Just one giant doughnut of renter space!? Is this what eve has now become?
There's something seriously wrong here. How can an alliance hold space and yet not live there and then rent it out? Surely the game is about gaining space, and keeping hold of it? The amount of nullsec thats now become rental space is just crazy,

OK OK, some might say, well we are getting more people into nullsec, we are allowing people that couldnt get into nullsec a chance to. OK we will charge them stupidly high prices but meh we dont want that space anyway. and herein lies the problem.

Why arent nullsec alliances exploiting the mining riches, the anomolies etc to make there isk like everyone else has to, instead of being lazy so and so's? Really they should be having mass mining ops, or large anomaly bashing ops instead of being carebears (which ironically they moan about high sec carebears) these are 10x worse. They wont do anything, they cry about their passive moon income being nerf because they simply cannot be bothered to go an actually make isk.

Is this really where eve has gone and going?

I mean yeah live in a region and have a few renters to make that extra income like some alliance do, but look at Northern Associates for instance (N3)

http://evemaps.dotlan.net/alliance/Northern_Associates.

I mean what 10 regions or more just PURELY to rent. Surely it cant be just me that sees something wrong here.

Be a goon renter, help perpetuate their "gameplay" all over the face of new eden

How is you blowing up a Mackinaw in high sec in 15 seconds any different? I'll tell you how: A Mackinaw is worth twice as much as a POCO and the person flying it doesn't get extra warning or extra chances to save it. It's a double standard. Newbs play EVE Online. Null sec veterans play Farmville. We all know your argument is bullshit and that you really just like the system as it currently is because it gives you an unfair advantage. That's fine. But if you continue to shovel logical fallacies and bogus, self-motivated "justifications" for the system, we're probably going to shoot them down. Sorry. Your dogs don't hunt.



What effort was put in to putting the structure up? That should be a comparative effort that is used to decide how much effort is required to take it down. And you don't get to count a 4000 player battle for the system, because the effort on one side is cancelled out by the effort of the other side in that battle. What happens afterward is its own event.

If you're too unorganized or short sighted to figure out how to protect your space empire AT ALL TIMES, then you shouldn't have one. In the real world, the police, the military, the fire department, the hospital emergency room, and even the freakin' donut shop are on station ready to perform their duty 24 hours a day. Your house doesn't go into reinforced mode when it's burning down and no one is going to wait almost TWO DAYS to get their donuts and coffee after ordering them.

I think some people just like beeing deaf and blind, thats the reason why its happening

Makes perfect sense for a 100m isk module to take 24 hours to kill. How foolish were we...

No I think they're right you know. Goonswarm needs time to defend their POCO's. First they need to send a scout to check numbers. Then they need to form up their fleets. Then they need to check again to make sure numbers haven't spiked. Then they have to send a bunch of cynos alts out. Then they have to form up more fleets. And then, only then, are they capable of taking on a small to medium gang of subcaps.

I mean, you can't expect a 12000 man alliance to have enough members on at low population hours to defend themselves. That's crazy thinking man.

Makes perfect sense for a 100m isk module to take 24 hours to kill. How foolish were we...

Considering the number of bad posts you're making about this topic I'm left wondering why you aren't willing to put the same amount of effort into actually killing some POCOs.

....the German U-Boats...

So yeah, in real life....

**** Germany a large and powerful power failed to achieve this goal.

The question wasn't whether a comparable could power achieve this, but could an very small power do it.

So basically, if you formed a coalition to destroy GSF, you could gank their structures.

Someone call in progodlegend.

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Why is it stupid? Isnt the whole point that you ARE supposed to defend those assets? Are you not supposed to really have around the clock guards? I mean everyone or thing important as 24/7 arm guards don't they on earth?

Seriously? You want to change the game so that assets must be defended 24/7? Are you a GOON ALT!!!

Highsec would be ripped apart. How many small Highsec corp can have someone online 24/7. New players would sign off and come back to find nothing. The only ones would would be able to protect anything would be the large alliances.

Your plan is just evil.

...I want to blow your lame POCO's up without being required to wait for 24 hours and have a blob waiting because they got warned...

I understand you want the game changed to make easier for you. That is clear. That isn't going to happen.

If you really want to play the POCO game, us hit and run tactics. If a blob shows up... you don't. Hit somewhere else.

I understand you want the game changed to make easier for you. That is clear. That isn't going to happen.

If you really want to play the POCO game, us hit and run tactics. If a blob shows up... you don't. Hit somewhere else.

It's not even that he wants the game to be easier. He wants the ability to damage large nullsec alliances with zero risk to himself (and with zero effort on his part).

Highsec? New players are losing things how? Their NPC station got exploded?

NPC corps are our 100% watchful gods.

Like CONCORD, who will waste you if you try.

Can't he take a leaf from Harry Forever and kill some cyno ships and T1 industrials?

I understand you want the game changed to make easier for you. That is clear. That isn't going to happen.

If you really want to play the POCO game, us hit and run tactics. If a blob shows up... you don't. Hit somewhere else.

I understand you want the game changed to make easier for you. That is clear. That isn't going to happen.

If you really want to play the POCO game, us hit and run tactics. If a blob shows up... you don't. Hit somewhere else.