I remember last event about low-sec, Nyx and thousand frigates. I was killed there, client crashed and I was not able to return to the system. So i can't say "system works well". Yea, last 0.0 battle shown that system can hold more people (4000?) so i see progress. However i don't agree with your "system works well" and "nothing to do". Either Eve Online is a game of big alliances/big battles and it handles such numbers well or not.

People are complaining that they are confusing GÇ£holding as many as it canGÇ¥ with GÇ£it holds everyoneGÇ¥, in spite of the fact that nothing of the kind has ever been claimed.

Everyone else is marvelling at how GÇ£as many as it canGÇ¥ keeps increasing and offering bigger and bigger crowds.

Never thought I'd meet someone more spoiled than my neighbor's 17 year old daughter (who threw a tantrum last week that ended up with other neighbors calling police...because she was upset at the color of the brand new off the show room floor car her dad bought here as a birthday present....)....


...... but I think i just did.....

[No, it really isn't. It's merely designed to hold as many people as it can. People are complaining that they are confusing GÇ£holding as many as it canGÇ¥ with GÇ£it holds everyoneGÇ¥, in spite of the fact that nothing of the kind has ever been claimed. Everyone else is marvelling at how GÇ£as many as it canGÇ¥ keeps increasing and offering bigger and bigger crowds.

They are assuming the worst. That's why they have given us TiDi. And no, GÇ£single shard serverGÇ¥ does not mean that everyone will pile into a single system at once, nor does it in any way imply that they can. It just means that once it's full, there's no more room. No other shards to go to. No instances to duplicate the same space.

People are using that argument because it's true, and because it trivially blows the GÇ£just build it biggerGÇ¥ argument for pointlessly wasting resources out of the water.

Of course not. Why should they? All they can do (and are doing) is enable and support that nature.

But I'm sure I once saw a commercial that said "fight everyone on Earth, right now" lol.

That's the big thing, BIG fights happen all the time, but even still there is a limit and that limit keeps growing. We'd still be in 2010 without TiDi, that alone makes TiDi a good thing.



I'm one of those Marvellers.

I am somewhat appalled and offended on behalf of ccp that someone is actually suggesting that they are LAZY for providing us a situation that no other game can claim simply because the situation isn't perfect. Are these people crazy? Seriously. \

Someone show me ONE other game like EVE that can put 4000 people in the exact same virtual space and do anything at all.

CCP is telling the public that it can hold everyone. They are quite literally saying that's what their sandbox is designed for.

That's **** poor planning to say everyone is one big single place then not allow the population to live there.

Because they are starting to reach the end of their promise and soon cannot deliver as they said they could.

Atleast you admitted to their nature being laziness

This isn't to say alot of people are not grateful of their work, but people are allowed a certain level of expectation once they spend money on a service.

No matter how "appalled" you can get, once you start making excuses, you are only lying to yourself and shortchanging yourself.

Because they are starting to reach the end of their promise and soon cannot deliver as they said they could. Atleast you admitted to their nature being laziness (since that was what I originally said in the comment you quote) about choosing to stay single shard instead of working to revamp their entire platform. I'd rather have it unknown though but meh.

I remember nodes catching fire at 400 man fights.

What makes you think CCP have reached their limit?

When you start looking at facts and if you find them inconvenient you call them "excuses" you've already lost all credibility... and the argument.

Time for you to run along.

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Where have they ever said that?

Server cap limits when trying to enter a system.

What "facts" are inconvenient?

On the login screen.

Sometimes "discussions" here are complex and involve lots of variables and motivations.

This isn't one of them.

This discussion boils down to "cup half empty" people with unrealistic expectations vs "cup half full" people who understand that "man, this is great, 2 years of slow motion something is much better than the previous 8 years of black screened nothing".

I honestly tend to despise the "half empty" people, modern life (including EVE, TiDi and all) is awesome.

Server cap limits when trying to enter a system.

I assume you mean jita which has had its cap raised several times and has been shown to be able to hold over 4000 people which is three times its normal load.

The only reason there is a cap is because people whined about TiDi. You honestly think we will see no more investment in the most powerful gaming servers on the planet?

It would be nice for the cap to be removed and Jita to be in perpetually heavy TiDi

Even better actually. Don't have cap, don't TiDi, Jita would blackscreen and crash the node every now and then when too many people were in space in jita.

Even better actually. Don't have cap, don't TiDi, Jita would blackscreen and crash the node every now and then when too many people were in space in jita.