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Jacob Majestic	Posted - 2006.03.01 01:15:00 - [121] Edited by: Jacob Majestic on 01/03/2006 01:17:57 Originally by: Butter Dog Oh, just NAP us... You know you want to really You can come on an ISS mining op if you're really good :p We'll have to convoy to Litom to refine the ore, though Originally by: Raid I would go so far as to say the ISS is nothing but glorified arms dealers! As for ISS being arms dealers, we have no control over what people put on the market for sale. Blaming ISS for being the purveyor of combat ships is like blaming GalNet for being the purveyor of naughty slaver holoreels.
Zooish	Posted - 2006.03.01 04:35:00 - [122] Well Curse Coalition, you got spanked today ...... hows life when its equal numbers and were not flying haulers ... The funny thing was you coming back with a 18 man fleet and losing two on the other side of the gate while you tried to get the courage to jump in..... 18 against the 3 ships at the gate .. even you must be able to fight with those odds. Please come back soon, the is PvP training and the hostiles don't shoot back
Raid	Posted - 2006.03.01 05:00:00 - [123] Originally by: Zooish Edited by: Zooish on 01/03/2006 04:52:44 Well Curse Coalition and friends, you got spanked today ...... hows life when its equal numbers and were not flying haulers ... The funny thing was you coming back with a 18 man fleet and losing two on the other side of the gate while you tried to get the courage to jump in..... 18 against the 3 ships on the other side .. even you must be able to fight with those odds. Please come back soon, the is PvP training and the hostiles don't shoot back Your battleships spent the entire time 150km away. Whenever the fight wasnt 150km away you would warp to your station and sit there in docking range. As for getting "spanked"... LOL hardly. If your alliance had any sense of communication the dozen or so pilots that wandered into our fleet would not have gotten killed. Check your scanner for corpses, there is a surprisingly large number of ISS corpses in KDF and surrounding systems. So before you go saying you spanked us, keep in mind while not sitting 150km away from you we were out there massacring your alliance.
Innsu	Posted - 2006.03.01 07:53:00 - [124] Originally by: Butter Dog Oh, just NAP us... You know you want to really You can come on an ISS mining op if you're really good :p please please please dont mention the 'm' word, Not our idea of fun!
James Lyrus	Posted - 2006.03.01 09:30:00 - [125] KDF-GY is certainly proving an interesting, up and coming place to be these days. I'm far from what you'd call a hardcore combat pilot, but I'm learning (admittedly, somewhat slowly). I shall suggest to members of the ISS Diplomacy team, that they get in touch. It might be we can't figure out something, but at least we can have a nice chat :). -- We are recruiting We sell carriers.
Butter Dog	Posted - 2006.03.01 11:26:00 - [126] Originally by: Raid Your battleships spent the entire time 150km away. Whenever the fight wasnt 150km away you would warp to your station and sit there in docking range. As for getting "spanked"... LOL hardly. If your alliance had any sense of communication the dozen or so pilots that wandered into our fleet would not have gotten killed. Check your scanner for corpses, there is a surprisingly large number of ISS corpses in KDF and surrounding systems. So before you go saying you spanked us, keep in mind while not sitting 150km away from you we were out there massacring your alliance. Oh, sitting 150km from the gate and not engaging. That sounds kind of familiar... Doril on sunday night ring any bells :p Couple of things to bear in mind here: You're fighting a non-PvP alliance and we're still killing lots of your ships :) The large number of corpses are due to this - we fit fully insured T1 suicide squads (ships handed out free to volunteers) and after killing a T2 ship, we get a free clone jump back to Marginis courtesy of your ammo Actually, only yesterday we took out a Taranis, and the day before an Enyo, using only a T1 frig suicide gang of PvP noobs. And three of the people in the little gang had never even PvP'd before or used Teamspeak, haha. Nice one CC. We're not in it for the killmails you see, we're playing a more intelligent game than that. You are welcome to collect as many of our corpses as you like, while we train up a new generation of PvPers. :) ------------------ The viewpoints expressed are my own, not necessarily those of my Corporation or Alliance.
Rebekah	Posted - 2006.03.01 11:44:00 - [127] Originally by: Butter Dog Actually, only yesterday we took out a Taranis, and the day before an Enyo, using only a T1 frig suicide gang of PvP noobs. And three of the people in the little gang had never even PvP'd before or used Teamspeak 2006.02.28 22:13 Victim: Butter Dog Alliance: Interstellar Starbase Syndicate Corp: ISS Navy Task Force Destroyed: Incursus System: Litom Security: 0.0 2006.02.28 22:14 Victim: Butter Dog Alliance: Interstellar Starbase Syndicate Corp: ISS Navy Task Force Destroyed: Capsule System: Litom Security: 0.0 So ... Hmmm ... always know you were a nOOb!
Butter Dog	Posted - 2006.03.01 12:47:00 - [128] Edited by: Butter Dog on 01/03/2006 12:49:06 Haha, very funny :) I was leading the gang for the benefit of the non-PvPers :) Here's what we got in return for that Incursus: 2006.02.28 22:13 Victim: DrDevice Alliance: None Corp: The Priory Destroyed: Taranis System: Litom Security: 0.0 :p ------------------ The viewpoints expressed are my own, not necessarily those of my Corporation or Alliance.
semp	Posted - 2006.03.01 13:38:00 - [129] Careful guys, your not allowed to post killmails on the forums, would hate to get this thread locked, when were having so much fun :)
Archonon	Posted - 2006.03.01 14:11:00 - [130] Can i post the ISS freighter's Kill ? rolf - Good luck CC&friends have a lot of t2&fun - _______________________ XIII's member in local and all docked in Curse XIII's fleet around -V-'s dread and they called for Blob-jamming-Backup
Jacob Majestic	Posted - 2006.03.01 15:39:00 - [131] Originally by: Archonon Can i post the ISS freighter's Kill ? rolf - Good luck CC&friends have a lot of t2&fun - Only if CC gets to post the RA dread kill LORF
Lt Hole	Posted - 2006.03.01 16:03:00 - [132] Originally by: Jacob Majestic Originally by: Archonon Can i post the ISS freighter's Kill ? rolf - Good luck CC&friends have a lot of t2&fun - Only if CC gets to post the RA dread kill LORF You're a DOODY-HEAD!
semp	Posted - 2006.03.01 16:23:00 - [133] Edited by: semp on 01/03/2006 16:23:43 The Mongo kill (Dread) and the RA Kill (dread) are both on this thread, as for RA posting their kills/and other jibber jabber here.....make your own thread !!! f1 f2 f3
Butter Dog	Posted - 2006.03.01 17:13:00 - [134] Originally by: semp Edited by: semp on 01/03/2006 16:23:43 The Mongo kill (Dread) and the RA Kill (dread) are both on this thread, as for RA posting their kills/and other jibber jabber here.....make your own thread !!! f1 f2 f3 Yeah! you tell them! PS - Want to NAP and fight RAT? ------------------ The viewpoints expressed are my own, not necessarily those of my Corporation or Alliance.
Jacob Majestic	Posted - 2006.03.01 20:04:00 - [135] Originally by: Butter Dog Originally by: semp The Mongo kill (Dread) and the RA Kill (dread) are both on this thread, as for RA posting their kills/and other jibber jabber here.....make your own thread !!! f1 f2 f3 Yeah! you tell them! PS - Want to NAP and fight RAT? Mmm, targets
Distrans	Posted - 2006.03.01 21:17:00 - [136] Not quite sure if this is on topic, allow for a jealous inquiry: Butter Dog what is it You apply to get that wicked hairdo done, illegal? I have been messing around but the spikes keep springing up, alas... The dreadful sight alone must make our bald friends at Tyrell tumble!
Butter Dog	Posted - 2006.03.02 10:23:00 - [137] haha, Actually my hair in RL is very similar (but without the red bit). I use this 'matte paste' stuff - texture without the shine :P ------------------ The viewpoints expressed are my own, not necessarily those of my Corporation or Alliance.
Jacob Majestic	Posted - 2006.03.02 20:42:00 - [138] Originally by: Distrans Not quite sure if this is on topic, allow for a jealous inquiry: Butter Dog what is it You apply to get that wicked hairdo done, illegal? I have been messing around but the spikes keep springing up, alas... The dreadful sight alone must make our bald friends at Tyrell tumble! When Butter was still a freshman pod-pilot, he stuck his finger in a pod-socket on a dare. He looks relatively normal for someone who's had thirteen operations, doesn't he?
Butter Dog	Posted - 2006.03.05 23:04:00 - [139] NEWSFLASH After a joint ISS/IAC fleet of 30 ships leisurely camped Curse for about 45 minutes, popping a few decent ships in the process, CC finally realised (despite having 3 Priory in the system) and began massing against the 'threat' of someone who dares allow neutral traffic use the Doril pipe. In time honoured tradition, they refused to engage without superior numbers (yes even against carebears like us). They came to KDF with about 45 in gang, and even then lost a Manticore and took more ISK damage than us. After a few minutes sitting outside our station wondering what to do, they left. Well done CC, another fine example of PvPing at its best. ------------------ The ISS Navy is recruiting. See this thread for further details. www.eve-iss.com
DogTyred	Posted - 2006.03.05 23:22:00 - [140] Bagdad Bob strikes again. I think you'll find we were pretty well even numbers to your fleet parked outside station, and you all docked, but hey that's what happens when you get trained by Mongo i guess, is it some kinda docking script you use there ? . After waiting for 30 mins for some activity we left.
Butter Dog	Posted - 2006.03.05 23:27:00 - [141] You're a self claimed PvP alliance. We are an industrial alliance. And in pretty much every fight I've encountered with CC, we've inflicted more ISK damage than you. Seems like you're the ones who need lessons in PvP. ------------------ The ISS Navy is recruiting. See this thread for further details. www.eve-iss.com
olan2005	Posted - 2006.03.06 01:00:00 - [142] bet that was expensive
Mezrein	Posted - 2006.03.06 04:47:00 - [143] Originally by: Rebekah ### NEWS FROM THE FRONT LINE ### jibber jabba I thought id take the time to assist your reporting and correct some of your facts On the 26th ISS did indeed form a large fleet - the sole purpose of which was to engage the hostile fleet camping doril, mainly curse coalition and im sure some of your allies were present in the system. Gang size never surpassed 37, 7 of which were battleships, we were later joined by several IAC ships that followed us to dorill, no battleships a handful of interceptors and frigates. On our approach of dorill CC decided that instead of engaging us on the gate with their full fleet, which it self was around 30 ships strong 10 of which were long range battleships, CC left the gate and took up sniper positions. We were quite happy to engage your full force on the gate knowing you had position and that we would eventually have to warp out and probably loose many ships in the process. We were all set for close range combat having no battleships capable of fighting at your range it was a battle we could never have won. However it was not to be what could have been a hard fought battle on the gate between two equal fleets (1 better equipped, trained and with position, the other greater in numbers) turned into a 150km sniping contest. We relised what you had planned and immediatly on jumping into doril warped away from the gate as the cc snipers came into range. We spent a short time in local with scouts all over the system hoping the CC fleet would form up on a gate or station where we could engage but alas they remained at a safespot, there was no other choice but to return to kdf. After reaching KDF the majority of the fleet docked and a few minutes break had been agree'd upon, however several ships from the fleet remained outside camping the zx gate. A communication break down between scouts and the remaining ships resulted in the small group of 10-20ships engaging a much larger curse coalition and CDC fleet on the gate. It didnt go well for the iss group obviously. " ... so much for the penguins!" I'm glad to see CC thinks so highly of us It has been a hard week, we have had the best from many alliances come down on us and we have fought when ever possible , we are not ones to shy away from a fight. CC/CDC/BOB/SA/RA/RAT and the odd random pirates all come to play around kdf (apologies if i forgot you) we will continue to do our best to welcome hostiles with open arms and loaded cannons. ABP is recruiting
Kristoffer	Posted - 2006.03.06 05:09:00 - [144] Originally by: Butter Dog You're a self claimed PvP alliance. We are an industrial alliance. And in pretty much every fight I've encountered with CC, we've inflicted more ISK damage than you. Seems like you're the ones who need lessons in PvP. What are you on? You came to Litom, we assembled to meet you. You brought a Carrier into Litom. Then you run away. You play warrior, and then run away when the real warriors come.
semp	Posted - 2006.03.06 07:19:00 - [145] "CC/CDC/BOB/SA/RA/RAT" For a Alliance claiming neutrality in 0.0 space, thats quite a fan club you've got going already. Maybe you can start selling T shirts ? FRONT "I went to ISS Space, but all i got was this stupid kill mail." BACK Copy of the pilots kill mail as they jumped into ISS Space
Butter Dog	Posted - 2006.03.06 08:34:00 - [146] Edited by: Butter Dog on 06/03/2006 08:36:54 Originally by: semp "CC/CDC/BOB/SA/RA/RAT" For a Alliance claiming neutrality in 0.0 space, thats quite a fan club you've got going already. Maybe you can start selling T shirts ? Well, of those CC, CDC, and RAT are little more than common pirates. We expect to be targeted by them. BoB see us as targets of opportunity but are not openly hostile toward us and have said openly on these forums that they respect what we are trying to do. SA and RA also see us as targets of opportunity. The difference is, these PvP alliances actually spend their time fighting other PvP alliances and we respect them for that. You on the other hand just low-level pirate in the Doril pipe and send the odd fleet to KDF to lock down a small segment of an industrial alliance every now and then, gaining nothing in the process. The mark of our increasing success is that CC/CDC can no longer send small groups of random pirates to KDF. You have to come with nothing short of your whole fleet these days, and even then we generally destroy more ISK than you. We consider this a vast improvement on the previous security situation and are very happy with how events are progressing in our favour to date. ------------------ The ISS Navy is recruiting. See this thread for further details. www.eve-iss.com
Butter Dog	Posted - 2006.03.06 10:33:00 - [147] Originally by: Kristoffer You brought a Carrier into Litom. We didnt bring any capital ships into Litom. We noticed the cyno field too, it wasnt ours. We know who it belonged to, and if your scouts were any good, you would too. ------------------ The ISS Navy is recruiting. See this thread for further details. www.eve-iss.com
Gabriel Karade	Posted - 2006.03.06 11:43:00 - [148] Originally by: DogTyred Bagdad Bob strikes again. I think you'll find we were pretty well even numbers to your fleet parked outside station, and you all docked, but hey that's what happens when you get trained by Mongo i guess, is it some kinda docking script you use there ? . After waiting for 30 mins for some activity we left. We had a gang of 34, only 11 of us in Battleships. You had 8 scorpions, we had 2....go figure.... Oh and w.r.t. the Cyno fields, one of them turned out to be an RA pilot (we thought it was you guys) the second one in Litom (which we also thought was you guys) turned out to be neutral - Office Linebacker -
Gypsy Djinn	Posted - 2006.03.06 16:00:00 - [149] Butter you are some piece of work, one minute you are preaching how you are a neutral entity and want to NAP everyone and their brother, the next you are slinging insults and smack like a 2 month old empire pirate. You come on these eve-online forums and spout off about how your alliance is a peaceful industrial entity that makes no claims to any region and only want neutrality in the area and out of the other side of your mouth how people are "common pirates" and are sub-par combatants and that your militarily superior forces are justified in killing (or more accurately hiring others to kill for you) these entities. I have news for you ISS and KDF are a side show, nothing more then a training exercise for our newer pilots to get use to fighting in larger squads so that when we take them into battles with real enemies and camp fleets that pose a real threat they will be use to the organized discipline that is required to fight in large groups. We don't focus on ISS or IAC, nor have we ever brought the full weight of our attentions to bear on either, your pilots are killed for the exact same type of things that you have posted here, and will continue to be until such time as you learn your place in the hierarchy of EvE. Your "mark of success" against VIRII and cDc is ludicrous at best, we don't send small groups to KDF because we have directed our pilots to other areas that we have decided are of more strategic importance. We are not a large entity, maybe 1/8 the size of ISS and quite a bit less then the combined numbers of ISS and IAC and while our small gangs are quite successful when out hunting when we decide to move in force or fight an enemy in force we naturally have to focus our forces in those areas. I am not sure what mathematical formula you are using to determine that you have the upper hand against cDc in any areas let alone damage in terms of ISK cost, but by my calculations you are no where near being in the black. If however you dispute this I am more then willing to provide hard evidence to back my claim, as I am sure you can provide to back your farcical claims. I find your posts and actions to be licentious at best, but perhaps you just don't know any better and feel being boisterously mendacious is in your and your alliance's best interest, you will however find you are sadly mistaken. Now I am sure from reading your posts that you are not one of the most informed members of the EvE community, so I will offer you some free advice, if you truly are concerned with your alliance and its future I suggest you do everything in your power to avoid us changing our minds about you being unworthy of our full attention. All forum nonsense aside maybe you should ask around about what happens to alliances that VIRII decides are focused targets before you go slandering us in a public forum, maybe even heed the warning that one of your biggest investors sent and not provoke us, because in the end those are the real people you have to worry about, not outside forces. When your investors decide that you are no longer able to manage and secure their investment they will find someone who can, and in short order. The more I read these forums the more I am coming to the conclusion that the inhabitants of the RNF-KDF area are in serious need of more attention and the lessons that the pilots in those areas will learn from that. Maybe as a service to your investors, many of which are very close friends of VIRII and cDc, we should show them just what a precarious position their investment is in, so they can find more suitable persons with a more realistic and civil approach to manage it. V I R I I HeadQuarters http://virii.homeip.net V I R I I - We Are Here For Your Daughters
Butter Dog	Posted - 2006.03.06 16:28:00 - [150] You're right. To a degree, I am posturing. I just find it amusing on some levels that our industrial alliance is starting to take more care of itself militarily. We've attained neutrality and friendly terms with many alliances and pirate organisations. We've tried talking NAP's with VIRII and CC, and we now understand its never going to happen. You're never going to stop attacking ISS traffic heading to KDF using the Doril pipe so we would never agree to an NAP in the absence of that. You may brag how VIRII is focusing on bigger things, but you spend your whole time gate camping and shooting at haulers the Doril pipe then claim its all some part of some wider 'masterplan' we're all unaware of. Kind of strange. We're far too decentralised for you to pose any real threat. If you want an NAP, that would be great. If you don't, we just don't care anymore. You're a non-issue and a managable size for us to encourage ISS members to practice PvP against. Its not co-incidence that low-level pirating in KDF is greatly reduced. We are responsible for that, not you, and without bringing your whole fleet down you can't really do much. I have seen countless smaller VIRII gangs come down, hang at the gates when they realise we have an almost 23/7 military presence in KDF, and then turn back with their tails between their legs. We respect you as PvPers, to be sure, but we have 1300 members spread across the 4 corners of EVE. Its simply not possible to wage a sustained campaign against such a decentralised alliance, as I'm sure you recognise yourself. Fact is, ISS stands for something, and its achieved great things. And you? Well you gank haulers in the Doril pipe. I know which organisation I would rather be a part of. ------------------ The ISS Navy is recruiting. See this thread for further details. www.eve-iss.com

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