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 HUGO DRAX    |
Posted - 2005.12.19 15:02:00 -
[1] Edited by: HUGO DRAX on 19/12/2005 15:03:27 Okay it looks like the Macrominer software packages have been updated to some new code to handle RMR. #1 it seems they are now mining in 0.5 #2 they will fly 4-6 barges and 1 vexor to autotarget rats and fire on them. #3 they use a mammoth to hit. I have created a macrointel chat. we should all be on one page and discuss locations etc.. I am currently using locator agents to keep track of them. I would do the same, add them to your buddylist and then trace them down. If you want to see them one group is located in Augnais |
 Ralitge boyter |
Posted - 2005.12.19 15:28:00 -
[2] Your still at it  Please don't bother, they have been operating in this configuration for weeks now in some systems... It makes little to no sence at all to go after them and try and kill them as they will just start new accounts and mine some more. ------------------------------------------- Should you disagree with me, well I guess that is because I disagree with you. If you have a problem with that please feel free not to tell me. |
 Nigoal Tragotan |
Posted - 2005.12.19 15:34:00 -
[3] Can you give us some names and systems please? |
 Serpensis |
Posted - 2005.12.19 15:40:00 -
[4] What is the channel? -- "Fear accompanies the possibility of death, calm sheperds its certainty." |
 Cvuos |
Posted - 2005.12.19 15:43:00 -
[5] So locator agents work for you? Mine won't respond, I thought maybe the feature was temp out due to server issues or something. |
 HUGO DRAX |
Posted - 2005.12.19 16:08:00 -
[6] not yet I tried it today. so no luck. worked before RMR. but I got an idea of where they hang. I just got convoed by 1 and cussed out in broken english |
 Saleia |
Posted - 2005.12.19 16:17:00 -
[7] I think is fun to hunt these guys down. makes them play the game. Took down 1 Appoc, 2 mark v's and a mammoth just yesterday in .9 systems with the new loot can rules. And i did it with just a T1 Punisher. There are 3-4 Macro teams that work our area so there are plenty of targets. But they were getting smart and just leaving the cans after a while. Convo me or evemail me if anyone wants to gang up of need help. One did evemail me the following and i could not stop laughing for half an hour. " @#%$ you, you are PIGDOG!!!!!!" |
 Binary Mind |
Posted - 2005.12.19 16:32:00 -
[8] even before RMR I saw a group that stopped mining if another ship got too close to them. but replaceing their can with yours would still kill their hauler |
Saleia |
Posted - 2005.12.19 16:47:00 -
[9] Ya, they would deploy drones and target me. But never attack. I only attacked when they took the ore back from me switching the cans. |
High Sierra |
Posted - 2005.12.19 16:50:00 -
[10]
be interesting to see them do that since you cant train mining barges on trial accounts now. and if it means they buy accounts, that lessens their RL profit which is fine by me. |
 HUGO DRAX |
Posted - 2005.12.19 16:57:00 -
[11] we have some folks now in channel macrointel. so far the cruisers will engage the moment you get flagged. and I got convoed by the sweatshop operator cussing me out in poor english. asking for his stuff etc.. They were spotted in a 0.5 system AUGNAIS They are mining out the omber and plag, we already wiped them out of AUGNAIS and they had to leave after losing ships. |
 GM Rendo |
Posted - 2005.12.19 17:12:00 -
[12] It's nice to see that there are some inventive players out there. Eases the load on us a bit as we currently have our hands full.  |
Avon |
Posted - 2005.12.19 17:20:00 -
[13] A bit OT, but I'd just like to say thanks again to Rendo for unsticking me last night. I hope Santa has put you on the 'nice' list and you get everything you want for Christmas.  ______________________________________________ The Battleships is not and should not be a solo pwnmobile - Oveur |
 Bunny Wunny |
Posted - 2005.12.19 17:58:00 -
[14] you tell us what to do, and how to spot these blighters and I'll take care of their ore! |
 Sentinel Roqeze |
Posted - 2005.12.19 18:11:00 -
[15] My corp went on a run yesterday, basically looking to wreak some havok with the new flagging rules, and came across a bunch of macro-miners in Altrinur (0.8). This particular group were all in Apocs with 4 Hammerhead 1 drones per ship as defence, all hardpoints equipped with mining lasers. All in all we moved around 4M worth of ore from can to can before we got any reaction from them at all - and even then it was to simply stop mining and to target us without actually making a move to attack. All of a sudden the bulk of the group warped out at once, leaving one to try and reclaim some of the ore we'd moved hence flagging himself. One Apoc down, and 4M isk extra in the bank for us. We did encounter a small group of barges in the same system as well, but they refused to take from our cans... they clearly fit the macro profile, but would only take from their own gang's cans. We even tried renaming the cans we dropped to make them look like theirs, but to no avail. I wonder if some of them have managed to program the macro to recognise the "You will be flagged as a thief" message and leave any cans which bring it up. |
Saleia |
Posted - 2005.12.19 21:29:00 -
[16] After you loot there can, has anyone tryed to shoot back? Does concord step in on you? And if you're in gang can they shoot back? Or do they have to be aggroed first? Can corp memebers shoot back? If no one has i'm going to test this out tonight. |
 Corvus Dove |
Posted - 2005.12.19 21:31:00 -
[17]
If they have, what it's actually doing is probably not clicking through the window at all. SO surround them with cans, and when the macroer comes back to the keys for that computer he'll nto be able to see what the hell is going on. ----------------------------------------------- MAKE THE MACROERS SCREAM |
 MysticNZ |
Posted - 2005.12.19 21:35:00 -
[18] There is one script they use and it gets updated weekly. If CPP wished, they could identify the program. I have even sent it to them along with the script they are using to attempt to block it. No word yet. -                     |
Filan |
Posted - 2005.12.19 21:47:00 -
[19] sadly they cant do much about macromining on a gameplay level, EQ2 tried fighting macrocrafting with its annoying "Whack-a-mole" system and it just drives legit players to use programs..... |
Sentinel Roqeze |
Posted - 2005.12.19 21:57:00 -
[20]
None of them attacked us when we looted the cans. One fought back when we attacked after he flagged himself, but he only had drones and they were quickly taken care of. All corp members were able to KOS, they saw the flag, though one gang member who is a friend but not in the corp received the "You are about to commit a crime" warning when he attempted to open fire, so kept his missiles to himself. This confused me, as I was led to believe that flagging worked for all gang members, but in this case it didn't seem to. |
Kim Chee |
Posted - 2005.12.19 21:58:00 -
[21] Fantastic! I love seeing macrominers get smacked around. They make it hard for us real miners to make a living without resorting to combat (see the drop in ore prices over the last 3-6 months... ugh). A punisher vs. an apocalypse? HAHAHA! Maybe I'll have to drag a few of my spare frigates out... :) Vila Restal: I'm entitled to my opinion. Kerr Avon: It is your assumption that we are entitled to it as well that is irritating. |
Fashion Bug |
Posted - 2005.12.19 22:21:00 -
[22] WOOT!!! KILLING MARCOMINERS ROCKS!!!!! |
High Sierra |
Posted - 2005.12.19 22:24:00 -
[23] i need to speak to someone about the new flagging rules and how they work. could someone evemail me a quick rundown please? |
Sarqindi |
Posted - 2005.12.19 22:34:00 -
[24] Can you use Tractor Beams on cans you don't own? If so, wouldn't it be fun to move the macrominers cans around a bit? |
Cleric JohnPreston |
Posted - 2005.12.19 22:37:00 -
[25] Congradulations eveyone whos taking part. By the sounds of it when the MM`ers operators respond to you via hatemail your doing your job and giving them a hard time making isk. Well done and keep up the good work. |
Squelch |
Posted - 2005.12.19 22:37:00 -
[26] I have found that if you make a gang with your buddies and then have a macro/isk farmer aggress you, not all of your gang can actually shoot back. If you make the gang and then jump into a different system it seems to fix the problem and all gang members can attack when one is aggressed. So it seems to need a system jump before it works properly. |
Delboy Trotter |
Posted - 2005.12.19 22:49:00 -
[27] This is most interesting , I am a returning player having been out of the game for many months and have been looking for something to occupy myself with and taking on the macro miners sounds right . could someone plz post details of any orginisations or channels ingame that concern this area of operations as i would like to make some contacts , how for example do you tell a macro operation from a legitimate player operation ? I look forward to seeing you out there |
Lassivarien |
Posted - 2005.12.19 22:49:00 -
[28] There have been some operating out of Jarizza in Derelik region for a few days now. All I saw was retrievers and a mammoth though. |
Arele |
Posted - 2005.12.19 23:12:00 -
[29] Edited by: Arele on 19/12/2005 23:15:04 Legit corp players usually aren't named fjdlsfs, mineking12, loveboy, 04jdsflsdlf, etc. Add to this legit players usually don't stand by while you steal their ore without at least saying something, or when you bump them, or lock them, or convo them, or speak in local to them, etc. Anti-macro is one channel I know of as well. |
HUGO DRAX |
Posted - 2005.12.19 23:14:00 -
[30] the channel is macrointel and if someone would be nice enough to put up a forum to post names and systems it would make it easier to spot the patterns. anyhow to kill them this is what you can do. #1 identify the jetcan that is being used by the macrominer #2 put some ore into your cargo (you are now flagged) and the jettison it to a new jetcan #3 move all the ore to your jetcan and make sure you rename it the same way as the macrominers can. #4 what will happen is the hauler will come to pick up the ore and the moment it takes it out of your can you can now shoot (he will show up flashing red in overview) You do not lose sec status for this or get concorded. Some of the more sophisticated software packages use countermeasures such as multiple cans with long names making it harder for you to swap all of them out due to the minimum time to send out a new can. Some of them (the ones operating in 0.8-0.5) will have a gunner and so far they have been vexors with drones and 200mm carbide railguns. The Vexors will aggro you the moment you touch the ore on the macrominers can and get flagged. you might want to take care not to lose a ship, be sure you know you can tank and gank it. I have seen some of the sweatshop operators actually convo you and smacktalk in real poor english so obviously there is an operator live at the helm at times. I have heard reports that they will not touch the can if they see you next to it now, so best thing to do is cloaked stealth bombers. I was also told if you set the macros to +10 standing they will not get a warning when taking ore from your can (anyone test this?) |
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