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Night Sword
Dedicated Individuals Conditioned to Kill B O R G
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Posted - 2013.09.21 19:43:00 -
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So many cry-baby b****es in this thread. Go back to WoW |

Goldensaver
Personal Defense LtD.
238
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Posted - 2013.09.21 20:05:00 -
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Night Sword wrote:So many cry-baby b****es in this thread. Go back to WoW So many constructive posters in this thread putting up logical and reasonable arguments as to why the "cry-baby b****es" are wrong. Astounding. |

Onictus
Silver Snake Enterprise Fatal Ascension
524
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Posted - 2013.09.22 08:58:00 -
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Goldensaver wrote:Night Sword wrote:So many cry-baby b****es in this thread. Go back to WoW So many constructive posters in this thread putting up logical and reasonable arguments as to why the "cry-baby b****es" are wrong. Astounding.
Dude got caught ratting, odds are he would have died to a T1 cruiser as well.
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Verity Sovereign
Sovereign Fleet Tax Shelter
559
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Posted - 2013.09.22 11:12:00 -
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All the ad hominem attacks you want won't make an argument against nerfing the cynabal.
What happened to the OP is irrelevant. |

Onictus
Silver Snake Enterprise Fatal Ascension
524
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Posted - 2013.09.22 11:42:00 -
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Verity Sovereign wrote:All the ad hominem attacks you want won't make an argument against nerfing the cynabal.
What happened to the OP is irrelevant.
Yes we know, nerf it all. Sounds exciting. |

Lloyd Roses
Blue-Fire Confederation of xXPIZZAXx
252
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Posted - 2013.09.22 11:58:00 -
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Trying again:
The cynabal is one of the weakest tanked ships. Unless it can maneuver in a spot where it cannot be hit (the existance of such a spot is a neessity to engage anything at all), it cannot fight. It is an excellent noobhunter, and works wonderfully in nullsec, but that's mostly to the locally deceased piloting skills, as years of relying on falcons have rendered most people weak and crippled.
The normal Cynabal is either 2 LSE or three LSE tanked, with the extremely rare exception of LSE/XL-ASB (i.E. this fit doesn't matter), has normally a point and eventually a web or dualprop for the 2 LSE varaiation. All got a sig of 180m+ in average, as most people only got shield rigging to III or IV. So it's a glowing star easily trackable by all it's predators: zealot, raildeimos, caracal, cerb, oracle, tornado, artymuninn, railvigilant, vagabond, any HPL or MPL platform, talos, railthorax, ishtar, absolution, railastarte, NOmen, Nexqueror to an extent, and lastly the Scythe FI all wipe the floor with a cynabal regarding either or both tank+dps-application.
What speaks in favor of the cynabal is it's faster align, but else a similiarly skilled cynapilot (not SP, actual piloting competence) running into any of those encounters on a solo basis will receive more applied damage than he is able to dish out most of the time, take 2 cnas and 2 of those and the cyna is even looking worse.
What is still speaking for the cynabal is the ability to carry TWO SETS of drones (EC-300 + warriors), with the ganking application of a flight of hammerheads. Those hammerheads are frequently ou-dps'ing your turrets on the side, to give a statement on how much of your 350dps barrage you're actually applying (rarely flew a cyna since the NOmen got revamped, cause the cyna got ****** exactly that moment)
So if you actually manage to die to a cynabal, it wasn't because that ship is sooooo strong on all accounts, but cause it's strong on one single remaining account: Mobility.
Besides mobility, the cynabal is getting out-damaged, out-drone'd, outtanked and in the case of the NOmen yet even outrun and held indefinetely cause unlike you, he does have the cap to keep those mods running using proper armorkite-fit. The only things remaining that have to fear a lone cynabal are shitfit T1-cruisers, slow SR-ships that can't apply dps back (that can sometimes be a 1bil hamlegion (*yay*) or just a very great navy brutix and a bunch of smaller stuff that is trying to fight the wrong fight, running ino exactly the same issues they'd have against any T1 cruiser for a fracture of the price.
Hope that is constructive enough to highlight the cynabal's remaining strength. https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=3633385&#post3633385
- The right corp to join if welping a 10bil fleet makes you want to welp a 20bil fleet right afterwards |

baltec1
Bat Country
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Posted - 2013.09.22 13:17:00 -
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The ragenought that is going to happen when CCP puts up its nerf thread is going to be so much fun. |

BadAssMcKill
Love Squad
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Posted - 2013.09.22 14:31:00 -
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P much can guarantee that much like HMLs, the drake, the cane and other stuff CCP will forget they buffed a load of stuff and nerf the Cynabal and Mach far too hard http://i.imgur.com/6j6cIZE.gif-á |
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