Again, someone who has never left Hi-sec trying to talk about nullsec when they don't even know the basic mechanics of sov.

Think of it like mining an asteroid that needs 300 people to mine and still takes an hour to mine. Only all 300 of you need to mine it three times to get anything out of it, and you can only mine it once every 2 days. Then consider the fact that there are 300 other people that don't want you to mine it.

Then factor it in the fact you need to do this whole several times to take a system, dozens of times to take a constellation, and hundreds of times to take a region.

Do you see how it's hard work now? Taking and holding sov isn't as simple as putting a flag down.

OK, BoB are dead, they were taken apart by Goonswarm and friends, with a little help from a director level defector within BoB. The whole alliance woke up one morning to find someone had pressed the big red button marked "do not touch" and disbanded it. For once the big red button pusher wasn't CCP Tuxford, satisfied?

I think you're missing the point.

he's just killmailwhoring since he started

The point is that every GÇ£impossible large and unbeatableGÇ¥ corp/alliance/coalition in the history of the game has been both beaten and reduced to small numbers.

Just one giant doughnut of renter space!? Is this what eve has now become?
There's something seriously wrong here. How can an alliance hold space and yet not live there and then rent it out? Surely the game is about gaining space, and keeping hold of it? The amount of nullsec thats now become rental space is just crazy,

OK OK, some might say, well we are getting more people into nullsec, we are allowing people that couldnt get into nullsec a chance to. OK we will charge them stupidly high prices but meh we dont want that space anyway. and herein lies the problem.

Why arent nullsec alliances exploiting the mining riches, the anomolies etc to make there isk like everyone else has to, instead of being lazy so and so's? Really they should be having mass mining ops, or large anomaly bashing ops instead of being carebears (which ironically they moan about high sec carebears) these are 10x worse. They wont do anything, they cry about their passive moon income being nerf because they simply cannot be bothered to go an actually make isk.

Is this really where eve has gone and going?

I mean yeah live in a region and have a few renters to make that extra income like some alliance do, but look at Northern Associates for instance (N3)

http://evemaps.dotlan.net/alliance/Northern_Associates.

I mean what 10 regions or more just PURELY to rent. Surely it cant be just me that sees something wrong here.

In spite of your obsession with nullsec you have zero idea how it actually works. Keep flying through in your warp stab fitted bombers, though. You'll still be a clueless pubbie but you'll provide us with some entertainment.

The point is that every GÇ£impossible large and unbeatableGÇ¥ corp/alliance/coalition in the history of the game has been both beaten and reduced to small numbers.

you are the worst pilot out there until now, however, you are in the right alliance, 10.000 bad pilots might be able to kill a good one... good job

So far: Two?
And the second has learnt from the mistakes of the first.

Is the implication here that Harry considers himself a to be a better pilot than anyone in the CFC...
In absolute terms, a good pilot?

He does. He flies around Deklein every once in a while in a bomber while trying to "troll" us in local chat. We make fun of him for a while in our intel channels (because it makes him mad that we have intel channels) and then somebody will pop him on a gate (because he thinks warp stabs make him immune to bubbles) and he goes away for a little while.

He does. He flies around Deklein every once in a while in a bomber while trying to "troll" us in local chat. We make fun of him for a while in our intel channels (because it makes him mad that we have intel channels) and then somebody will pop him on a gate (because he thinks warp stabs make him immune to bubbles) and he goes away for a little while.

I'm winning every day against you, just check the statistics

I double checked the statistics and you don't seem to have harmed our sov or our moons. I fail to see how you are winning. Unless you meant to say whining...that I do see a lot of from you.

He's a liar, Lucas.

You 100% definitely did lie though.
You said that's your only char, and you said you'd joined a 0.0 corp. Since that char as never been in anything other than an NPC corp one of those two comments MUST have been a lie.

Since you say this is your only character and it has never left the safety of an NPC in highsec, what would you know of the issue?

Holding space in Eve requires being [elite] because thats the bar that has been set by the people who currently hold it. They are able to set the bar that high because they employ a lot of people who are very good at individual things. You as an individual do not have the time to become as good at all the things so your options are be mediocre at a bunch of things or find some allies who are good at the things you are not.

TYpical goon making a fool of himself, nullsec npc guy angry about nullsec stuff, get it right

But is his killboard green, what about his isk efficiency and k/d ratio?

My big dog happens to be a pretty bright son-of-a-gun.

This is rapidly getting back to the dumb idea that in order to hold sov you should have to have people logged in, in ships, just waiting for someone to attack. The timers are just to enable a fair fight. Sure, they could remove those timers, then a small roaming gang could come and steal sov. For how long?
The 10000 man alliance would just come blap the system into nothing in a matter of minutes and it'd be done. The timers are there to stop another 10000 man alliance from ninja blapping the system out during low population time. For us as the english speakers, we generally have periods of low population, but we're lucky, since US, EU and AU timezones fit together well. But from the point of view of people like the Russians, or country specific alliances, there are huge periods of time where very few people will be logged on. It would simply become a case of whoevers got the biggest timezone spread wins.

The amount of times small gangs come on the forums demanding they get their easy entry into sov is ludicrous. Any change they make to make it easier for you to take sov would make it even easier for a large alliance to take it back, so you'd just lose lot's of stuff. Do you REALLY think a 100 man corp could hold up very long against a 200 man cap fleet with a 1400 man subcap support? You may as well just c9ontract all your starbase structures to the enemy and save on ships.

I double checked the statistics and you don't seem to have harmed our sov or our moons. I fail to see how you are winning. Unless you meant to say whining...that I do see a lot of from you.

if I shoot down 10 ships of yours but you only are able to shoot down 8 ships of mine, then I'm winning... the moons are only there to assure you can build those extra 2 ships that you need to keep loosing over players like me

pretty simple math there...

if I shoot down 10 ships of yours but you only are able to shoot down 8 ships of mine, then I'm winning... the moons are only there to assure you can build those extra 2 ships that you need to keep loosing over players like me

pretty simple math there...