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GreenSeed
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Posted - 2013.08.17 00:16:00 -
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this, online, please?
here's your list of features
i remember making a post not too long ago saying jokingly "CCP, break that piggy bank and buy Egosoft, before they get too big." it's still not too late. 
to think we spent months debating last year, whether the player base is willing to make a sacrifice and go for a year, or more, with no content updates in exchange of having all the dev time devoted to a deep, and complete POS/outpost overhaul.  and the last word was "we will leave POSes on the back burner, because of... priorities."
and here we are, a year later, no news on POSes, except some minimal changes, that change nothing. tiercide was great, but a small change. t2 changes? hardly a priority, ice? nice change, makes the game more healthy. moon goo? good.
all in all, nothing close to the monumental task of opening up W-space, SOV changes, T2 production, and later on T3 production... doesn't take a genius to see that you are running on a skeleton crew while keeping most people busy working on something else. can we see it?
please?
is it a Modular POS? can we dock in it? is it something for us industrialists? something nice for invention maybe?
it it something cool that serves no other purpose than being "cool"? because, unlike what some people think, if its not cool, then the feature is not good. 
and if nothing on POSes was done, you guys do know that it wont get any easier as time goes by, right?
the nerds are restless. |
Kirjava
Lothian Enterprises
30681
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Posted - 2013.08.17 00:34:00 -
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The technology is developing for direct brain to computer interfaces, by 2023 we may see Capsuleers plugged into the game directly, seeing on a heatmounted display and moving through neural recognition.
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Louise Beethoven
Hedion University
Amarr Empire
3
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Posted - 2013.08.17 00:56:00 -
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Mother of god that looks amazing |
Solhild
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2013.08.17 01:06:00 -
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When I started playing EVE in 2008 they were still talking about a grand vision like that. Now it seems that it's endgame null fleet online only. |
Caviar Liberta
Moira.
Villore Accords
133
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Posted - 2013.08.17 01:15:00 -
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Looks like a mesh of BSG, Eve Online, Blade Runner and most futuristic space based sci-movies. |
The Greenmachine Greenmachine
Green's Bicycle Shop
27
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Posted - 2013.08.17 01:26:00 -
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I JUSTED WATCHED THAT TRAILER AND ITS A GOOD THING I WAS WEARING 3 PAIRS OF JESUS. I MEAN HOLY BANANAS THAT LOOKS SEXY AF |
KuroVolt
The Legion of Spoon
Curatores Veritatis Alliance
533
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Posted - 2013.08.17 01:34:00 -
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I do wonder if EVE would ever survive its jump away from its current spreadsheet like gameplay.
Would EVE ever be able to become a game where you dont need an overview to play the game?
Would people still want to play the game this way?
Either way, this does look amazing. |
Xearal
Black Thorne Corporation
The Cursed Few
624
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Posted - 2013.08.17 02:44:00 -
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That.. Looked... AWESOOOME!
Seriously CCP.. Acquire these guys and get them helping on Eve Online!
If I listen to those talks, it sounds like a single player game.. but holy mother of god if this ever went MMO... Eve should be worried.
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Hong WeiLoh
Hong's Harriers
7
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Posted - 2013.08.17 03:50:00 -
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Xearal wrote:That.. Looked... AWESOOOME!
Seriously CCP.. Acquire these guys and get them helping on Eve Online!
If I listen to those talks, it sounds like a single player game.. but holy mother of god if this ever went MMO... Eve should be worried.
If that's an MMO, it'll alpha EVE right off the field...  |
Solstice Project
I'm So Meta Even This Acronym
3652
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Posted - 2013.08.17 03:57:00 -
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You people are like little kids, getting easily manipulated by fancy graphics. |
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MicDeath Titan
Titans Guild
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Posted - 2013.08.17 04:23:00 -
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Solstice Project wrote:You people are like little kids, getting easily manipulated by fancy graphics.
It isn't the graphics, it is the promis they are making. And if they can maintain those promises with the same level as the hype is, then it will make Eve, old. |
Pohbis
Neo T.E.C.H.
353
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Posted - 2013.08.17 07:16:00 -
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MicDeath Titan wrote:Solstice Project wrote:You people are like little kids, getting easily manipulated by fancy graphics. It isn't the graphics, it is the promis they are making. And if they can maintain those promises with the same level as the hype is, then it will make Eve, old. Every single game in development, will make every single current game, old... if you believe the hype.
Doesn't even have to be hype. It's human nature to read our own wishes into promises.
That said, there's competition on the horizon for EVE, finally, and that's a good thing  |
flakeys
Antwerpse Kerels
R O G U E
1342
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Posted - 2013.08.17 08:02:00 -
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MicDeath Titan wrote:Solstice Project wrote:You people are like little kids, getting easily manipulated by fancy graphics. It isn't the graphics, it is the promis they are making. And if they can maintain those promises with the same level as the hype is, then it will make Eve, old.
I can think of not one game that kept to it's promise over the last 10 years when finally launched ... really not one .Your living in the fairyland of early gaming where they allways surpassed their promises .
Best thing is to see it as a gouvernment , lots of promises and 'some' actually get implemented while most keep floating around as soontm .
We are all born ignorant, but one must work hard to remain stupid.
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Jake Warbird
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
3197
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Posted - 2013.08.17 08:12:00 -
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I used to play X2/3 before I started Eve Online. The X series are amazing space games, the interface was pretty ****** though. Still, wouldn't trade Eve for anything in the world... Or in space. |
Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
16094
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Posted - 2013.08.17 08:12:00 -
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GǪsoGǪ will it have any actual gameplay, or just be an exercise in scripting (and abusing the lack of out-of-sector simulation detail) like all previous games in the X series?
GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥
Get a good start: newbie skill plan 2.0. |
Solstice Project
I'm So Meta Even This Acronym
3652
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Posted - 2013.08.17 08:24:00 -
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Tippia wrote:GǪsoGǪ will it have any actual gameplay, or just be an exercise in scripting (and abusing the lack of out-of-sector simulation detail) like all previous games in the X series? People compare it to EvE...
Well, i guess it's the carebear version, where only NPCs will be a "threat".
That won't hurt their bloated egos...
Edit:
Imagine carebears mining their hearts out in this single player "sandbox" ....
Hilarious! XD |
RubyPorto
SniggWaffe
YOUR VOTES DON'T COUNT
3894
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Posted - 2013.08.17 08:32:00 -
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Solstice Project wrote:Tippia wrote:GǪsoGǪ will it have any actual gameplay, or just be an exercise in scripting (and abusing the lack of out-of-sector simulation detail) like all previous games in the X series? People compare it to EvE... Well, i guess it's the carebear version, where only NPCs will be a "threat". That won't hurt their bloated egos...
Leggo my Eggo!
...oh, one "g".
This is EVE - Everybody Versus Everybody.
"the risk of having your day ruined by other people is the cornerstone with which EVE was built and we want to keep that (infact, this is much more representative of the consensus opinion within CCP)." -CCP Solomon |
Ishtanchuk Fazmarai
1594
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Posted - 2013.08.17 08:46:00 -
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Xearal wrote:That.. Looked... AWESOOOME!
Seriously CCP.. Acquire these guys and get them helping on Eve Online!
If I listen to those talks, it sounds like a single player game.. but holy mother of god if this ever went MMO... Eve should be worried.
I am playing EVE litherally because the X series does not have online. Good news are that the currrent universe setting is more friendly to online than the old one. Bad news is that Egosoft is a diminutive company (30-some workers), X-Rebirth has taken them 7 years in the making and they've made a potentially dangerous decission by making Rebirth a single ship game whereas 62% the player base prefers to fly mutliple ships.
The Greater Fool Bar is now open for business, 24/7. Come and have drinks and fun somewhere between RL and New Eden! |
Ishtanchuk Fazmarai
1594
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Posted - 2013.08.17 08:57:00 -
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GreenSeed wrote:this, online, please? here's your list of featuresi remember making a post not too long ago saying jokingly "CCP, break that piggy bank and buy Egosoft, before they get too big." it's still not too late. to think we spent months debating last year, whether the player base is willing to make a sacrifice and go for a year, or more, with no content updates in exchange of having all the dev time devoted to a deep, and complete POS/outpost overhaul. and the last word was "we will leave POSes on the back burner, because of... priorities." and here we are, a year later, no news on POSes, except some minimal changes, that change nothing. tiercide was great, but a small change. t2 changes? hardly a priority, ice? nice change, makes the game more healthy. moon goo? good. all in all, nothing close to the monumental task of opening up W-space, SOV changes, T2 production, and later on T3 production... doesn't take a genius to see that you are running on a skeleton crew while keeping most people busy working on something else. can we see it? please? is it a Modular POS? can we dock in it? is it something for us industrialists? something nice for invention maybe? it it something cool that serves no other purpose than being " cool"? because, unlike what some people think, if its not cool, then the feature is not good. and if nothing on POSes was done, you guys do know that it wont get any easier as time goes by, right? the nerds are restless.
Well, according to Malcanis, CCP does have a plan for EVE. I am taking that as in: "we are at the end of the post-incarna plan and just look at what it has delivered".
My pet fear is that they've reached a complexity peak and can't make the game any more complex without inacceptable risk of breaking it. And rather than move 90-¦ from "core" gameplay and expand the gameplay space, they've aligned themselves to "core" gameplay literally to death.
The Greater Fool Bar is now open for business, 24/7. Come and have drinks and fun somewhere between RL and New Eden! |
Lee Saisima
Caldari Arms and Industry
13
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Posted - 2013.08.17 09:08:00 -
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There are a LOT of space games up and coming that look set to overshadow EVE; Star Citizen, X Rebirth, and Limit Theory to name just a few. EVE already seems like an outdated game in a lot of respects.  |
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Arduemont
Rotten Legion Ops
1765
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Posted - 2013.08.17 09:18:00 -
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Don't get me wrong, it looks great, but no multi-player means I won't be playing it and I know a lot of people the same.
Star Citizen is much closer to Eve because of it's multi-player. Multiple servers, sure, but one main server.
People like to argue that games like these won't detract from Eve at all, because they're too "carebear", but they forget that more than half of the games player-base is what they so casually refer to as carebears.
"In the age of information, ignorance is a choice." |
flakeys
Antwerpse Kerels
R O G U E
1342
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Posted - 2013.08.17 09:20:00 -
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Why do people compare single player or semi-multiplayer to mmorpg in the first place.I never understood that.
We are all born ignorant, but one must work hard to remain stupid.
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Lucretia DeWinter
Star Frontiers
Dirt Nap Squad.
37
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Posted - 2013.08.17 09:21:00 -
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I've played and loved every X game. The strength of Egosoft and Deep Silver is that they are a small and very dedicated team and they pretty much do what they want.
X is a very different beast to EVE and I think they're actually pretty careful to make a gorgeous, engrossing single player game with fully featured community mod support and stay away from trying to shoehorn the X Universe into an MMO.
It's been discussed many times how awesome it would be, but to make X work as an MMO, it would pretty much be a watered down version and would end up more like Freelancer.
IMO, X offers a different experience to EVE and I'm glad that they appear to be sticking to their strengths and expertise and producing a fantastic all new X game.
That said, none of the mechanics are really unique, it's more a question of granularity and complexity. I'm sure EVE would like to have a similar level of the open world Trade Fight Build Think philosophy, but I believe they do well to provide what works when you get 400,000 meta gaming min maxxers loose on it.
Still pretty excited for X Rebirth. Between this and Battlefield 4, I'm going to have to set some long skills training :) |
Ishtanchuk Fazmarai
1599
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Posted - 2013.08.17 10:25:00 -
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flakeys wrote:Why do people compare single player or semi-multiplayer to mmorpg in the first place.I never understood that.
Because they compete for the same limited resource: player time.
And then, single player games can be halted and even abandoned when RL calls, which is something likely to happen at the age of the average EVE player.
In the X-series you can stop building a 20+ elements factory complex at a moment's notice and it will still be there when you're back to the game.
Multiplayer games lack this, and in the case of EVE, everything spits on the needs of players who need casual friendly depth and complexity.
Don't know how good will be or will perform X-Rebirth, but we're in 2013 and EVE is gonna face serious competence for the first time in 7 years. And that competence is aimed straight at the bulk of the playerbase, the ones who pay the bills albeit EVE is not their game.
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Solhild
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
1183
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Posted - 2013.08.17 10:49:00 -
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Solstice Project wrote:You people are like little kids, getting easily manipulated by fancy graphics.
True, I like pretty graphics.
This does look good and it clearly lays out a grand vision for their game. I'm not comparing this with EVE as EVE is a very different beast, MMO and all.
CCP have toyed with this type of vision in the past but it now seems to be a vision for games other than EVE, i.e. Dust etc.
Sadly EVE is being communicated as a safely contained fleet game with a hisec starter path, a sideline of exploration, legacy mechanics of manufacturing and trading (although they tried to kill some of that with the NEX).
I'd like to hear about ideas such as harvesting implants from corpses, avatar infiltration of ancient relics and off-grid agents who you have to meet in person.
I'm hoping we get more in the Winter expansion to open EVE up again. I believe we find out more on the 21st of August.
Fingers crossed. |
Poison Alice
Fat Dragon Mining Co.
JIHADASQUAD
5
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Posted - 2013.08.17 11:00:00 -
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zomg that thing looks awesome, but its not all in graphics 
it rips off eve too much, and it would take loot more for me (and lot of other vets, i imagine) to leave our internetspaceshipssrsbusns just for diverse eye candy |
Grog Barrel
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
47
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Posted - 2013.08.17 11:01:00 -
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flakeys wrote:MicDeath Titan wrote:Solstice Project wrote:You people are like little kids, getting easily manipulated by fancy graphics. It isn't the graphics, it is the promis they are making. And if they can maintain those promises with the same level as the hype is, then it will make Eve, old. I can think of not one game that kept to it's promise over the last 10 years when finally launched ... really not one .Your living in the fairyland of early gaming where they allways surpassed their promises . Best thing is to see it as a gouvernment , lots of promises and 'some' actually get implemented while most keep floating around as soontm .
as far as i remember, x2 and x3 reunion / terran conflict were just what they were supposed to be. |
Lugalbandak
Anunnaku Industrial Corp.
Northern Associates.
78
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Posted - 2013.08.17 11:02:00 -
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so eve needs to change to Structere building & walking online? pls no , there is ton of other work , posses are fine , last time i docked at a station was 4 days ago
The police horse is the only animal in the world that haz his male genitals on his back |
Edgy Mc Edgerton
State War Academy
Caldari State
0
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Posted - 2013.08.17 11:10:00 -
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posting in a stealth stealth thread |
Johan Toralen
IIIJIIIITIIII
225
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Posted - 2013.08.17 11:15:00 -
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New X looks great but i don't see any game threatening Eve's status anytime soon. Not even Star Citizen as it's not really a proper mmo. This sucks because i think CCP really needs a few kicks in their butts from competition for a wake up call. |
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