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wizzard66
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Posted - 2005.12.15 13:50:00 -
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 Originally by: Pagefault
- 30 liters of coke
Liters???? Doesnt it come in grams? 
nm me im from the land of tulips, beautiful woman and free weed 
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Zag Nuu
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Posted - 2005.12.15 13:50:00 -
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CCP is bright and that's simple...
SONY STATION:
server down for 6 hours, promise!
reality.... server down for 2 days.
WOW:
Server down for 6 hours!
reality... some servers went down for days last year lol.
EVE:
server down for 24 hours
server are ruffly down for 24 hours :)
CCP simply doesn't shoot themself in the foot
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Grimwalius d'Antan
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Posted - 2005.12.15 13:54:00 -
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Some people fail to see that "patching up the server" is not the same thing as running an installer as it is for the clients. Most of it is just fail safe margins I'd guess. CCP has a habit of making promises they can not match in time. By saying it will take 24 hours, they have secured at least some 12 hours for emergency fixes. On other occations, they have opened up the game after successful patching just to find that something has gone terribly wrong. Given how 92% of the people on the internet are egoistic morons, this results in needles rabble for hours ahead as people can't accept downtime despite how well the game works every other day before and after patch day, they have to be asshats until the game works as intended.
Im beginning to think the CCP bashing behaviour is a sign of unquestionable, unhealthy addiction. Addicts of every form are agressive about the lack of supplies for their addiction. Don't think of it as a joke, addictions are no laughing matters.
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kieron
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Posted - 2005.12.15 14:01:00 -
[34]
Originally by: Caryna
normal system-upgrade procedure:
stop servers and db -
fullbackup of all systems -
patch/update -
test update -
fullbackup of all systems -
-- ready to go -- open system
Caryna is pretty close. Only thing I would add is creating a few new builds as QA catches bugs that slipped through earlier testing, more QA, and sanity checks.
Oh, something that almost everyone missed, the consumption of much coffee, Mountain Dew and other caffeine-laden beverages. 
kieron
Community Manager,
EVE Online
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Magunus
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Posted - 2005.12.15 14:06:00 -
[35]
Originally by: kieron
Oh, something that almost everyone missed, the consumption of much coffee, Mountain Dew and other caffeine-laden beverages.
Don't forget the associated bathroom breaks.
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Tonkin
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Posted - 2005.12.15 14:10:00 -
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i think there doing a fresh installs of the server clients and putting a pure version of rmr on instead of a patched coldwar version
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Winter Star
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Posted - 2005.12.15 14:13:00 -
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And looking at Boobies.  
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Jin Entres
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Posted - 2005.12.15 14:14:00 -
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I thought it was a good excuse to take the chance to use the bandwith to download **** for a year's "content development" 
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Polymerase
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Posted - 2005.12.15 14:15:00 -
[39]
Originally by: kieron
Oh, something that almost everyone missed, the consumption of much coffee, Mountain Dew and other caffeine-laden beverages.
What no QUAFE?!?!?!
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Darklandz
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Posted - 2005.12.15 14:16:00 -
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Originally by: kieron
Originally by: Caryna
normal system-upgrade procedure:
stop servers and db -
fullbackup of all systems -
patch/update -
test update -
fullbackup of all systems -
-- ready to go -- open system
Caryna is pretty close. Only thing I would add is creating a few new builds as QA catches bugs that slipped through earlier testing, more QA, and sanity checks.
Oh, something that almost everyone missed, the consumption of much coffee, Mountain Dew and other caffeine-laden beverages.
Then they need to feed the 100k hamsters
Replace old with younger models
jumpstart the hamsters
make sure they get on cruise speed
fire up TQ
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Invisible Touch
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Posted - 2005.12.15 14:16:00 -
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Originally by: Tonkin
i think there doing a fresh installs of the server clients and putting a pure version of rmr on instead of a patched coldwar version
I think that's what we should do with our clients also! At least after 2-3 days when the download frenzy will go away.
All of the above are personal views/opinions only and not that of my corp or/and alliance
Every day we stand is another day for PA.
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Tharbad
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Posted - 2005.12.15 14:23:00 -
[42]
Originally by: kieron
Originally by: Caryna
normal system-upgrade procedure:
stop servers and db -
fullbackup of all systems -
patch/update -
test update -
fullbackup of all systems -
-- ready to go -- open system
Caryna is pretty close. Only thing I would add is creating a few new builds as QA catches bugs that slipped through earlier testing, more QA, and sanity checks.
Oh, something that almost everyone missed, the consumption of much coffee, Mountain Dew and other caffeine-laden beverages.
Busted, Keiron. Dew isnt available in Europe, much to our constant annoyance. Seriously, its not that awesome, but when you can't get any... and you're thirsty... you just want some, its precious. FFS, send some over, you yankee bastards....
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Suze'Rain
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Posted - 2005.12.15 14:27:00 -
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Originally by: kieron
Only thing I would add is <snip>, and sanity checks.
is that on the software, or the devs themselves...?
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Redundancy
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Posted - 2005.12.15 14:31:00 -
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We know we're crazy.
I'm pretty dang sure I've been drinking *something* green with a mountain dew sticker!
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Zeromancer
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Posted - 2005.12.15 14:32:00 -
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Mountain dew is available in norway.
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Henry Fredyericus
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Posted - 2005.12.15 14:37:00 -
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hmm....it sure does take a lot of time to clean up the stations in caldari region. No wonder... To me it usually takes about 10 minutes to move out the carbage bucket... But when you got months of carbage hauled up there...I would say the CCP is doing a good job, putting it in a 24 hour time frame :)
Good work CCP :)
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Hawk Firestorm
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Posted - 2005.12.15 14:51:00 -
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My guess is they are taking the opportunity to do database maintenance and system maintenance at the same time.
Be patient 24hrs here prolly save alotta grief over the next 6mths or so.
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James Lyrus
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Posted - 2005.12.15 15:02:00 -
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Whenever I do a large scale upgrade, I usually budget a whole weekend when I've about 8 hours of work.
It's _FAR_ better to overestimate time needed and finish early, than it is to over run.
However that said, there's how many servers in the Tranquillity cluster these days? First pass, you get a backup, then you get to update that database, even if it is on a RAMSAN. Then there's the actually patching the stuff, bringing it up etc.
Now at a guess, the 'overnight run' started at 8pm but could mostly run in 'batch mode' overnight, with the 'real' work starting first thing this morning, when everyone was bright fresh and alert.
And of course, once it's done, I'm prepared to bet there's a certain amount of testing to be done, to check that all the rather notable changes have actually worked.
Best of luck guys, and remember, good is infinitely preferable to fast.
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ELaine Doi
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Posted - 2005.12.15 15:04:00 -
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Harumph to James Lyrus - far better to get it right than do it fast & mess it up.
Been there , done that , got the overtime.
cheers
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Uther Doull
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Posted - 2005.12.15 15:10:00 -
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Originally by: kieron
Oh, something that almost everyone missed, the consumption of much coffee, Mountain Dew and other caffeine-laden beverages.
i'd say that's a given :P
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Face Lifter
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Posted - 2005.12.15 15:15:00 -
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Edited by: Face Lifter on 15/12/2005 15:15:19
Originally by: kieron
Caryna is pretty close. Only thing I would add is creating a few new builds as QA catches bugs that slipped through earlier testing, more QA, and sanity checks.
Am I the only one who sees a problem with this? they are creating a new, essentially untested version and releasing it on TQ. Yes, they fixed some bugs from previous version, but they don't perform full test of the patch as a whole. Why do we have SiSi test server? Is it really that hard to have a code freeze and let things be tested for a couple days before releasing a new build?
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Uther Doull
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Posted - 2005.12.15 15:18:00 -
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well fixing bugs you find during testing is pretty much impossible if you rigidly enforce the code freeze, but i see your point... let's hope they get it right
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Miracle Max
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Posted - 2005.12.15 15:34:00 -
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Comming from SWG, I would rather they take there time instead of rushing in a incomplete product and having to shut it down everyday for hours for 3 weeks straight. Anything they miss , tell us its working as intended.......
So kudo's for the long down time. Makes me feel a bit better about the patch and content comming.
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