilds, but if a Corporation could be enjoyable for me then it could be enjoyable for me and there's no point in fighting that.
If it helps you, the last name "Grey" was chosen not as a pornstar name (what is up with that? people keep asking me about a pornstar or other) but as the area between black and white, good and evil, yadda yadda.
It's always how I've played to see the good and the bad in everyone and everything. When things are black and white, I'm bored to tears.
I've always played a mercenary-trader mix, I run a village (should say -ran-, as I'm officially bored of it) in Wurm Online and took care of our relations, needs, buys and sells along with the task of teaching newbies that come by and join us so that they can enjoy the game and find what they like about it or don't...
I guess I'm just still a good bit used to feeling like there's something awesome to achieve - rare version of cool new gadgets to show off, or a memory of a good fight that I lost. Used to those scars and boons that you're so proud to have worked your butt off for. And I've always been a bit of a roleplayer, without going so far as to do scheduled events (ew) and such.
This has already gone three times as long as I meant it, so that's all for now.
Any help is more than welcome - and thanks to everyone that doesn't just say "tl;dr" although I can definitely understand that.
~Auri |
Jorden Ishonen
Kinetic Technologies
66
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Posted - 2013.07.18 06:52:00 -
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What is it with people and giving you waaaay more info than you need to know about them in their first ten sentences to you?
Anyways, I found what I like doing just by finding that you could make a killing off trading alone. I also have industry and PvP chars. You find what you like in this game by going out and doing it. |
Liafcipe9000
Smeghead Empire
8549
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Posted - 2013.07.18 06:53:00 -
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Jorden Ishonen wrote:You find what you like in this game by going out and doing it.
this.
Thread concluded, move along.
You may gain the knowledge, but you will lose your belief, with all its mystery and comfort. If there was proof, absolute and certain, there is an afterlife, why not quit this life, and be done with it?
Ponder about these things all your life, and you're a philosopher. Compress these ponderings into a couple of pages, and you'll go mad. |
Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
15583
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Posted - 2013.07.18 06:53:00 -
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Aurora Jane Grey wrote:How did you find your place in EVE? Unhelpfully enough: by discovering that the game did not provide me with a reason so I had to find my own. This meant I could do whatever the hell I enjoyed at any given moment, and the game would never get in my way.
GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥
Get a good start: newbie skill plan 2.0. |
Xen Solarus
Inner 5phere
480
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Posted - 2013.07.18 07:03:00 -
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There are so many aspects of this game that i think it's important to find the one that suits you the most. Personally, i was drawn to EvE by the concept of owning space. It took me a long time traveling up EvE's steep learning curve to realise that this was nigh on impossible for a small group of individuals. So, like you i guess, i bounced around the various activities, from mission runner, trader, inventer and producer, ending up in nullsec camping gates under the orders of ineffective FC's and chain ratting for hours on end.
Ultimately for me it came back to the idea of having my own little corner to call my own, which i finally achieved with wormhole space. So, i think once you've made the long journey of experience in this epic game, it's more than possible to discover and earn whatever it is that gives you enjoyment.
That being said, EvE can be a bit like a job sometimes, especially if you decide to take more and more responsibilities. Personally i find if you are getting to the point where you are finding it difficult to find a reason to log in, then it's probably the time to take a short break from the game. You'll likely come back refreshed and eager to continue enjoying the epicness that is EvE. 
Post with your main, like a BOSS! |
Benny Ohu
Chaotic Tranquility
Casoff
1222
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Posted - 2013.07.18 07:03:00 -
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yeah my house got painted in Pornstar Grey by mistake and now all the neighbors keep giving me looks
Joining a corp is really the best thing. You form an identity with your corpmates and you feel you're working towards something. I don't really have a better way of putting it than that, just that playing alongside others just makes everything more enjoyable. I don't log on every day, and most of my time logged on is AFK, but I enjoy flying around with Casoff, mucking about in lowsec, and occasionally bothering to undock to make some ISK or zoom about Faction War space in a frigate
It sounds like you've never been part of a fleet? Join RvB and have a time? |
Snexwang Wnaganan
Indie Capsuleer Incorporated
11
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Posted - 2013.07.18 07:04:00 -
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You seem to enjoy writing about yourself. Keep playing and write a blog about it. Problem solved. |
Aurora Jane Grey
Industrial Independent Universal
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Posted - 2013.07.18 07:09:00 -
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Snexwang Wnaganan wrote:You seem to enjoy writing about yourself. Keep playing and write a blog about it. Problem solved.
Haha, it's more of a nervous thing.
I have silly, stupid fears of being open with people, so I feel I have to explain everything about whatever situation just so that people won't misunderstand me - people oddly tend to be very hostile toward me, regardless of what I'm doing. (something about me draws total douches my way)
But thanks to everyone so far for the responses. I'll definitely look into joining a fleet and such.
If anyone knows of a roleplayer-friendly Corporation that also joins in on wars and such, I'm sure I'd be all over that.
~Auri |
Alpheias
Euphoria Released
Verge of Collapse
2253
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Posted - 2013.07.18 08:20:00 -
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Well, being terrible at PvP, they asked me if I could sit cloaked in a Falcon and jam the snot out of potential targets being called out. I enjoyed it so much that I also trained up several Falcon alts. 
Allow me to be frank. You will not like me. You will not like me now, and you will not like men++ a good deal less as we go on. |
Grunanca
Sickology
10
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Posted - 2013.07.18 08:27:00 -
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EVE is boring as hell solo, and thats why you cant find your place. Find a good corp, and even mining can be enjoyable! (Atleast for a few minutes). Nah, seriously, its an MMO, play it like one and you will find your addiction. |
Thorn Galen
Bene Gesserit ChapterHouse
Sanctuary Pact
1236
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Posted - 2013.07.18 08:31:00 -
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Aurora Jane Grey wrote:
Haha, it's more of a nervous thing.
I have silly, stupid fears of being open with people, so I feel I have to explain everything about whatever situation just so that people won't misunderstand me - people oddly tend to be very hostile toward me, regardless of what I'm doing. (something about me draws total douches my way)
But thanks to everyone so far for the responses. I'll definitely look into joining a fleet and such.
If anyone knows of a roleplayer-friendly Corporation that also joins in on wars and such, I'm sure I'd be all over that.
~Auri
Set your CSPA charges to 0 and mail me in game.
o7
Personnel Division Director - Bene Gesserit Chapterhouse
CEO Sanctuary Pact Alliance --áSanctuary Pact |
Infinity Ziona
Cloakers
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Posted - 2013.07.18 08:51:00 -
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After getting to know the playerbase I felt compelled to make as many of them as unhappy as I could with war declarations. When not actively playing I found being logged on cloaked or in station whenever I wasnt trying to kill their newbs and new recruits made me feel happy and content. Thus did I find my place, my niche and forte. |
Infinity Ziona
Cloakers
178
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Posted - 2013.07.18 08:52:00 -
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Infinity Ziona wrote:After getting to know the playerbase I felt compelled to make as many of them as unhappy as I could with solo war declarations. When not actively playing I found being logged on cloaked or in station whenever I wasnt trying to kill their newbs and new recruits made me feel happy and content. Thus did I find my place, my niche and forte.
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Feer Truelight
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Posted - 2013.07.18 09:14:00 -
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Maybe try wormhole space/community?
Nothing is black&white there and the backstabbing is very enjoyable 
EVE Online Fraud Prevention - http://eve-fraud.blogspot.com |
Jill Xelitras
Xeltec services
Russian International Allegiance
139
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Posted - 2013.07.18 09:53:00 -
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Alpheias wrote:Well, being terrible at PvP, they asked me if I could sit cloaked in a Falcon and jam the snot out of potential targets being called out. I enjoyed it so much that I also trained up several Falcon alts.
Hehe, same here ... just with logistics.
Join the in-game channel 'The Greater Fool Bar' now.
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Silvetica Dian
Manson Family
The Retirement Club
30
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Posted - 2013.07.18 11:13:00 -
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There are many paths you can take in EvE and the one(s) that suit you will be based on personality.
IMO most of the realy good stuff comes from strong communities. Most of the high sec corps have little to no community. If you take the trouble to look though you will find several thriving communities.
Most if not all null sec corps/alliances will have a strong community just from fighting alongside each other every day and the constant use of voice coms.
I would think most low sec pirate communites would be similar if not more close knit.
I know both the minerbumping guys and the awoxing crowd have very strong community ties.
There are i am sure many many others i haven't discovered yet.
Anyway my point is find a community and join it. Most of the people in it will be experienced in either mining/ exploration/wh's/ manufacturing/PI etc. you can do your favoured activities get helpful advice/make friends and possibly get introduced to new aspects of the game just from joining the right group.
Anyway do some research join some public chat channels for groups you want to know more about. Meet some people and see where it takes you. |
Aurora Jane Grey
The Scope
Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2013.07.21 00:14:00 -
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Thank you very much to everyone for the responses. It helps to know that I'm not alone in all that, so. That alone is useful to me, let alone the advice.
Fly safe (why the hell do we say that? nothing is safe), hah. I'll stick to it and see y'all around, I'm sure :P |
Seven Koskanaiken
EVE Corporation 987654321-POP
The Marmite Collective
280
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Posted - 2013.07.21 00:43:00 -
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The more I played the game the more I realised there is only one game in eve that can be reallly be described as fun, and one reason to continue playing, and although it can take many forms and can be done any vastly different scales, the principle is the same; greifing bitches and getting tears. |
Verunae Caseti
Viziam
Amarr Empire
145
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Posted - 2013.07.21 00:48:00 -
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Foolproof algorithm for fun-finding in any game.
- Are there activities you haven't tried?
- If yes {
- Pick a new activity.
- Try it.
- Was it fun?
- If yes {
- -Go to 4.
- }
- If no {
- -Go to 1.
- }
- }
- If no, pick a new game to play.
- Go to 1.
In other words, try things until you find something you like.
No offense but you probably learned this on the playground when you were 3 and this post seems like more of an excuse to ramble on about your gender and personal identity issues.
Consider therapy IRL. |
NightCrawler 85
Phoibe Enterprises
908
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Posted - 2013.07.21 03:46:00 -
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There is also a very similar thread here which might give you more ideas 
Phoibe Enterprises official recruitment thread
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baltec1
Bat Country
7310
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Posted - 2013.07.21 05:07:00 -
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I chose to try to master a single ship. |
ShahFluffers
Ice Fire Warriors
Late Night Alliance
2911
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Posted - 2013.07.21 05:16:00 -
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Get drunk (or do something that puts you in an altered state). Do the first thing that comes to mind.
Alternatively... get drunk (or do something that puts you in an altered state) and talk to everyone you see (especially in low-sec). Ask that you join them and ride on their coattails for however long you can.
Change isn't bad, but it isn't always good. Sometimes, the oldest and most simple of things can be the most elegant and effective. |
Doc Severide
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
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Posted - 2013.07.21 12:05:00 -
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Verunae Caseti wrote:No offense but you probably learned this on the playground when you were 3 and this post seems like more of an excuse to ramble on about your gender and personal identity issues.
Consider therapy IRL.
I tried therapy once. The therapist told me to ramble on about my gender and personal identity issues...
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Xavier Higdon
Breakwater Holding Inc.
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Posted - 2013.07.21 12:46:00 -
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Well you seem to handle trolls quite well, so what ever you do in EvE will be easier for you than for some others. The best advice is to find a good corporation that uses voip all the time. EvE is a great game that gets even better when you have people to talk to about it. I personally have been enjoying the industry side of things, so I found a small corp that focuses on that. We mine, some run missions, others manufacture. We've got a POS set up with a second on its way and we've been looking into PI. We work together toward common goals. That is the heart of a good MMO, and EvE is a great MMO. |
Rellik B00n
Lethal Death Squad
280
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Posted - 2013.07.21 15:42:00 -
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.............
anyway. Find a corp, pay for EvE with RL cash.
Ive worked solo for the last several years and I barely log in anymore. I spent more time actively playing them game when I had other people around - they will become your motivation and provided you with additional opportunities you couldn't get yourself.
also: do combat. It should always be your aim to be involved in conflict.
Of a request for change ask: Who Benefits? |
Rhivre
TarNec
Invisible Exchequer
338
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Posted - 2013.07.21 16:39:00 -
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It took me quite a while to find what I do now, and involved a lot of overdoing too many ideas at once and burning out a few times, but now I have found something which I really enjoy doing, and is as intensive or not as I want it to be.
I tried PvE, PvP, Mining before I found trading, and then I tried a ton of different ways of trading, some more successful than others, but all too intensive. I tried manufacturing a few times, and couldnt really get into it.
Then, out of nowhere I got into a different style of trading and manufacturing, and it suddenly clicked, and I had found my niche in Eve. |
Pohbis
Neo T.E.C.H.
331
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Posted - 2013.07.21 16:59:00 -
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Do a little bit of everything.
Run missions, mine, produce, trade, explore, do PI, enroll in faction warfare etc.
Most mechanics in EVE are the same, no matter if you have lvl 1 or lvl 5 skills. So it's pretty fast and easy to figure out if any of the CCP provided gameplay fits your playing style.
However, even if you find something, there's a good chance you'll grow bored of it eventually.
Most people "enhance" their gameplay in various ways; be it doing spreadsheets for industrialists, EFTing for the min-max'ers or just joining a corporation to play with others and achieve things you can't on your own.
For me, running a POS in a wormhole has been the closest I've come to a niche. Gas harvesting, mining, ratting, small-scale production and the occasional 1v1 PvP. Only reason I stopped was that I go inactive for a few months each year and moving out and in got tiresome, and harder and harder as even the C1-2 grew crowded.
TL:DR GÇô Keep at it, do whatever you feel like when you log on. Put the game away for some time if you don't feel like it, come back and repeat. Most people don't as much figure out their niche, as they stumble upon it eventually. And then, you're hooked :D |
Gaellia Bonaventure
Royal Amarr Institute
Amarr Empire
1356
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Posted - 2013.07.21 17:01:00 -
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I think this aspect of the game can be overwhelming to some players. They are used to MMOs being a theme park where you are forced to stick to the main storyline. Not saying OP is one of those, but I've seen it expressed on the forums before.
This doesn't exist in Eve, of course, and for some people that's disconcerting at first. But look at it this way. What do you like to do in other MMOs? Craft? PvP? Market? You can find some aspect in this game which you enjoy in other games if you but look around a little.
In EVE the universe really is your oyster. It just takes a little more work to crack the oyster open and get the pearl. Just remember to look over your shoulder.
Fly...er, I mean, click safe! 
Bring your possibles. |
Nikodiemus
Jokulhlaup
67
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Posted - 2013.07.21 17:09:00 -
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Take the time to gain someone's trust and then destroy everything they entrusted you with and enjoy the spoils//thrill that only Eve offers. |
ElQuirko
Jester Syndicate
S0UTHERN C0MF0RT
1621
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Posted - 2013.07.21 20:31:00 -
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Aurora Jane Grey wrote: How did you find your place in EVE?
Theft, robbery, espionage and brigandry. Turns out you meet some really great people and lose the will to rob half of EVE.
Save the Domi model! Spacewhales should be preserved. |
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