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CCP Habakuk
C C P C C P Alliance
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Posted - 2013.09.20 13:57:00 -
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Hi,
In the next hours we are running tests for automated account mirroring on Singularity. We cannot promise anything at this point. This tries to update your account data on Singularity with the latest changes on TQ. Anything on the characters (including skills) should not be affected. If you had a different password on Sisi then you might have to switch using the password from TQ.
Please reply here if you experience any new problems with your accounts there. For the case of sensitive information send me an EVE-mail (but please do not include passwords). CCP Habakuk | EVE Quality Assurance | Team Gridlock-á Bug reporting | Mass Testing |
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Rengerel en Distel
1926
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Posted - 2013.09.20 15:07:00 -
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Woot, now we're testing like it's 1999! Good luck and hope it goes well.
With the increase in shiptoasting, the Report timer needs to be shortened.
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Sable Moran
Moran Light Industries
232
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Posted - 2013.09.20 15:08:00 -
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CCP Habakuk wrote:This tries to update your account data
Can you expand on that a bit? What data should change? What should I keep looking at?
Then you say:
CCP Habakuk wrote:Anything on the characters (including skills) should not be affected.
So the changes that might or might not occur pertain to data that is not visible in-game or should I say in-character (as opposed to out of character). This data includes password, account expiry, payment method and similar. Did I get that right? Sable's Ammo Shop at Alentene V - Moon 4 - Duvolle Labs Factory. Hybrid charges, Projectile ammo, Missiles, Drones, Ships, Need'em? We have'em, at affordable prices. Pop in at our Ammo Shop in sunny Alentene. |
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CCP Habakuk
C C P C C P Alliance
733

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Posted - 2013.09.20 15:44:00 -
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Sable Moran wrote:CCP Habakuk wrote:This tries to update your account data Can you expand on that a bit? What data should change? What should I keep looking at? Then you say: CCP Habakuk wrote:Anything on the characters (including skills) should not be affected. So the changes that might or might not occur pertain to data that is not visible in-game or should I say in-character (as opposed to out of character). This data includes password, account expiry, payment method and similar. Did I get that right?
Correct, included are for example the password, status of the account (active, expired, banned, ...), expiry, and type of the account. New accounts and transferred characters will probably work - but I'm not 100% sure on those. CCP Habakuk | EVE Quality Assurance | Team Gridlock-á Bug reporting | Mass Testing |
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Hommycyde
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
0
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Posted - 2013.09.20 16:34:00 -
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Sounds good. people that are banned on tq should be banned on sisi too. |

Rengerel en Distel
1927
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Posted - 2013.09.20 17:54:00 -
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Is this at least a first step to having skills copied over automatically too? No clue why you guys fight it so much.
With the increase in shiptoasting, the Report timer needs to be shortened.
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GreenSeed
701
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Posted - 2013.09.20 20:10:00 -
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Thanks! |
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CCP Habakuk
C C P C C P Alliance
734

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Posted - 2013.09.20 21:09:00 -
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It seems like the first account mirror finished without bigger problems, but it looks like transferred characters were not covered by this. Please report here (or per EVE-mail) if you experience any problems.
Hommycyde wrote:Sounds good. people that are banned on tq should be banned on sisi too.  Indeed. This is a very nice side-effect. 
Quote:Is this at least a first step to having skills copied over automatically too? No clue why you guys fight it so much. This would need quite some developer time and I personally would prefer if this would be used in fixing bugs or new features for TQ. CCP Habakuk | EVE Quality Assurance | Team Gridlock-á Bug reporting | Mass Testing |
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Rengerel en Distel
1928
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Posted - 2013.09.20 21:42:00 -
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CCP Habakuk wrote:It seems like the first account mirror finished without bigger problems, but it looks like transferred characters were not covered by this. Please report here (or per EVE-mail) if you experience any problems. Hommycyde wrote:Sounds good. people that are banned on tq should be banned on sisi too.  Indeed. This is a very nice side-effect.  Quote:Is this at least a first step to having skills copied over automatically too? No clue why you guys fight it so much. This would need quite some developer time and I personally would prefer if this would be used in fixing bugs or for new features for TQ.
You obviously know more about how the player files are structured, but I find it hard to believe that copying over a portion of the file is somehow easier than the entire file. You're pulling some data from the file, copying it to SISI overwriting the SISI copy, but doing that with the entire file takes more developer time?
With the increase in shiptoasting, the Report timer needs to be shortened.
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CCP Habakuk
C C P C C P Alliance
734

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Posted - 2013.09.20 22:31:00 -
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Rengerel en Distel wrote:You obviously know more about how the player files are structured, but I find it hard to believe that copying over a portion of the file is somehow easier than the entire file. You're pulling some data from the file, copying it to SISI overwriting the SISI copy, but doing that with the entire file takes more developer time?
As far as I know we are actually re-playing the change-log in this case and are not copying the data 1 to 1 . CCP PrismX would know the details about this.
Copying everything is being done in a full mirror, which we will keep doing every few months. Copying only the skills would probably be quite messy - at least as far as I understand the data structure (but I'm not a DB programmer). CCP Habakuk | EVE Quality Assurance | Team Gridlock-á Bug reporting | Mass Testing |
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Jonny Copper
Obstergo Bitten.
10
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Posted - 2013.09.20 23:11:00 -
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I dont know much about this, but wouldn't it be possible to write a really really long script that would copy TQ, delete all POS's , remove sov, seed modules, etc. Then have that run every few months automatically making the job easier for you guys long term? |

Kora Ethereal
Dawn Gaming
10
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Posted - 2013.09.21 02:50:00 -
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Jonny Copper wrote:I dont know much about this, but wouldn't it be possible to write a really really long script that would copy TQ, delete all POS's , remove sov, seed modules, etc. Then have that run every few months automatically making the job easier for you guys long term?
Then once a few months CCP would experience downtime as the QA department murders the intranet and hardware bandwidth :P |

Tilly Delnero
Licorne Ventures Ltd.
31
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Posted - 2013.09.21 21:14:00 -
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Apologies if I'm being dense here, but does switching to an automated mirroring method mean Sisi will be mirrored more frequently, and if so is this going to make supercapital production on the test server impossible? |

Paul Megere
10th level Banzee U N K N O W N
1
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Posted - 2013.09.21 21:15:00 -
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i got now the acc on sisi, but with out of my character, so what now ? |

Jaiimez Skor
ElitistOps Pandemic Legion
80
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Posted - 2013.09.22 16:29:00 -
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CCP Habakuk wrote:Rengerel en Distel wrote:You obviously know more about how the player files are structured, but I find it hard to believe that copying over a portion of the file is somehow easier than the entire file. You're pulling some data from the file, copying it to SISI overwriting the SISI copy, but doing that with the entire file takes more developer time?
As far as I know we are actually re-playing the change-log in this case and are not copying the data 1 to 1 . CCP PrismX would know the details about this. Copying everything is being done in a full mirror, which we will keep doing every few months. Copying only the skills would probably be quite messy - at least as far as I understand the data structure (but I'm not a DB programmer).
I'm slightly curious, what are the reasons for doing this atall, I cannot see how people who are inactive on TQ having their accounts inactive on Sisi really does to benefit the testing of future releases, the only reason I can think of is to force those who don't sub their TQ accounts, and just play Sisi to be forced into paying their subscriptions again. I may be wrong and if I am please feel free I would love to know the actual reason for this, but atleast to me, just looks like it's nothing more than a moneygrab.
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Theodora Humphrey
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
1
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Posted - 2013.09.22 17:31:00 -
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What will be the frequency of these incremental mirrors. And are there plans to fix the handling of transferred chars. |

Ni Kunni197
The Corpse Bucket
0
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Posted - 2013.09.22 18:26:00 -
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If you didnt reactive me from the acounts thread its working for accounts that time out and then resub on TQ. |

Leviitiicus Industries
Black Lagoon Co
0
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Posted - 2013.09.23 02:58:00 -
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All my accounts are activated but no toons are showing up on my accounts |
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CCP Habakuk
C C P C C P Alliance
735

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Posted - 2013.09.23 09:54:00 -
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Jonny Copper wrote:I dont know much about this, but wouldn't it be possible to write a really really long script that would copy TQ, delete all POS's , remove sov, seed modules, etc. Then have that run every few months automatically making the job easier for you guys long term?
What you are describing is basically a full mirror. Most things for mirrors are scripted, but not everything. And yes, it is a quite heavy on our infrastructure (which is one of the reasons for keeping them seldom).
Tilly Delnero wrote:Apologies if I'm being dense here, but does switching to an automated mirroring method mean Sisi will be mirrored more frequently, and if so is this going to make supercapital production on the test server impossible?
Full mirrors might be slightly less frequent, if the automated account mirroring works as expected. But we will still be doing full mirrors every few months.
Paul Megere wrote:i got now the acc on sisi, but with out of my character, so what now ?
Leviitiicus Industries wrote:All my accounts are activated but no toons are showing up on my accounts Yeah, only the account itself is copied - without your characters. Feel free to create new characters on Singularity. We understand, that this is not perfect, but it should be at least better than having no account at all.
Theodora Humphrey wrote:What will be the frequency of these incremental mirrors. And are there plans to fix the handling of transferred chars. Frequency: We are looking into running this once per day, but this is not decided so far. Character transfers: Unknown so far. I don't know if this would only need a small fix or if this would be something bigger. CCP Habakuk | EVE Quality Assurance | Team Gridlock-á Bug reporting | Mass Testing |
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Tikitina
Imperial Academy Amarr Empire
13
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Posted - 2013.09.23 15:39:00 -
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Rengerel en Distel wrote:Is this at least a first step to having skills copied over automatically too? No clue why you guys fight it so much.
Not everyone wants their skills on Sisi automatically replaced with their skills on TQ, especially those who recently took part in mass tests.
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Tilly Delnero
Licorne Ventures Ltd.
31
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Posted - 2013.09.23 16:05:00 -
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CCP Habakuk wrote:Full mirrors might be slightly less frequent, if the automated account mirroring works as expected. But we will still be doing full mirrors every few months. Excellent, thanks for the clarification. I was panicking a bit there! |

Leviitiicus Industries
Black Lagoon Co
0
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Posted - 2013.09.23 20:30:00 -
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This is ********, for months on months I pleaded for a mirror and even came to terms with the fact no one cared and you do it when you want. So I finally stopped checking on the server and gave up then you finally activate my accounts with no toons? Then you tell me its ok because i can create one? I come on the test server to test stuff not go through the painstaking process of evolving a useless toon. WTH
This is just bad after all the money dumped into this game..
CCP Habakuk wrote:Jonny Copper wrote:I dont know much about this, but wouldn't it be possible to write a really really long script that would copy TQ, delete all POS's , remove sov, seed modules, etc. Then have that run every few months automatically making the job easier for you guys long term? [quote=Leviitiicus Industries]All my accounts are activated but no toons are showing up on my accounts Yeah, only the account itself is copied - without your characters. Feel free to create new characters on Singularity. We understand, that this is not perfect, but it should be at least better than having no account at all.
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Tilly Delnero
Licorne Ventures Ltd.
31
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Posted - 2013.09.23 23:55:00 -
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Leviitiicus Industries wrote:This is just bad after all the money dumped into this game.. I can understand your frustration, but to be fair access to the test servers isn't a right granted by our subscriptions. The test servers don't provide self-monetisation either, so any resources allocated to their synchronisation and maintenance will always be minimal outside of the dedicated mass-testing of specific sets of issues.
For what it's worth, I think CCP Habakuk and the volunteers do a great job with limited resources and in the face of a horde of immature idiots who think causing havoc on the test servers is the height of hilarity (off-topic, please institute permanent bans pretty pretty please). While I might disagree with a lot of the decisions and directions CCP and the CSM take, the test server guys are pure gold in my book. /rant
I do hope this account automation includes characters in the future though. |

Rengerel en Distel
1930
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Posted - 2013.09.24 00:39:00 -
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Tikitina wrote:Rengerel en Distel wrote:Is this at least a first step to having skills copied over automatically too? No clue why you guys fight it so much.
Not everyone wants their skills on Sisi automatically replaced with their skills on TQ, especially those who recently took part in mass tests.
True, so maybe something like /testcopy to put your character in a queue that gets transferred over at DT. I just don't understand how that takes a Dev more than 15 minutes to set up, but I don't have any knowledge of how they store their files.
With the increase in shiptoasting, the Report timer needs to be shortened.
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Kora Ethereal
Dawn Gaming
10
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Posted - 2013.09.24 06:59:00 -
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Rengerel en Distel wrote:Tikitina wrote:Rengerel en Distel wrote:Is this at least a first step to having skills copied over automatically too? No clue why you guys fight it so much.
Not everyone wants their skills on Sisi automatically replaced with their skills on TQ, especially those who recently took part in mass tests. True, so maybe something like /testcopy to put your character in a queue that gets transferred over at DT. I just don't understand how that takes a Dev more than 15 minutes to set up, but I don't have any knowledge of how they store their files.
According to a previous post, it's not copypasta, they instead replay your character history to generate your toon. I'd imagine using an entire changelog takes a bit of time. |

Romana Erebus
Deep Core Mining Inc. Caldari State
4
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Posted - 2013.09.25 19:51:00 -
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This thread should have never had the word "mirror" in it ever. Should have been name automated account updates or something.  |

D Kreone
Rules of Acquisition Acquisition Of Empire
4
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Posted - 2013.09.26 04:08:00 -
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How long until our accounts that we can log in to, but have no characters to select from get fixed/added? Is it possible to grant those accounts with some free SP in the meantime so we can continue to TEST!!! |

Kora Ethereal
Dawn Gaming
11
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Posted - 2013.09.26 15:56:00 -
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D Kreone wrote:How long until our accounts that we can log in to, but have no characters to select from get fixed/added? Is it possible to grant those accounts with some free SP in the meantime so we can continue to TEST!!!
As stated before, you can connect and create an toon, but you'll probably have to wait for a full mirror. Remember Acess at all is a privilege, don't expect all the bells and whistles you get from TQ. |

Leviitiicus Industries
Black Lagoon Co
1
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Posted - 2013.09.26 18:14:00 -
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Kora Ethereal wrote:D Kreone wrote:How long until our accounts that we can log in to, but have no characters to select from get fixed/added? Is it possible to grant those accounts with some free SP in the meantime so we can continue to TEST!!! As stated before, you can connect and create an toon, but you'll probably have to wait for a full mirror. Remember Acess at all is a privilege, don't expect all the bells and whistles you get from TQ.
I really do get that it is just a test server but we also pay to get on it in a sense because technically you can't get mirrored on or added unless you pay membership. Not only is it that we pay. They want us to test things on the server but they don't give any support whatsoever other than the very little on the forums. To top it all off they activate a lot of peoples accounts but with no characters, most of us don't have the time to rank up another toon that we will never use in real applications. So we are stuck with no way to truly test anything. It's just frustrating. To top it all off I am losing training time as well as testing time. Maybe one day they will get things straight. |

Kora Ethereal
Dawn Gaming
11
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Posted - 2013.09.26 23:49:00 -
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Leviitiicus Industries wrote:Kora Ethereal wrote:D Kreone wrote:How long until our accounts that we can log in to, but have no characters to select from get fixed/added? Is it possible to grant those accounts with some free SP in the meantime so we can continue to TEST!!! As stated before, you can connect and create an toon, but you'll probably have to wait for a full mirror. Remember Acess at all is a privilege, don't expect all the bells and whistles you get from TQ. I really do get that it is just a test server but we also pay to get on it in a sense because technically you can't get mirrored on or added unless you pay membership. Not only is it that we pay. They want us to test things on the server but they don't give any support whatsoever other than the very little on the forums. To top it all off they activate a lot of peoples accounts but with no characters, most of us don't have the time to rank up another toon that we will never use in real applications. So we are stuck with no way to truly test anything. It's just frustrating. To top it all off I am losing training time as well as testing time. Maybe one day they will get things straight.
You don't pay for it at all, it's more of a bonus to membership. This is a development server of all things too, technically they're not obligated to give us access to anything but TQ and only TQ, but you know what, they have API's, the test server, and the forums up, at their expense for us. Also there is no support because you don't pay for it.
TL:DR You're not entitled to anything but TQ and support for TQ. SiSi is just a free cookie, don't got asking the baker how the hell to eat it. |

Leviitiicus Industries
Black Lagoon Co
1
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Posted - 2013.09.27 01:09:00 -
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Kora Ethereal wrote:Leviitiicus Industries wrote:Kora Ethereal wrote:D Kreone wrote:How long until our accounts that we can log in to, but have no characters to select from get fixed/added? Is it possible to grant those accounts with some free SP in the meantime so we can continue to TEST!!! As stated before, you can connect and create an toon, but you'll probably have to wait for a full mirror. Remember Acess at all is a privilege, don't expect all the bells and whistles you get from TQ. I really do get that it is just a test server but we also pay to get on it in a sense because technically you can't get mirrored on or added unless you pay membership. Not only is it that we pay. They want us to test things on the server but they don't give any support whatsoever other than the very little on the forums. To top it all off they activate a lot of peoples accounts but with no characters, most of us don't have the time to rank up another toon that we will never use in real applications. So we are stuck with no way to truly test anything. It's just frustrating. To top it all off I am losing training time as well as testing time. Maybe one day they will get things straight. You don't pay for it at all, it's more of a bonus to membership. This is a development server of all things too, technically they're not obligated to give us access to anything but TQ and only TQ, but you know what, they have API's, the test server, and the forums up, at their expense for us. Also there is no support because you don't pay for it. TL:DR You're not entitled to anything but TQ and support for TQ. SiSi is just a free cookie, don't got asking the baker how the hell to eat it.
If you stop paying for membership you will eventually be denied access to the test server, therefore you do in reality pay for it. I agree it is not necessarily guaranteed but to offer no support to us even when they in-return ask for us to test and provide feed back is not a fair deal. Then the best they can tell us is to create a toon on there like that makes it all better. That makes it pointless, We can not test anything with no toon skilled up to actually test items and such. It's a situation in which they want us to work for them for our money and then in-return provide no support. A slap in the face in certain ways. |

Kora Ethereal
Dawn Gaming
11
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Posted - 2013.09.27 12:25:00 -
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Leviitiicus Industries wrote:Kora Ethereal wrote:Leviitiicus Industries wrote:Kora Ethereal wrote:D Kreone wrote:~~~ Wall of Text ~~~ ~~~ Wall of Text ~~~ ~~~ Wall of Text ~~~ ~~~ Wall of Text ~~~ ~~~ Wall of Text ~~~
The incentive for testing has always been free un-allocated sp for masstesting, and letting us try out the new things before they hit the main server. (I'm flying around in a carrier but I've barely got Advanced Space command on TQ.)
Sure Dev's get paid w/ our subscription bucks, but this server's not and never will be the server you paid for, it's 100% optional/bonus/free to paid subscribers (There is no reason, what so ever, for a business to allow someone not paying for their services to access services they offer to their "members" free of charge.). Also technically a "Real" mirror hasn't taken place, so they just ask/expect that you create a toon and use it for a month (rumors say it's probably sooner). Technically NO mirror has taken place at all, but now that you have the ability to log in suddenly, but find yourself without toons, you're mad. Hell I understand that, you've been waiting and waiting, but now that you have almost what you want but it's not complete you're mad.
Just wait awhile, A full mirror will come SoonGäó. Until then, stop trying to make combustible lemons, and just sip on that lemonade. |

Leviitiicus Industries
Black Lagoon Co
1
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Posted - 2013.09.27 15:21:00 -
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The incentive for testing has always been free un-allocated sp for masstesting, and letting us try out the new things before they hit the main server. (I'm flying around in a carrier but I've barely got Advanced Space command on TQ.)
Sure Dev's get paid w/ our subscription bucks, but this server's not and never will be the server you paid for, it's 100% optional/bonus/free to paid subscribers (There is no reason, what so ever, for a business to allow someone not paying for their services to access services they offer to their "members" free of charge.). Also technically a "Real" mirror hasn't taken place, so they just ask/expect that you create a toon and use it for a month (rumors say it's probably sooner). Technically NO mirror has taken place at all, but now that you have the ability to log in suddenly, but find yourself without toons, you're mad. Hell I understand that, you've been waiting and waiting, but now that you have almost what you want but it's not complete you're mad.
Just wait awhile, A full mirror will come SoonGäó. Until then, stop trying to make combustible lemons, and just sip on that lemonade.[/quote]
The fact remains they want us to test things and give all this feedback on the game but there is no support for us for doing it and we pay. I just don't think it should be months. It will be 4 months on the 10th of October. I came to terms with waiting before they did this. The thing is they obviously put a lot of time into this forgetting about an actual mirror. |

Midgen
Viziam Amarr Empire
0
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Posted - 2013.09.29 02:03:00 -
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not really sure where the "activate my toon on test server" thread is so ;p could CCP please activate this pilot Midgen on the test server? PLEASE???? :)  |

Steve Martien
Saiyan Inc
1
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Posted - 2013.09.29 10:50:00 -
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my account has been activated but i cant see my characters from tranquility! maybe something went wrong with the mirror? grtz |

Leviitiicus Industries
Black Lagoon Co
1
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Posted - 2013.09.29 16:51:00 -
[36] - Quote
There was no mirror, instead of spending time wisely and actually doing a mirror they did an automatic mirror test which merely mirrored everyone's account on there but without any toons, you toons will only arrive in there when they do an actual full mirror. |

Kora Ethereal
Dawn Gaming
12
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Posted - 2013.09.29 22:03:00 -
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Leviitiicus Industries wrote:There was no mirror, instead of spending time wisely and actually doing a mirror they did an automatic mirror test which merely mirrored everyone's account on there but without any toons, you toons will only arrive in there when they do an actual full mirror.
And actual full mirrors will only come when they are Needed by CCP, support is provided during and after masstests. |

erniqgfi
The Knights Who Formerly said Ni Circle-Of-Two
0
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Posted - 2013.09.30 21:04:00 -
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hey :) now we've been shown the new expansion 'Rubicon' will EVE singularity have a full mirror update anytime soon? |

Kora Ethereal
Dawn Gaming
12
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Posted - 2013.09.30 21:22:00 -
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erniqgfi wrote:hey :) now we've been shown the new expansion 'Rubicon' will EVE singularity have a full mirror update anytime soon?
Yup, rumor-mill is in full production, and it's currently saying around next week (WARNING: CONSUME WITH GRAIN OF SALT)
I wouldn't take it as scripture, but hey, at least it's something. |

erniqgfi
The Knights Who Formerly said Ni Circle-Of-Two
0
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Posted - 2013.10.01 09:53:00 -
[40] - Quote
Thank you Kora Ethereal for your help :) |

jackyspiro
Caldari Provisions Caldari State
0
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Posted - 2013.10.01 14:03:00 -
[41] - Quote
ok so apperantly the auto activation didnt work on the singularity so im asking for a manual reactivation and i also just recently paid with plex to activate this account |
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CCP Habakuk
C C P C C P Alliance
736

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Posted - 2013.10.01 14:39:00 -
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jackyspiro wrote:ok so apperantly the auto activation didnt work on the singularity so im asking for a manual reactivation and i also just recently paid with plex to activate this account
Please try it now, you account is already active as far as I can see. Accounts are being reactivated on Singularity 12 - 36 hours after they were reactivated on Tranquility.
Steve Martien wrote:my account has been activated but i cant see my characters from tranquility! maybe something went wrong with the mirror? grtz Only accounts are mirrored by the automatic mirror - you will need to wait for the next full mirror for your characters.
Midgen wrote:not really sure where the "activate my toon on test server" thread is so ;p could CCP please activate this pilot Midgen on the test server? PLEASE???? :)  Your account is also active.
CCP Habakuk | EVE Quality Assurance | Team Gridlock-á Bug reporting | Mass Testing |
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Neijas
State War Academy Caldari State
1
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Posted - 2013.10.01 15:34:00 -
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CCP Habakuk wrote:Steve Martien wrote:my account has been activated but i cant see my characters from tranquility! maybe something went wrong with the mirror? grtz Only accounts are mirrored by the automatic mirror - you will need to wait for the next full mirror for your characters.
So when will that happen? I'm already waiting for a full mirror for 2-3 months. There used to be a forum thread that said it would be full mirrored Septemberish. Eventho my accounts are activated one is missing all the characters. So any approx. month when the next mirror will happen? |

Leviitiicus Industries
Black Lagoon Co The Explicit Alliance
1
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Posted - 2013.10.01 16:22:00 -
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Neijas wrote:CCP Habakuk wrote:Steve Martien wrote:my account has been activated but i cant see my characters from tranquility! maybe something went wrong with the mirror? grtz Only accounts are mirrored by the automatic mirror - you will need to wait for the next full mirror for your characters. So when will that happen? I'm already waiting for a full mirror for 2-3 months. There used to be a forum thread that said it would be full mirrored Septemberish. Eventho my accounts are activated one is missing all the characters. So any approx. month when the next mirror will happen?
Honestly, probably this month sometime, if not this month definitely early November because of the new expansion coming |

Socomar
Quantum Corp Rebel Alliance of New Eden
13
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Posted - 2013.10.01 21:16:00 -
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i dont know how long it takes to get activated but right now i need activated. |

Socott
Quantum Corp Rebel Alliance of New Eden
5
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Posted - 2013.10.01 21:18:00 -
[46] - Quote
i dont know how long it takes to get activated but right now i need activated. |

OmarNu Lakshmit
UNION CONFIRMED
0
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Posted - 2013.10.02 12:59:00 -
[47] - Quote
Hi!
Tried log this account to SiSI today - fail. psw & login same on TQ and SiSi. Account on TQ reactivaded this monday. Is there any chances to get it ractivated on SiSi too? |
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CCP Habakuk
C C P C C P Alliance
736

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Posted - 2013.10.02 13:02:00 -
[48] - Quote
OmarNu Lakshmit wrote:Hi!
Tried log this account to SiSI today - fail. psw & login same on TQ and SiSi. Account on TQ reactivaded this monday. Is there any chances to get it ractivated on SiSi too?
Wow, you logged in 10 minutes too early. Please try it again, the account is now active. CCP Habakuk | EVE Quality Assurance | Team Gridlock-á Bug reporting | Mass Testing |
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OmarNu Lakshmit
UNION CONFIRMED
0
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Posted - 2013.10.02 13:08:00 -
[49] - Quote
o7 CCP Habakuk - now all fine =)) even SiSi alt at his place, lol =)))) |

Caviar Liberta
Moira. Villore Accords
182
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Posted - 2013.10.02 23:50:00 -
[50] - Quote
Tikitina wrote:Rengerel en Distel wrote:Is this at least a first step to having skills copied over automatically too? No clue why you guys fight it so much.
Not everyone wants their skills on Sisi automatically replaced with their skills on TQ, especially those who recently took part in mass tests.
That shouldn't be a problem if they have it setup something like this.
If TQ Skill {Skill Level} > Sisi Skill {Skill level} when TQ {Skill level} <5 then Sisi Skill {Skill Level}=TQ Skill {Skill Level}
This way it will only update any skills where the TQ skill level is greater than the skill level of the skill on Sisi.
And also copy any new skills you might have learned on the TQ sever but not on the Sisi server. Also ignoring any skills you have on Sisi but don't have on TQ. |

StarEater9000
Liberation Army
0
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Posted - 2013.10.03 17:27:00 -
[51] - Quote
I am confused about the mirror, it was said the update is going to come to sisi on monday the 7th but then he said the tq mirror is in the next too weeks? So is the mirror later or on the 7th? |

Yuriy Tsuruomo
State War Academy Caldari State
0
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Posted - 2013.10.04 08:27:00 -
[52] - Quote
CCP Habakuk You can activate me on Singularity please |

Mocam
EVE University Ivy League
320
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Posted - 2013.10.07 05:24:00 -
[53] - Quote
I think I found my answer on why just account info.
http://community.eveonline.com/news/dev-blogs/license-to-kill-certificate-overhaul/
The certs stuff is massively more than just certificates and will need API testing. API testing means account info needs to be accurate. Reformatting of middle-data or back-end to match API calls means you may not want to have that data constantly changing via mirrors but the account info? Kind of important for API stuff. |

Nicholass Charante
The Nation of the Forgotten
0
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Posted - 2013.10.09 21:31:00 -
[54] - Quote
Tried to log into singularity just now, it says "invalid username / password", it works fine on TQ. Any help? |

Del Mei
Origin. Black Legion.
0
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Posted - 2013.10.11 10:03:00 -
[55] - Quote
12h+ after I reactivate account on TQ and nothing happened, obviously your script not working, can you please reactivate my account on sisi ? |

Matthew97
Dat Tax
216
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Posted - 2013.10.11 11:03:00 -
[56] - Quote
Del Mei wrote:12h+ after I reactivate account on TQ and nothing happened, obviously your script not working, can you please reactivate my account on sisi ?
I'd suggest reading again before starting with the "obviously yadayadada" stuff.
It clearly states "In the next hours we are running tests for automated account mirroring on Singularity".
Obviously this would imply that the script is not going to be running 24/7 and may not even be deployed if its deemed as not being useful enough vs Resource usage.
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Gargoyle Sheppard
Insurgent New Eden Tribe RAZOR Alliance
0
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Posted - 2013.10.11 21:18:00 -
[57] - Quote
i've just downloaded singularity right now, but my main character is not still available in the login screen. is it possible to have a mirror right now for playing my main in this account? Thx. |

D Kreone
Rules of Acquisition Acquisition Of Empire
4
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Posted - 2013.10.12 11:36:00 -
[58] - Quote
So what about the people with New Accounts with new Characters that want to test the new features before next patch? |

Vrenth
EVE Corporation 987654321-POP The Marmite Collective
68
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Posted - 2013.10.12 19:01:00 -
[59] - Quote
Subbed this month with a plex and my sisi account is now disabled. Please fix, I was being fairly involved in testing. |

dark Vova
Fire Angels
0
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Posted - 2013.10.13 06:34:00 -
[60] - Quote
I can access the account and see the characters but they do not run.
CCP Habakuk You can activate me on Singularity, please |

Commander Andrey
Technology Acquisition Collective LEGIO ASTARTES ARCANUM
0
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Posted - 2013.10.13 11:13:00 -
[61] - Quote
I can't see my caracter on the singularity server can you transfer it ? |

Winterbliss
Deep Core Mining Inc. Caldari State
27
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Posted - 2013.10.17 12:32:00 -
[62] - Quote
Re-activation for me please  |

V-67-BRAVO Erquilenne
Federal Defense Union Gallente Federation
0
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Posted - 2013.10.19 10:22:00 -
[63] - Quote
i just lost over 70 days worth of skill points about 20mil through the new mirror ?? could i reimbursed for my loss of skill points? |

Tiaick
Viziam Amarr Empire
1
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Posted - 2013.10.19 10:36:00 -
[64] - Quote
Can't login on sisi too..
Please activate me  |

Allandri
Liandri Industrial Liandri Covenant
59
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Posted - 2013.10.19 10:42:00 -
[65] - Quote
V-67-BRAVO Erquilenne wrote:i just lost over 70 days worth of skill points about 20mil through the new mirror ??  could i reimbursed for my loss of skill points?
lol |

Teal'c Jaffad
Fweddit I Whip My Slaves Back and Forth
0
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Posted - 2013.10.19 11:10:00 -
[66] - Quote
Turns out my account was inactive just when mirror was being created, and I still can't login on Singularity. I'm hoping that this new system will reactivate it soon but I'll leave this here just in case it doesn't happen. |

BadMan Fringe
3L 'N' Co Cleaning Galaxy
0
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Posted - 2013.10.24 17:27:00 -
[67] - Quote
I need a reactivation pls CCP Habakuk
FORGIVE YOUR ENEMIES BUT NEVER FORGET THEIR NAMES. |

Tiaick
Viziam Amarr Empire
1
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Posted - 2013.10.24 18:39:00 -
[68] - Quote
Me too Hababuk :( |

Alexey Titarenko
The 2nd Foundation SOLAR WING
6
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Posted - 2013.10.30 08:45:00 -
[69] - Quote
So, guys, I am trying to go in Sisi, but I have a problem - my account on Singularity expired. What I can do?
Maybe some re-activation can be made by CCP Hababuk?) |

gogeta23
DNS Spectre
0
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Posted - 2013.11.09 02:35:00 -
[70] - Quote
can someone reactivate me plz.... |

Strawbs
State Protectorate Caldari State
0
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Posted - 2013.11.09 14:19:00 -
[71] - Quote
Can I get an activation on this account? missed the mirror by one day and the script doesnt seem to be working |

Tilly Delnero
Licorne Ventures Ltd.
86
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Posted - 2013.11.09 21:55:00 -
[72] - Quote
Does anyone know if the automated account mirroring prevents access to the test server if the main TQ account is cancelled, or is that only a full mirror issue as before? |

HagNasty
Tetragorn SpaceMonkey's Alliance
1
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Posted - 2013.11.10 00:06:00 -
[73] - Quote
Same here. Need an activation please.
EDIT: Nevermind. I was logging in with the wrong account :p |
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