I have to say that I don't think that there is really anyone here who seriously wants "Barbies in Space" (really, I don't even know WTF that means and I assume it was just a slur created by the spaceship elitists).

Originally, the concept of "Walking in Station" explicitly excluded all forms of combat and was conceived as a pure social platform with meeting rooms, bars and casinos- not even bar fights intended. (I am too lazy to find the old devblog now)

Glad they abandoned that concept, since it wouldn't have fitted into EVE at all.
Either make WiS as brutal as the rest of the game (and risk EVE getting an adult rating) or don't bother with it at all.
my 2 cents.

But what about game assets like those: http://games.chruker.dk/eve_online/item.php?type_id=2676
This is my protection in the station. They also guard the monolith.

The rating issue is a valid one.

Perhaps when you kill a clone it could simply pop like a soap bubble and instantly transform into a pile of belongings and empty clothing. Sort of like how our spaceships already do.

I agree, all of EVE needs risk and danger to it, and stations should cease to be the havens of impenetrable safety they are right now. But at the same time, I don't agree that the social platform with meeting rooms, bars and casinos was incompatible with EVE.

Player hangouts, gambling, a place to call your own or do stuff in while it's too dangerous to go outside or whatever, that's all perfectly fine. Surely a friendly low-stakes poker game with your mates during time you'd otherwise spend ship-spinning isn't incompatible with the setting? I don't see how EVE could possible be damaged by providing more opportunities for player interaction, both friendly and otherwise.

Remember, co-operative, friendly gameplay is part of the game too. That's why you need a friend to help grab the scattercans in hacking sites, and why you need fleet members and corpmates and stuff.

I agree, all of EVE needs risk and danger to it, and stations should cease to be the havens of impenetrable safety they are right now. But at the same time, I don't agree that the social platform with meeting rooms, bars and casinos was incompatible with EVE.

Player hangouts, gambling, a place to call your own or do stuff in while it's too dangerous to go outside or whatever, that's all perfectly fine. Surely a friendly low-stakes poker game with your mates during time you'd otherwise spend ship-spinning isn't incompatible with the setting? I don't see how EVE could possible be damaged by providing more opportunities for player interaction, both friendly and otherwise.

Remember, co-operative, friendly gameplay is part of the game too. That's why you need a friend to help grab the scattercans in hacking sites, and why you need fleet members and corpmates and stuff.

Well if you're using DUST as a reason that the Carbon engine was a success you've already lost the argument. DUST was an aborted fetus the day it was announced as a console-only title. Honestly the sooner it goes away the better off Eve players will be. CCP has a tendency to lose focus on what matters.



I wasn't even trolling. Once again Goons managed to save the playerbase from itself when we helped CCP refocus on core Eve gameplay.

Cos let's face it without the Goons, CCP would have folded years ago and nobody would ever play eve....

Pretty much.

What a good little grunt you are.

What a good little grunt you are.

Since you are new around here, I have read similar threads like this one and the tune they play is the same. I have yet to see one that presents solid arguments why CCP should dedicate dev time (which means MONEY) into implementing WiS when the vast majority of players do not want WiS when there is more pressing issues at hand than to implement something that literally is just fluff.

and no, abandoning WIS is not an option.

IDK, I think he's more of a goon fanboy than an actual goon.

I mean, he's not even in their Alliance.

I guess that makes him more like the tween girl to their Justin Bieber.

They have already abandoned it. They certainly aren't going to go back to it while DUST is on its deathbed and WoD is vaporware.

I was actually being sarcastic, I'm not a fan of the goons, hence my derision, I thought most people would have realised, apologies for being unclear.

Explain Team Avatar then.

How much WiS content has been added to the game since the last of the CQs were added?

I was actually being sarcastic, I'm not a fan of the goons, hence my derision, I thought most people would have realised, apologies for being unclear.

Just checked my post only to find that jujumagumboo edited my quote by lopping the tail off to distort the meaning, which is a dirty, underhand politicians trick. Goes to show he'll do anything to advance his argument even editing quotes, makes him look very desperate indeed lol. It should also tell you that he has lost, both morally and tactically.

It's on the backburner, according to the devs.

So facebook with beer and hookers?

Maybe my vision of WiS slightly differs from the stereotypical "Barbies in Space"- but I can give you a compelling reason in a single word:

Fear.


Nowhere should be safe in Eve, danger should be everywhere.
Fear makes people dock up in stations.
Fear makes CEOs tell their corp not to undock during war.

Now fear should drive these people out of the station again- since staying in a confined station full of enemies should be more dangerous than trying to undock and flee into open space or just fight your way out.

Davon said it pretty well.



Walking in Station wasn't why so little was done over that time. You can blame it on "WiS Developement" all you want, but we never got WiS... we got racial themed prison rooms after two years of Carbon development. If you think it took them two years to make those rooms then your fooling yourself. Carbon has been a god send, making things like the V3 textures, time dilation and other things possible. That's what they did over those two years. Just because the first thing they released was the captains quarters doesn't mean that's what they spend that time doing. Have you any idea how much resources are required to make a games engine? That why we saw so little content over that time.

To use your words, "how many times" does this have to be explained to you?

How many times do we have to repeat that Incarna WAS NOT THE WiS , THEY PROMISED?

I wasn't there when Jita burned and the monument was demolished in those riots just before the unsubscribes, but I remember getting the sense that the reason behind the massive walk-offs had to do with pay to win and CCP's crazy idea for micro-transactions... WiS was not what did it. Pay to win and outlandish micro-transactions was what caused the rebellion.