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WHY should moving caps become laughably easy and entirely risk free?

Pssst. he doesn't actually want to use them in HS Wars. He wants to park them in a station so he can log off without fear of loosing access to his shiny assets.

Outposts can be conquered and stuff.

Is it just me (could very well be since it's early in the morning)... or did Nikk just take the express line to non-sensical land?

Limited time war permit for cap ships in high sec?

Sure.

Only available under mutual war dec.

Time limit on cap permit, starting when you apply.

NPC cyno will be lit for you at a random point in deep space in the system of your choosing, at the time of your choosing.

At the end of the time limit, when the permit expires, the cap ship self destructs regardless of the security zone where it resides at that time.

Limited time, and limited 'lol risk averse' shenanigans. Ship's going to eat it one way or the other, so you better make it worth the loss.

1 Get mutual wardec,
2 bring moros on jita 4-4
3 annihilate everyone else.

Limited time war permit for cap ships in high sec?

Sure.

Only available under mutual war dec.

Time limit on cap permit, starting when you apply.

NPC cyno will be lit for you at a random point in deep space in the system of your choosing, at the time of your choosing.

At the end of the time limit, when the permit expires, the cap ship self destructs regardless of the security zone where it resides at that time.

Limited time, and limited 'lol risk averse' shenanigans. Ship's going to eat it one way or the other, so you better make it worth the loss.

1. Annihilate one ship that's not wardecced. (And barely, if you're taking potshots at freighters.)
2. Lose Moros to CONCORD.
2a. Provide chance for massive killmail whoring because even CONCORD takes a few seconds to kill a Moros.

And I know you were trying to be clever, but other than catering to people's boredom and deep pockets, this is absolutely no different than suicide ganking in a gang of Tornados or Catalysts.

While returning capitals to highsec is an amusing proposal I can't support this idea in good faith.

Having been a wardec player in the past I can guarantee you that someone erecting a pos is doing themselves more harm than good. There aren't that many benefits to owning one versus just doing your manufacturing in a stable lowsec system.

My head hurts. o\

Caps were removed from high sec for a reason, no?

If he wants that, he can park them in lowsec. What he apparently wants is the ability to move his caps to anywhere in EVE with zero risk, and not even lose a cyno frig in the process.

Assuming for the moment that there is no issues relating to abuses from a cap ship in high sec, I must point this out.

You are asking to permit higher value ships than typically present into high sec.

Assuming regular events, these boats could be Concordokkened, and be lost to this NPC response. Oh, if you thought a logi boat attracted attention, a triage carrier would too.

But players might be far more willing to absorb the loss of a sub cap, even a T2 logi, but a carrier? Especially one outfitted with faction items, possibly a super?

Support gets a request every time a player thinks they deserve, or can BS well enough to get, the ship restored instead of absorbing the loss.

It is the same logic, that real life insurance companies employ. Rather than paying certain claims, they will deny them repeatedly, even though they were legitimate. Put simply, if enough money is on the line, people will try to BS their way to not taking the loss.

Cap ships are more worth the effort than subcaps, so they will happen more often if permitted into high sec.

A carrier that is suspect flagged would be swarmed, by kill mail hungry NPC corp pilots who have no chance of getting one any other way.

It's just too much trouble for CCP. And that is assuming everything else would be fine.

and when i referenced moving the vessel across high sec i was referring to moving across high sec to get to the system that the pass was first intended for.

And what stops me from instead moving to a different part of nullsec, thus taking a massive shortcut and moving my cap in a 100% risk free manner, without even losing cyno frigates?

Whats so hard about killing a capital ship, please someone tell me.

revokation of pass privleges? maybe a course could be given when applying for this pass and swaying away from that course would constitute loss of ship? there are many different situations that could be applied to this.

1. Annihilate one ship that's not wardecced. (And barely, if you're taking potshots at freighters.)
2. Lose Moros to CONCORD.
2a. Provide chance for massive killmail whoring because even CONCORD takes a few seconds to kill a Moros.

And I know you were trying to be clever, but other than catering to people's boredom and deep pockets, this is absolutely no different than suicide ganking in a gang of Tornados or Catalysts.

Station games: funner when there's a dread swarm waiting.

And what stops me from instead moving to a different part of nullsec, thus taking a massive shortcut and moving my cap in a 100% risk free manner, without even losing cyno frigates?

I see what you did there. Create an alt corp [check], declare war on your main corp/alliance [check], cyno capitals into highsec [check], end war and move capitals to the new null system you had planned to move them to prior to the new capital ships in high sec permits [check]

But of course nobody would ever abuse this mechanic as I described right?