The recent buff to T1 logi has completely thrown off the delicate balance between small gangs/solo and blobs in Eve. What serious small gangs can engage is seriously limited now by the fact that remote reps are mandatory due to their prevalence.

As is stands right now (with logi being required to be on grid), blobs have a significant advantage becuase their expensive and vulnerable logi ships are safe in the swarm of bads surrounding them. As a small gang PvPer trying to engage a larger gang, you cannot afford this luxury, and are thus damned to not being able to use the huge force multiplier that remote rep gives, try as you might to use a fast repping ship that stays 70+ km away. Even there, it is far too vulnerable.

So, idea: move remote rep off grid. They already don't show up on killmails, so it's not as if the battle report changes -- it's still the same combatants. This way, small gangs and soloers can have the same force multipliers that blobs full of space-rich people can afford, narrowing the performance gap and thus buffing small gang PvP.

Other advantages:

• Not required to be on grid = lower SP requirements. Not only does this buff small gang PvP, it is an improvement to the new player experience by enhancing a newbie role and making it more accessible.
• More usefulness for the combat scanner role, in order to hunt down super-vulnerable RR ships.
• More at-the-keyboard play, as the RR pilots will have to be constantly vigilant to watch for being caught.
• Using RR ships inside a POS is a great buff to people who think ahead and are prepared for fights by having POSes set up. Reward infrastructure and forethought, CCP!

Seriously, the current state of RR is unacceptable. Either find a way to make remote reps benefit all, or remove them from the game.

Buff small gang PvP: move logi off-grid.

While you're at it, can you request for my ship to not have to be on grip to do PvP? Completely logged off and enver losing would be awesome.

I like where this is going.....off-grid warp disruptions, webs and neuts soon to follow!

Pfft, who needs that when I can just load up 8 off-grid Large Smart bombs and cover the whole solar system at the same time? You think small gang roams are dead now...

Never not smartbomb all the gates.

The recent buff to T1 logi has completely thrown off the delicate balance between small gangs/solo and blobs in Eve.

How about cyno doomsday while we are at it?

I hope this is a troll. If it's an ironic statement, against the use of On Grid Boosts, then I applaud you sir.

If your actually serious than your ******* idiot.

They're not supposed to be "balanced."

move PvP off-grid as well. Shooting people from inside a POS bubble just shows foresight and planning: CCP should reward that!

It's pretty well done. In fact, appears to be a copy and paste, with "off grid boosts" replaced with "logi".

I don't even know anymore.

How about we give POSes engines and fly them around?

Posting in a stealth don't nerf OGB thread. Or not stealth - I don't even know anymore.

Move all ships off grid, and give everyone 1000 random Km's everyday. Prob solved your welcome.

I want to be able to lock people and shoot them off grid.

Off grid combat.

Then you can be repped by a logi who is off grid from you but also off grid from me.

We can both be boosted by people who are off grid from us and each other.

Maybe ill put a solar panel on my ship...and itll be off the grid.

ill change my ships name and erase its existence from all computer databases, ill keep it away from all cameras and law enforcement, and it can live off grid.

The only thing on grid, will be the grid. Unless there is grid-fu. Then even the grid wont be on grid.

What if theres a grid within a grid? Gridception.

What if we all realize the truth... there is no grid.

The recent buff to T1 logi has completely thrown off the delicate balance between small gangs/solo and blobs in Eve. What serious small gangs can engage is seriously limited now by the fact that remote reps are mandatory due to their prevalence.

As is stands right now (with logi being required to be on grid), blobs have a significant advantage becuase their expensive and vulnerable logi ships are safe in the swarm of bads surrounding them. As a small gang PvPer trying to engage a larger gang, you cannot afford this luxury, and are thus damned to not being able to use the huge force multiplier that remote rep gives, try as you might to use a fast repping ship that stays 70+ km away. Even there, it is far too vulnerable.

So, idea: move remote rep off grid. They already don't show up on killmails, so it's not as if the battle report changes -- it's still the same combatants. This way, small gangs and soloers can have the same force multipliers that blobs full of space-rich people can afford, narrowing the performance gap and thus buffing small gang PvP.

Other advantages:

• Not required to be on grid = lower SP requirements. Not only does this buff small gang PvP, it is an improvement to the new player experience by enhancing a newbie role and making it more accessible.
• More usefulness for the combat scanner role, in order to hunt down super-vulnerable RR ships.
• More at-the-keyboard play, as the RR pilots will have to be constantly vigilant to watch for being caught.
• Using RR ships inside a POS is a great buff to people who think ahead and are prepared for fights by having POSes set up. Reward infrastructure and forethought, CCP!
• Ed: Another advantage! Since super vulnerable logi ships don't have to be on grid, all small gangs/solo PvPers can have logi! This bridges the performance gap with blobs, making for better balance and fairer gameplay.

Seriously, the current state of RR is unacceptable. Either find a way to make remote reps benefit all, or remove them from the game.

Edit: Hmm... I just realized a problem. RR is targeted and targeting is not a thing when you're off grid.

How about this? You can rep everyone in your squad/wing/fleet at the same time, but it's only by a little bit (15% or something). That's of course followed up by bonuses and skills, but it should be balanced, right?

So in case a station or pos needs reps you can do it inside a forcefield aswell ?
Anyway, there is no more solo pvp in eve its dead and has been dead for a very long time.

People dislike being killed no matter what they fly, even if you fly a tech 1 cruiser and you get blown up by a group of 10 it just sucks.
So what do players do ? They form a 10 player fleet to fight this other 10 player fleet.
This one in turn goes and becomes a 15 player fleet, its a simple evolution in what happens when a game gets more and more players.

The recent buff to T1 logi has completely thrown off the delicate balance between small gangs/solo and blobs in Eve. What serious small gangs can engage is seriously limited now by the fact that remote reps are mandatory due to their prevalence.

As is stands right now (with logi being required to be on grid), blobs have a significant advantage becuase their expensive and vulnerable logi ships are safe in the swarm of bads surrounding them. As a small gang PvPer trying to engage a larger gang, you cannot afford this luxury, and are thus damned to not being able to use the huge force multiplier that remote rep gives, try as you might to use a fast repping ship that stays 70+ km away. Even there, it is far too vulnerable.

So, idea: move remote rep off grid. They already don't show up on killmails, so it's not as if the battle report changes -- it's still the same combatants. This way, small gangs and soloers can have the same force multipliers that blobs full of space-rich people can afford, narrowing the performance gap and thus buffing small gang PvP.

Other advantages:

• Not required to be on grid = lower SP requirements. Not only does this buff small gang PvP, it is an improvement to the new player experience by enhancing a newbie role and making it more accessible.
• More usefulness for the combat scanner role, in order to hunt down super-vulnerable RR ships.
• More at-the-keyboard play, as the RR pilots will have to be constantly vigilant to watch for being caught.
• Using RR ships inside a POS is a great buff to people who think ahead and are prepared for fights by having POSes set up. Reward infrastructure and forethought, CCP!
• Ed: Another advantage! Since super vulnerable logi ships don't have to be on grid, all small gangs/solo PvPers can have logi! This bridges the performance gap with blobs, making for better balance and fairer gameplay.

Seriously, the current state of RR is unacceptable. Either find a way to make remote reps benefit all, or remove them from the game.

Edit: Hmm... I just realized a problem. RR is targeted and targeting is not a thing when you're off grid.

How about this? You can rep everyone in your squad/wing/fleet at the same time, but it's only by a little bit (15% or something). That's of course followed up by bonuses and skills, but it should be balanced, right?

The recent buff to T1 logi has completely thrown off the delicate balance between small gangs/solo and blobs in Eve. What serious small gangs can engage is seriously limited now by the fact that remote reps are mandatory due to their prevalence.

As is stands right now (with logi being required to be on grid), blobs have a significant advantage becuase their expensive and vulnerable logi ships are safe in the swarm of bads surrounding them. As a small gang PvPer trying to engage a larger gang, you cannot afford this luxury, and are thus damned to not being able to use the huge force multiplier that remote rep gives, try as you might to use a fast repping ship that stays 70+ km away. Even there, it is far too vulnerable.

So, idea: move remote rep off grid. They already don't show up on killmails, so it's not as if the battle report changes -- it's still the same combatants. This way, small gangs and soloers can have the same force multipliers that blobs full of space-rich people can afford, narrowing the performance gap and thus buffing small gang PvP.

Other advantages:

• Not required to be on grid = lower SP requirements. Not only does this buff small gang PvP, it is an improvement to the new player experience by enhancing a newbie role and making it more accessible.
• More usefulness for the combat scanner role, in order to hunt down super-vulnerable RR ships.
• More at-the-keyboard play, as the RR pilots will have to be constantly vigilant to watch for being caught.
• Using RR ships inside a POS is a great buff to people who think ahead and are prepared for fights by having POSes set up. Reward infrastructure and forethought, CCP!
• Ed: Another advantage! Since super vulnerable logi ships don't have to be on grid, all small gangs/solo PvPers can have logi! This bridges the performance gap with blobs, making for better balance and fairer gameplay.

Seriously, the current state of RR is unacceptable. Either find a way to make remote reps benefit all, or remove them from the game.

Edit: Hmm... I just realized a problem. RR is targeted and targeting is not a thing when you're off grid.

How about this? You can rep everyone in your squad/wing/fleet at the same time, but it's only by a little bit (15% or something). That's of course followed up by bonuses and skills, but it should be balanced, right?

So basically, the idea you are proposing is to remove the logistics role in fleets and substitute it with some AoE/Squad Repping system?

This idea just helps the blobs even more as they will simply be able to alpha through any of these 'aoe reps' with impunity and logistics won't be able to respond to critically low fleet members.

Also, the t1 logi cruisers are really not that difficult to train into. It's a short-training time and does provide a great introduction to the logistics role.

While you're at it, can you request for my ship to not have to be on grip to do PvP? Completely logged off and enver losing would be awesome.

If you're so outnumbered in a fight that your guys are getting alpha'd without a chance to remote rep, you probably shouldn't have taken that fight.

That, or you didn't bring enough reps. Geez, do I have to explain everything to you people? Have any of you ever PvPed, even?

Wouldn't a 500 vs 500 fight be one where you are not outnumbered but reps still won't hold against the massive alpha?

I like where this is going.....off-grid warp disruptions, webs and neuts soon to follow!