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Lunas Feelgood	Posted - 2005.12.20 11:01:00 - [151] Some1 lock this thread is an embaresment for the forums..And you people should just get a room and get it over with.
Kaleeb	Posted - 2005.12.20 11:03:00 - [152] Edited by: Kaleeb on 20/12/2005 11:03:25 Originally by: Mangus Thermopyle As far as I know, the only PvP corp we lost was Spieces, and they joined after the war had started so they dont really count. Memberwise I doubt we have lost much if anything (the numbers at the alliance page seems to be incorrect, so I dont know how to check). Buttom line: ATUKs cannon of internal problems certainly hasnt hit us so far. If anything, it has hit their own alliance Mate you should see the ammount of mails about corps leaving we recieved when I was in 5. Fair enough you might not think them relevant or important and you have recruited many more corps in to keep up numbers. But facts cannot be denied a large ammount of corps/people have left the northern alliances over the course of this war. Its just the same as M. and Shinra leaving except it looks worse on the 5 as it was comprised of only a few large corps and is unlikely to recruit others.
thoth foc	Posted - 2005.12.20 11:03:00 - [153] Originally by: Mangus Thermopyle Buttom line: ATUKs cannon of internal problems certainly hasnt hit us so far. If anything, it has hit their own alliance Actually i would maintain that a 2000 man alliance unable to match a 300 man corp has major problems, and i know i'd blame them interally --thoth [5], ex-Curse Alliance ex-DSMA
Naphtalia	Posted - 2005.12.20 11:14:00 - [154] Let's get back on topic.... So BOS, can you come visit us we want cool people to fight!!! Example of a day in the lives of F-E: F-E pilot is bored so decides he doesn't care if he loses a ship... he got no backup... He jumps to 9-2 and sits on the H-PA gate waiting for ATUK to come back from their miner-hunting mission. covert ops reports 9-2 gate in h-pa is clear... <<all good, all good>> 1 ATUK enters local... Interesting... (30sec later) another ATUK enters local... ok :) this can become fun.. F-E pilot loads his assualt launcher II's on his Caracal. 30 sec later third ATUK enters local.... F-E pilot: Well I have done 1v10's before lets just hope it isn't 3 HACS against my 1 itty bitty cruiser. 20 seconds later: 3 Ships enter longrange scan radius... Vigil, Taranis, Zealot... F-E pilot: Tricky, but lets give it a shot... maybe I can get some kills and then retreat from the zealot... yarr... Covert ops in H-PA: 9-2 gate is still clear you can go for it. 3 ATUK drop out of warp on top of the F-E Caracal... YARRR... F-E pilot: locks vigil, locks taranis, locks zealot.. ATUK pilots: ((seemingly wait for F-E pilot to aggro)) F-E pilot braces himself and activates guns... (( you cannot lock vigil because it left system 1seconds ago )) F-E pilot: well I guess the vigil pilot goes and checks for a trap... lets go for the tranny then (( you cannot lock taranis because it left system 1seconds ago )) F-E pilot: Ah, I get it.. now the Zealot will agress me, force me to jump and I will get jumped on the other side... fun fun fun... F-E pilot waits for 20 seconds for the Zealot to agress... F-E pilot gives up... and warps away desillusioned. Names ommited to not name and shame the involved... but BOS, I know you would have tried and wtfpwn this caracal and probably succeeded... can you please come!!! we miss you!
ZedLey	Posted - 2005.12.20 11:29:00 - [155] Theres always 2 sides of a story Napth
Naphtalia	Posted - 2005.12.20 11:53:00 - [156] Edited by: Naphtalia on 20/12/2005 11:54:53 Originally by: ZedLey Theres always 2 sides of a story Napth Of course... but.. finding a cruiser on a gate with 2 tacklers and a HAC is a guaranteed kill, especially with a rax @ station and no backup (25 ATUK and 1 F-E cloaker in H-PA) the pilot was totally shocked he came out of that one alive. And he would have been really disapointed if he didn't take one down with him. But there are not many corps that would leave that cruiser alone for whatever reason. (RL issues aside such as having to go to bed etc.) I am intrigued though what the story is in this case :) But lets stay on topic... BOS? edited to omit pilotnames
Mangus Thermopyle	Posted - 2005.12.20 12:01:00 - [157] Originally by: Kaleeb Edited by: Kaleeb on 20/12/2005 11:03:25 Originally by: Mangus Thermopyle As far as I know, the only PvP corp we lost was Spieces, and they joined after the war had started so they dont really count. Memberwise I doubt we have lost much if anything (the numbers at the alliance page seems to be incorrect, so I dont know how to check). Buttom line: ATUKs cannon of internal problems certainly hasnt hit us so far. If anything, it has hit their own alliance Mate you should see the ammount of mails about corps leaving we recieved when I was in 5. Fair enough you might not think them relevant or important and you have recruited many more corps in to keep up numbers. But facts cannot be denied a large ammount of corps/people have left the northern alliances over the course of this war. Its just the same as M. and Shinra leaving except it looks worse on the 5 as it was comprised of only a few large corps and is unlikely to recruit others. I am speaking our F-E, not PA and NBSI who had some problems with RISK/FoE earlier on in this war. I dont know the numbers or anything, but from what I heard they had some corps leaving them. And toth: we dont have any problems with your corp. In fact, we hardly notice you most nights (like yesterday for example). Its just you guys who likes to think that you cause mayhem wherever you go (which is true in a sense, but the mayhem seem to hit your own alliance instead of ours). So far, atuk has helped us to make 500 members leave Five, so if anything you are our friends, not the enemy Originally by: Tholarim And i don't mind being dispised.
Darcuese	Posted - 2005.12.20 12:03:00 - [158] Edited by: Darcuese on 20/12/2005 12:04:29 Originally by: Naphtalia Let's get back on topic.... So BOS, can you come visit us we want cool people to fight!!! Example of a day in the lives of F-E: F-E pilot is bored so decides he doesn't care if he loses a ship... he got no backup... He jumps to 9-2 and sits on the H-PA gate waiting for ATUK to come back from their miner-hunting mission. covert ops reports 9-2 gate in h-pa is clear... <<all good, all good>> 1 ATUK enters local... Interesting... (30sec later) another ATUK enters local... ok :) this can become fun.. F-E pilot loads his assualt launcher II's on his Caracal. 30 sec later third ATUK enters local.... F-E pilot: Well I have done 1v10's before lets just hope it isn't 3 HACS against my 1 itty bitty cruiser. 20 seconds later: 3 Ships enter longrange scan radius... Vigil, Taranis, Zealot... F-E pilot: Tricky, but lets give it a shot... maybe I can get some kills and then retreat from the zealot... yarr... Covert ops in H-PA: 9-2 gate is still clear you can go for it. 3 ATUK drop out of warp on top of the F-E Caracal... YARRR... F-E pilot: locks vigil, locks taranis, locks zealot.. ATUK pilots: ((seemingly wait for F-E pilot to aggro)) F-E pilot braces himself and activates guns... (( you cannot lock vigil because it left system 1seconds ago )) F-E pilot: well I guess the vigil pilot goes and checks for a trap... lets go for the tranny then (( you cannot lock taranis because it left system 1seconds ago )) F-E pilot: Ah, I get it.. now the Zealot will agress me, force me to jump and I will get jumped on the other side... fun fun fun... F-E pilot waits for 20 seconds for the Zealot to agress... F-E pilot gives up... and warps away desillusioned. Names ommited to not name and shame the involved... but BOS, I know you would have tried and wtfpwn this caracal and probably succeeded... can you please come!!! we miss you! WTF?..I read back few pages just to see what was the purpose of this Nath Post. Conclusion- Why were you bothering to write that is beyond me, what is it you want to share with us with that post is beyond me, are you one of "respectable" FE pilots?...Cause I really dont know political background-...but no matter. I have posted crap that ppl didnt get, but reason behgind this post in this thread are out of this world me think BTW, Can you send your replacement in H-Pa...cause it become to boring reading and listening you, tbh [ 2005.12.13 23:48:43 ]--Pilot from north:"we dont want to fight due to server crash and we want a fiar fight with you guys, just dont jump in"
ZedLey	Posted - 2005.12.20 12:06:00 - [159] Originally by: Mangus Thermopyle Originally by: Kaleeb Edited by: Kaleeb on 20/12/2005 11:03:25 Originally by: Mangus Thermopyle As far as I know, the only PvP corp we lost was Spieces, and they joined after the war had started so they dont really count. Memberwise I doubt we have lost much if anything (the numbers at the alliance page seems to be incorrect, so I dont know how to check). Buttom line: ATUKs cannon of internal problems certainly hasnt hit us so far. If anything, it has hit their own alliance Mate you should see the ammount of mails about corps leaving we recieved when I was in 5. Fair enough you might not think them relevant or important and you have recruited many more corps in to keep up numbers. But facts cannot be denied a large ammount of corps/people have left the northern alliances over the course of this war. Its just the same as M. and Shinra leaving except it looks worse on the 5 as it was comprised of only a few large corps and is unlikely to recruit others. I am speaking our F-E, not PA and NBSI who had some problems with RISK/FoE earlier on in this war. I dont know the numbers or anything, but from what I heard they had some corps leaving them. And toth: we dont have any problems with your corp. In fact, we hardly notice you most nights (like yesterday for example). Its just you guys who likes to think that you cause mayhem wherever you go (which is true in a sense, but the mayhem seem to hit your own alliance instead of ours). So far, atuk has helped us to make 500 members leave Five, so if anything you are our friends, not the enemy It is funny how big you talk on forums. PA/NBSI/F-E war decced us. But you ended up on defensive and we on ofensive. So if you war decced us why arent you coming after us everyday in gangs/fleets? F-E never brings it (Exept for HUN thorax's)
Darken Two	Posted - 2005.12.20 12:07:00 - [160] Originally by: Darcuese Edited by: Darcuese on 20/12/2005 12:04:29 Originally by: Naphtalia Let's get back on topic.... So BOS, can you come visit us we want cool people to fight!!! Example of a day in the lives of F-E: F-E pilot is bored so decides he doesn't care if he loses a ship... he got no backup... He jumps to 9-2 and sits on the H-PA gate waiting for ATUK to come back from their miner-hunting mission. covert ops reports 9-2 gate in h-pa is clear... <<all good, all good>> 1 ATUK enters local... Interesting... (30sec later) another ATUK enters local... ok :) this can become fun.. F-E pilot loads his assualt launcher II's on his Caracal. 30 sec later third ATUK enters local.... F-E pilot: Well I have done 1v10's before lets just hope it isn't 3 HACS against my 1 itty bitty cruiser. 20 seconds later: 3 Ships enter longrange scan radius... Vigil, Taranis, Zealot... F-E pilot: Tricky, but lets give it a shot... maybe I can get some kills and then retreat from the zealot... yarr... Covert ops in H-PA: 9-2 gate is still clear you can go for it. 3 ATUK drop out of warp on top of the F-E Caracal... YARRR... F-E pilot: locks vigil, locks taranis, locks zealot.. ATUK pilots: ((seemingly wait for F-E pilot to aggro)) F-E pilot braces himself and activates guns... (( you cannot lock vigil because it left system 1seconds ago )) F-E pilot: well I guess the vigil pilot goes and checks for a trap... lets go for the tranny then (( you cannot lock taranis because it left system 1seconds ago )) F-E pilot: Ah, I get it.. now the Zealot will agress me, force me to jump and I will get jumped on the other side... fun fun fun... F-E pilot waits for 20 seconds for the Zealot to agress... F-E pilot gives up... and warps away desillusioned. Names ommited to not name and shame the involved... but BOS, I know you would have tried and wtfpwn this caracal and probably succeeded... can you please come!!! we miss you! WTF?..I read back few pages just to see what was the purpose of this Nath Post. Conclusion- Why were you bothering to write that is beyond me, what is it you want to share with us with that post is beyond me, are you one of "respectable" FE pilots?...Cause I really dont know political background-...but no matter. I have posted crap that ppl didnt get, but reason behgind this post in this thread are out of this world me think BTW, Can you send your replacement in H-Pa...cause it become to boring reading and listening you, tbh The point I would think, is to give a small example of why we think ATUKs forum warriors are just full of hot air. You're quite effective fighters I'll hand you that but you vastly overestimate the effect you might be having on teh northern alliances. Originally by: Blind Fear Generally, when trying to be a puppetmaster, it is considered good form not to wrap the strings around your neck and choke yourself.

Antoinette Civari	Posted - 2005.12.20 12:09:00 - [161] Originally by: Naphtalia Edited by: Naphtalia on 20/12/2005 11:54:53 Originally by: ZedLey Theres always 2 sides of a story Napth Of course... but.. finding a cruiser on a gate with 2 tacklers and a HAC is a guaranteed kill, especially with a rax @ station and no backup (25 ATUK and 1 F-E cloaker in H-PA) the pilot was totally shocked he came out of that one alive. And he would have been really disapointed if he didn't take one down with him. But there are not many corps that would leave that cruiser alone for whatever reason. (RL issues aside such as having to go to bed etc.) I am intrigued though what the story is in this case :) But lets stay on topic... BOS? edited to omit pilotnames err, you obviously love us very much Naph o0 stay patient -.-
ZedLey	Posted - 2005.12.20 12:10:00 - [162] Originally by: Darken Two The point I would think, is to give a small example of why we think ATUKs forum warriors are just full of hot air. You're quite effective fighters I'll hand you that but you vastly overestimate the effect you might be having on teh northern alliances. Same thing can be sayd about you. "hot air" like Magnus's posts. All F-E members telling the different story.
Naphtalia	Posted - 2005.12.20 12:11:00 - [163] Originally by: Darcuese BTW, Can you send your replacement in H-Pa...cause it become to boring reading and listening you, tbh Lol <3 Darcuese Nah I will always be in a system with you (unless I cba to chase you lot to d7) To BOS: no sarcasm intended, I have the greatest respect for your fighters and loved it when you lived in molden heath/great wildlands/curse.. I miss you lot! To ATUK: what does one have to do to be properly smacktalked by you lot ;) I was expecting way more smacky responses than the ones I got thusfar :)
Darken Two	Posted - 2005.12.20 12:16:00 - [164] Originally by: ZedLey Originally by: Darken Two The point I would think, is to give a small example of why we think ATUKs forum warriors are just full of hot air. You're quite effective fighters I'll hand you that but you vastly overestimate the effect you might be having on teh northern alliances. Same thing can be sayd about you. "hot air" like Magnus's posts. All F-E members telling the different story. Perhaps I should point out that I didnt say all the 5 were spouting nonsense. And please dont talk about consistency considering the 5 arent particularly consistent either. Originally by: Blind Fear Generally, when trying to be a puppetmaster, it is considered good form not to wrap the strings around your neck and choke yourself.
Naphtalia	Posted - 2005.12.20 12:19:00 - [165] darken, lets stay civil and on topic.. we are discussing why shinra/m.corp left .5. and when BOS is coming to h-pa to help .5. get propper fights.
Darcuese	Posted - 2005.12.20 12:22:00 - [166] Edited by: Darcuese on 20/12/2005 12:22:46 Originally by: Naphtalia To ATUK: what does one have to do to be properly smacktalked by you lot ;) I was expecting way more smacky responses than the ones I got thusfar :) Its not our fault that our posts are funnier reading then yours...I mean its not our fault that your posts are boring. I guess thats why so many threads about 5. Originally by: Naphtalia darken, lets stay civil and on topic.. we are discussing why shinra/m.corp left .5. and when BOS is coming to h-pa to help .5. get propper fights. Was that what you tried to tell us in previous posts? thank you for enlighten me [ 2005.12.13 23:48:43 ]--Pilot from north:"we dont want to fight due to server crash and we want a fiar fight with you guys, just dont jump in"
thoth foc	Posted - 2005.12.20 12:26:00 - [167] Originally by: Darken Two The point I would think, is to give a small example of why we think ATUKs forum warriors are just full of hot air. You're quite effective fighters I'll hand you that but you vastly overestimate the effect you might be having on teh northern alliances. ok d2.. lets give example of the northern alliances.. a few days ago we saw a blob on the map between branch and Dek, we formed a fleet to investigate.. F-E: on the way we jumped into a system with an F-E fleet, it wasnt on jumpin, so we warped to jumpout, it wasnt on jumpout so guessing they had SS'd already we started jumping through.. as the last of our guys jumped through they reported the F-E had arrived at the gate, the FC gave the command to stay and prepare for a fight.. we waited... waited.. waited.. no F-E jumping in.. we sent a scout back through.. shock surprise the MLM/F-E gang had ran already.. PA: so we proceeded to destination and jumped in on an equally sized PA gang.. the PA gang SS'd and logged.. no question atuk are active on the forums.. but the difference is we "bring it" ingame too.. btw nat.. BOS wasnt the topic of the thread either :) --thoth [5], ex-Curse Alliance ex-DSMA
Darcuese	Posted - 2005.12.20 12:29:00 - [168] Edited by: Darcuese on 20/12/2005 12:29:52 Originally by: thoth foc .. no question atuk are active on the forums.. but the difference is we "bring it" ingame too.. btw nat.. BOS wasnt the topic of the thread either :) hehe. You know that you probably started next story telling from battlefield [ 2005.12.13 23:48:43 ]--Pilot from north:"we dont want to fight due to server crash and we want a fiar fight with you guys, just dont jump in"
Darken Two	Posted - 2005.12.20 12:36:00 - [169] Originally by: thoth foc Originally by: Darken Two The point I would think, is to give a small example of why we think ATUKs forum warriors are just full of hot air. You're quite effective fighters I'll hand you that but you vastly overestimate the effect you might be having on teh northern alliances. ok d2.. lets give example of the northern alliances.. a few days ago we saw a blob on the map between branch and Dek, we formed a fleet to investigate.. F-E: on the way we jumped into a system with an F-E fleet, it wasnt on jumpin, so we warped to jumpout, it wasnt on jumpout so guessing they had SS'd already we started jumping through.. as the last of our guys jumped through they reported the F-E had arrived at the gate, the FC gave the command to stay and prepare for a fight.. we waited... waited.. waited.. no F-E jumping in.. we sent a scout back through.. shock surprise the MLM/F-E gang had ran already.. PA: so we proceeded to destination and jumped in on an equally sized PA gang.. the PA gang SS'd and logged.. no question atuk are active on the forums.. but the difference is we "bring it" ingame too.. btw nat.. BOS wasnt the topic of the thread either :) Fair nuff Thoth, but I think the same thing happened to us yesterday when your fleet came to tribute. Originally by: Blind Fear Generally, when trying to be a puppetmaster, it is considered good form not to wrap the strings around your neck and choke yourself.
thoth foc	Posted - 2005.12.20 12:36:00 - [170] Originally by: Darcuese hehe. You know that you probably started next story telling from battlefield unlikely.. if nat's "omg i ran away in a t1 cruiser" is the best they can manage.. well lets face it.. t1 cruiser OMG what a high priority target.. --thoth [5], ex-Curse Alliance ex-DSMA

thoth foc	Posted - 2005.12.20 12:40:00 - [171] Edited by: thoth foc on 20/12/2005 12:44:12 Originally by: Darken Two Fair nuff Thoth, but I think the same thing happened to us yesterday when your fleet came to tribute. when? i was in a fleet in tribute last nite.. and when we arrived the HUN gang and the ROA gangs suddenly developed pressing business in their stations.. edit: it's a pity copy and paste isnt working btw.. was a great bit in h-w last nite.. some wanted to put it in their bio's.. an F-E guy says.. "atuk are like my xGF.. i like to fight with them both" at which point he warped to the d7 gate in a tristan, looted some F-E guys can we'd shot, and warped off.. i know he was sending a chill down my back --thoth [5], ex-Curse Alliance ex-DSMA
Naphtalia	Posted - 2005.12.20 12:46:00 - [172] Originally by: thoth foc btw nat.. BOS wasnt the topic of the thread either :) lies! We are talking about mcorp/shinra leaving and BOS joining up in Tribute!
Naphtalia	Posted - 2005.12.20 12:52:00 - [173] Originally by: thoth foc "omg i ran away in a t1 cruiser" lets face it.. t1 cruiser OMG what a high priority target.. Nice twist Thoth ;) I expected worse smack though Sniping a shuttle is a high ennough priority target... The story wasn't about the Caracal disengaging after 1 minute because battleships started to undock but about Zealot and Vigil and Taranis being utterly stunned at the gate not knowing how to force an engagement with a t1 cruiser and letting it go after a minute. Actually it wasn't even about that... The story was there to illustrate the difference between BOS who would have killed that cruiser and ATUK who didn't.... for whatever reason (fear of losing a vigil, other pressing matters, RL issues)
Darcuese	Posted - 2005.12.20 12:57:00 - [174] Yes, you are right...we lost faith in ourself and our bones are filled with fear. We poorly pilots has lost our reasources and no more ships are spendable as losses. Poor little vigil , what a pain he might cause. To mine whole week after, could I get one more? [ 2005.12.13 23:48:43 ]--Pilot from north:"we dont want to fight due to server crash and we want a fiar fight with you guys, just dont jump in".
Omeega	Posted - 2005.12.20 13:00:00 - [175] Originally by: Darcuese Yes, you are right...we lost faith in ourself and our bones are filled with fear. We poorly pilots has lost our reasources and no more ships are spendable as losses. Poor little vigil , what a pain he might cause. To mine whole week after, could I get one more? darc you should take away your <F5> key. would help you a lot. I had to talk about this with a professionnal (aka Hast) and imho he helped me a lot... Don't speak english. F1,f2,f3...
Darcuese	Posted - 2005.12.20 13:20:00 - [176] Edited by: Darcuese on 20/12/2005 13:23:01 Originally by: Omeega Originally by: Darcuese Yes, you are right...we lost faith in ourself and our bones are filled with fear. We poorly pilots has lost our reasources and no more ships are spendable as losses. Poor little vigil , what a pain he might cause. To mine whole week after, could I get one more? darc you should take away your <F5> key. would help you a lot. I had to talk about this with a professionnal (aka Hast) and imho he helped me a lot... Lol..beliave it or not I only now realised what F5 key is for. Oh, thank you, thank you, thank you. To Parity guy above me...no more patiance for me to hold this, so here i go...most of you guys s.u.c.k. in space, greather majority s.u.c.k on forum and I bet my a.s.s. that if there would be party competition by alliances, guess whose would be the best [ 2005.12.13 23:48:43 ]--Pilot from north:"we dont want to fight due to server crash and we want a fiar fight with you guys, just dont jump in".
Parity	Posted - 2005.12.20 13:20:00 - [177] All i c in this topic is 5 trying to win the war by talking on forums and trying to prove us here that they are holding venal... Reality is that they are holding H-PA in euro timezone and they are forming gangs squads for easy kills during the day travel to d7- and when the f-e forms equal fleet size or more they are returning to h-pa and chill out there bored to death... Im so bored to c the eve forums every day with 5 propaganda that they are winning and they are better than 2000 member alliance like f-e and such stuff that they know its not true... Get a Clue 5 like that u will never win the war ur peeps will be bored locked in h-pa and u will lose ur corp (atuk) in the long turn of this... and plz i don't wanna hear here about PA/NBSI smack this is just my opinion about ur tacticks and strategy. -= NBSI 4TW! =-
thoth foc	Posted - 2005.12.20 13:25:00 - [178] Originally by: Naphtalia Nice twist Thoth ;) I expected worse smack though Sniping a shuttle is a high ennough priority target... The story wasn't about the Caracal disengaging after 1 minute because battleships started to undock but about Zealot and Vigil and Taranis being utterly stunned at the gate not knowing how to force an engagement with a t1 cruiser and letting it go after a minute. Actually it wasn't even about that... The story was there to illustrate the difference between BOS who would have killed that cruiser and ATUK who didn't.... for whatever reason (fear of losing a vigil, other pressing matters, RL issues) tbh i have no notion what your trying to say.. a t1 cruiser is low priority in anyone's books.. when i was in BOS we would have killed it if there was no better targets same as we do in atuk, but still not at the exspense of a higher priority.. i really cant imagine that has changed.. can you imagine the scenario.. "OMG we killed a t1 cruiser" "yeah but the freighter u were meant to be trying for got away.. gg" --thoth [5], ex-Curse Alliance ex-DSMA
n1r4	Posted - 2005.12.20 13:27:00 - [179] Originally by: Parity All i c in this topic is 5 trying to win the war by talking on forums and trying to prove us here that they are holding venal... Reality is that they are holding H-PA in euro timezone and they are forming gangs squads for easy kills during the day travel to d7- and when the f-e forms equal fleet size or more they are returning to h-pa and chill out there bored to death... Im so bored to c the eve forums every day with 5 propaganda that they are winning and they are better than 2000 member alliance like f-e and such stuff that they know its not true... Get a Clue 5 like that u will never win the war ur peeps will be bored locked in h-pa and u will lose ur corp (atuk) in the long turn of this... and plz i don't wanna hear here about PA/NBSI smack this is just my opinion about ur tacticks and strategy. That's about the same CA told ATUK... I wonder where CA is
RickJamez	Posted - 2005.12.20 13:44:00 - [180] Originally by: n1r4 That's about the same CA told ATUK... I wonder where CA is The implication there is even funnier than RA wingdings claiming they whooped [5] during the POS war. "Eve Online is one helluva drug..."



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