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Karrin Rawlter
The New Gallentean Combine
25
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Posted - 2013.07.27 19:01:00 -
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We're a rookie corp in frigates and everyone got excited for BIG FITE. Now there's just one or two of 'em sitting in BCs outside a station. So we can't really mine, and we can't really fight. How boring. |

Jonah Gravenstein
Matah Kagmi Designs
11294
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Posted - 2013.07.27 19:03:00 -
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Swamp them with frigates, BCs usually have a hard time hitting frigs. You might not kill them, but you'll have a giggle trying.
Bullshit is a greater enemy of the truth than lies are ~ Harry G. Frankfurt |

Trudeaux Margaret
Open University of Celestial Hardship Art of War Alliance
76
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Posted - 2013.07.27 19:04:00 -
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Karrin Rawlter wrote:We're a rookie corp in frigates and everyone got excited for BIG FITE. Now there's just one or two of 'em sitting in BCs outside a station. So we can't really mine, and we can't really fight. How boring.
Welcome to highsec "wars". Yes, this is how it is, and this is why I fled to nullsec as soon as I could find a way to do so.
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Isaac Collins
Insanely Twisted D3vil's Childr3n
27
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Posted - 2013.07.27 19:13:00 -
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TLDR My butt hurts how can we make them stop? |

Jorden Ishonen
Kinetic Technologies
101
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Posted - 2013.07.27 19:22:00 -
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Karrin Rawlter wrote:We're a rookie corp in frigates and everyone got excited for BIG FITE. Now there's just one or two of 'em sitting in BCs outside a station. So we can't really mine, and we can't really fight. How boring.
How is that boring? They're the ones waiting for you to bring the fight. |

Diesel47
Bad Men Ltd.
737
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Posted - 2013.07.27 19:24:00 -
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How many frigs do you guys have? |

Karrin Rawlter
The New Gallentean Combine
25
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Posted - 2013.07.27 19:25:00 -
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Well, we go out and roam in frigates, but there's not a lot of fights that our 3 or 4 t1 frigates can engage in. So, we wait for them to get in ships that we can fight. But why would they do that? So everyone just sits where they are. |

Diesel47
Bad Men Ltd.
737
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Posted - 2013.07.27 19:28:00 -
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Yeah 3 or 4 newbie frigs probably won't stand up to two BCs.
Wait until there is only one of them, then undock and swarm him.
Make sure you guys use tracking disruption and kill his drones. |

Karrin Rawlter
The New Gallentean Combine
25
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Posted - 2013.07.27 19:30:00 -
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Isaac Collins wrote:TLDR My butt hurts how can we make them stop?
Nah dude you missed the point. I'm saying you guys ****** up in targets. We were really excited for a fight. Then the timer rolls around, 24 hours are up, 5 of us are waiting in a gang and..... nothing. I log in today, we get a small group going, we're out in frigates and you guys have 4 BCs. We can't fight that. So, okay, you're bigger than us. What do you do with all that strength? You can't extort us, we're rookies. You have overwhelming force and nothing to do with it. All it does is make the game boring on both sides. |

Riot Girl
Krypteia Operations
1407
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Posted - 2013.07.27 19:32:00 -
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If you want some excitement, sell your mining barge and take up a career in making people upset. Especially people who have the weight to back their words. Oh god. |

Mikhem
Taxisk Unlimited
58
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Posted - 2013.07.27 19:41:00 -
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Karrin Rawlter wrote:We're a rookie corp in frigates and everyone got excited for BIG FITE. Now there's just one or two of 'em sitting in BCs outside a station. So we can't really mine, and we can't really fight. How boring.
Why Aren't you asking for war allies? Allies could cause pressure for your enemies. Why haven't you placed bounty on your enemies? Bounty could cause pressure for your enemies.
Mikhem
Game improvement ideas. |

Hessian Arcturus
S.W.O.R.D. Navy
301
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Posted - 2013.07.27 19:41:00 -
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How many corps is this wardeccing corp at war with? Or is it just you guys? If theres others, message them and ask them to come to your system amd combine your efforts, your corp alone has 30something members. Combine all online players from your corp with the other wardec'd corps and go play wack a mole... It's human nature to want to explore. To find your line and go beyond it. The only limit, is the one you set yourself. |

Mars Starforge
Delta vane Corp. D3vil's Childr3n
2
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Posted - 2013.07.27 19:42:00 -
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IT PLACES THE LOTION ON ITS SKIN OR IT GETS THE HOSE AGAIN |

Hessian Arcturus
S.W.O.R.D. Navy
301
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Posted - 2013.07.27 19:47:00 -
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Mars Starforge wrote:IT PLACES THE LOTION ON ITS SKIN OR IT GETS THE HOSE AGAIN
If you're going to quote Silence of the Lambs...At least get it right... It's human nature to want to explore. To find your line and go beyond it. The only limit, is the one you set yourself. |

Isaac Collins
Insanely Twisted D3vil's Childr3n
27
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Posted - 2013.07.27 19:51:00 -
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Karrin Rawlter wrote:Isaac Collins wrote:TLDR My butt hurts how can we make them stop? Nah dude you missed the point. I'm saying you guys ****** up in targets. We were really excited for a fight. Then the timer rolls around, 24 hours are up, 5 of us are waiting in a gang and..... nothing. I log in today, we get a small group going, we're out in frigates and you guys have 4 BCs. We can't fight that. So, okay, you're bigger than us. What do you do with all that strength? You can't extort us, we're rookies. You have overwhelming force and nothing to do with it. All it does is make the game boring on both sides. What are you talking about? Last night we had a pos defense and after that we Went roaming high sec pockets for war targets in 2 Caracals a Harpy and an Enyo. What are you talking abou BC's? |

flakeys
Arkham Innovations
1253
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Posted - 2013.07.27 19:58:00 -
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yes usually that is how high sec wardecs go .
We are all born ignorant, but one must work hard to remain stupid.
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voetius
L V B Industries STELLAR CONSTELLATION
74
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Posted - 2013.07.27 20:28:00 -
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1. there are lots of things you can do ... get a neutral alt(s) in a Stabber(s) to bump them off station (assuming it's a kick out station).
2. If they are fighting on a non-kickout station, move your base to a kickout station and let them come to you, go to 1. |

Seven Koskanaiken
EVE Corporation 987654321-POP The Marmite Collective
303
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Posted - 2013.07.27 21:03:00 -
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Mars Starforge wrote:IT PLACES THE LOTION ON ITS SKIN OR IT GETS THE HOSE AGAIN
Precious, are you up there you little **** |

Arduemont
The Asteroid Solution
1634
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Posted - 2013.07.27 22:14:00 -
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Yea, war decs need some work. This coming from someone who ran a small war deccing corp for months. I'm not saying I have the answer, but something needs to change. "In the age of information, ignorance is a choice." |

Jason Marshall
The Marshall Group Covenant of the Phoenix Alliance
201
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Posted - 2013.07.27 23:44:00 -
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This feels like the kind of post that is part of a surrender offer.
Kind of a throwback to pod or posts. |

Selexim
Leader Dogs
1
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Posted - 2013.07.27 23:48:00 -
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That alliance is involved in a lot of wars, so why not contact one of the other corps they are fighting against and see about flying along side them.
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Litair
Donchian Stripes
200
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Posted - 2013.07.28 00:13:00 -
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Basically the way EVE works for the most part is.. either you're certain you'll win or you don't fight at all.
This is of course due to the fact that losses hurt quite much in this game compared to other PvP'ish games, but also that we have public killboards on the internet that displays your wins as well as losses, and that's what defines your level of cool and value as a human being.
Jokes aside, it means that it often comes down to one side being the stronger one and on the offensive and the other one hiding and consequently running to avoid stupid losses. A fair and somewhat consensual fight is a very rare thing, but it does happen occasionally.. but mostly in cheap faction warfare :p |

Diesel47
Bad Men Ltd.
737
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Posted - 2013.07.28 00:18:00 -
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Litair wrote:Basically the way EVE works for the most part is.. either you're certain you'll win or you don't fight at all.
That is how noobs think. There are plenty of corps that enjoy fighting against the odds and alot of the time they don't end up winning. |

Litair
Donchian Stripes
200
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Posted - 2013.07.28 00:24:00 -
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Diesel47 wrote:Litair wrote:Basically the way EVE works for the most part is.. either you're certain you'll win or you don't fight at all.
That is how noobs think. There are plenty of corps that enjoy fighting against the odds and alot of the time they don't end up winning.
If you by noobs mean the vast majority of the population, then yes.. but sure there are some people that don't mind a challenge, thankfully. |

Diesel47
Bad Men Ltd.
737
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Posted - 2013.07.28 00:27:00 -
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Litair wrote:Diesel47 wrote:Litair wrote:Basically the way EVE works for the most part is.. either you're certain you'll win or you don't fight at all.
That is how noobs think. There are plenty of corps that enjoy fighting against the odds and alot of the time they don't end up winning. If you by noobs mean the vast majority of the population, then yes.. but sure there are some people that don't mind a challenge, thankfully.
As in anything, its only the top 5% that are truly good at what they do. |

Andrea Griffin
628
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Posted - 2013.07.28 04:48:00 -
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Karrin Rawlter wrote: We were really excited for a fight. [...] I log in today, we get a small group going, we're out in frigates and you guys have 4 BCs. We can't fight that. So, okay, you're bigger than us. What do you do with all that strength? You can't extort us, we're rookies. You have overwhelming force and nothing to do with it. All it does is make the game boring on both sides. They're just looking for riskless, easy kills. Typical high sec war dec.
If they were actually good at PvP they would be willing to meet you on a more level playing field - flying frigates and other small ships - and win by a show of skill. Guess that shows how good they really are.
You guys have the right attitude, quite frankly. You're willing to fight, you're just not willing to commit suicide. For Eve rookies that's commendable. I wish you all the best of luck. CCP Sreegs is my favorite developer. |

Job Valador
Super Moose Defence Force
127
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Posted - 2013.07.28 13:36:00 -
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I remember the D3vils Children from when I lived in the verge vendor. I was very new then and bought skill books from the low sec system queletta. They hung out there allot. Hard too get those books but they were a fun group too talk too.
Back on topic though, just swarm with frigs, have a few laughs, get too know these guys. Just because they are a pirate group (at least they were when i interacted with them about a year ago) and just because they war decked you doesn't mean they are not cool dudes "The stone exhibited a profound lack of movement." |

Zimmy Zeta
Dreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore
25814
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Posted - 2013.07.28 13:59:00 -
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Your corp description says you are 32 players, yet you say you can only muster about 4-5 players in t1 frigates willing to fight. Sadly, this is rather typical for highsec corps. I won't tell you how to lead your corp, but consider this an opportunity to find out who of your corp is truly motivated and willing to fight for it and who is just useless ballast. Just think of how bad an average post by me is, and then realize half of them are even worse |

Lysus
Insanely Twisted D3vil's Childr3n
10
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Posted - 2013.07.29 06:25:00 -
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Andrea Griffin wrote:Karrin Rawlter wrote: We were really excited for a fight. [...] I log in today, we get a small group going, we're out in frigates and you guys have 4 BCs. We can't fight that. So, okay, you're bigger than us. What do you do with all that strength? You can't extort us, we're rookies. You have overwhelming force and nothing to do with it. All it does is make the game boring on both sides. They're just looking for riskless, easy kills. Typical high sec war dec. If they were actually good at PvP they would be willing to meet you on a more level playing field - flying frigates and other small ships - and win by a show of skill. Guess that shows how good they really are. You guys have the right attitude, quite frankly. You're willing to fight, you're just not willing to commit suicide. For Eve rookies that's commendable. I wish you all the best of luck.
We have been in frigates and Cruisers. They still won't fight :) |

Lysus
Insanely Twisted D3vil's Childr3n
10
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Posted - 2013.07.29 06:25:00 -
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Job Valador wrote:I remember the D3vils Children from when I lived in the verge vendor. I was very new then and bought skill books from the low sec system queletta. They hung out there allot. Hard too get those books but they were a fun group too talk too.
Back on topic though, just swarm with frigs, have a few laughs, get too know these guys. Just because they are a pirate group (at least they were when i interacted with them about a year ago) and just because they war decked you doesn't mean they are not cool dudes
Thank you good sir  |
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