Originally by: ParMizaN

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i doubt you have the reasons for their departure correct..

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Originally by: Deathwing

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all of you grab ur sanitary napkins, stfu and get back in ur eve kitchens and make me a pie

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Originally by: ParMizaN

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Originally by: Garnerius De'Nugent

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Originally by: ParMizaN

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i doubt you have the reasons for their departure correct..

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I doubt you have a sense of humour.

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Not for these people :)

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Originally by: Garnerius De'Nugent

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Originally by: ParMizaN

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i doubt you have the reasons for their departure correct..

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I doubt you have a sense of humour.

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Originally by: LoxyRider

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Originally by: ParMizaN

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Originally by: Garnerius De'Nugent

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Originally by: ParMizaN

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i .....

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.

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:)

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Originally by: Pehova Mindtriq

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So what does Lotka Volterra mean?

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Originally by: Shai Faetal

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Originally by: LoxyRider

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Originally by: ParMizaN

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Originally by: Garnerius De'Nugent

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Originally by: ParMizaN

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i .....

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.

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:)

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Whisky Tango Foxtrot, loxy did atuk change corp name ?

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Originally by: Pehova Mindtriq

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So what does Lotka Volterra mean?

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Originally by: Drilla

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Edited by: Drilla on 18/12/2005 15:23:06

Originally by: Pehova Mindtriq

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So what does Lotka Volterra mean?

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Google: Explanation

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Originally by: Drilla

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Google: Explanation

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Originally by: Darko1107

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GO SHINRA!

I <3 You now.

(Chowdown still needs work.)

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Originally by: Aegis Osiris

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All I want to know, Elve, is whether your new group is a k limited species, or an r type reproducer?

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Originally by: JimmySav

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The Forsaken Empire, Phoenix
Alliance and the NBSI have been painted as prime targets with the
usual predictions of a rapid demise being bandied about.

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Originally by: The Cursed

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If you call killing miners and ratters in FE space defeating the enemy. You guys win hands down. Please no dont kill the guys not fighting for there alliance. Make it stop NNNNOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!.

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Originally by: pershphanie

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Originally by: JimmySav

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The Forsaken Empire, Phoenix
Alliance and the NBSI have been painted as prime targets with the
usual predictions of a rapid demise being bandied about.

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Yes. Our alliances are the ones dying.

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Originally by: The Cursed

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If you call killing miners and ratters in FE space defeating the enemy. You guys win hands down. Please no dont kill the guys not fighting for there alliance. Make it stop NNNNOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!.

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Originally by: Tholarim

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Originally by: The Cursed

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If you call killing miners and ratters in FE space defeating the enemy. You guys win hands down. Please no dont kill the guys not fighting for there alliance. Make it stop NNNNOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!.

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Like how we're sitting in wh-j atm camping waiting for any of you lot to come and fight us, but nothing spotted so far.

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Originally by: The Cursed

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Everyone stop what your doing. 5 as shown up in a some random system in FE space. We must put are lives on hold and embrace them with beers and a few rounds of grab ass!!!!!!

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Originally by: The Cursed

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Originally by: Tholarim

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Originally by: The Cursed

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If you call killing miners and ratters in FE space defeating the enemy. You guys win hands down. Please no dont kill the guys not fighting for there alliance. Make it stop NNNNOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!.

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Like how we're sitting in wh-j atm camping waiting for any of you lot to come and fight us, but nothing spotted so far.

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Everyone stop what your doing. 5 as shown up in a some random system in FE space. We must put are lives on hold and embrace them with beers and a few rounds of grab ass!!!!!!

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Originally by: The Cursed

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Everyone stop what your doing. 5 as shown up in a some random system in FE space.

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Originally by: Drilla

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Edited by: Drilla on 18/12/2005 15:23:06

Originally by: Pehova Mindtriq

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So what does Lotka Volterra mean?

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Google: Explanation

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Originally by: rowbin hod

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Fragm's Oversized Ego Cannon barely scratches the forums, inflicting omgnoonecares damage.

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Originally by: F'nog

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Originally by: Drilla

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Edited by: Drilla on 18/12/2005 15:23:06

Originally by: Pehova Mindtriq

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So what does Lotka Volterra mean?

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Google: Explanation

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Ow, my brain hurts now.

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Originally by: ATUKs description on Alliance page

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Your Corporation Perfectly Strikes Enemy Alliance, wrecking for Internal Problems.

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Originally by: Tholarim

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And i don't mind being dispised.

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Originally by: Mangus Thermopyle

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F-E still at 2000, Five down to what? 600 compared to 1100 when war started.

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Originally by: thoth foc

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Originally by: Mangus Thermopyle

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F-E still at 2000, Five down to what? 600 compared to 1100 when war started.

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and u still cant form a fleet.. most ppl would be embarassed to be fairing so badly..

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Originally by: JimmySav

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The [5] announce the passing of Shinra and M Corp from [5]
membership, after the rigours of prolonged combat proved too much for
them.

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Originally by: The Cursed

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Edited by: The Cursed on 19/12/2005 08:15:01
Everytime FE forms a fleet to combat you "ADUCKS" Go Ateam and the tools following them like lost puppies. You guys run off and hide in either a safe spot or a station. Your finger is pointing the wrong way when your talking about not fighting. Hell your the ones who needed help from BOB to fight your own war. Good Game noobs.

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Originally by: The Cursed

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Edited by: The Cursed on 19/12/2005 08:15:01
Everytime FE forms a fleet to combat you "ADUCKS" Go Ateam and the tools following them like lost puppies. You guys run off and hide in either a safe spot or a station. Your finger is pointing the wrong way when your talking about not fighting. Hell your the ones who needed help from BOB to fight your own war. Good Game noobs.

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Originally by: Darcuese

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Originally by: The Cursed

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Edited by: The Cursed on 19/12/2005 08:15:01
Everytime FE forms a fleet to combat you "ADUCKS" Go Ateam and the tools following them like lost puppies. You guys run off and hide in either a safe spot or a station. Your finger is pointing the wrong way when your talking about not fighting. Hell your the ones who needed help from BOB to fight your own war. Good Game noobs.

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Can you check my sig please?[ 2005.12.13 23:48:43 ]--Pilot from north:"we dont want to fight due to server crash and we want a fiar fight with you guys, just dont jump in"

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Originally by: The Cursed

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Edited by: The Cursed on 19/12/2005 08:15:01
Everytime FE forms a fleet to combat you "ADUCKS" Go Ateam and the tools following them like lost puppies. You guys run off and hide in either a safe spot or a station. Your finger is pointing the wrong way when your talking about not fighting. Hell your the ones who needed help from BOB to fight your own war. Good Game noobs.

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Originally by: Yzman Shhan

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Originally by: thoth foc

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Originally by: Mangus Thermopyle

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F-E still at 2000, Five down to what? 600 compared to 1100 when war started.

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and u still cant form a fleet.. most ppl would be embarassed to be fairing so badly..

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Come one thoth, everytime we form a fleet you complain about us blobbing you..

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Originally by: The Cursed

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Humm i check sig and see no pilots name.Who is that guy???? Is he really from the north.
"

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Originally by: Vince Draken

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Originally by: The Cursed

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Edited by: The Cursed on 19/12/2005 08:15:01
Everytime FE forms a fleet to combat you "ADUCKS" Go Ateam and the tools following them like lost puppies. You guys run off and hide in either a safe spot or a station. Your finger is pointing the wrong way when your talking about not fighting. Hell your the ones who needed help from BOB to fight your own war. Good Game noobs.

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Are you only a forum poster or do you have an ingame character?

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Originally by: The Cursed

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Originally by: Vince Draken

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Originally by: The Cursed

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Edited by: The Cursed on 19/12/2005 08:15:01
Everytime FE forms a fleet to combat you "ADUCKS" Go Ateam and the tools following them like lost puppies. You guys run off and hide in either a safe spot or a station. Your finger is pointing the wrong way when your talking about not fighting. Hell your the ones who needed help from BOB to fight your own war. Good Game noobs.

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Are you only a forum poster or do you have an ingame character?

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This is a ingame character. Hummm me wonders who this noob is. If your curious you can find me under the most wanted or bounty area in game.

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Originally by: thoth foc

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Originally by: Yzman Shhan

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Originally by: thoth foc

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Originally by: Mangus Thermopyle

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F-E still at 2000, Five down to what? 600 compared to 1100 when war started.

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and u still cant form a fleet.. most ppl would be embarassed to be fairing so badly..

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Come one thoth, everytime we form a fleet you complain about us blobbing you..

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hmm yeah.. gl with that arguement...

your usual excuse for not fighting is that you cant get enuff to fight us.. it take you 3 alliances to outblob us, and that is again designed to just crash the node and avoid pvp..

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Originally by: ZedLey

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Btw If your so l33t come to H-PA and kick us out of venal

ohh wait you dont have the balls

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Originally by: Tholarim

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And i don't mind being dispised.

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Originally by: Mangus Thermopyle

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Originally by: ZedLey

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Btw If your so l33t come to H-PA and kick us out of venal

ohh wait you dont have the balls

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Well, thats not possible. The last times we have come up there, you have just docked. I read that BoB had the same problems with NORAD, and I would guess other alliance has similar problems with small pirate gangs infesting one of their NPC stations.

But what happened to the big and mighty Five, that was supposed to strike for internal damage and all that? Is this what Five has become now? A small gang infesting NPC stations, trying to gank miners?

Its not at all strange that your 2 most respected corps left.

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Originally by: The Cursed

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Originally by: Vince Draken

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Originally by: The Cursed

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Edited by: The Cursed on 19/12/2005 08:15:01
Everytime FE forms a fleet to combat you "ADUCKS" Go Ateam and the tools following them like lost puppies. You guys run off and hide in either a safe spot or a station. Your finger is pointing the wrong way when your talking about not fighting. Hell your the ones who needed help from BOB to fight your own war. Good Game noobs.

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Are you only a forum poster or do you have an ingame character?

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This is a ingame character. Hummm me wonders who this noob is. If your curious you can find me under the most wanted or bounty area in game.

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Originally by: Mangus Thermopyle

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BLA BLA BLA ...BLA BLA BLA...CRY, CRY, CRY...BLA BLA BLA.

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Originally by: TheJay

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So glad I left F-E, so glad I'm not in .5.

GL to Shinra and M.Corp, liked fighting you guys

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Originally by: s1mon4

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Edited by: s1mon4 on 19/12/2005 10:02:38
The only thing bigger then ATUK ego is there arrogance. You guys have been reduced to a pirate gank squad who run away each time we put up a fleet. You guys are the best way to keep our guys in shape and that is all, u blame us for not fighting on u`r terms please stop wining. From me, GUYS STAY IN TRIBUTE long live the MIGHTY ATUK in there NPC station ganking the solo NPCers or some miners who dont watch the local..
The Dread propaganda is just hilarious, i hear that Santa will bring u guys some titans can i make a picture with them plsss...

PS : M corp and SHINRA gl and hf

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Originally by: s1mon4

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Edited by: s1mon4 on 19/12/2005 10:02:38
The only thing bigger then ATUK ego is there arrogance. You guys have been reduced to a pirate gank squad who run away each time we put up a fleet. You guys are the best way to keep our guys in shape and that is all, u blame us for not fighting on u`r terms please stop wining. From me, GUYS STAY IN TRIBUTE long live the MIGHTY ATUK in there NPC station ganking the solo NPCers or some miners who dont watch the local..
The Dread propaganda is just hilarious, i hear that Santa will bring u guys some titans can i make a picture with them plsss...

PS : M corp and SHINRA gl and hf

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Originally by: ZedLey

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Edited by: ZedLey on 19/12/2005 09:34:01

Originally by: Mangus Thermopyle

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Originally by: ZedLey

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Btw If your so l33t come to H-PA and kick us out of venal

ohh wait you dont have the balls

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Well, thats not possible. The last times we have come up there, you have just docked. I read that BoB had the same problems with NORAD, and I would guess other alliance has similar problems with small pirate gangs infesting one of their NPC stations.

But what happened to the big and mighty Five, that was supposed to strike for internal damage and all that? Is this what Five has become now? A small gang infesting NPC stations, trying to gank miners?

Its not at all strange that your 2 most respected corps left.

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Can you prove the bull**** your saying?

No, I thought so. "Mighty Five" lol you cant handle ATUK what you think happens when BOS/RE1GN/DELTA/SUPRM would move up here?

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Originally by: Tholarim

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And i don't mind being dispised.

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Originally by: Mangus Thermopyle

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Originally by: ZedLey

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Edited by: ZedLey on 19/12/2005 09:34:01

Originally by: Mangus Thermopyle

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Originally by: ZedLey

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Btw If your so l33t come to H-PA and kick us out of venal

ohh wait you dont have the balls

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Well, thats not possible. The last times we have come up there, you have just docked. I read that BoB had the same problems with NORAD, and I would guess other alliance has similar problems with small pirate gangs infesting one of their NPC stations.

But what happened to the big and mighty Five, that was supposed to strike for internal damage and all that? Is this what Five has become now? A small gang infesting NPC stations, trying to gank miners?

Its not at all strange that your 2 most respected corps left.

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Can you prove the bull**** your saying?

No, I thought so. "Mighty Five" lol you cant handle ATUK what you think happens when BOS/RE1GN/DELTA/SUPRM would move up here?

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Well, exactly what have you accomplished in this war against us? Have you taken sovereignty over a lot of systems? Have you made us lose many members and corps? Have you killed lots of our pos ans stations?

No, the fact is, the ONLY thing you have accomplished so far is to shrink your own alliance by 50%. Quite an achievement

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Originally by: Mangus Thermopyle

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Well, exactly what have you accomplished in this war against us? Have you taken sovereignty over a lot of systems? Have you made us lose many members and corps? Have you killed lots of our pos ans stations?

No, the fact is, the ONLY thing you have accomplished so far is to shrink your own alliance by 50%. Quite an achievement

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Originally by: Vince Draken

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Originally by: The Cursed

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Originally by: Vince Draken

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Originally by: The Cursed

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Edited by: The Cursed on 19/12/2005 08:15:01
Everytime FE forms a fleet to combat you "ADUCKS" Go Ateam and the tools following them like lost puppies. You guys run off and hide in either a safe spot or a station. Your finger is pointing the wrong way when your talking about not fighting. Hell your the ones who needed help from BOB to fight your own war. Good Game noobs.

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Are you only a forum poster or do you have an ingame character?

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This is a ingame character. Hummm me wonders who this noob is. If your curious you can find me under the most wanted or bounty area in game.

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Yeah thanks

Here I thought you were just some washed up joker who hasnt done a meaningfull thing in eve in a very long time while living off a reputaion of old. I thought you were the kind of person who would only run their mouth on the forums without actually having any knowlege of whats really going on. Here I though that you had no kills on the Five killboard and havent had a kill on your own site in almost 3 months. What is suprising is that these dates just happens to coinside with our war on F-E and company.

So, please tell me again how your opinions are relevant?


Btw, self imposed bounties impress 10 day old characters. That is about it.

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Originally by: Darcuese

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Simple question...who achieved more in this war?..has very simple answer.

Those that enjoy more now then before.

Mcorp and Shinra went their own way. They didnt particapeted to much in north. It wasnt their style of play. They choosed their own path.
So The 5 got cleaned , you might say that...corps that stayed in The 5 have preaty much the same based principles at what for and how they play this game.

So, we are happy..you can beliave it or not. Its up to you.

Now...I would like to know opinion and satisfaction by this war from other war parties other then 5.

So, best calculation of who is winning or not could be seen in current happynes of alliances pilots.
Me is happy....are you?

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Originally by: Kira Bellum

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Originally by: JimmySav

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The [5] announce the passing of Shinra and M Corp from [5]
membership, after the rigours of prolonged combat proved too much for
them.

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it is exceedingly ironic you should say that. ts was rather interesting during the cache PvPos engagements.... atuk up north getting easy kills.... the rest of us doing the hardcore work. now i see this bs posted in public.... im not given access to teh directors forums or the uber ts chats or anything but things are clearing up for me now....

perhaps you should just rename the alliance "atuk" just to clear up any confusion. its closer to reality anyways.

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Originally by: Darcuese

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Simple question...who achieved more in this war?..has very simple answer.

Those that enjoy more now then before.

Mcorp and Shinra went their own way. They didnt particapeted to much in north. It wasnt their style of play. They choosed their own path.
So The 5 got cleaned , you might say that...corps that stayed in The 5 have preaty much the same based principles at what for and how they play this game.

So, we are happy..you can beliave it or not. Its up to you.

Now...I would like to know opinion and satisfaction by this war from other war parties other then 5.

So, best calculation of who is winning or not could be seen in current happynes of alliances pilots.
Me is happy....are you?

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Originally by: Darcuese

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The [email protected] am really happy that you have ability to talk.
Now, one more step to get ability to think and you will be complete.



Im sorry i have told you that...but you well deserved it with your aproach

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Originally by: Xaarist

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a sad day for the forum community, just as the other 364. why oh why can't some people stop hijacking threads with their flames?

the original topic would have been one where many readers might have been interested in, but reading these 3 pages (2.5 of them total bull**** and off topic) is a pure pain in the arse. no information here, oh yes, and

IBTL

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Originally by: WRGST

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HAHA, see ATUK this is what you former friends think of you pvp abilities.. Finaly they mean what i have been saying for ages... ATUK think they are pvp gods becuase they know how to gank HAHA pathetic Atuk btw you should rename the alliance to ATUK..

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Originally by: Guderian

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Originally by: WRGST

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HAHA, see ATUK this is what you former friends think of you pvp abilities.. Finaly they mean what i have been saying for ages... ATUK think they are pvp gods becuase they know how to gank HAHA pathetic Atuk btw you should rename the alliance to ATUK..

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Please, you might hate atuk with a passion, they might gank, they might even smack talk, but you cant take away their pvp abilities, which their track record is a clear testiment to. They are known for fighting aslong as the odds aren't insanely stacked against them. They are happy to jump into a big camp where the enemies are deployed with drones out, just to get a fight. They have some of the best commanders this game can offer, and some of the best solo pvp'ers ever raised in EVE.

And they aren't afraid to post with their mains

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Originally by: The Cursed

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If you call killing miners and ratters in FE space defeating the enemy. You guys win hands down. Please no dont kill the guys not fighting for there alliance. Make it stop NNNNOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!.

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Originally by: Guderian

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Originally by: WRGST

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HAHA, see ATUK this is what you former friends think of you pvp abilities.. Finaly they mean what i have been saying for ages... ATUK think they are pvp gods becuase they know how to gank HAHA pathetic Atuk btw you should rename the alliance to ATUK..

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Please, you might hate atuk with a passion, they might gank, they might even smack talk, but you cant take away their pvp abilities, which their track record is a clear testiment to. They are known for fighting aslong as the odds aren't insanely stacked against them. They are happy to jump into a big camp where the enemies are deployed with drones out, just to get a fight. They have some of the best commanders this game can offer, and some of the best solo pvp'ers ever raised in EVE.

And they aren't afraid to post with their mains

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Originally by: ZedLey

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Edited by: ZedLey on 19/12/2005 12:12:24



WRGST = MAXSuicide no other way to explain the retarded bs he says.

edit: might be Trepkos aswell dont recall any other forum *****s that got kicked from ATUK

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Originally by: ZedLey

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Question is. What have you achieved in this war?

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Originally by: Tholarim

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And i don't mind being dispised.

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Originally by: Mangus Thermopyle

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Originally by: ZedLey

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Question is. What have you achieved in this war?

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The short version: we had 4500 enemies when this war was at its peak, and we have reduced that number down to 600. And during this time, we have not lost any members in F-E, we are still at 2000.

We have also got a lot of PvP training for our members that once where new to PvP.

All in all, not to bad. Anything else you are curious about?

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Originally by: Amthrianius

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Originally by: Mangus Thermopyle

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Originally by: ZedLey

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Question is. What have you achieved in this war?

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The short version: we had 4500 enemies when this war was at its peak, and we have reduced that number down to 600. And during this time, we have not lost any members in F-E, we are still at 2000.

We have also got a lot of PvP training for our members that once where new to PvP.

All in all, not to bad. Anything else you are curious about?

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You have lost pvp corps and recruited miners, good job on persh's recruiting is all i can say.

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Originally by: Tholarim

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And i don't mind being dispised.

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Originally by: Mangus Thermopyle

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As far as I know, only one PvP corp has left us

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Originally by: Matilda Horium

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Rumours say that there is also other corporations looking way to leave .5. like BOS but hey, what do I know about it. I'm only an alt

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Originally by: thoth foc

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Originally by: Mangus Thermopyle

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As far as I know, only one PvP corp has left us

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you had a pvp corp?

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Originally by: ZedLey

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what you think happens when BOS/RE1GN/DELTA/SUPRM would move up here?

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Originally by: Naphtalia

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Originally by: ZedLey

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what you think happens when BOS/RE1GN/DELTA/SUPRM would move up here?

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tbh, I wish they came up here... I love fighting BOS and RE1GN! Suprm I don't really know didn't really see them in curse, catch, cache, venal, great wildlands or empire when I was fighting against the .5. DelTa i don't really know either, I have only encountered them in an ATUK fleet with 1 or 2 pilots.

This isn't smack and you may not need it but I beg BOS to come up here

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Originally by: Yzman Shhan

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Originally by: thoth foc

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Originally by: Mangus Thermopyle

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As far as I know, only one PvP corp has left us

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you had a pvp corp?

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Lies, all lies.. We do not have any PvP corps, we're utterly pwned by [5] and can't get our veldspar fix now

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Originally by: anister

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Originally by: Naphtalia

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tbh, I wish they came up here... I love fighting BOS <..snip..> but I beg BOS to come up here

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SoonÖ

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Originally by: Naphtalia

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Originally by: anister

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Originally by: Naphtalia

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tbh, I wish they came up here... I love fighting BOS <..snip..> but I beg BOS to come up here

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SoonÖ

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Cool ani, looking forward to it, let me know if you need a hand or a travel pass to move in.

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Originally by: The Cursed

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Originally by: Vince Draken

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Originally by: The Cursed

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Originally by: Vince Draken

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Originally by: The Cursed

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Edited by: The Cursed on 19/12/2005 08:15:01
Everytime FE forms a fleet to combat you "ADUCKS" Go Ateam and the tools following them like lost puppies. You guys run off and hide in either a safe spot or a station. Your finger is pointing the wrong way when your talking about not fighting. Hell your the ones who needed help from BOB to fight your own war. Good Game noobs.

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Are you only a forum poster or do you have an ingame character?

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This is a ingame character. Hummm me wonders who this noob is. If your curious you can find me under the most wanted or bounty area in game.

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Yeah thanks

Here I thought you were just some washed up joker who hasnt done a meaningfull thing in eve in a very long time while living off a reputaion of old. I thought you were the kind of person who would only run their mouth on the forums without actually having any knowlege of whats really going on. Here I though that you had no kills on the Five killboard and havent had a kill on your own site in almost 3 months. What is suprising is that these dates just happens to coinside with our war on F-E and company.

So, please tell me again how your opinions are relevant?


Btw, self imposed bounties impress 10 day old characters. That is about it.

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Why i waist time proving anything to newbs get me but just too please you i will fill you in. I'm not playing eve atm nor have i but only two weeks in the last years b/c ive been in Iraq. But i have the abilty to talk to many people who do. Which fuels every statement i make. Truth hurts and i can see you crying right now. BTW my bounty came from a friend who thought it would be a nice going away present before he left the game. Its more a pain then something cool and one more thing. I've been killing peeps in this game long before you were a nutt stain in some clones pants. Good Game!!!!!!!!!!!

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Originally by: Hast

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Oh its on now, never mess with me when I'm going mining.

Originally by: BlackDog Rackh'am

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Short version is that the only way to remove atuk is kill their fun factor,which in turn involves doing boring stuff ourselves,like camping them 24/7 with a bigger blob.

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Originally by: Pehova Mindtriq

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Originally by: BlackDog Rackh'am

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Short version is that the only way to remove atuk is kill their fun factor,which in turn involves doing boring stuff ourselves,like camping them 24/7 with a bigger blob.

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Hiding is a better tactic if you want to bore the enemy. But i doubt any leader with atleast a tiny bit of pride would order their members to hide just to get rid of the enemy.

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Originally by: BlackDog Rackh'am

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Short version is that the only way to remove atuk is kill their fun factor,which in turn involves doing boring stuff ourselves,like camping them 24/7 with a bigger blob.

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Originally by: BlackDog Rackh'am

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and an ex-[5] pilot backed up my assumptions.

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Originally by: Kaleeb

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Originally by: BlackDog Rackh'am

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and an ex-[5] pilot backed up my assumptions.

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That be me

Anyway whoever said on the last page that it was shinra and suprem fighting in cache are wrong, I was there for the entire time it went like this :

Shinra and ATUK started it, then ATUK went on holiday in the north.

Shinra had to fall back as they were massively outnumbered.

M.corp moves to cache and with help from Shinra take all of Cache

Bos/Suprem/Re1gn join in to help keep the area

Atuk come back to help

5 withdraw as the pos war becomes impossible to fight.

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Originally by: Omeega

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Edited by: Omeega on 19/12/2005 20:25:55
Edited by: Omeega on 19/12/2005 20:24:17

Originally by: Kaleeb

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Originally by: BlackDog Rackh'am

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and an ex-[5] pilot backed up my assumptions.

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That be me

Anyway whoever said on the last page that it was shinra and suprem fighting in cache are wrong, I was there for the entire time it went like this :

Shinra and ATUK started it, then ATUK went on holiday in the north.

Shinra had to fall back as they were massively outnumbered.

M.corp moves to cache and with help from Shinra take all of Cache

Bos/Suprem/Re1gn join in to help keep the area

Atuk come back to help

5 withdraw as the pos war becomes impossible to fight.

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no.

1) shinra tries. fails.
2) mcorp comes in (not alone, with UK corp) - this gives them huge numbers
3) they start puting POS in cache so we can't take stations back
4) we get 20ppl fleet in. Shinra/Mcorp/UKCorp call ATUK for help -> 20 vs 60 aka "WE NOT BLOB"
5) [5] cries on forums how RA members go to sleep at 11pm eve time aka... 02am moscow time.
6) we start puting POSes to get cache back
7) shinra puts POS (props to that guy btw, he had some determination ;) )
8) Mcorp puts POS
9) UKcorp puts POS
10) We retake stations
11) [5] cries about POS wars

AHE? POS WARS?!?!?!? EBIL RUSSIANS!!!!

So please, stop with the POS thing. Determination is what you lacked.


edit #2 - kal i just saw your post wasn't a flame at all. sorry. Still this is what i think about RA/[5] conflict in cache. We had some good fights and good chats. But that's something you seem not to remember.

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Originally by: Vince Draken

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Nice selective memory you have going on there.

I cba to argue about it as its old news. But, you are far from right.

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Originally by: Kaleeb

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Hehe no worries omeega we will both have a different idea of events, both alittle bias :)

Uk corp i didnt mention, but they came after m.corp had taken back cache as part of the population plan.

Props to RA over that campaign you had a dogged determination , would have been interesting to see what would happen if pos wars were different and the 5 had been more group orientated.

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Originally by: Omeega

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no.

1) shinra tries. fails.
2) mcorp comes in (not alone, with UK corp) - this gives them huge numbers
3) they start puting POS in cache so we can't take stations back
4) we get 20ppl fleet in. Shinra/Mcorp/UKCorp call ATUK for help -> 20 vs 60 aka "WE NOT BLOB"
5) [5] cries on forums how RA members go to sleep at 11pm eve time aka... 02am moscow time.
6) we start puting POSes to get cache back
7) shinra puts POS (props to that guy btw, he had some determination ;) )
8) Mcorp puts POS
9) UKcorp puts POS
10) We retake stations
11) [5] cries about POS wars

AHE? POS WARS?!?!?!? EBIL RUSSIANS!!!!

So please, stop with the POS thing. Determination is what you lacked.


edit #2 - kal i just saw your post wasn't a flame at all. sorry. Still this is what i think about RA/[5] conflict in cache. We had some good fights and good chats. But that's something you seem not to remember.

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Originally by: Guderian

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Edited by: Guderian on 19/12/2005 21:13:24

Originally by: Omeega

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no.

1) shinra tries. fails.
2) mcorp comes in (not alone, with UK corp) - this gives them huge numbers
3) they start puting POS in cache so we can't take stations back
4) we get 20ppl fleet in. Shinra/Mcorp/UKCorp call ATUK for help -> 20 vs 60 aka "WE NOT BLOB"
5) [5] cries on forums how RA members go to sleep at 11pm eve time aka... 02am moscow time.
6) we start puting POSes to get cache back
7) shinra puts POS (props to that guy btw, he had some determination ;) )
8) Mcorp puts POS
9) UKcorp puts POS
10) We retake stations
11) [5] cries about POS wars

AHE? POS WARS?!?!?!? EBIL RUSSIANS!!!!

So please, stop with the POS thing. Determination is what you lacked.


edit #2 - kal i just saw your post wasn't a flame at all. sorry. Still this is what i think about RA/[5] conflict in cache. We had some good fights and good chats. But that's something you seem not to remember.

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NO!

1) [5] takes cache in a rush.
2) Shinra stays and quickly gets outnumbered and out pos'ed.
3) Shinra gets help from M.corp in Cache and manage to retake cache, reducing RA in cache to the npc'ers/alts in the 10/10 complex and some miners in a dead end system.
4) There is alot of good fights around Konora!! :D
5) RA/RAT launches a attack on immensea (probably trying to take some of the heat off Cache)
6) Good battles are fought in Immensea, some won by RA/RAT (props to them), some won by [5] !!! :D
7) Shinra tries to retaliate the pos war, but can't fight 20+ pos's put up before downtime on a daily basis.
8) [5] decides that a war fought with anchoring skills and pos's is worthless and decides to not fight the pos war anymore.

EDIT: Ohh, almost forgot: 1.5) RA complains and even cries on the forum claiming [5] has GM's in their ranks and are manipulating with their pos's, ammo and ship modules.

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Originally by: Vince Draken

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/signed

That is how it went. I still got a copy of that official RA letter to CCP

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Originally by: Omeega

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Originally by: Vince Draken

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/signed

That is how it went. I still got a copy of that official RA letter to CCP

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LEMME GUESS!!!

you read it everynight before going to sleep?

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Originally by: Profess0r Mansechs0r

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Originally by: Omeega

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Originally by: Vince Draken

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/signed

That is how it went. I still got a copy of that official RA letter to CCP

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LEMME GUESS!!!

you read it everynight before going to sleep?

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5 members can't read

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Originally by: Omeega

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Originally by: Vince Draken

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/signed

That is how it went. I still got a copy of that official RA letter to CCP

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LEMME GUESS!!!

you read it everynight before going to sleep?

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Originally by: Vince Draken

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Originally by: Omeega

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Originally by: Vince Draken

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/signed

That is how it went. I still got a copy of that official RA letter to CCP

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LEMME GUESS!!!

you read it everynight before going to sleep?

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I just cba to type a longwinded to reply to your selective memory.

I'm busy answering petitons and unstucking ppl.

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Originally by: Skape Gote

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Originally by: Vince Draken

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Originally by: Omeega

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Originally by: Vince Draken

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/signed

That is how it went. I still got a copy of that official RA letter to CCP

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LEMME GUESS!!!

you read it everynight before going to sleep?

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I just cba to type a longwinded to reply to your selective memory.

I'm busy answering petitons and unstucking ppl.

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Can you take away all FE's ammo and weapons etc please as the forums were highly amusing the last time that happened. Also can you make it so that I can have every ship Ive lost back.

Thx in advance.

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Originally by: Darcuese

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Ok. To clarify some things.
If you take starting post as creative goodby post and you see all responses by ppl from other alliances...you will see there werent any smacking at all...

UNTILL :

Originally by: The Cursed

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If you call killing miners and ratters in FE space defeating the enemy. You guys win hands down. Please no dont kill the guys not fighting for there alliance. Make it stop NNNNOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!.

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After this one it all went to hell.

So , please, do try to read the thread more then few posts so you can judge someone for smacking or not. In this as in many others threads some ppl/kids jump in and start B u l l >product that come from part of human budy that smell but its not your mouth< ING.

We might keep quiet...but then it wouldnt be that interesting.

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Originally by: Kcel Chim

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Originally by: Pehova Mindtriq

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Originally by: BlackDog Rackh'am

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Short version is that the only way to remove atuk is kill their fun factor,which in turn involves doing boring stuff ourselves,like camping them 24/7 with a bigger blob.

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Hiding is a better tactic if you want to bore the enemy. But i doubt any leader with atleast a tiny bit of pride would order their members to hide just to get rid of the enemy.

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FA did ^^

As for FE, if you would fight as much as you smack you might win a fleetbattle once in awhile or offer some serious fighting.
You might fuel those members not playing the game into thinking how much you rock and own, sadly as soon as you connect to tq this wishfull thinking just pops like the dreambubbles youre spilling here so freely on the forums.

FE lost a good handfull of corps and recruited a good handfull to keep your numbers at hand. 5 lost 2 corps and some single members. We didnt recruit tho.
You might blind joe.forumreader with that but we both and basically everyone in your alliance knows the truth, especially if u ask us to present your desperate cries for more ships when Atuk "outblobs" you (a whole alliance) in completely remote systems like d7, wh, imk (right they are unimporatant) or when we move our dreads freely or when we jump just with 1 scout in a system to see everyone run for the station or ss (ironically i didnt even have a fleet behind me and was just trying make my way to hpa).

On the otherhand u will prolly start to call me a liar and those things deluted. Im sure we will get logs or screenshots to prove the points, be it now or in a week, as we are going to stay.

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Originally by: Blind Fear

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Generally, when trying to be a puppetmaster, it is considered good form not to wrap the strings around your neck and choke yourself.

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Quote:

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Like in all wars you always lose the weaker corps who dont want to fight. But since your such a newb to this you probly havn't figured that out yet.

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Originally by: The Cursed

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Like in all wars you always lose the weaker corps who dont want to fight. But since your such a newb to this you probly havn't figured that out yet.

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Originally by: Tholarim

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And i don't mind being dispised.

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Originally by: Mangus Thermopyle

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As far as I know, the only PvP corp we lost was Spieces, and they joined after the war had started so they dont really count. Memberwise I doubt we have lost much if anything (the numbers at the alliance page seems to be incorrect, so I dont know how to check).

Buttom line: ATUKs cannon of internal problems certainly hasnt hit us so far. If anything, it has hit their own alliance

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Originally by: Mangus Thermopyle

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Buttom line: ATUKs cannon of internal problems certainly hasnt hit us so far. If anything, it has hit their own alliance

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Originally by: ZedLey

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Theres always 2 sides of a story Napth

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Originally by: Kaleeb

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Edited by: Kaleeb on 20/12/2005 11:03:25

Originally by: Mangus Thermopyle

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As far as I know, the only PvP corp we lost was Spieces, and they joined after the war had started so they dont really count. Memberwise I doubt we have lost much if anything (the numbers at the alliance page seems to be incorrect, so I dont know how to check).

Buttom line: ATUKs cannon of internal problems certainly hasnt hit us so far. If anything, it has hit their own alliance

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Mate you should see the ammount of mails about corps leaving we recieved when I was in 5. Fair enough you might not think them relevant or important and you have recruited many more corps in to keep up numbers. But facts cannot be denied a large ammount of corps/people have left the northern alliances over the course of this war. Its just the same as M. and Shinra leaving except it looks worse on the 5 as it was comprised of only a few large corps and is unlikely to recruit others.

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Originally by: Tholarim

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And i don't mind being dispised.

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Originally by: Naphtalia

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Let's get back on topic....
So BOS, can you come visit us we want cool people to fight!!!
Example of a day in the lives of F-E:
F-E pilot is bored so decides he doesn't care if he loses a ship... he got no backup...
He jumps to 9-2 and sits on the H-PA gate waiting for ATUK to come back from their miner-hunting mission.
covert ops reports 9-2 gate in h-pa is clear... <<all good, all good>>
1 ATUK enters local... Interesting... (30sec later) another ATUK enters local... ok :) this can become fun..
F-E pilot loads his assualt launcher II's on his Caracal.
30 sec later third ATUK enters local....
F-E pilot: Well I have done 1v10's before lets just hope it isn't 3 HACS against my 1 itty bitty cruiser.
20 seconds later: 3 Ships enter longrange scan radius... Vigil, Taranis, Zealot...
F-E pilot: Tricky, but lets give it a shot... maybe I can get some kills and then retreat from the zealot... yarr...
Covert ops in H-PA: 9-2 gate is still clear you can go for it.
3 ATUK drop out of warp on top of the F-E Caracal... YARRR...
F-E pilot: locks vigil, locks taranis, locks zealot..
ATUK pilots: ((seemingly wait for F-E pilot to aggro))
F-E pilot braces himself and activates guns...
(( you cannot lock vigil because it left system 1seconds ago ))
F-E pilot: well I guess the vigil pilot goes and checks for a trap... lets go for the tranny then
(( you cannot lock taranis because it left system 1seconds ago ))
F-E pilot: Ah, I get it.. now the Zealot will agress me, force me to jump and I will get jumped on the other side... fun fun fun...
F-E pilot waits for 20 seconds for the Zealot to agress...
F-E pilot gives up... and warps away desillusioned.
Names ommited to not name and shame the involved... but BOS, I know you would have tried and wtfpwn this caracal and probably succeeded... can you please come!!! we miss you!

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Originally by: Mangus Thermopyle

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Originally by: Kaleeb

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Edited by: Kaleeb on 20/12/2005 11:03:25

Originally by: Mangus Thermopyle

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As far as I know, the only PvP corp we lost was Spieces, and they joined after the war had started so they dont really count. Memberwise I doubt we have lost much if anything (the numbers at the alliance page seems to be incorrect, so I dont know how to check).

Buttom line: ATUKs cannon of internal problems certainly hasnt hit us so far. If anything, it has hit their own alliance

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Mate you should see the ammount of mails about corps leaving we recieved when I was in 5. Fair enough you might not think them relevant or important and you have recruited many more corps in to keep up numbers. But facts cannot be denied a large ammount of corps/people have left the northern alliances over the course of this war. Its just the same as M. and Shinra leaving except it looks worse on the 5 as it was comprised of only a few large corps and is unlikely to recruit others.

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I am speaking our F-E, not PA and NBSI who had some problems with RISK/FoE earlier on in this war. I dont know the numbers or anything, but from what I heard they had some corps leaving them.

And toth: we dont have any problems with your corp. In fact, we hardly notice you most nights (like yesterday for example). Its just you guys who likes to think that you cause mayhem wherever you go (which is true in a sense, but the mayhem seem to hit your own alliance instead of ours).

So far, atuk has helped us to make 500 members leave Five, so if anything you are our friends, not the enemy

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Originally by: Darcuese

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Edited by: Darcuese on 20/12/2005 12:04:29

Originally by: Naphtalia

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Let's get back on topic....
So BOS, can you come visit us we want cool people to fight!!!
Example of a day in the lives of F-E:
F-E pilot is bored so decides he doesn't care if he loses a ship... he got no backup...
He jumps to 9-2 and sits on the H-PA gate waiting for ATUK to come back from their miner-hunting mission.
covert ops reports 9-2 gate in h-pa is clear... <<all good, all good>>
1 ATUK enters local... Interesting... (30sec later) another ATUK enters local... ok :) this can become fun..
F-E pilot loads his assualt launcher II's on his Caracal.
30 sec later third ATUK enters local....
F-E pilot: Well I have done 1v10's before lets just hope it isn't 3 HACS against my 1 itty bitty cruiser.
20 seconds later: 3 Ships enter longrange scan radius... Vigil, Taranis, Zealot...
F-E pilot: Tricky, but lets give it a shot... maybe I can get some kills and then retreat from the zealot... yarr...
Covert ops in H-PA: 9-2 gate is still clear you can go for it.
3 ATUK drop out of warp on top of the F-E Caracal... YARRR...
F-E pilot: locks vigil, locks taranis, locks zealot..
ATUK pilots: ((seemingly wait for F-E pilot to aggro))
F-E pilot braces himself and activates guns...
(( you cannot lock vigil because it left system 1seconds ago ))
F-E pilot: well I guess the vigil pilot goes and checks for a trap... lets go for the tranny then
(( you cannot lock taranis because it left system 1seconds ago ))
F-E pilot: Ah, I get it.. now the Zealot will agress me, force me to jump and I will get jumped on the other side... fun fun fun...
F-E pilot waits for 20 seconds for the Zealot to agress...
F-E pilot gives up... and warps away desillusioned.
Names ommited to not name and shame the involved... but BOS, I know you would have tried and wtfpwn this caracal and probably succeeded... can you please come!!! we miss you!

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WTF?..I read back few pages just to see what was the purpose of this Nath Post. Conclusion-

Why were you bothering to write that is beyond me, what is it you want to share with us with that post is beyond me, are you one of "respectable" FE pilots?...Cause I really dont know political background-...but no matter.
I have posted crap that ppl didnt get, but reason behgind this post in this thread are out of this world me think

BTW, Can you send your replacement in H-Pa...cause it become to boring reading and listening you, tbh

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Originally by: Blind Fear

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Generally, when trying to be a puppetmaster, it is considered good form not to wrap the strings around your neck and choke yourself.

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Originally by: Naphtalia

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Edited by: Naphtalia on 20/12/2005 11:54:53

Originally by: ZedLey

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Theres always 2 sides of a story Napth

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Of course... but.. finding a cruiser on a gate with 2 tacklers and a HAC is a guaranteed kill, especially with a rax @ station and no backup (25 ATUK and 1 F-E cloaker in H-PA) *the pilot* was totally shocked *he* came out of that one alive.

And *he* would have been really disapointed if *he* didn't take one down with *him*. But there are not many corps that would leave that cruiser alone for whatever reason. (RL issues aside such as having to go to bed etc.)

I am intrigued though what the story is in this case :)

But lets stay on topic... BOS?

*edited to omit pilotnames*

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Originally by: Darken Two

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The point I would think, is to give a small example of why we think ATUKs forum warriors are just full of hot air. You're quite effective fighters I'll hand you that but you vastly overestimate the effect you might be having on teh northern alliances.

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Originally by: Darcuese

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BTW, Can you send your replacement in H-Pa...cause it become to boring reading and listening you, tbh

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Originally by: ZedLey

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Originally by: Darken Two

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The point I would think, is to give a small example of why we think ATUKs forum warriors are just full of hot air. You're quite effective fighters I'll hand you that but you vastly overestimate the effect you might be having on teh northern alliances.

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Same thing can be sayd about you. "hot air" like Magnus's posts. All F-E members telling the different story.

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Originally by: Blind Fear

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Generally, when trying to be a puppetmaster, it is considered good form not to wrap the strings around your neck and choke yourself.

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Originally by: Naphtalia

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To ATUK: what does one have to do to be properly smacktalked by you lot ;) I was expecting way more smacky responses than the ones I got thusfar :)

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Originally by: Naphtalia

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darken, lets stay civil and on topic.. we are discussing why shinra/m.corp left .5. and when BOS is coming to h-pa to help .5. get propper fights.

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Originally by: Darken Two

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The point I would think, is to give a small example of why we think ATUKs forum warriors are just full of hot air. You're quite effective fighters I'll hand you that but you vastly overestimate the effect you might be having on teh northern alliances.

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Originally by: thoth foc

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no question atuk are active on the forums.. but the difference is we "bring it" ingame too..

btw nat.. BOS wasnt the topic of the thread either :)

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Originally by: thoth foc

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Originally by: Darken Two

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The point I would think, is to give a small example of why we think ATUKs forum warriors are just full of hot air. You're quite effective fighters I'll hand you that but you vastly overestimate the effect you might be having on teh northern alliances.

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ok d2.. lets give example of the northern alliances..

a few days ago we saw a blob on the map between branch and Dek, we formed a fleet to investigate..

F-E:
on the way we jumped into a system with an F-E fleet, it wasnt on jumpin, so we warped to jumpout, it wasnt on jumpout so guessing they had SS'd already we started jumping through.. as the last of our guys jumped through they reported the F-E had arrived at the gate, the FC gave the command to stay and prepare for a fight.. we waited... waited.. waited.. no F-E jumping in.. we sent a scout back through.. shock surprise the MLM/F-E gang had ran already..

PA:
so we proceeded to destination and jumped in on an equally sized PA gang.. the PA gang SS'd and logged..

no question atuk are active on the forums.. but the difference is we "bring it" ingame too..

btw nat.. BOS wasnt the topic of the thread either :)

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Originally by: Blind Fear

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Generally, when trying to be a puppetmaster, it is considered good form not to wrap the strings around your neck and choke yourself.

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Originally by: Darcuese

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hehe. You know that you probably started next story telling from battlefield

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Originally by: Darken Two

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Fair nuff Thoth, but I think the same thing happened to us yesterday when your fleet came to tribute.

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Originally by: thoth foc

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btw nat.. BOS wasnt the topic of the thread either :)

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Originally by: thoth foc

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"omg i ran away in a t1 cruiser"
lets face it.. t1 cruiser OMG what a high priority target..

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Originally by: Darcuese

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Yes, you are right...we lost faith in ourself and our bones are filled with fear. We poorly pilots has lost our reasources and no more ships are spendable as losses. Poor little vigil , what a pain he might cause. To mine whole week after, could I get one more?

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Originally by: Omeega

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Originally by: Darcuese

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Yes, you are right...we lost faith in ourself and our bones are filled with fear. We poorly pilots has lost our reasources and no more ships are spendable as losses. Poor little vigil , what a pain he might cause. To mine whole week after, could I get one more?

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darc you should take away your <F5> key. would help you a lot. I had to talk about this with a professionnal (aka Hast) and imho he helped me a lot...

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Originally by: Naphtalia

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Nice twist Thoth ;) I expected worse smack though

Sniping a shuttle is a high ennough priority target...

The story wasn't about the Caracal disengaging after 1 minute because battleships started to undock but about Zealot and Vigil and Taranis being utterly stunned at the gate not knowing how to force an engagement with a t1 cruiser and letting it go after a minute.

Actually it wasn't even about that...

The story was there to illustrate the difference between BOS who would have killed that cruiser and ATUK who didn't.... for whatever reason (fear of losing a vigil, other pressing matters, RL issues)

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Originally by: Parity

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All i c in this topic is 5 trying to win the war by talking on forums and trying to prove us here that they are holding venal...

Reality is that they are holding H-PA in euro timezone and they are forming gangs squads for easy kills during the day travel to d7- and when the f-e forms equal fleet size or more they are returning to h-pa and chill out there bored to death...

Im so bored to c the eve forums every day with 5 propaganda that they are winning and they are better than 2000 member alliance like f-e and such stuff that they know its not true...

Get a Clue 5 like that u will never win the war ur peeps will be bored locked in h-pa and u will lose ur corp (atuk) in the long turn of this...

and plz i don't wanna hear here about PA/NBSI smack this is just my opinion about ur tacticks and strategy.

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Originally by: n1r4

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That's about the same CA told ATUK...
I wonder where CA is

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Originally by: Darcuese

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that if there would be party competition by alliances, guess whose would be the best

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Originally by: RickJamez

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Originally by: n1r4

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That's about the same CA told ATUK...
I wonder where CA is

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The implication there is even funnier than RA wingdings claiming they whooped [5] during the POS war.

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Originally by: n1r4

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Originally by: RickJamez

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Originally by: n1r4

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That's about the same CA told ATUK...
I wonder where CA is

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The implication there is even funnier than RA wingdings claiming they whooped [5] during the POS war.

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If you knew CA disspanded cuz of internal problems, I never claimed anything else
I just noticed that ppl smack ATUK with the same smack

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Originally by: Parity

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All i c in this topic is 5 trying to win the war by talking on forums and trying to prove us here that they are holding venal...

Reality is that they are holding H-PA in euro timezone and they are forming gangs squads for easy kills during the day travel to d7- and when the f-e forms equal fleet size or more they are returning to h-pa and chill out there bored to death...

Im so bored to c the eve forums every day with 5 propaganda that they are winning and they are better than 2000 member alliance like f-e and such stuff that they know its not true...

Get a Clue 5 like that u will never win the war ur peeps will be bored locked in h-pa and u will lose ur corp (atuk) in the long turn of this...

and plz i don't wanna hear here about PA/NBSI smack this is just my opinion about ur tacticks and strategy.

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Originally by: Jherek Cornelian

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As for you, your as weak as you say we are.

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Originally by: Mangus Thermopyle

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Originally by: Kaleeb

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Edited by: Kaleeb on 20/12/2005 11:03:25

Originally by: Mangus Thermopyle

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As far as I know, the only PvP corp we lost was Spieces, and they joined after the war had started so they dont really count. Memberwise I doubt we have lost much if anything (the numbers at the alliance page seems to be incorrect, so I dont know how to check).

Buttom line: ATUKs cannon of internal problems certainly hasnt hit us so far. If anything, it has hit their own alliance

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Mate you should see the ammount of mails about corps leaving we recieved when I was in 5. Fair enough you might not think them relevant or important and you have recruited many more corps in to keep up numbers. But facts cannot be denied a large ammount of corps/people have left the northern alliances over the course of this war. Its just the same as M. and Shinra leaving except it looks worse on the 5 as it was comprised of only a few large corps and is unlikely to recruit others.

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I am speaking our F-E, not PA and NBSI who had some problems with RISK/FoE earlier on in this war. I dont know the numbers or anything, but from what I heard they had some corps leaving them.

And toth: we dont have any problems with your corp. In fact, we hardly notice you most nights (like yesterday for example). Its just you guys who likes to think that you cause mayhem wherever you go (which is true in a sense, but the mayhem seem to hit your own alliance instead of ours).

So far, atuk has helped us to make 500 members leave Five, so if anything you are our friends, not the enemy

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Originally by: Tholarim

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And i don't mind being dispised.

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Originally by: Mangus Thermopyle

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Buttom line is: Five has failed miserable to make us disband and/or leave Tribute, and that was what they said they would. Besides, not only have we survived this war and even become stronger for it, Five has lost almost 50% of its members.

So its understandably that ATUK sounds a little desperate. To first brag about your superiority, and then fail bigtime against "a bunch of carebears" (their words) really have to suck

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Originally by: Jherek Cornelian

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However without you we haven't much to do and I don't think it would be in our interests to get rid of you.

Without us you'd be bored as well.

It's what we spend our 10 quid a month on.

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Originally by: Mangus Thermopyle

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Buttom line is: Five has failed miserable to make us disband and/or leave Tribute, and that was what they said they would. Besides, not only have we survived this war and even become stronger for it, Five has lost almost 50% of its members.

So its understandably that ATUK sounds a little desperate. To first brag about your superiority, and then fail bigtime against "a bunch of carebears" (their words) really have to suck

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Originally by: Tholarim

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Originally by: Mangus Thermopyle

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Buttom line is: Five has failed miserable to make us disband and/or leave Tribute, and that was what they said they would. Besides, not only have we survived this war and even become stronger for it, Five has lost almost 50% of its members.

So its understandably that ATUK sounds a little desperate. To first brag about your superiority, and then fail bigtime against "a bunch of carebears" (their words) really have to suck

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to quote someone: It ain't over till the fat lady sings.

And i would wait with claiming victory in this war if i was you.

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Originally by: Tholarim

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And i don't mind being dispised.

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Originally by: Mangus Thermopyle

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Originally by: Tholarim

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Originally by: Mangus Thermopyle

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Buttom line is: Five has failed miserable to make us disband and/or leave Tribute, and that was what they said they would. Besides, not only have we survived this war and even become stronger for it, Five has lost almost 50% of its members.

So its understandably that ATUK sounds a little desperate. To first brag about your superiority, and then fail bigtime against "a bunch of carebears" (their words) really have to suck

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to quote someone: It ain't over till the fat lady sings.

And i would wait with claiming victory in this war if i was you.

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Well, I didnt say we had won, I just said you had failed, and I was refering to your bold statements when this war started, about how we would lose 1000 members the first week, and disband a couple of weeks later.

Besides, I hope we can continue to fight a bit longer. PvP is only fun if you have enemies to fight.

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Originally by: Jherek Cornelian

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Originally by: Darcuese

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that if there would be party competition by alliances, guess whose would be the best

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In answer to that question BoB or G.

As for you, your as weak as you say we are.

If you were stronger we wouldn't be in Tribute now.

If we were stronger you wouldn't be in H-PA.

All this talk on the forums from both sides is just hot air from people who are bored at work (this includes me)

Fact : You are not strong enough to evict us from Tribute.

Fact : We do not have the will to evict you, I'm not convinced we have the strength.

However without you we haven't much to do and I don't think it would be in our interests to get rid of you.

Without us you'd be bored as well.

It's what we spend our 10 quid a month on.

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Originally by: aeti

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Originally by: Jherek Cornelian

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However without you we haven't much to do and I don't think it would be in our interests to get rid of you.

Without us you'd be bored as well.

It's what we spend our 10 quid a month on.

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\o/

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Originally by: Blind Fear

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Generally, when trying to be a puppetmaster, it is considered good form not to wrap the strings around your neck and choke yourself.

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Originally by: Mangus Thermopyle

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Originally by: Tholarim

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Originally by: Mangus Thermopyle

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Buttom line is: Five has failed miserable to make us disband and/or leave Tribute, and that was what they said they would. Besides, not only have we survived this war and even become stronger for it, Five has lost almost 50% of its members.

So its understandably that ATUK sounds a little desperate. To first brag about your superiority, and then fail bigtime against "a bunch of carebears" (their words) really have to suck

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to quote someone: It ain't over till the fat lady sings.

And i would wait with claiming victory in this war if i was you.

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Well, I didnt say we had won, I just said you had failed, and I was refering to your bold statements when this war started, about how we would lose 1000 members the first week, and disband a couple of weeks later.

Besides, I hope we can continue to fight a bit longer. PvP is only fun if you have enemies to fight.

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