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thoth foc
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Posted - 2005.12.19 14:46:00 -
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Originally by: Naphtalia
Originally by: anister Originally by: Naphtalia tbh, I wish they came up here... I love fighting BOS <..snip..> but I beg BOS to come up here
SoonÖ
Cool ani, looking forward to it, let me know if you need a hand or a travel pass to move in.
lol.. an F-E travel pass.. now that would be a collectors item :)
--thoth [5], ex-Curse Alliance ex-DSMA |

Vince Draken
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Posted - 2005.12.19 14:53:00 -
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Originally by: The Cursed
Originally by: Vince Draken
Originally by: The Cursed
Originally by: Vince Draken
Originally by: The Cursed Edited by: The Cursed on 19/12/2005 08:15:01 Everytime FE forms a fleet to combat you "ADUCKS" Go Ateam and the tools following them like lost puppies. You guys run off and hide in either a safe spot or a station. Your finger is pointing the wrong way when your talking about not fighting. Hell your the ones who needed help from BOB to fight your own war. Good Game noobs.
Are you only a forum poster or do you have an ingame character?
This is a ingame character. Hummm me wonders who this noob is. If your curious you can find me under the most wanted or bounty area in game.
Yeah thanks
Here I thought you were just some washed up joker who hasnt done a meaningfull thing in eve in a very long time while living off a reputaion of old. I thought you were the kind of person who would only run their mouth on the forums without actually having any knowlege of whats really going on. Here I though that you had no kills on the Five killboard and havent had a kill on your own site in almost 3 months. What is suprising is that these dates just happens to coinside with our war on F-E and company.
So, please tell me again how your opinions are relevant?
Btw, self imposed bounties impress 10 day old characters. That is about it.
Why i waist time proving anything to newbs get me but just too please you i will fill you in. I'm not playing eve atm nor have i but only two weeks in the last years b/c ive been in Iraq. But i have the abilty to talk to many people who do. Which fuels every statement i make. Truth hurts and i can see you crying right now. BTW my bounty came from a friend who thought it would be a nice going away present before he left the game. Its more a pain then something cool and one more thing. I've been killing peeps in this game long before you were a nutt stain in some clones pants. Good Game!!!!!!!!!!!

If you arent ingame and dont play and all you base your opinions on is info from ppl on one side of the war, it might be best to not come flame on the forums.
Btw, unless you count killing on beta, I doubt you been at it longer than I.
The above thoughts and statements are IC and should be taken as such. |

Lazarix
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Posted - 2005.12.19 15:04:00 -
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Best of luck to [5] in their continuing war to keep the northern alliances in their place, and to wipe RA off the map.
LaZ
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Raith
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Posted - 2005.12.19 15:44:00 -
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Got to love JimmyÆs posts. Articulacy for the WIN 
GL fellaÆs, kill lots, and have loadsa fun  See you in space. o/
Originally by: Hast Oh its on now, never mess with me when I'm going mining.
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BlackDog Rackh'am
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Posted - 2005.12.19 17:15:00 -
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Degeneration of threads like this into flames never ceases to amaze me. I mean,it's predictable and expected,but the sheer repetition factor makes it funny in a twisted sense (either that or i'm bored at work )
I won't bother to present an analysis of the war since i've done this in some thread 1-2 days ago (it takes a long post and i'm bored atm) and an ex-[5] pilot backed up my assumptions.
Short version is that the only way to remove atuk is kill their fun factor,which in turn involves doing boring stuff ourselves,like camping them 24/7 with a bigger blob.
Other than that i see no big problem. I've made some 50 mil carelessly NPCing for a few hours, in a 5 jump radius around H-PA.
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Pehova Mindtriq
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Posted - 2005.12.19 17:45:00 -
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Originally by: BlackDog Rackh'am
Short version is that the only way to remove atuk is kill their fun factor,which in turn involves doing boring stuff ourselves,like camping them 24/7 with a bigger blob.
Hiding is a better tactic if you want to bore the enemy. But i doubt any leader with atleast a tiny bit of pride would order their members to hide just to get rid of the enemy.
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Kcel Chim
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Posted - 2005.12.19 18:11:00 -
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Originally by: Pehova Mindtriq
Originally by: BlackDog Rackh'am
Short version is that the only way to remove atuk is kill their fun factor,which in turn involves doing boring stuff ourselves,like camping them 24/7 with a bigger blob.
Hiding is a better tactic if you want to bore the enemy. But i doubt any leader with atleast a tiny bit of pride would order their members to hide just to get rid of the enemy.
FA did ^^
As for FE, if you would fight as much as you smack you might win a fleetbattle once in awhile or offer some serious fighting. You might fuel those members not playing the game into thinking how much you rock and own, sadly as soon as you connect to tq this wishfull thinking just pops like the dreambubbles youre spilling here so freely on the forums.
FE lost a good handfull of corps and recruited a good handfull to keep your numbers at hand. 5 lost 2 corps and some single members. We didnt recruit tho. You might blind joe.forumreader with that but we both and basically everyone in your alliance knows the truth, especially if u ask us to present your desperate cries for more ships when Atuk "outblobs" you (a whole alliance) in completely remote systems like d7, wh, imk (right they are unimporatant) or when we move our dreads freely or when we jump just with 1 scout in a system to see everyone run for the station or ss (ironically i didnt even have a fleet behind me and was just trying make my way to hpa).
On the otherhand u will prolly start to call me a liar and those things deluted. Im sure we will get logs or screenshots to prove the points, be it now or in a week, as we are going to stay.
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thoth foc
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Posted - 2005.12.19 18:14:00 -
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Originally by: BlackDog Rackh'am
Short version is that the only way to remove atuk is kill their fun factor,which in turn involves doing boring stuff ourselves,like camping them 24/7 with a bigger blob.
It's no lie saying we play for fun.. in my 6 mths in atuk i've only seen 2 rules..
1) When the corp needs something done, just do it.. whatever it is, if as a PVP'er you dont wanna do it.. whoever is leading the op, wants to do it 10 times less.. therefore it must be needed and it doesnt happen often..
2) Pull you weight and be professional in PVP..
After those no one really cares.. we kill ppl and make them cry.. why care if they like us or not? if you wanna be friendly with enemies, fine.. if you dont fine..
--thoth [5], ex-Curse Alliance ex-DSMA |

Cozak
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Posted - 2005.12.19 19:24:00 -
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Good luck to Shinra and M.Corp with your new alliance. I'm sure you'll do great, You always have.
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Kaleeb
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Posted - 2005.12.19 19:42:00 -
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Originally by: BlackDog Rackh'am
and an ex-[5] pilot backed up my assumptions.
That be me 
Anyway whoever said on the last page that it was shinra and suprem fighting in cache are wrong, I was there for the entire time it went like this :
Shinra and ATUK started it, then ATUK went on holiday in the north.
Shinra had to fall back as they were massively outnumbered.
M.corp moves to cache and with help from Shinra take all of Cache
Bos/Suprem/Re1gn join in to help keep the area
Atuk come back to help
5 withdraw as the pos war becomes impossible to fight.
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Omeega
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Posted - 2005.12.19 20:22:00 -
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Edited by: Omeega on 19/12/2005 20:25:55 Edited by: Omeega on 19/12/2005 20:24:17
Originally by: Kaleeb
Originally by: BlackDog Rackh'am
and an ex-[5] pilot backed up my assumptions.
That be me 
Anyway whoever said on the last page that it was shinra and suprem fighting in cache are wrong, I was there for the entire time it went like this :
Shinra and ATUK started it, then ATUK went on holiday in the north.
Shinra had to fall back as they were massively outnumbered.
M.corp moves to cache and with help from Shinra take all of Cache
Bos/Suprem/Re1gn join in to help keep the area
Atuk come back to help
5 withdraw as the pos war becomes impossible to fight.
no.
1) shinra tries. fails. 2) mcorp comes in (not alone, with UK corp) - this gives them huge numbers 3) they start puting POS in cache so we can't take stations back 4) we get 20ppl fleet in. Shinra/Mcorp/UKCorp call ATUK for help -> 20 vs 60 aka "WE NOT BLOB" 5) [5] cries on forums how RA members go to sleep at 11pm eve time aka... 02am moscow time. 6) we start puting POSes to get cache back 7) shinra puts POS (props to that guy btw, he had some determination ;) ) 8) Mcorp puts POS 9) UKcorp puts POS 10) We retake stations 11) [5] cries about POS wars
AHE? POS WARS?!?!?!? EBIL RUSSIANS!!!! 
So please, stop with the POS thing. Determination is what you lacked.
edit #2 - kal i just saw your post wasn't a flame at all. sorry. Still this is what i think about RA/[5] conflict in cache. We had some good fights and good chats. But that's something you seem not to remember.
Don't speak english. F1,f2,f3...
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Vince Draken
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Posted - 2005.12.19 20:27:00 -
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Originally by: Omeega Edited by: Omeega on 19/12/2005 20:25:55 Edited by: Omeega on 19/12/2005 20:24:17
Originally by: Kaleeb
Originally by: BlackDog Rackh'am
and an ex-[5] pilot backed up my assumptions.
That be me 
Anyway whoever said on the last page that it was shinra and suprem fighting in cache are wrong, I was there for the entire time it went like this :
Shinra and ATUK started it, then ATUK went on holiday in the north.
Shinra had to fall back as they were massively outnumbered.
M.corp moves to cache and with help from Shinra take all of Cache
Bos/Suprem/Re1gn join in to help keep the area
Atuk come back to help
5 withdraw as the pos war becomes impossible to fight.
no.
1) shinra tries. fails. 2) mcorp comes in (not alone, with UK corp) - this gives them huge numbers 3) they start puting POS in cache so we can't take stations back 4) we get 20ppl fleet in. Shinra/Mcorp/UKCorp call ATUK for help -> 20 vs 60 aka "WE NOT BLOB" 5) [5] cries on forums how RA members go to sleep at 11pm eve time aka... 02am moscow time. 6) we start puting POSes to get cache back 7) shinra puts POS (props to that guy btw, he had some determination ;) ) 8) Mcorp puts POS 9) UKcorp puts POS 10) We retake stations 11) [5] cries about POS wars
AHE? POS WARS?!?!?!? EBIL RUSSIANS!!!! 
So please, stop with the POS thing. Determination is what you lacked.
edit #2 - kal i just saw your post wasn't a flame at all. sorry. Still this is what i think about RA/[5] conflict in cache. We had some good fights and good chats. But that's something you seem not to remember.
Nice selective memory you have going on there.
I cba to argue about it as its old news. But, you are far from right.
The above thoughts and statements are IC and should be taken as such. |

Omeega
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Posted - 2005.12.19 20:32:00 -
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Originally by: Vince Draken
Nice selective memory you have going on there.
I cba to argue about it as its old news. But, you are far from right.
ahhhhh. nevermind then.
Don't speak english. F1,f2,f3...
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Kaleeb
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Posted - 2005.12.19 20:37:00 -
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Hehe no worries omeega we will both have a different idea of events, both alittle bias :)
Uk corp i didnt mention, but they came after m.corp had taken back cache as part of the population plan.
Props to RA over that campaign you had a dogged determination , would have been interesting to see what would happen if pos wars were different and the 5 had been more group orientated.
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Omeega
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Posted - 2005.12.19 20:44:00 -
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Originally by: Kaleeb Hehe no worries omeega we will both have a different idea of events, both alittle bias :)
Uk corp i didnt mention, but they came after m.corp had taken back cache as part of the population plan.
Props to RA over that campaign you had a dogged determination , would have been interesting to see what would happen if pos wars were different and the 5 had been more group orientated.
well - nothing different. the one who can't access this forums can't lose against [5].
Also we were active after DT. At this time you were all at work school ...
When you got big gangs in the evening we were all asleep. I'd say timezones war. But still, that's my own point of view.
Don't speak english. F1,f2,f3...
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Darcuese
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Posted - 2005.12.19 20:55:00 -
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Here we go again...have we enter twighlight zone and come back in to past? DT was really interesting thing during those wars [ 2005.12.13 23:48:43 ]--Pilot from north:"we dont want to fight due to server crash and we want a fiar fight with you guys, just dont jump in" |

Guderian
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Posted - 2005.12.19 21:04:00 -
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Originally by: Omeega no.
1) shinra tries. fails. 2) mcorp comes in (not alone, with UK corp) - this gives them huge numbers 3) they start puting POS in cache so we can't take stations back 4) we get 20ppl fleet in. Shinra/Mcorp/UKCorp call ATUK for help -> 20 vs 60 aka "WE NOT BLOB" 5) [5] cries on forums how RA members go to sleep at 11pm eve time aka... 02am moscow time. 6) we start puting POSes to get cache back 7) shinra puts POS (props to that guy btw, he had some determination ;) ) 8) Mcorp puts POS 9) UKcorp puts POS 10) We retake stations 11) [5] cries about POS wars
AHE? POS WARS?!?!?!? EBIL RUSSIANS!!!! 
So please, stop with the POS thing. Determination is what you lacked.
edit #2 - kal i just saw your post wasn't a flame at all. sorry. Still this is what i think about RA/[5] conflict in cache. We had some good fights and good chats. But that's something you seem not to remember.
NO!
1) [5] takes cache in a rush. 2) Shinra stays and quickly gets outnumbered and out pos'ed. 3) Shinra gets help from M.corp in Cache and manage to retake cache, reducing RA in cache to the npc'ers/alts in the 10/10 complex and some miners in a dead end system. 4) There is alot of good fights around Konora!! :D 5) RA/RAT launches a attack on immensea (probably trying to take some of the heat off Cache) 6) Good battles are fought in Immensea, some won by RA/RAT (props to them), some won by [5] !!! :D 7) Shinra tries to retaliate the pos war, but can't fight 20+ pos's put up before downtime on a daily basis. 8) [5] decides that a war fought with anchoring skills and pos's is worthless and decides to not fight the pos war anymore.
"Blessed is he, who walks through life in ignorance, 'cause he does not know the dangers that lies beyond." |

Vince Draken
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Posted - 2005.12.19 21:45:00 -
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Originally by: Guderian Edited by: Guderian on 19/12/2005 21:13:24
Originally by: Omeega no.
1) shinra tries. fails. 2) mcorp comes in (not alone, with UK corp) - this gives them huge numbers 3) they start puting POS in cache so we can't take stations back 4) we get 20ppl fleet in. Shinra/Mcorp/UKCorp call ATUK for help -> 20 vs 60 aka "WE NOT BLOB" 5) [5] cries on forums how RA members go to sleep at 11pm eve time aka... 02am moscow time. 6) we start puting POSes to get cache back 7) shinra puts POS (props to that guy btw, he had some determination ;) ) 8) Mcorp puts POS 9) UKcorp puts POS 10) We retake stations 11) [5] cries about POS wars
AHE? POS WARS?!?!?!? EBIL RUSSIANS!!!! 
So please, stop with the POS thing. Determination is what you lacked.
edit #2 - kal i just saw your post wasn't a flame at all. sorry. Still this is what i think about RA/[5] conflict in cache. We had some good fights and good chats. But that's something you seem not to remember.
NO!
1) [5] takes cache in a rush. 2) Shinra stays and quickly gets outnumbered and out pos'ed. 3) Shinra gets help from M.corp in Cache and manage to retake cache, reducing RA in cache to the npc'ers/alts in the 10/10 complex and some miners in a dead end system. 4) There is alot of good fights around Konora!! :D 5) RA/RAT launches a attack on immensea (probably trying to take some of the heat off Cache) 6) Good battles are fought in Immensea, some won by RA/RAT (props to them), some won by [5] !!! :D 7) Shinra tries to retaliate the pos war, but can't fight 20+ pos's put up before downtime on a daily basis. 8) [5] decides that a war fought with anchoring skills and pos's is worthless and decides to not fight the pos war anymore.
EDIT: Ohh, almost forgot: 1.5) RA complains and even cries on the forum claiming [5] has GM's in their ranks and are manipulating with their pos's, ammo and ship modules.
/signed
That is how it went. I still got a copy of that official RA letter to CCP
The above thoughts and statements are IC and should be taken as such. |

Omeega
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Posted - 2005.12.19 21:48:00 -
[139]
Originally by: Vince Draken
/signed
That is how it went. I still got a copy of that official RA letter to CCP
LEMME GUESS!!!
you read it everynight before going to sleep?
Don't speak english. F1,f2,f3...
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Profess0r Mansechs0r
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Posted - 2005.12.19 21:58:00 -
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Originally by: Omeega
Originally by: Vince Draken
/signed
That is how it went. I still got a copy of that official RA letter to CCP
LEMME GUESS!!!
you read it everynight before going to sleep?
5 members can't read           Private lessons? |

anister
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Posted - 2005.12.19 22:06:00 -
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Originally by: Profess0r Mansechs0r
Originally by: Omeega
Originally by: Vince Draken
/signed
That is how it went. I still got a copy of that official RA letter to CCP
LEMME GUESS!!!
you read it everynight before going to sleep?
5 members can't read          
What did he say? ___
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Vince Draken
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Posted - 2005.12.19 22:13:00 -
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Originally by: Omeega
Originally by: Vince Draken
/signed
That is how it went. I still got a copy of that official RA letter to CCP
LEMME GUESS!!!
you read it everynight before going to sleep?
I just cba to type a longwinded to reply to your selective memory.
I'm busy answering petitons and unstucking ppl.
The above thoughts and statements are IC and should be taken as such. |

Skape Gote
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Posted - 2005.12.19 23:28:00 -
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Originally by: Vince Draken
Originally by: Omeega
Originally by: Vince Draken
/signed
That is how it went. I still got a copy of that official RA letter to CCP
LEMME GUESS!!!
you read it everynight before going to sleep?
I just cba to type a longwinded to reply to your selective memory.
I'm busy answering petitons and unstucking ppl.
Can you take away all FE's ammo and weapons etc please as the forums were highly amusing the last time that happened. Also can you make it so that I can have every ship Ive lost back.
Thx in advance. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Guess I picked the wrong week to quit sniffing glue...... |

Ituralde
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Posted - 2005.12.20 03:10:00 -
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Originally by: Skape Gote
Originally by: Vince Draken
Originally by: Omeega
Originally by: Vince Draken
/signed
That is how it went. I still got a copy of that official RA letter to CCP
LEMME GUESS!!!
you read it everynight before going to sleep?
I just cba to type a longwinded to reply to your selective memory.
I'm busy answering petitons and unstucking ppl.
Can you take away all FE's ammo and weapons etc please as the forums were highly amusing the last time that happened. Also can you make it so that I can have every ship Ive lost back.
Thx in advance.
No, that's not possible. We only equip mining lasers, remember?
Though you have the gms take my mining crystals.... ooh... that would be a low blow...
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The Cursed
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Posted - 2005.12.20 06:18:00 -
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Originally by: Darcuese Ok. To clarify some things. If you take starting post as creative goodby post and you see all responses by ppl from other alliances...you will see there werent any smacking at all...
UNTILL :
Originally by: The Cursed If you call killing miners and ratters in FE space defeating the enemy. You guys win hands down. Please no dont kill the guys not fighting for there alliance. Make it stop NNNNOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!.
After this one it all went to hell.
So , please, do try to read the thread more then few posts so you can judge someone for smacking or not. In this as in many others threads some ppl/kids jump in and start B u l l >product that come from part of human budy that smell but its not your mouth< ING.
We might keep quiet...but then it wouldnt be that interesting .
Don't worry guy your gonna get plenty more of this. I'm just getting warmed up for my return to the game. 2 weeks and counting. I know you all missed me. Member of GODS!! Beer em Good!!!!!!!
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The Cursed
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Posted - 2005.12.20 06:22:00 -
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Originally by: Kcel Chim
Originally by: Pehova Mindtriq
Originally by: BlackDog Rackh'am
Short version is that the only way to remove atuk is kill their fun factor,which in turn involves doing boring stuff ourselves,like camping them 24/7 with a bigger blob.
Hiding is a better tactic if you want to bore the enemy. But i doubt any leader with atleast a tiny bit of pride would order their members to hide just to get rid of the enemy.
FA did ^^
As for FE, if you would fight as much as you smack you might win a fleetbattle once in awhile or offer some serious fighting. You might fuel those members not playing the game into thinking how much you rock and own, sadly as soon as you connect to tq this wishfull thinking just pops like the dreambubbles youre spilling here so freely on the forums.
FE lost a good handfull of corps and recruited a good handfull to keep your numbers at hand. 5 lost 2 corps and some single members. We didnt recruit tho. You might blind joe.forumreader with that but we both and basically everyone in your alliance knows the truth, especially if u ask us to present your desperate cries for more ships when Atuk "outblobs" you (a whole alliance) in completely remote systems like d7, wh, imk (right they are unimporatant) or when we move our dreads freely or when we jump just with 1 scout in a system to see everyone run for the station or ss (ironically i didnt even have a fleet behind me and was just trying make my way to hpa).
On the otherhand u will prolly start to call me a liar and those things deluted. Im sure we will get logs or screenshots to prove the points, be it now or in a week, as we are going to stay.
Like in all wars you always lose the weaker corps who dont want to fight. But since your such a newb to this you probly havn't figured that out yet. Member of GODS!! Beer em Good!!!!!!!
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Darken Two
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Posted - 2005.12.20 06:41:00 -
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OMG All you guys need to shut the feck up. What is this, the smack-battle to determine whos the biggest smack-alliance of them all? Can I be Eminem 
Originally by: Blind Fear Generally, when trying to be a puppetmaster, it is considered good form not to wrap the strings around your neck and choke yourself.
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KIATolon
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Posted - 2005.12.20 09:35:00 -
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Quote: Like in all wars you always lose the weaker corps who dont want to fight. But since your such a newb to this you probly havn't figured that out yet.
Wasn't that what the original post said?
GL to Shinra and M.Corp
BOS left the 5 last week, and atuk are joining Big Blue to haul POS fuel for them. Any more questions?
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Kcel Chim
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Posted - 2005.12.20 09:51:00 -
[149]
Originally by: The Cursed
Like in all wars you always lose the weaker corps who dont want to fight. But since your such a newb to this you probly havn't figured that out yet.
Eh so if you lose corps its "the weaker corps always leave, we are fine" and if your opposition loses corps its "important core corps have left, youre doomed", ok i see where ure coming from. 
As for the newb comment, maybe u should drop such comments till ure back from iraq before you talk all big on the forums and flame ppl based on facts youve managed to get told by 3rd hand sources at best. Only makes you look like a retard if u arent actually playing, spouting crap and insulting ppl.
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Mangus Thermopyle
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Posted - 2005.12.20 10:45:00 -
[150]
As far as I know, the only PvP corp we lost was Spieces, and they joined after the war had started so they dont really count. Memberwise I doubt we have lost much if anything (the numbers at the alliance page seems to be incorrect, so I dont know how to check).
Buttom line: ATUKs cannon of internal problems certainly hasnt hit us so far. If anything, it has hit their own alliance 
Originally by: Tholarim And i don't mind being dispised.
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