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Vegeta
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Posted - 2003.08.23 11:38:00 -
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BattleShip = BS
Blackbird = BB
Theres not two B's in Battleship so it cant possibly be BB.
(BS can also mean bullsh*t)
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j0sephine
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Posted - 2003.08.23 11:48:00 -
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... 'BB' is a Navy indicator for battleship iirc.
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Luther Pendragon
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Posted - 2003.08.23 11:52:00 -
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US Navy ships are designated by two letters. The first B in BB is for Battleship. Lacking a second word, the B is repeated. Thus, a US Navy battleship is called a BB. ____________________________________ Taggart wants YOU. Join TTi! *waves his hand in your face in the jedi way* |

Entity
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Posted - 2003.08.23 12:14:00 -
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Just think of it as BattleBoat I guess ;-)
<imagines rubber boat with a mounted machinegun>
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Recondite
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Posted - 2003.08.23 13:07:00 -
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Quote: Just think of it as BattleBoat I guess ;-)
<imagines rubber boat with a mounted machinegun>
I confess, I always read it as that.
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Riddari
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Posted - 2003.08.23 14:58:00 -
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Eve isn't the US Navy

I'll continue to refer to battleships as BS (irregardless of the other meanings "BS" has) and blackbirds as BB. You navy folks may continue but don't be surprised if we fail to understand when you ask about BB equipment that is not EW related.
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Jarjar
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Posted - 2003.08.23 14:59:00 -
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I agree with Riddari. I'm not even from the US, so who cares. 
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Erick Thakrar
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Posted - 2003.08.23 15:01:00 -
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It's not just the US Navy that uses that term. It's pretty much standard military terminology. So it's BB, not BS. Ya Hya Chouhada!!! |

Nephlite
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Posted - 2003.08.23 15:01:00 -
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bb = blackbird BB = Battleship
To argue otherwise is only to make yourself appear ignorant of the real world.
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Riddari
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Posted - 2003.08.23 15:13:00 -
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Quote: To argue otherwise is only to make yourself appear ignorant of the real world.
Oh my god I'm so sorry that I am not a registered Navy person in a real world battlefleet.
This Is Not The Real World
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Endureth
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Posted - 2003.08.23 16:13:00 -
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Edited by: Endureth on 24/08/2003 05:13:54
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Quote: To argue otherwise is only to make yourself appear ignorant of the real world.
Oh my god I'm so sorry that I am not a registered Navy person in a real world battlefleet.
This Is Not The Real World
No reason for you to continue with your ignorance then. Whether you are a navy person or not (I was army) you should know the designations of ships at sea. BB is the designation for battleship, it is used by every nation.
-E
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John Zeppe
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Posted - 2003.08.23 16:26:00 -
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So now we'll have to rename the "BB" to the "Blackbird", otherwise people will get confused. Sigh.
Do you really believe using "bb" vs "BB" would make the matter BETTER? Lol. People would be confused like hell, esp. when lots of people aren't even using shift/caps lock ingame.
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Factory Boy
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Posted - 2003.08.23 16:37:00 -
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A lot of "BS" being talked here, thats for sure!
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zoop
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Posted - 2003.08.23 16:46:00 -
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Quote: Whether you are a navy person or not (I was army) you should know the designations of ships at see
it also helps if you can spell sea
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Riddari
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Posted - 2003.08.23 17:05:00 -
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Quote: Just because YOU can't grasp the concept doesn't mean it's going to change.
And just how many people playing EVE are navy people?
FYI Iceland has a total of 3 frigates I think, that's our coast guard. We don't have an army, navy or air force and for good reasons too.
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Callas
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Posted - 2003.08.23 17:09:00 -
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Quote: BattleShip = BS
Blackbird = BB
Theres not two B's in Battleship so it cant possibly be BB.
(BS can also mean bullsh*t)
BB is navel parliance for battleship.
Sounds a lot nicer than BS to me, too.
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Endureth
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Posted - 2003.08.23 17:12:00 -
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Quote: FYI Iceland has a total of 3 frigates I think, that's our coast guard. We don't have an army, navy or air force and for good reasons too.
The designation for a frigate is FF. Who woulda thought.
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NTRabbit
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Posted - 2003.08.23 17:15:00 -
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I have this argument with people in my corp every week, a battleship is BB not BS. A cruiser is CC and a frigate is FF. To get technical the caracal is a CCG and a kestrel is an FFG.
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Nephlite
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Posted - 2003.08.23 17:43:00 -
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Edited by: Nephlite on 23/08/2003 17:51:48 You should use the navy term because Eve uses terminology from the navy. They call them Battleships and Frigates and etc no? Not "Big ship with big guns," "Space doomship," "Dragon of death class attack ship" and etc. Where does the term "Battleship" and etc come from? You guessed it, the navy!
Thus if its established that Eve follows navy terminology, its not too far fetched to follow the navy abrivations.
Basically anybody arguing otherwise is saying "I'm too simple minded to think outside of using B and S because its in the name."
In my corp a blackbird is "bb" and Battleship is "BB."
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Trel Latham
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Posted - 2003.08.23 18:08:00 -
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"everyone's confused by the acronyms! we can't learn all the meanings! it's too hard, help, help!!!"
Stop using acronyms.
If you want to refer to the word "battleship", use the word "battleship". If you want to refer to the word "blackbird", use the word "blackbird".
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Fritz Ionar
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Posted - 2003.08.23 18:11:00 -
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"a battleship is BB not BS. A cruiser is CC and a frigate is FF."
That seems like a waste of characters. why not just B, C and F then 
I would sugest that every one use BB or BS, what ever you fell comfortable with. I don't think any one could mistake BS for anything but battleship if they actualy read the sentence it is used in... 
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Draka
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Posted - 2003.08.23 19:13:00 -
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Been having the same argument since Beta. Ain't gonna change. I will still use BB for Battleship, CA for heavy cruiser, CL for light cruiser, FF for Frigate, etc because it is ingrained from 30 plus years of usage. The rest of ya'll kin do as ya want - and when talking ta anyone outside my normal community I'll spell out the words so as not to confuse ya. CEO The Cinnaban Order "Dedicated to a Free Minmatar Republic" |

zoop
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Posted - 2003.08.23 20:15:00 -
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***** lot....those navy boys 
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Askari
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Posted - 2003.08.23 21:29:00 -
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This gets my pointless thread of the week vote and its not even monday yet.
 For all those that know the correct terms, Im happy for you, if ever a battleships steams its way through your local shopping centre you will be able to shout out a warning quicker than anyone else, although most wont know what the hell your talking about and get squished anyway.
For all those that dont know, dont stress about it, the closest your likely to get to a battleship is the Discovery channel.
O, and its a game, so the correct term should probably be P for Polygon. ---------------- ~= Askari =~
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Akunosh Ryo
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Posted - 2003.08.23 23:06:00 -
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I can't believe I sat here and read this thread.
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Nariko Tenrai
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Posted - 2003.08.23 23:06:00 -
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Personally, I don't care what acronym people use for what, so long as I can understand what they're talking about through context. Personally, I use the standard USN/RN nomenclature - not because I'm a "navy person," but because I read a lot of history, particularly about WWII sea campaigns.
For the sake of edification:
CT - Corvette TB - Torpedo Boat FF - Frigate FFG - Guided Missile Frigate DE - Destroyer Escort DD - Destroyer DDG - Guided Missile Destroyer CL - Light Cruiser CA - Heavy Cruiser (originally "Armored Cruiser") CG - Guided Missile Cruiser CV - Aircraft Carrier (originally "Aviation Cruiser") CVL - Light Carrier (a small CV) CVE - Escort Carrier (an even smaller CV) BC - Battlecruiser (guns of a battleship, speed and armor of a heavy cruiser) BB - Battleship
I'm sure there are more, But I don't think it's worth *****ing open Jane's Fighting Ships of World War II.
On a tangential topic, Iceland was a very important Allied naval station in WWII, serving as a fueling stop and airbase for convoy escorts. Many lives were saved from U-Boats thanks to its position. - - - -
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Thallia
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Posted - 2003.08.24 03:29:00 -
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Quote: No reason for you to continue with your ignorance then. Whether you are a navy person or not (I was army) you should know the designations of ships at sea. BB is the designation for battleship, it is used by every nation.
Not in mine...
Calling a BatleShip a BB is just non-sense in this game, the game is not even from USA.
And for the heck of it, I didn't know what was a BB before reading this thread. I figured out the BS thing by myself.
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Thallia
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Posted - 2003.08.24 03:38:00 -
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To lighten my preceding post, instead of telling us we are dumb, just point us to some page with the definitions of all ingame acronyms, that'll definitely help...
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Scathain
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Posted - 2003.08.24 04:20:00 -
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I dislike the name battleship lacks something i usualy call mine my BC. BC=Battle Crusier =============================================== I fart in your general direction! you Mother was a hampster and your Father reaked of elderberry
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Endureth
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Posted - 2003.08.24 05:10:00 -
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Quote: To lighten my preceding post, instead of telling us we are dumb, just point us to some page with the definitions of all ingame acronyms, that'll definitely help...
Ignorance and dumb are not the same thing. I did not call anyone dumb. When a child puts his hand onto the flames of a stove, that child is ignorant. When an adult who knows better does it, he is dumb.
You are not dumb.
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