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IZON
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Posted - 2003.08.21 18:16:00 -
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Ignorance, some may call it bliss but we call it 'dumbing down' especially when national identities are concerned.
Since when has the American flag usurped the Union Jack as the symbol for 'English' in the help section? (Click on the round life saver ring and you'll see it). They speak French in Canada too, why not replace French flag with that of the Canadian one, that would make sense too, wouldn't it?.
English is spoken all over the world but the language only came from one country. If you're going to signify the language with a flag for heaven's sake use the correct one - (either the Union Jack or the St George). It's highly ironic knowing that CCP's servers are based in the UK (London) and CCP themselves are a European company.
...And it's a Lift! Not an Elevator 'dammit!'
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Posted - 2003.08.21 18:23:00 -
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I completely agree, this outrage will not go without vengeance. 
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Halo Jones
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Posted - 2003.08.21 18:45:00 -
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Well I must say i found this somewhat strange too initially. I am Irish, yet do speak English....
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Igwilve
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Posted - 2003.08.21 18:51:00 -
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I've noticed this, too. Still the two languages diverge enough that choosing one or the other might prove quite informative.
Incidentally, my favourite Canadian developer (BioWare) uses a Canadian flag to indicate English on their sites.
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PsyBlade
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Posted - 2003.08.21 18:54:00 -
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Living in Ireland, speaking Dutch... so how about we all go and play outside...
sheesh... you ppl seem to amaze me with the weird things you come up.
Altough this makes my day good...
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Presidio
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Posted - 2003.08.21 19:00:00 -
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Well by using an americam flag as the icon, they are maybe being more specific as to what sort of dialect is being used on the site.
Who cares really, as long as I can understand it I don't care.
Also american market is bigger than the british market, so maybe they are trying to target the larger market. Who can blame them?
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Milos Oberonov
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Posted - 2003.08.21 19:02:00 -
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Ignorance, some may call it bliss but we call it 'dumbing down' especially when national identities are concerned...
...And it's a Lift! Not an Elevator 'dammit!'
Hmmm.
If you ever get over to the States for a visit, make sure you bring a small Union Jack to hang in the back window of your car.
It won't earn you any respect, but you will be allowed to use the 'handicapped' parking spaces.
 
"Those who beat their swords into plowshares will one day plow for those who don't." -T. Jefferson |
Absinthe Addict
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Posted - 2003.08.21 19:06:00 -
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Removed. Not only is the forum english only, what you said isn't very nice ;) - Orestes, ModSquad |
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Posted - 2003.08.21 19:08:00 -
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I dont speak english. I speak American. There /is/ a difference, having lived in England for a few years, I know this.
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Bad Harlequin
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Posted - 2003.08.21 19:15:00 -
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i demand that we properly revert to the Union Jack to signifiy the origins of English, and then decree than anyone not speaking in iambic pentameter be podded on sight. 
Forsooth, this knave's a dev'ious sort of lad
Whose jabs and rants doth earn him well the name
of Troll; more feared than any Pirate's guns!
so Ha.
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Milos Oberonov
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Posted - 2003.08.21 19:15:00 -
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Removed. Not only is the forum english only, what you said isn't very nice ;) - Orestes, ModSquad
And I thought Absinthe made the heart grow fonder...
"Those who beat their swords into plowshares will one day plow for those who don't." -T. Jefferson |
Joshua Calvert
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Posted - 2003.08.21 19:19:00 -
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I'm from Sunderland.
I don't even know what language I speak but I do know that every sentence must end in "like", like.
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Bad Harlequin
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Posted - 2003.08.21 19:23:00 -
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Word, y0.
You are in a maze of twisty little asteroids, all alike. |
Grinning Dragon
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Posted - 2003.08.21 19:30:00 -
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There is no such thing as American English, someone please inform Microsoft.
Say No More!
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Posted - 2003.08.21 19:33:00 -
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I always thought it funny sometimes you get an option for "English" and "International English". WTF is the difference?
I also remember learning...a long time ago, the metric system in elementary school. They were teaching it to use because "We will convert to it...soon". I'm STILL waiting for us to get rid of that stupid standard system. Which, IMO, isn't a standard for anything.
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trap
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Posted - 2003.08.21 19:36:00 -
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Sc0rpion
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Posted - 2003.08.21 19:38:00 -
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I'm STILL waiting for us to get rid of that stupid standard system. Which, IMO, isn't a standard for anything.
That one has always boggled me too. The U.S. is advanced in so many ways, but they insist on clinging to this outdated measurement system, despite the fact that the entire industrialized world, and even thier own scientific community now use metric.
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Hematic
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Posted - 2003.08.21 19:45:00 -
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""I'm STILL waiting for us to get rid of that stupid standard system. Which, IMO, isn't a standard for anything.""
Actually an inch is the exact measurement on a lever when weight doubles.
As for some of our other measurements I'm sure they made sense when they were first adopted. :)
To me metric seems arbitrary although it IS easier when calculating considering it fits with decimal quite a bit better.
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Limahong
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Posted - 2003.08.21 20:13:00 -
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That one has always boggled me too. The U.S. is advanced in so many ways, but they insist on clinging to this outdated measurement system, despite the fact that the entire industrialized world, and even thier own scientific community now use metric.
It's all about money, specifically, how much it would cost to change to the metric system. A few years ago, I read that just changing the street signs to metric would cost a minimum of US$350 million. For the total cost, they said that it would be astronomical. |
Cervictor
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Posted - 2003.08.21 20:48:00 -
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Actually an inch is the exact measurement on a lever when weight doubles.
Can someone explain this? I thought it was a measurement of length... I could be wrong though.
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Dan Forever
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Posted - 2003.08.21 20:53:00 -
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by lever do you mean a uniform rod with a pivot and a weight at one end, and when that weight doubles the side on which the weight resides falls by exactly an inch?
With regards to "'Real' English" and "American English", I think they should do what many developers do and have both flags, you know where one corner is the american flag and the other is the union jack?
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Endureth
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Posted - 2003.08.21 20:53:00 -
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It's more recognizable to a greater number of people. Plain and simple.
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Shock
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Posted - 2003.08.21 20:53:00 -
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Well I must say i found this somewhat strange too initially. I am Irish, yet do speak English....
I asked this once on a holiday and the guy went quite mad about he didn't English but 'Oirish'. Pretty much the only thing I understood though.
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Athule Snanm
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Posted - 2003.08.21 20:54:00 -
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Actually using a national flag to purely indicate language (and I assume that CCP don't assume that all English speakers are US based, especially seeing as all other languages are banned from the boards) is regarded as a boo-boo when doing localisation. The generally accepted 'correct' method these days is to simply put the name of the language in words.
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Shock
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Posted - 2003.08.21 20:54:00 -
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Edited by: Shock on 21/08/2003 21:39:34
fubar forum...
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Sixxshooter
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Posted - 2003.08.21 21:01:00 -
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I always thought it funny sometimes you get an option for "English" and "International English". WTF is the difference?
The difference is usually in the spelling of certain words (color, colour), and also different countries use different words to represent the same object (trunk, boot). Perhaps ccp is just making a point of saying that they use the american spelling and grammar on their site.
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IZON
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Posted - 2003.08.21 21:12:00 -
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Edited by: IZON on 21/08/2003 21:14:43
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Ignorance, some may call it bliss but we call it 'dumbing down' especially when national identities are concerned...
...And it's a Lift! Not an Elevator 'dammit!'
Hmmm.
If you ever get over to the States for a visit, make sure you bring a small Union Jack to hang in the back window of your car.
It won't earn you any respect, but you will be allowed to use the 'handicapped' parking spaces.
I've travelled quite extensively across the US, backpacking and what not. My backpack had a large'ish Union Jack sewn onto the back and trus' me it earned me loads of respect. Americans jus' 'lurv' us Brits, and they can't get enough of that 'English' accent. I collected enough anecdotes to last me a life time. I won't bore you with them, but some Americans (just a few) think London can be reached by train.  - straight up.
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Joshua Calvert
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Posted - 2003.08.21 21:41:00 -
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Most of the Americans I rotated around in the US didn't realise there's more to the UK than London.
The girls really dig the UK accent though.....
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Kynoch
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Posted - 2003.08.21 21:47:00 -
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There is no such thing as American English, someone please inform Microsoft.
Say No More!
Actually I beg to differ. There is a distinct difference between British/English and American/English. I cant understant a wit of what some of you gits say over there in GB! Lol!
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Shock
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Posted - 2003.08.21 21:48:00 -
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The difference is usually in the spelling of certain words (color, colour), and also different countries use different words to represent the same object (trunk, boot). Perhaps ccp is just making a point of saying that they use the american spelling and grammar on their site.
Icelanding people seem to like the US
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Cervictor
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Posted - 2003.08.21 21:51:00 -
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International English is a bit of an insult to English people (that is people from ENGLAND). Most people from around the world learn English as it is spoken and written in English. Learning how to spell the word "colour" as it should be spelt in England.
All Europeans learn English as it is written in England (let's call it "Proper English"). So please tell me (as I would love to be proven wrong) which countries learn English as the Americans speak and spell it and do these countries outnumber the countries that speak and spell it the "Proper English" way.
From this I'm sure that you'll have noticed that in my opinion, International English should be exactly the same as "Proper English".
Is this America trying to force the world into accepting that their form of English should be the generally accepted form?
Perhaps the language on the help should be called American, with a seperate section for "Proper English"...
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Dragon Emperor
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Posted - 2003.08.21 22:04:00 -
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Edited by: Dragon Emperor on 21/08/2003 22:06:05
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International English is a bit of an insult to English people (that is people from ENGLAND). Most people from around the world learn English as it is spoken and written in English. Learning how to spell the word "colour" as it should be spelt in England.
All Europeans learn English as it is written in England (let's call it "Proper English"). So please tell me (as I would love to be proven wrong) which countries learn English as the Americans speak and spell it and do these countries outnumber the countries that speak and spell it the "Proper English" way.
From this I'm sure that you'll have noticed that in my opinion, International English should be exactly the same as "Proper English".
Is this America trying to force the world into accepting that their form of English should be the generally accepted form?
Perhaps the language on the help should be called American, with a seperate section for "Proper English"...
who care about "proper english"? language is language, if country A use color, then it's THE proper word for country A. if they are using colour in another country B, then it's the proper word for country B. language is changing EVERYDAY, the proper language 100 years age is different than the proper language now. you british people is just ridiculous.
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Cervictor
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Posted - 2003.08.21 22:11:00 -
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My point was that you can't call American English "International English" as most of the International community speak "Proper English".
I never said that it was wrong for Americans to spell colour as color. Don't know where you got that from, I was mearly using it as an example that was mentioned earlier on.
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Hematic
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Posted - 2003.08.21 22:16:00 -
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""Can someone explain this? I thought it was a measurement of length... I could be wrong though.""
It is length. The length however has a meaning. When using any type of lever device, ratchet, steering wheel etc... the further away you move on the lever the more force you can generate. For example if a nut were to take 500 pounds to loosen I could simply apply 50 pounds 9 inches out on the handle and loosen it.
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The Wretch
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Posted - 2003.08.21 22:16:00 -
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Most people around the world associate english with the USA. Right or wrong it is just the way it is. Why does it even matter as long as you know it means english?
The Wretch
Cyberdyne Systems CEO
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Koda
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Posted - 2003.08.21 22:23:00 -
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There is a definite difference between American English and proper English.
Being an American I think we only speak "English" when it suits us and trash it the rest of the time (not agreeing with this practice just stating). l33t speak probably started here (sigh).
This just another example of the world catering to the US's enormous ego. I wish they wouldn't do that.
And for the record - I think British accents are cool too.
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Posted - 2003.08.21 22:30:00 -
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Most people around the world associate english with the USA.
isn't that because half of them hate the US (for such things as microsoft ;)) while the other half are in debt to them? (also, i would disagree with that statement - they think of England)
And why does everyone drag up colour as the example? why not aluminium?
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Ezra Vouland
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Posted - 2003.08.21 22:30:00 -
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Go USA
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Torque Mada
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Posted - 2003.08.21 22:36:00 -
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Hehe, now the English get a feel for what we Scots have been putting up with for centuries.
Were referred to as English. So you can have your language referred to as American.
Nah nah nee nah nah 'n all that jazz.
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Milos Oberonov
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Posted - 2003.08.21 22:41:00 -
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I've travelled quite extensively across the US, backpacking and what not. My backpack had a large'ish Union Jack sewn onto the back and trus' me it earned me loads of respect. Americans jus' 'lurv' us Brits, and they can't get enough of that 'English' accent. I collected enough anecdotes to last me a life time. I won't bore you with them, but some Americans (just a few) think London can be reached by train. - straight up.
Well it can, if you're in Dover... or even Calais.
But that was hardly the fun sort of ribbing I was hoping for. Now you've got my curiosity piqued with those "boring" anecdotes.
Care to share?
"Those who beat their swords into plowshares will one day plow for those who don't." -T. Jefferson |
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Posted - 2003.08.21 22:55:00 -
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Edited by: SkyLeach on 22/08/2003 02:48:46
The Union jack isnt the flag for England either, its the flag for England, Wales, N.Ireland, Scotland, and our Islands.
Some of those other countries and islands have their own Languages. Ive yet to meet an american who sees an English flag and doesent go "whats that.. Swiss flag?"
Not many people know it, but they know the stars and stripes. so.. you could pick at it however it was done.
http://www.koscoflags.com/Hist.St.Georges_Cross.jpg
Also, if you look at world flags... look at how many of them have a union jack on them in the top left corner... theres crap loads of them.
Pictures not allowed, image changed to a link - Wrangler
my god your a jobsworth Wrangler, im sure you make this crap up as you go along.
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Swifthand
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Posted - 2003.08.21 23:08:00 -
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Edited by: Swifthand on 21/08/2003 23:10:05
1. See the people of england don't understand. They speak english beta 0.1, the USA speaks English 2.1 (gold)
So of course it is the one listed.
2. While I am sure the metric system (based on the ten *digits) goes over well in third world countries, where people do not need to take their shoes off to count to 10 the imperial system based on the 12 radians of a circle works better.
Of course having to multyply everything by 12 can get confusing too some, but we in the US dont have to make ourselves sound more important. This is why our women have a problem with measurments. ALl their lives they are taught that 5" is actually 12" but can you imaging the mess if they were taught it was 30.48.
*digits as in fingers and toes.
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Cervictor
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Posted - 2003.08.21 23:18:00 -
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There are only 2*pie radians in a circle which is just over 1/2 of the 12 you think there are.
Looks like you need a system which uses your fingers and your toes, because it doesn't actually look like you can count.
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Swifthand
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Posted - 2003.08.21 23:26:00 -
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Edited by: Swifthand on 21/08/2003 23:29:00
Dang it, I left out the part about the math..
In the US Pye R round, Cornbread R Square.
And everone knows that there are 12 slices on any pie and even Pizza in the US. These are defined by 30 deg radians, now for the brass ring... why 30 degs?
DOH,,, well hint, has to do with the cartesian cordanate system.
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Cervictor
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Posted - 2003.08.21 23:31:00 -
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Dictionary definition:
RADIAN: A unit of angular measure equal to the angle subtended at the center of a circle by an arc equal in length to the radius of the circle, approximately 57¦17'44.6"
I think the word segment is the one you are looking for :P
How can a language that doesn't even use words according to their correct meanings be called english???
Version 2.1 Gold must have been produced by Microsoft....
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LURCH1
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Posted - 2003.08.21 23:31:00 -
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You have nothing better to do than to complain about stupid stuff. This is very childish. everyone needs to just drop it and move on. 
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Kynoch
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Posted - 2003.08.21 23:32:00 -
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Hehe, now the English get a feel for what we Scots have been putting up with for centuries.
Were referred to as English. So you can have your language referred to as American.
Nah nah nee nah nah 'n all that jazz.
Scots kick ass...literally and figuratively. hoot mon!
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BrazHos
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Posted - 2003.08.21 23:34:00 -
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True (original poster) about English coming from 1 country.. not the USA.. but since we kicked all your asses, we now own the rights to everything, so get back to the pub and continue drowning in your sorrow. :)
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Posted - 2003.08.21 23:40:00 -
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"Since when has the American flag usurped the Union Jack as the symbol for 'English' in the help section?"
Oh, I don't know...
Maybe becuase the American Dollar has taken over as the world currency, and the American flag goes right along with that.
If you want to make American Dollars, you need to speak and communicate through the American form of English, not that bastardized version used in the UK.
We own you all...
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SkyLeach
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Posted - 2003.08.21 23:42:00 -
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Edited by: SkyLeach on 21/08/2003 23:46:30
Actually, if you are refereing to the civil war we kicked our own asses.
also, the rebels got their butts handed to them in almost every battle. But won the war, if it wasnt for the French, and our countries interests in other parts of the empire, you would all still be British.
And whitedwarf... the American version is the bastardised version. (note, no Z in that word) reason? most of the people sent to the "new world" where illiterate peasants and pety theives... and it went from there. I dont want to make $. The Russians have all the USD anyway
*nb* please dont turn this into a "we own j00" rant thread, what i said above is factual, but also posted in a jokily way.
PS. we pwn j00.
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Swifthand
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Posted - 2003.08.21 23:47:00 -
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Degree/Radian CircleIn everyone's experience it is usual to measure angles in degrees. We learn early in childhood that there are 360 degrees in a circle, that there are 90 degrees in a right angle, and that the angle of an equilateral triangle contains 60 degrees. On the other hand, to scientists, engineers, and mathematicians it is usual to measure angles in radians.
Again, the hint is "using the cartesian cordinate system"...
As any 1st year draftsman knows. A radian is line segment drawn from the center of a circle out at a distance and degree (also know as the run and fall) but this is a very american concept.
Again,,,
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Cervictor
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Posted - 2003.08.21 23:53:00 -
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Wasn't that a Greek concept?
Is this another example of how something has been bastardised and called American, when it clearly isn't?
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IZON
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Posted - 2003.08.22 00:00:00 -
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The Union jack isnt the flag for England either, its the flag for England, Wales, N.Ireland, Scotland, and our Islands.
Some of those other countries and islands have their own Languages. Ive yet to meet an american who sees an English flag and doesent go "whats that.. Swiss flag?"
Not many people know it, but they know the stars and stripes. so.. you could pick at it however it was done.
http://www.koscoflags.com/Hist.St.Georges_Cross.jpg
Also, if you look at world flags... look at how many of them have a union jack on them in the top left corner... theres crap loads of them.
For those that don't know, the Flag displayed above is the 'St.George'. It's England's national flag. And is quite distinct from the Union Jack which most people are familiar with.
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Eidas
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Posted - 2003.08.22 00:17:00 -
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The English have to accept that the USA is the dominant force on the planet. No one can dispute that. But smaller countries have as much right to defend their heritage as anyone. Americans shouldn't feel they can ride roughshod over other peoples cultures and any English person is within their rights to be affronted by the fact that their language is being hijacked by another culture. Irrespective of who has the most recognisable flag, the English language should be represented by the English flag. To do otherwise is bigoted, small-minded and offensive. It is tantamount to racism.
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IZON
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Posted - 2003.08.22 00:24:00 -
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Edited by: IZON on 22/08/2003 00:26:37
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The English have to accept that the USA is the dominant force on the planet. No one can dispute that. But smaller countries have as much right to defend their heritage as anyone. Americans shouldn't feel they can ride roughshod over other peoples cultures and any English person is within their rights to be affronted by the fact that their language is being hijacked by another culture. Irrespective of who has the most recognisable flag, the English language should be represented by the English flag. To do otherwise is bigoted, small-minded and offensive. It is tantamount to racism.
Thank you Eidas, as they say in the House Of Commons, 'here-here'.
CCP will you please consider replacing the American ensign with a British one, it makes perferct sense, or as somebody suggested, just have text instead.
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Eidas
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Posted - 2003.08.22 00:46:00 -
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Before the forum moderators lock this thread for not being directly related to Eve, I suggest that anyone who feels that the English language is wrongly represented by an American symbol places a bug report or perhaps even a petition as it is clearly an oversight on the part of the developers.
Violence is the last resort of the incompetent. - Isaac Asimov |
Lliad
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Posted - 2003.08.22 01:08:00 -
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Edited by: Lliad on 22/08/2003 01:22:13
I want to see the weight of the ships in stones and pounds. And the length in feet and inches. Take ur American english and metric system else where.
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'but since we kicked all your asses, we now own the rights to everything, so get back to the pub and continue drowning in your sorrow. :)'
I do recall that Britian ruled your little country for a rather long time. Also the last time we were in a war when u delightfull ppl invaded Canada. We sent over troops after we delt with the french, use ran away back to your contry like carebares and begged for peace.
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Plim
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Posted - 2003.08.22 01:17:00 -
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It would have amused me more if they had used the English flag to represent the American language
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Tibor Ferenc
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Posted - 2003.08.22 01:31:00 -
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Edited by: Tibor Ferenc on 22/08/2003 01:33:51
Josh most americans dont know where anything outside the US is (just ask Bush).
Josh from one mackam to another "had away an ****e"
TF,
The LBC
ps. CCP put the right flag up pls.
http://mmogcenter.com/tiborsig.jpg
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Milos Oberonov
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Posted - 2003.08.22 01:37:00 -
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...since we kicked all your asses, we now own the rights to everything, so get back to the pub and continue drowning in your sorrow. :)
That is one thing I'll give the English... they know how to brew beer. For me, top-fermented is where it's at.
Of course, the reason the English became so good at brewing was to take their minds off the cuisine... 
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Negotiator
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Posted - 2003.08.22 01:38:00 -
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anyone up for a jolly****, mates?
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Capt Xpendable
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Posted - 2003.08.22 02:29:00 -
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(why in the name of begeesus did you vote for that guy?).
We didn't, the supreme court did.
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Biscotto
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Posted - 2003.08.22 02:44:00 -
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Of course, the reason the English became so good at brewing was to take their minds off the cuisine...
Right
Big Mac anyone?
The hieght of the USA's culinary donation to the world
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HendriX
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Posted - 2003.08.22 02:49:00 -
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I thought the whining about the miner 2 bp was a useless thread...
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Milos Oberonov
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Posted - 2003.08.22 02:50:00 -
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Of course, the reason the English became so good at brewing was to take their minds off the cuisine...
Right
Big Mac anyone?
The hieght of the USA's culinary donation to the world
Well, we seem to sell enough of them in London. But, mass-produced semicomestibles aside, it has been refreshing to see urban England embrace a new signature dish: Curry.
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Biscotto
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Posted - 2003.08.22 02:57:00 -
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cant beat a good curry
you made me hungry now
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Milos Oberonov
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Posted - 2003.08.22 03:00:00 -
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cant beat a good curry
you made me hungry now
I made me hungry too, truly.
But you can't get vandalu (my favorite) anywhere in Rocky Mount, North Carolina, unless you're invited to eat dinner with the family who runs the Best Western.
[sigh] 
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SkyLeach
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Posted - 2003.08.22 03:05:00 -
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Edited by: SkyLeach on 22/08/2003 03:09:02
Vindaloo?
thats damn hot, a proper vindaloo is also made with potatoes and pork. but as most of the curry houses are run by Arabs in the UK they never sell a real Vindaloo. They just take a lamb curry and add crap loads of chilli powder and then laugh at the crazy drunk english clubbers.
Try a Tindaloo... thats the hotest you can get, and i promise you will shotgun the toilet for a month.
i cook authentic indian food, i can give you recipies to make your own if you want, from korma to vindaloo and sundries like popadoms and bahji.
...im sounding like an escapee from day time TV, i beter go to bed...
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Biscotto
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Posted - 2003.08.22 03:11:00 -
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That the same as vindaloo, very hot and spicy?
Personal favourite is madras, with sag aloo, (spicy spinach) and vegetable rice with a naan bread of some sort.
followed by 3 hrs in front of tv groaning with indegestion.
But this not eve related, but nice to meet a curry fan
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SkyLeach
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Posted - 2003.08.22 03:14:00 -
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Edited by: SkyLeach on 22/08/2003 03:14:41
Saag gosht, with peshwari naan, and pilau rice.
or, in English, Lamb (or goat) +spinnach curry, with spicy meat stuffed in a flat bread, and colored rice ;)
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RazorDreamz
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Posted - 2003.08.22 03:30:00 -
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Get a life.
Enough said.
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HendriX
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Posted - 2003.08.22 03:31:00 -
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Where do we get those, TTI sell em?
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Capt Xpendable
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Posted - 2003.08.22 03:38:00 -
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Edited by: Capt Xpendable on 22/08/2003 03:39:27
I tried life once. It's slow, hard to play, and the rich keep getting richer by using exploits in the system.
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HendriX
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Posted - 2003.08.22 03:45:00 -
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While you are that hot, can you blo me?
I think bush is the only person who fell off a segway...
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Molly
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Posted - 2003.08.22 03:45:00 -
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Can someone lock this thread please?
It is politics and some stuff is very offending.
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Turtle
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Posted - 2003.08.22 04:02:00 -
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What a fun topic, where to start.
Ok, the US measurement systems was provided by the English. Is England now on the metric system. Was this done because you are part of the Europeon Union.
Just a quick note about measurements. Did you know that planes built for commercial use are all built using standard tools and not metric. I don't care where the plane is built they all use the same tools.
Now English and who's flag if any should denote it, is an interesting subject also. We could use almost any countries flag where english is the offical language. Coming to mind are United Kingdom, the United States, Canada, Australia, New Zealand, South Africa and there are more.
The english language is truly a melting pot language that can be traced back to about 5AD brought over to England by invading Angles, Saxons and Jutes. This is old english. The lanuage has had many changes since then. Many coming from Latin, Greek, Scandinavian and French. Take all that into account and you have modern day english. Modern day english uses words from over 50 different languanges.
Now American English is slighly different. You would include Canada in this grouping with just a vary few differences. But at the end of the day when looking at the written language there is very little differences regardless of where it was written.
Last point the english langauge taught to most of the non-speaking english world is basic english. This is the international language. It contains only about 850 words. The latest english dict contain about 600,000 words. The only thing that the English crow about here is that 2 English gents created it. If you are from a englishing speaking you don't speak it.
English is the most widely spoken language in the world today except for Chinese. One thing you can be sure of is what all of us call english today will be much changed tomorrow.
And that my friends is the end of todays class. Pleas pardon any spelling errors.
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Lliad
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Posted - 2003.08.22 04:31:00 -
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Edited by: Lliad on 22/08/2003 04:34:27
The British flag should be used to represent the international English language. England is the clear origin of the English language. All languages are created by the merging of 2 or more languages over time and many are heavly influence by other cultures that are strong.
There is no reason for the American flag to be used in this way. American English in my opinion is just a slang form of English. The same way as Scotland Ireland England and Wales all have different variations on the same fundamental language.
So why should the British falg be used to symbolise the English language.
HISTORY. When Britian ruled 2/3 of the world it introduced its own language as the main method of communication between different countries. Thus the British flag symbolises the English language to the international community and so should be used.
Next we will have Eve standard time changing to American timezones.
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Dufas
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Posted - 2003.08.22 05:16:00 -
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USA = Super Power.....enuff said!!! stop crying and get over it
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Pann
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Posted - 2003.08.22 05:18:00 -
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Please observe the forum rules and do not bash one another's nationalities. Thanks.
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