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Niki Silver
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Posted - 2005.12.22 22:25:00 -
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I see the new mining upgrades skill has been added to the market but I am still unabled to find BPO's for the mining upgrade modules.
Can anyone tell me if these have been released yet? And if yes, wich npc corp is selling them?
Thank you
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Blitz Hacker
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Posted - 2005.12.23 07:22:00 -
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To my knowledge those upgrades along with the T2 barges are not in game as of yet; either they're getting added to the market (presumably ore region) or doin the t2 R&D lotto I dunno. So far nothing is in game; I've asked in several threads and got -this- responce.
So lovley to have the new 'content' would be nice to actually have it in the game tho :)
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VodkaMan
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Posted - 2005.12.23 07:34:00 -
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Actually, T2 barges already in game ! But Mining Upgrade modules - not !
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Niki Silver
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Posted - 2005.12.27 10:19:00 -
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-bump- Any news on these things?
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Tuxford
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Posted - 2005.12.27 11:06:00 -
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Are you sure the blueprint is not sold on market? The modules wouldn't show up unless a player actually manufactures it and puts it on market so the module might not show up for sale in every region. I'll look into this as soon as tq comes back up.
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Kipkruide
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Posted - 2005.12.27 11:23:00 -
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did you check the ore systems in cloud ring, that's where the barges bpo's are would stand to reason the other upgrades are there as well
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solidshot
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Posted - 2005.12.27 11:24:00 -
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 Originally by: Tuxford
Are you sure the blueprint is not sold on market? The modules wouldn't show up unless a player actually manufactures it and puts it on market so the module might not show up for sale in every region. I'll look into this as soon as tq comes back up.
i havnt checked 0.0 but every other region i've looked at i've not seen them
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Mnengli Noiliffe
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Posted - 2005.12.27 11:43:00 -
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Please also check the Combat Drone Turret Stabilizer I and Drone Navigation Computer I bpos. They seem to be absent anywhere in EVE, even in those stantions that have NPC supply of other new drone modules' bpos (such as CreoDron stations in Essence region).
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VodkaMan
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Posted - 2005.12.27 12:37:00 -
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I just checked Outer Ring region - no any new BPO
Nor ice upgrade, nor mining lser upgrade, nor drone damage or navigation modules 
PS: covetor bpo still selling there 
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Brannigan McCormick
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Posted - 2005.12.27 14:13:00 -
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Standard fare, promise miners the world, deliver a small part of Kentucky 
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franny
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Posted - 2005.12.27 14:20:00 -
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not even Kentucky, more like a small part of RI
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Chuckar
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Posted - 2005.12.27 16:34:00 -
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Any news on the Mining laser upgrades?
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Logan Leopold
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Posted - 2005.12.27 16:48:00 -
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I have been really disappointed with the lack of a response regarding missing patch content. Tuxford is the first dev/staff member I can find responding to any of the missing mining (or other missing modules) related equipment forum threads. Thanks for checking this out for us.
From the official RMR patch PR page:
Four new skills, three new Leadership modules, and two mining upgrade modules-one for ice, and the other for ore-are added with RMR, plus four new hardwiring implants and a leadership implant (Mindlink).
- I can only find two new mining related skills... Mining Upgrades and Exhumers.
- I can't find any mining related leadership modules for sale. They are not even listed on the market. (Yes, I have the 'Show Only Avaialble' checkbox unchecked).
- The two mining related upgrade modules are listed but they are not for sale and neither are the BPO's. I have been scouring the markets for days. Both of these modules are tech level 1 items... so I am assuming that they are not handed out in the lottery system.
- I cant find a single listing for a mining related implant
If I am wrong and these things are actually on the market, or there is a long expected delay on seeing them, I just want an official response about it.
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Sarmaul
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Posted - 2005.12.27 16:49:00 -
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january
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VodkaMan
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Posted - 2005.12.27 17:20:00 -
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Originally by: Logan Leopold
- I cant find a single listing for a mining related implant
Implants already have - they dropped from rats in 4lvl missions:
Hardwiring - 'Highwall' HX-1 gives +3% ore
Hardwiring - 'Highwall' HX-2 gives +5% ore
Hardwiring - Inherent 'Yeti' BX-1 gives -3% ice harvester cycle time
Hardwiring - Inherent 'Yeti' BX-2 gives -5% ice harvester cycle time
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Logan Leopold
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Posted - 2005.12.27 17:23:00 -
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Originally by: VodkaMan
Originally by: Logan Leopold
- I cant find a single listing for a mining related implant
Implants already have - they dropped from rats in 4lvl missions:
Hardwiring - 'Highwall' HX-1 gives +3% ore
Hardwiring - 'Highwall' HX-2 gives +5% ore
Hardwiring - Inherent 'Yeti' BX-1 gives -3% ice harvester cycle time
Hardwiring - Inherent 'Yeti' BX-2 gives -5% ice harvester cycle time
Cool! Good to know these are out there... thanks for the info.
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BlueSmok
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Posted - 2005.12.27 18:34:00 -
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Still no BPO's even in outer ring :(
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VodkaMan
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Posted - 2005.12.27 19:24:00 -
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Looks like, CCP decide to delay mining stuff to january 
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LUKEC
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Posted - 2005.12.27 19:35:00 -
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what about modulated deep core strip miner II?
I want to use skiff, lol.
HatePeace LoveWar[ATUK] >
they ebayed the bs for
grain
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Rafein
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Posted - 2005.12.27 19:44:00 -
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Well, the skill was unavailable until last few days, and were released without waring.
So wonder if they are just slowly adding them
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Chromagnon
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Posted - 2005.12.27 23:07:00 -
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BUMP
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VodkaMan
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Posted - 2005.12.28 06:48:00 -
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Originally by: Rafein
Well, the skill was unavailable until last few days, and were released without waring.
Which skill ? Exhumers and Mining Upgrade skills, that currently available on market, was released right after RmR...
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Narcoz
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Posted - 2005.12.28 07:34:00 -
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Yes bring us the modulated deep core strip miner II....
Skiff is useless without it...well its perfect for ninja mining with a modulated strip miner
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LUKEC
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Posted - 2005.12.28 09:06:00 -
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Originally by: Narcoz
Yes bring us the modulated deep core strip miner II....
Skiff is useless without it...well its perfect for ninja mining with a modulated strip miner
haha... but then i'd rather have smallest barge as it would do fine too. Or hulk and simply tank it.
HatePeace LoveWar[ATUK] >
they ebayed the bs for
grain
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VodkaMan
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Posted - 2005.12.28 09:36:00 -
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Originally by: LUKEC
Originally by: Narcoz
Yes bring us the modulated deep core strip miner II....
Skiff is useless without it...well its perfect for ninja mining with a modulated strip miner
haha... but then i'd rather have smallest barge as it would do fine too. Or hulk and simply tank it.
I think, Skiff can mine mercoxit much effectively than any t1 or t2 barge...
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Sarqindi
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Posted - 2005.12.28 15:22:00 -
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Originally by: Tuxford
Are you sure the blueprint is not sold on market? The modules wouldn't show up unless a player actually manufactures it and puts it on market so the module might not show up for sale in every region. I'll look into this as soon as tq comes back up.
It's still missing in the 2 regions I've checked after dt today.
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Sykosys
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Posted - 2005.12.28 15:26:00 -
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Is it possible to get a response as to why none of these mods or BPO's have been released
Also when are the gang leadership mining skills going to be released??
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Blastomy
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Posted - 2005.12.29 05:07:00 -
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I've been looking forward to these as well, I've already got mining upgrades to lvl 4, now just need a module to use the skill on. |
Narcoz
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Posted - 2005.12.29 12:50:00 -
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Yey they are in....
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VodkaMan
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Posted - 2005.12.29 13:19:00 -
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Edited by: VodkaMan on 29/12/2005 13:23:54
At last, Mining Laser Upgrade and Ice Harvester Upgrade BPOs in game now !
BPO cost about 250000, so don't buy it at 2.5mil in escrow 
Now waiting for leadership skills and modules...
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Kery Nysell
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Posted - 2005.12.29 14:09:00 -
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Can't find them in The Forge ... do I have to go to 0.0 to find those, or are they already sold out in Empire ?
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VodkaMan
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Posted - 2005.12.29 14:31:00 -
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They selling in empire, i saw in Sinq Laison, Essence and Outer Ring
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Kery Nysell
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Posted - 2005.12.29 14:47:00 -
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Thank you, I'll move a bit and try to find one :p
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Testnissa
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Posted - 2005.12.29 23:47:00 -
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Edited by: Testnissa on 29/12/2005 23:51:24
Does the Mining Laser Upgrade I affect Stripminers or only standard Mining Lasers?
Hey! I changed to my main char and this bad excuse of a message board changed it back to another one I don't use? Gimme a break...
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kurtz abraham
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Posted - 2005.12.30 00:11:00 -
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i have just found that the Ice upgrade mod appears to do nothing, i have fitted 2 to my hulk and tested with them on and off, i get the exhumer skill bonus but no cycle time reduction from the mods. I have used 2 of the ore ones and they work fine, they even show in the ore ammount on the fitted lasers info. Havn't tried them on the coveter yet as the ship was donated to a corp member.
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Aidan Syn
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Posted - 2005.12.30 01:22:00 -
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The Mining Laser Upgrade does have an effect on strip miners. However, according to my calculations, it is impossible to fit 2 of these mods on a Covetor even with maxed Electronics and Mining Upgrades. Also, they do not lower the cycle time as the description says, they provide a bonus to mining yield.
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Roc Maklos
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Posted - 2005.12.30 01:53:00 -
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Originally by: Aidan Syn
The Mining Laser Upgrade does have an effect on strip miners. However, according to my calculations, it is impossible to fit 2 of these mods on a Covetor even with maxed Electronics and Mining Upgrades. Also, they do not lower the cycle time as the description says, they provide a bonus to mining yield.
Then your calculations are terribly wrong. Strip Miner requires 30 cpu normally. Each mod adds 10 percent to that. So you have 30 * 1.10 = 33
Assuming you have 2, that is 30 * 1.10 * 1.10 = 36.3
Times 3 lasers = 108.9
Each mod is 30 cpu = 60 + 108.9 = 168.9 cpu.
The covetor has 200 base cpu, which is more than enough to fit them. Now I haven't had a chance to test this so I could be wrong, but it makes sense to me.
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Flori04
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Posted - 2005.12.30 02:10:00 -
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wtf?.. w/o ice harv upgrade my mining cycle takes 450 seconds.. with ice upgrades my cycle takes 454.27 seconds ???!!!!!
there is also no other modification.. so WTF???
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Aidan Syn
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Posted - 2005.12.30 02:12:00 -
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Edited by: Aidan Syn on 30/12/2005 02:13:27
Roc, Sorry to say, but I think you're a bit off with your calculations...a Strip Miner on a barge takes 60 CPU. With 2 Mining Upgrades (but Mining Upgrades only at lvl 1) the Strip Miner I will take exactly 72.6 CPU each. If I am correctly understanding the bonus from the Mining Upgrade skill they lasers would be reduced to 64.5 CPU with Mining Upgrades at lvl 5, so the 3 lasers would then take up 193.5 CPU. Add 60 CPU for the 2 mining upgrade mods and you're at 253.5 which is more CPU than the barge will have even with Electronics lvl 5.
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Roid Sucker
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Posted - 2005.12.30 02:24:00 -
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Originally by: Roc Maklos
Originally by: Aidan Syn
The Mining Laser Upgrade does have an effect on strip miners. However, according to my calculations, it is impossible to fit 2 of these mods on a Covetor even with maxed Electronics and Mining Upgrades. Also, they do not lower the cycle time as the description says, they provide a bonus to mining yield.
Then your calculations are terribly wrong. Strip Miner requires 30 cpu normally. Each mod adds 10 percent to that. So you have 30 * 1.10 = 33
Assuming you have 2, that is 30 * 1.10 * 1.10 = 36.3
Times 3 lasers = 108.9
Each mod is 30 cpu = 60 + 108.9 = 168.9 cpu.
The covetor has 200 base cpu, which is more than enough to fit them. Now I haven't had a chance to test this so I could be wrong, but it makes sense to me.
strip miner is 60 cpu, not 30.
I think these were designed to fit only 1 on a covetor, and 2 on a hulk.
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Roc Maklos
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Posted - 2005.12.30 02:42:00 -
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Originally by: Roid Sucker
Originally by: Roc Maklos
Originally by: Aidan Syn
The Mining Laser Upgrade does have an effect on strip miners. However, according to my calculations, it is impossible to fit 2 of these mods on a Covetor even with maxed Electronics and Mining Upgrades. Also, they do not lower the cycle time as the description says, they provide a bonus to mining yield.
Then your calculations are terribly wrong. Strip Miner requires 30 cpu normally. Each mod adds 10 percent to that. So you have 30 * 1.10 = 33
Assuming you have 2, that is 30 * 1.10 * 1.10 = 36.3
Times 3 lasers = 108.9
Each mod is 30 cpu = 60 + 108.9 = 168.9 cpu.
The covetor has 200 base cpu, which is more than enough to fit them. Now I haven't had a chance to test this so I could be wrong, but it makes sense to me.
strip miner is 60 cpu, not 30.
I think these were designed to fit only 1 on a covetor, and 2 on a hulk.
Doh, I always make that mistake. Thinking it's 30. Thanks for pointing that out.
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Vmir Gallahasen
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Posted - 2005.12.30 04:13:00 -
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Actually, the Mining Upgrades skill reduces cpu requirements of mining upgrade modules
60 tf base cpu for strip miners, + 10%^2 for 2 mods = 72.6 tf each
60 tf base cpu for mining upgrade I, -20% for L4 = 48 tf cpu
That gives you a total of 265.8 tf to fit 3 strip miners and 2 mining upgrades 
I don't mine though, so don't blame me if I turn out to be wrong
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VodkaMan
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Posted - 2005.12.30 07:59:00 -
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I tryed to fit 5 mining upgrade modules to indy with MDCM2 - now it mines really cool for afk mining 
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Maxlis
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Posted - 2005.12.30 08:56:00 -
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Is it just me or is the CPU decrease bonus of the mining upgrades skill not working right? Like, at all. Before and after I hit level 2 with the skill, my covetor still took the same ammount of CPU. I unfitted and refitted the module to see if that would change the values and it didn't.
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VodkaMan
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Posted - 2005.12.30 09:50:00 -
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Originally by: Maxlis
Is it just me or is the CPU decrease bonus of the mining upgrades skill not working right? Like, at all. Before and after I hit level 2 with the skill, my covetor still took the same ammount of CPU. I unfitted and refitted the module to see if that would change the values and it didn't.
Sometimes skills don't applyed - try to relogin and look again
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don DiegoAlamris
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Posted - 2005.12.30 10:03:00 -
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Originally by: Vmir Gallahasen
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60 tf base cpu for strip miners, + 10%^2 for 2 mods = 72.6 tf each
60 tf base cpu for mining upgrade I * 2, -20% for L4 = 48 tf cpu
That gives you a total of 265.8 tf to fit 3 strip miners and 2 mining upgrades ..
I have mining upgrades on lvl4 , but I can't put 2 "minig upgarade I" on my covetor. may be need more in skills in "weapon upgarades", it reduce CPU usage from launcher & turrets?
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VodkaMan
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Posted - 2005.12.30 10:23:00 -
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Originally by: don DiegoAlamris
I have mining upgrades on lvl4 , but I can't put 2 "minig upgarade I" on my covetor. may be need more in skills in "weapon upgarades", it reduce CPU usage from launcher & turrets?
Weapon Upgrades don't affect mining lasers and, yes, you can't put 2 mining upgrade modules on Covetor, even with Mining Upgrade skill 5 - only to Hulk
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Boshart
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Posted - 2005.12.30 12:07:00 -
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on lvl1 the cpu was 30, and on lvl2 the cpu is still 30 , bug ? or i am reading not right
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Kery Nysell
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Posted - 2005.12.30 13:49:00 -
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Originally by: Maxlis
Is it just me or is the CPU decrease bonus of the mining upgrades skill not working right? Like, at all. Before and after I hit level 2 with the skill, my covetor still took the same ammount of CPU. I unfitted and refitted the module to see if that would change the values and it didn't.
Same here.
I use MDCM IIs on my mining apoc : 80 CPU base, 88 with the Mining Laser Upgrade I onlined ... I have the Mining Upgrades skill at 2, it should be 87.2 ...
I tried refitting, relogging, waiting for the downtime, nothing works, that "5% bonus reduction in cpu penalty of mining upgrades." is simply not there at the moment.
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herot
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Posted - 2005.12.30 14:15:00 -
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Edited by: herot on 30/12/2005 14:16:45
Edited by: herot on 30/12/2005 14:16:37
As I understand it the skill only affect the CPU need of the upgrade modules. Not CPU req. of the mining lasers themselfs. I this correct?
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Maxlis
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Posted - 2005.12.30 17:06:00 -
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No, it's not correct, because at current it's not effecting either stat.
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Malena
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Posted - 2005.12.30 17:10:00 -
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Originally by: herot
Edited by: herot on 30/12/2005 14:16:45
Edited by: herot on 30/12/2005 14:16:37
As I understand it the skill only affect the CPU need of the upgrade modules. Not CPU req. of the mining lasers themselfs. I this correct?
Well, this might be the intended purpose, but it isn't working either. The upgrade on my covetor shows 30 cpu when on the ship and when sitting on the hangar floor.
Given what I read in another thread about the ice harvester upgrade modules, clearly the math is jacked up somewhere for these. Example:
Covetor WITHOUT an upgrade and MSM 2s...each MSM 2 is 60 cpu. WITH the upgrade on, it goes up to 66 cpu per laser...this jives with the math. The upgrade takes 30 cpu. EXCEPT that if you have mining upgrades level 3, you should, at the very, VERY least, be down to 25.5 cpu on the upgrade. The confusion is in the description, as usual. The description of the skill states "5% bonus reduction in cpu penalty of mining upgrades" So using that description, lvl 3 upgrade skill should get the MSM 2 back down to where it started, at the very least.
Additionally, you have to take the module off the ship to not have the penalty attached. Taking it offline will take away your bonus, but not your penalty.
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VodkaMan
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Posted - 2005.12.30 19:37:00 -
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Description of skill and module is right, but skill really don't work !
Penalty from upgrade module affects mining laser, but skill don't reduce this penalty and this is very probably bug
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