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Segmentor
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Posted - 2006.01.01 14:08:00 -
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Edited by: Segmentor on 01/01/2006 14:10:43 So, after getting my Vexor blowed up by an NPC inty, i bought a Rax. I searched round the forums abit, but couldt find any thorax setups for after RMR patch. Im a newbie, and have pretty low skills.. Currently im training for MWD use. My current setup: 3x Heavy Ions 2x Heavy Neutrons 1x 10mn AB II 1x Langour Webber 1x Scrambler/Cap Recharger I 1x Medium Armor Rep II 1x 400mm Reinforced Nanothingy 2x RCU 1x Cap Relay Drones: 4x Hammers, 1x Acolyte
And i still have the feel i can be pwned with ease. Help? |

wierchas noobhunter
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Posted - 2006.01.01 14:52:00 -
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wtf ? 2x rcu ? omg 
5x ions mwd, web, scrambler 3x mag stabs, small armor rep, 400mm plate
soar angelic now recruting |

Sarmaul
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Posted - 2006.01.01 14:58:00 -
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Originally by: wierchas noobhunter wtf ? 2x rcu ? omg 
5x ions mwd, web, scrambler 3x mag stabs, small armor rep, 400mm plate
please don't encourage people to fit 400mm plates on their thorax - I've killed so many with an 800mm rupture just because I had so many more HP. would be nice to have a challenge sometimes  ------------- Please make Minmatar overpowered, CCP |

wierchas noobhunter
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Posted - 2006.01.01 15:09:00 -
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Originally by: Sarmaul
Originally by: wierchas noobhunter wtf ? 2x rcu ? omg 
5x ions mwd, web, scrambler 3x mag stabs, small armor rep, 400mm plate
please don't encourage people to fit 400mm plates on their thorax - I've killed so many with an 800mm rupture just because I had so many more HP. would be nice to have a challenge sometimes 
ehh wehn i see ripture i run cos all times they have 2x medium nos 
soar angelic now recruting |

Sarmaul
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Posted - 2006.01.01 15:12:00 -
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Originally by: wierchas noobhunter
Originally by: Sarmaul
Originally by: wierchas noobhunter wtf ? 2x rcu ? omg 
5x ions mwd, web, scrambler 3x mag stabs, small armor rep, 400mm plate
please don't encourage people to fit 400mm plates on their thorax - I've killed so many with an 800mm rupture just because I had so many more HP. would be nice to have a challenge sometimes 
ehh wehn i see ripture i run cos all times they have 2x medium nos 
they sure do   ------------- Please make Minmatar overpowered, CCP |

wierchas noobhunter
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Posted - 2006.01.01 15:19:00 -
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Originally by: Sarmaul
Originally by: wierchas noobhunter
Originally by: Sarmaul
Originally by: wierchas noobhunter wtf ? 2x rcu ? omg 
5x ions mwd, web, scrambler 3x mag stabs, small armor rep, 400mm plate
please don't encourage people to fit 400mm plates on their thorax - I've killed so many with an 800mm rupture just because I had so many more HP. would be nice to have a challenge sometimes 
ehh wehn i see ripture i run cos all times they have 2x medium nos 
they sure do  
atm rupture is best 1x1 cruiser its so hard fight them damn 
soar angelic now recruting |

Segmentor
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Posted - 2006.01.01 15:36:00 -
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Im not really PvP'ing yet, although i have some basic jamming skills for it... So its kinda mission/npc hunt config im looking for...
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wierchas noobhunter
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Posted - 2006.01.01 15:41:00 -
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Originally by: Segmentor Im not really PvP'ing yet, although i have some basic jamming skills for it... So its kinda mission/npc hunt config im looking for...
5x200 mm rails ab, web, cap recharger 2x hardeners on rat tipe , medium armor rep, cap power relay

soar angelic now recruting |

R3 1D
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Posted - 2006.01.01 15:51:00 -
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Originally by: Sarmaul
Originally by: wierchas noobhunter
Originally by: Sarmaul
Originally by: wierchas noobhunter wtf ? 2x rcu ? omg 
5x ions mwd, web, scrambler 3x mag stabs, small armor rep, 400mm plate
please don't encourage people to fit 400mm plates on their thorax - I've killed so many with an 800mm rupture just because I had so many more HP. would be nice to have a challenge sometimes 
ehh wehn i see ripture i run cos all times they have 2x medium nos 
they sure do  
I'm normally more scared they've got a decent webber on and don't just use approach 
(Yes, my main account is broken)
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sakana
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Posted - 2006.01.01 18:27:00 -
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my current setup, with which i have taken down almost any cruiser and as well as battlecruisers:
highs: 4 named small neut blasters and 1 named med NOS meds: webifier, warp scrambler and MWD (all named) lows: 1600mm rolled plate, 3 hardeners (all but EM) and a small repper t2 (also all named)
this has a v solid tank and also deals out enough power to take cruisers down within a minute. work on those MWD skills, you need them to use the rax to its full potential.
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Samirol
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Posted - 2006.01.01 19:55:00 -
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4x Heavy Ions 1x Med Nos
1x AB, 2 cap rechargers
1 med repper, 2 hardeners, 1 dmg mod, 1 tracking enh
This was for npcing, mostly against frigs in level 2 missions, but can easily take down a cruiser
Originally by: Layrex
Originally by: Pwny McPwnerson RIGHT NOW BANTAMS ARE BETTER THAN RAVENS!! WTF???!?
nerf banthams!!!
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Drunkeh
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Posted - 2006.01.01 20:19:00 -
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Originally by: sakana my current setup, with which i have taken down almost any cruiser and as well as battlecruisers:
highs: 4 named small neut blasters and 1 named med NOS meds: webifier, warp scrambler and MWD (all named) lows: 1600mm rolled plate, 3 hardeners (all but EM) and a small repper t2 (also all named)
this has a v solid tank and also deals out enough power to take cruisers down within a minute. work on those MWD skills, you need them to use the rax to its full potential.
Any good rupture pilot would omgwtfspank you :S
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wierchas noobhunter
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Posted - 2006.01.01 20:21:00 -
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Originally by: sakana my current setup, with which i have taken down almost any cruiser and as well as battlecruisers:
highs: 4 named small neut blasters and 1 named med NOS meds: webifier, warp scrambler and MWD (all named) lows: 1600mm rolled plate, 3 hardeners (all but EM) and a small repper t2 (also all named)
this has a v solid tank and also deals out enough power to take cruisers down within a minute. work on those MWD skills, you need them to use the rax to its full potential.
lol 
soar angelic now recruting |

RedWyvern
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Posted - 2006.01.01 21:28:00 -
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the new drone types add a huge amount of versatility to the Thorax - don't just go for damage every time...though two sentries might be nice. ;)
armour repping drones - 120 a cycle (afaik?). 2 of these and you can swop your med armour rep for a small, saving grid for other modules.
webber drones - save you a mid, which I'd personally use for a cap charger.
Neutraliser drones - save highs? Or at least mean you only need one nosferatu yourself in order to gimp an opponent's (assuming cruiser v cruiser) cap.
these are just random thoughts off the top of my head. Flame at will.  -------------------------------------------------- Loyalty, Integrity, Honour. |

Joshua Keeling
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Posted - 2006.01.01 22:28:00 -
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I thought the armor repping drones only work on locked targets...
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Unaha Closp
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Posted - 2006.01.01 22:56:00 -
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Originally by: Joshua Keeling I thought the armor repping drones only work on locked targets...
True... at least i couldn't get them to touch me. You can however NOS them as they have a massive cap.
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Evan Mac
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Posted - 2006.01.02 10:06:00 -
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Originally by: sakana my current setup, with which i have taken down almost any cruiser and as well as battlecruisers:
highs: 4 named small neut blasters and 1 named med NOS meds: webifier, warp scrambler and MWD (all named) lows: 1600mm rolled plate, 3 hardeners (all but EM) and a small repper t2 (also all named)
this has a v solid tank and also deals out enough power to take cruisers down within a minute. work on those MWD skills, you need them to use the rax to its full potential.
I can definitely vouch for this setup. I use the exact same thing for pvp, only I have 5x light neuts (with AM ammo) and a Med Rep II. The nos is a good idea though, I should try it out.
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Christopher Multsanti
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Posted - 2006.01.02 11:27:00 -
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Originally by: Sarmaul
Originally by: wierchas noobhunter wtf ? 2x rcu ? omg 
5x ions mwd, web, scrambler 3x mag stabs, small armor rep, 400mm plate
please don't encourage people to fit 400mm plates on their thorax - I've killed so many with an 800mm rupture just because I had so many more HP. would be nice to have a challenge sometimes 
Where do you hang around I may come and see if my thorax post rmr is up to the challenge.
Death and Glory in H-PA
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Skreed
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Posted - 2006.01.02 11:48:00 -
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Im sick of people using Ruptures with 800mm plates. I have taken teo of these on 2v1 in my rax. this is post RMR. My Setup as follows. 4 x light neutron blasters II 1 x Med Nos
1 x 10MN MWD II (10MN AB When killing in complexes) 1 x Named Webber 1 x Named Warp Disruptor
1 x Med Armor Rep II 1 x Armor Exp Hardener 1 x 1600mm Plate (why change such a beautiful setup) 2 x Mag Stab II
2 x Heavy EMP drones ( take that sheild out more)
Simply, Find Target mwd to 100m(lol) and nos and rep and tank and drones and guns. Guns hit for around 120-200 a hit each every 2 secs!!! so it hurts, drones have alot more help aswell. plus when targeting a pod you target faster with SML guns which is always nice. i tanked long enuf to kill two ruptures. JUST DONT LEAVE THE MWD GOING. It hurts your cap. lol plus small guns hit better on frigs as well. so many intys have died to this setup. But i was wondering if anyone has a nice setup for the vexor after RMR. Vexovamp?
SKRED - ' If i find myself in a fair fight, I have done something seriously wrong '   
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Demon Johnson
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Posted - 2006.01.03 08:58:00 -
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Originally by: Skreed
1 x 1600mm Plate (why change such a beautiful setup)
Hmm...because you have now after RMR a agility like a BS and need ages to accelerate?
I am thinking about a medium rail PvP setup with a 1600, but imho the mass-penalty of the BS sized plates kills thorax-blaster setups. I am currently testing a 5* med Ion setup with 2 400mm plates. It is not good tanking setup, bnut medium guns now seem to be able to deliver better damage than small ones.
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Skreed
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Posted - 2006.01.03 22:27:00 -
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Originally by: Demon Johnson
Originally by: Skreed
1 x 1600mm Plate (why change such a beautiful setup)
Hmm...because you have now after RMR a agility like a BS and need ages to accelerate?
I would easily try a 1600mm plate against your 400mm thing. most ships are close range and if they r not then you can waro out i have used a 1600mm since rmr and wasted all cruisers ive come across and a few BC
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Garreck
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Posted - 2006.01.03 22:47:00 -
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The thorax can fit a full rack of heavy electron IIs, an mwd, and an 800mm plate (yes, you'll need advanced weapon upgrades trained up a bit.) Terrific firepower, and over 3500 armor with a named plate. Take that and run with it.
Play with the new drones. Lots of up-your-sleeves tricks to be played with those.
Don't be intimidated by all these rupture jocks . Thorax is still the final word in point-blank soul destroying.
Garreck
Aku. Soku. Zan. |

Ras Blumin
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Posted - 2006.01.04 00:39:00 -
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Originally by: Skreed plus when targeting a pod you target faster with SML guns which is always nice.
Not true
Originally by: Skreed i tanked long enuf to kill two ruptures.
I've done a 4v1, made one warp out, killed the remaining 3 in my stabber. Does that make the stabber uber?
p - l - u - r
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Ka Dargo
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Posted - 2006.01.04 02:50:00 -
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H: 5 x Heavy Electron IIs (or named). M: 10mn MWDII, Web, Scram. L: T2 MAR, 2 x hardners, 800mm plate, cap relay.
5 x Medium T2 drones if you can use them.
Very good damage, speed, agility and cap..
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Breed Love
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Posted - 2006.01.04 03:55:00 -
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You need a magstab or two on a thorax to really do some decent damage.
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Demon Johnson
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Posted - 2006.01.04 09:27:00 -
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Originally by: Breed Love You need a magstab or two on a thorax to really do some decent damage.
Hmm...so replace the two hardeners with a nano membrane and a magstab? Or a active exp hardener plus magstab?
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Wolverine PL
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Posted - 2006.02.02 17:48:00 -
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PVP setup: Blasters (type depends how much PG you have) 10mwd, scrabler, cap injector med rep t2, small rep t2(or dmg mod), adaptive membrane,rcu, dmg mod. I took ferox with this fit. Ok it dont have web which can be a problem. but you dont have to worry about cap. And full drone bay of EW drones.
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Tom Ato
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Posted - 2006.02.03 20:55:00 -
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high= 5x light neutron blaster II med= 10mn mwd, web, scram low= 3 mag stab II, 1600mm rolled tungten (never see enuf of them), small armor rep II drones= 5 valkarie II (or however its spelt)
will kill MOST if not all other t1 cruisers + below with ease...
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Zolofine
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Posted - 2006.02.05 18:37:00 -
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Originally by: sakana my current setup, with which i have taken down almost any cruiser and as well as battlecruisers:
highs: 4 named small neut blasters and 1 named med NOS meds: webifier, warp scrambler and MWD (all named) lows: 1600mm rolled plate, 3 hardeners (all but EM) and a small repper t2 (also all named)
this has a v solid tank and also deals out enough power to take cruisers down within a minute. work on those MWD skills, you need them to use the rax to its full potential.
Who have you been fighting? Guys in jita? :/
How do you actually propose to do damage with this setup. A friend of mine used this against my enyo, couldn't even dent me.
I've messed around with a lot of thorax setup's, to date i haven't found anything that can justify the use of blasters to win in a 1v1 against other races close rangers.
I tried..
5x named neutron web, scram, mwd 3dam mods, 2 RCU II
Ganks plenty but doesn't have enough hit-points to actually kill before being killed. Unless you opponents is low skilled then you gank a cruiser in about 7 seconds.
Tried a variety of plated setups, none work while still having decent damage output. The only way i see a rax working as close-range ownage is to simply rely completely on drones. Put a full rack of electron II's or mix with nos, web,scr, mwd in meds. Lows complete tank with 800mm plate. Let your T2 valkyries kill for you. Haven't tried it yet but the tech 1 equivalent does pretty well against a rup. |

Dutch Mill
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Posted - 2006.02.06 06:30:00 -
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Been a while since I flew one.. But a guaranteed succes is this:
5 Tech II small Neutrons 10MWD, Webber and scrambler 1600mm plating, hardeners, repair unit. and ofcourse some drones.
Works great.. and if you guys need CPU and powergrid upgrades to fit it all.. then dont fly it.!
cheers.
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