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PyroEra
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Posted - 2005.12.28 19:42:00 -
[61]
 Originally by: darth solo
Originally by: R31D
Edited by: R31D on 16/12/2005 22:48:57
5x 220mm Vulcans
3x medium nos
1x AB
1x large shieldbooster
1x large extender
1x em hardener
1x thermal hardener
2x gyrostab
2x PDU
thats one of the setups i have used, in fact its exactly one of the setups i have used.. iv also tried passive shields with the new shield skills which also works well.
Flying with others u can even use a XL shield booster...
Cyclone is a very good ship the now, much much better than a muninn which cant seem to fit half as well.
d solo.
hehe i have used this exact setup as well, works nice, but no cylone can stand up to a tempest a 3 T2 Thoraxes hehe...i got jumped in 0.0...but no big deal lol...gotta love insurance.
anyways, ya, never got to lvl 3 missions yet, but this setup works well.
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deathfighter
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Posted - 2005.12.30 03:41:00 -
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I tried:
Hi: 5 425II, 2 heavy launchers, 1 cruise launcher
med 10mmabII large sb, 2hardeners, boost amplifier
xpduII, 4-x gyroII.
Tanks like a mofo and damage is ok. i did squise 2 cruise laucher but without the ab and large booster II. it fits with great trouble with a standart laucher and 180II but fits. funny seing a battlecruiser with full rack of guns and 2 cruise laucher around.
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Johannes Buckbeak
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Posted - 2006.01.09 00:43:00 -
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Originally by: Sarmaul
Edited by: Sarmaul on 28/12/2005 15:54:44
Dual 220mm II x 6
Heavy Launcher II x 3
AB II x 1
Large Extender II x 4
Shield Power Relay x 4
fits with far too much pg and cpu to spare.
Hey, you got one of those Limited Edition Cyclones with nine High slots. You got a friend in CCP? 
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Bramble
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Posted - 2006.01.10 05:17:00 -
[64]
Originally by: Thercon Jair
Edited by: Thercon Jair on 27/12/2005 00:22:58
My NPC-setup looks like this:
5x220mm ACs, 3 med NOS
10mn ABII, Large shield booster, invulnerabilty field, 2xhardeners depending on NPC
Damage Control (named with no resists to structure, but nice resists to shields), 2 PDU, Tracking Enhancer II
3medium drones, 2 light drones
I'm fighting Serpentis in this, with a kinetic and thermal hardener I get 72% thermal and 79% kinetic resistance. Interceptors were no issue so far. I usually target them, start shooting as they close in, activate the NOS on them and after 1-2 NOS cycles their MWD shuts off while my ACs hit it quite easily (that's why I have a tracking enhancer and no gyro in this setup).
A few days ago I killed a 9.375mil Shadow Serpentis Rear Admiral with 2 1.7mil Serpentis Grand Admirals. You really have to be careful and keep an eye on cap and shields while closing in on the rail BSs, once you're within NOS range you're fine. Guess that you can run the large booster continuously when NOSing a BS and working with techII PDUs.
Wow, so a Cyclone could handle itself in 0.0 ratting against multiple BSes? I was disappointed in my Jaguar taking 20 minutes to even get through a 950k serpentis BSes shields, but I don't want to use a BS of my own if something smaller and cheaper is acceptable.
I will definately be trying this setup out.
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Matrices Reborn
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Posted - 2006.01.11 18:08:00 -
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Why does everyone use the weakest AC, 220, instead of the strongest, 425? With 425mm you need to put a webber on, so you lose 1 shield tanking module, but the 200mm setup seems frig-centered. Aren't you going to get annihilated in a battle with another BC up-close in PvP that has a more powerful up-close set up?
I don't think 1 resist or whatever is going to make up for having the weakest autocannons mounted against another BC.
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R31D
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Posted - 2006.01.11 18:13:00 -
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Originally by: Matrices Reborn
Why does everyone use the weakest AC, 220, instead of the strongest, 425? With 425mm you need to put a webber on, so you lose 1 shield tanking module, but the 200mm setup seems frig-centered. Aren't you going to get annihilated in a battle with another BC up-close in PvP that has a more powerful up-close set up?
I don't think 1 resist or whatever is going to make up for having the weakest autocannons mounted against another BC.
I'm sure there are a few who'd take you up on that
Also, fittings probably make a difference and there's probably a reason why 425mm ACs are used very rarely and 220mm are used much more.
One more thing: d180 do least DPS
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Matrices Reborn
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Posted - 2006.01.11 18:46:00 -
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Crap. So first I wasted money buying 5 x 720 (Well not a waste, can still use on missions), but now a real waste on 5 x 425? Would two tracking enhancers make it able to hit frigs without web? And are you really sure 220mm AC can do damage up close comparable to other cruisers and BC and/or the extra shield tank module opened up by not using webber compensates?
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R31D
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Posted - 2006.01.11 21:09:00 -
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You haven't wasted money, they'll still do well for PvP/PvE. Also, you don't have to sacrifice a slot for webbers - 5x medium webber drones work quite nicely.
Just find a setup that works for you, you should only use setups on the forum as a basis to work from as nobody in their right mind would give an "I Win" setup away for free
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Matrices Reborn
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Posted - 2006.01.11 23:23:00 -
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Well I don't understand how people are saying they shred through frigs at 220mm at all. I inputted the stats of 220 and 425 in the tracking guide, assuming enemy transveral velocity of 240 and sig radius 40, there is no freaking difference whatsoever between the two guns in their ability to hit frigates.
Maybe some can clarify...
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Matrices Reborn
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Posted - 2006.01.12 13:09:00 -
[70]
Also - what medium webber drones? All I see in the market is the heavy webifier? 
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Agnar Koladrov
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Posted - 2006.01.12 13:16:00 -
[71]
Originally by: Matrices Reborn
Well I don't understand how people are saying they shred through frigs at 220mm at all. I inputted the stats of 220 and 425 in the tracking guide, assuming enemy transveral velocity of 240 and sig radius 40, there is no freaking difference whatsoever between the two guns in their ability to hit frigates.
Maybe some can clarify...
There was something the matter with the tracking guide not taking into account the quality of the hits, or something like that.
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Winter Solstice
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Posted - 2006.01.12 15:42:00 -
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I'd love to see some setups that people have used to reliably finish the tougher L3's, like Portal to War and Blackmarket Hub.
Some of the warp-in situations are really brutal, with many attacking ships coupled with webbers/scramblers.
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R31D
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Posted - 2006.01.12 17:05:00 -
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Originally by: Matrices Reborn
Also - what medium webber drones? All I see in the market is the heavy webifier?
They were on sisi when I used them with my Cyclone so I presumed they'd made it ingame
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Matrices Reborn
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Posted - 2006.01.12 20:23:00 -
[74]
Ah, thanks.
Say, what about running 3xNOS, 2xAC, and 3xHeavies? I know the ship gets turret bonuses, but don't heavies do way more damage? Or even assaults...like, 75HP damage in 12 seconds is greater than 8HP damage in 3.3 seconds, and you should be able to kill the target before enough time goes by such that the ROF on the AC makes it do more overall damage than missiles, right?
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MysticNZ
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Posted - 2006.01.12 21:04:00 -
[75]
<3 Cyclone love.
I perfer short range setups, anyone got a good long range setup?
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R31D
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Posted - 2006.01.12 22:20:00 -
[76]
Originally by: Matrices Reborn
Ah, thanks.
Say, what about running 3xNOS, 2xAC, and 3xHeavies? I know the ship gets turret bonuses, but don't heavies do way more damage? Or even assaults...like, 75HP damage in 12 seconds is greater than 8HP damage in 3.3 seconds, and you should be able to kill the target before enough time goes by such that the ROF on the AC makes it do more overall damage than missiles, right?
I think your missing the damage mod of the ACs there - unless you use Carbonized Lead maybe. Either wya, ACs are definitely the way to go. People fit nos to fill up the slots they feel would be wasted on missiles (or that's why they fit the number of nos they do anyway).
Also, MysticNZ, duel Cyclopz!
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Blind Man
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Posted - 2006.01.12 22:31:00 -
[77]
Edited by: Blind Man on 12/01/2006 22:32:05
5x 220mm II, 3 t2 med nos
1x large booster II, 2 amps, 2 invuln fields
3x gyros, 1x whatever (might need a co-proc)
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Trelennen
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Posted - 2006.01.12 22:45:00 -
[78]
Edited by: Trelennen on 12/01/2006 22:46:11
Originally by: Winter Solstice
I'd love to see some setups that people have used to reliably finish the tougher L3's, like Portal to War and Blackmarket Hub.
Some of the warp-in situations are really brutal, with many attacking ships coupled with webbers/scramblers.
Didn't have Portal to War offered to me, and don't know if it would do the job, but here's what I use right now (worked fine for BM Hub):
[Highs]
5x 720mm arty (T1, with some named, can't use T2 yet) - using Proton and Depleted Uranium
3x assault launchers (1 limos, 2 SV-2000) - mainly for damn NPC tacklers, 'cause with my skills they don't hit over 27km, and I usually shoot around 35km)
[Meds]
10mn AB II, Large shield booster II, Large shield extender II, 2x Invulnerability field II. (If you don't mind taking ages to approach the gates in missions, or go to the next spawn after kiting one, you could replace the AB with a boost amp for more tank, or a tracking comp.
[Lows]
3x PDUII, 1x Gyro II.
3x Med drones, 2x Light drones (Thinking about using 2x meds and 3x lights, as lights are more efficient against those bugger fast tacklers and I don't have a web, and have a small remote armor rep drone for when some drones have taken armor damage, specialy for when I'll use T2 drones (very soon)).
On extravaganzas, I have to use the booster only a couple of times, on BM Hub had to use it more though.
Edit: BlindMan >> err... AC setup without an AB? Not even nanofibers in low, well I wouldn't use that...
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Netrunner
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Posted - 2006.01.15 02:32:00 -
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Anyone been eble to get away with using this on L3 - The Spy Stash yet?? I've tried 3 different setups so far with no love. Thinking about trying 5 heavy missile with 1x kin / 2x therm hardeners and a good extender and see what else I can fit. This missions a pain! Thanks!
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eC Cade
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Posted - 2006.01.15 03:25:00 -
[80]
I herd all your NPC setups, what about your pvp setups?
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Trelennen
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Posted - 2006.01.15 12:57:00 -
[81]
Originally by: Netrunner
Anyone been eble to get away with using this on L3 - The Spy Stash yet?? I've tried 3 different setups so far with no love. Thinking about trying 5 heavy missile with 1x kin / 2x therm hardeners and a good extender and see what else I can fit. This missions a pain! Thanks!
Yeah, the setup I gave just above has made through spy stash quite easily (had to run the booster sometimes though ).
By the way, you want to try 5 heavy missiles? You know that the cyclone has only 3 missile hardpoints right? If you want 5 heavys, you need a ferox .
Anyway, after checking on paper, I began to try 3x 720 3x Heavy + 2x Medium pulses (for tacklers). With my skills (low in missiles), I get 15% more DPS on paper, and choosing the right missiles makes it quite efficient
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Talos Darkhart
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Posted - 2006.01.15 13:16:00 -
[82]
I PvP with this setup
5x T2 vulcan 220mm, 3x med nos
1x domination XL booster,Amp, 2x T2 invun fields, Named cap injector
4x T2 Pdu's
For angel belt rats same but swap xl booster for cl5 large and the cap injector for a T2 afterburner. Most of the angels like to get close so normally no problems.
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Voodoo Papa
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Posted - 2006.01.15 17:20:00 -
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This is my Lvl 3 Security Mission setup. Keep in mind I only have 2.8 mil sp
High:
3x 720 Prototype Siege (depl. uranium @30km, EMP @15km)
2x 280 Protype Siege (phased plasma @10km)
3x XR-3200 Heavy Missile (widowmakers)
Med:
Shield Amp I
Large F-49 Regolith Shield extender
Y-58 Hydro Carbon Afterburner
Phase Weapon Navigation Array (target painter)
Large C5-h Emergency Shield Overload recharger
Low:
2x Local Hull Conversion Overdrive Injector
Domination Tracking Enhancer
Counter Balanced Weapon Mounts
Drones:
Hammerhead x4
ive had no problems running LvL missions with this setup (missing reporter, tech secrets, etc), the only problem I run into is cargo space :) However, I am open to suggestions.
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Elve Sorrow
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Posted - 2006.01.15 17:24:00 -
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5 * 720 II
2 * Standard launcher
1 * Small Remote Rep
1 * 10mn MWD
1 * Large Shielbooster II
3 * Multispec II
2 * PDU II
2 * Nanofiber
Group setup, obviously. For a bit more tanking, switch 2 Multispecs to Invull Fields or EM/Thermal hardners.
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AstroPhobic
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Posted - 2006.01.20 03:35:00 -
[85]
I have pretty low skills- Eng/Elec Wise
I use
5x720mm, 3x Heavy Launcher
1 Medium Booster II, 2 Armor Hardeners(Active, Therm+Kin), 2 Shield Boost Amps
2 PDU's, 1 Co-Processor, 1 Damage control
My mate uses something very similar-
5x720mm II's, 3x Heavy Launcher
Same Medslots
2 PDU II's, 2 Gyrostabalizer
PvE Setups
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Dentagarg
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Posted - 2006.01.24 09:30:00 -
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I use for PVE
High : 5 Tech II 720mm 3 Arbalest Assault Launcher
Med : 1 Tech II Shieldbooster 3 Hardener Kin Expl EM and
1 Tech II Caprecharger
Low : 1 PDU / 2 Tech II Gyrostab/1 TechII Tracking Enhan.
4 Med Drones / Never had to change it for any Level 3
Mission / For PVP might be useless but for
Missions it works well to go fast through
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Ima Doll
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Posted - 2006.01.24 10:53:00 -
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my set up
low- 4 Power diag systems II
med- large shield booster II; med shield extender II; 10mn AB II; 2x cap rechargers II;
High 3x arbalest assault missle launchers; 5x 720mm prototype I siege cannon
This set up works great if you have engergy systems operation at level 5 I can turn shields and ab and never run out of cap.
doing level 3 missions with it and most are realy easy.
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Rava
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Posted - 2006.01.24 11:13:00 -
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Hi guys im starting testing a setup will full shield extenders, i need to go down to 650 because this is a HOG in power, but for the start with only 2 Large i can get 8627 of Shield and i think i can push it to 12k, and my BC skill is only lvl 3 at moment.
Take a look
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Trelennen
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Posted - 2006.01.24 17:55:00 -
[89]
Originally by: Rava
Hi guys im starting testing a setup will full shield extenders, i need to go down to 650 because this is a HOG in power, but for the start with only 2 Large i can get 8627 of Shield and i think i can push it to 12k, and my BC skill is only lvl 3 at moment.
Take a look
*stupid mega large screen*
Can't you make a link to that screen instead of puting it into your post? Not every one uses (and can use) 1600x1200 resolution, and it's really annoying to have a friggin horizontal scroll bar on the forums. Thanks.
PS: for your setup, the main problem is you have no resists on your shield... You'd be better off with booster + 2x invul + large extender imho. Or even go full passive, but that would be a waste of the boost bonus. Having lots of HP and being able to boost a lot is cool, but it's better having 3/4 of the HP but with resists allowing you to take 50% less damage, even if you boost less, 'cause overall you'll tank more incoming damage for longer.
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Capt 69
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Posted - 2006.01.24 18:09:00 -
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Originally by: KilROCK
Originally by: PyroEra
5x 220mm Vulcans
3x medium nos
1x AB
1x large shieldbooster
1x large extender
1x em hardener
1x thermal hardener
2x gyrostab
2x PDU
if i dont have the skills for hardeners...what else would work there? and im wondering on the nos/or missile thing...what should i do?
switch to two invulnerability field II and it's way better....
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