From what I understand from the Exploit Warning, you aren't breaking any rules UNLESS you are trying to hide in a POS and have your drones attack your friend's target by using assist. If you are outside of a POS then you have nothing to worry about. It just has to do with the whole 'being able to attack without any risk to you' thing.

you don't matter that much to us, quite honestly

Yet you responded not once but twice.

Yet you responded not once but twice.

yeah i expended my energy making two posts

yeah i expended my energy making two posts

and you failed 3rd time: that was your 3rd post.

so much care about someone who doesn't matter isn't it?

To be fair, he's a goon. Posting is part of his autonomous functions.

i'm just laughing at the idea that anything a CFC member says or does is indicative of some policy of ours

it's as if we have the ability to exert that much control over 35k people, you give us way too much credit

wait, you can't?


OMFG THE WORLD IS A LIE!

yes some random SMA guy telling you something represents a "sudden push by the CFC"

Using "the law" and threat of the law as one's personal weapon. Bet the SMA puke is an American.

Pshh, the Americans use their personal weapons as their personal weapons. Ever wondered why they despise anyone even glancing funny at the second amendment?

I was helping a friend of mine who happens to be fairly new to the game. While in a mission in high sec a Space Monkey Alliance member probbed us out and had come in to salvage or steal I assume. After a coupe minutes he started whining in local that we were using a drone exploit. I had my light drones assigned to my friends Condor so he could work on the small rats while I focused on the battleship new with my cruise missiles.

He kept linking the news item from CCP in reguards to the POS and drone assign incident and telling everyone to petition us for exploiting. Despite my efforts to inform my friend the SMA guy was wrong, this was the third incident of a CFC member going on in local chat claiming someone was exploiting by simply assisting their drones to a fleet member, despite there not being a POS involved.

Why is the CFC members running around trying to scare other players with false information? Unfortunately my friend is too scared to want to use drone assign now because he is afraid of being banned. Will there be more features from the game CFC will want removed?

i'm just laughing at the idea that anything a CFC member says or does is indicative of some policy of ours

it's as if we have the ability to exert that much control over 35k people, you give us way too much credit

He should have spouted in local with a npc alt and be a true pubbie then.

Not some ******** shitlord.

Pshh, the Americans use their personal weapons as their personal weapons. Ever wondered why they despise anyone even glancing funny at the second amendment?

yeah i expended my energy making two posts

People who pick up a gun or a knife and mug somebody are showing more anatomy than someone who robs people from behind a voting booth curtain and lets the state do the robbing for them (only then it appears legal because the robbers have uniforms and badges).

Hence using the law as one's own personal weapon.

Where you think the use of actual real weaponry is involved, I am not sure.

BTW we love the British and welcome everything from them except their cuisine. They make great pets.

I was helping a friend of mine who happens to be fairly new to the game. While in a mission in high sec a Space Monkey Alliance member probbed us out and had come in to salvage or steal I assume. After a coupe minutes he started whining in local that we were using a drone exploit. I had my light drones assigned to my friends Condor so he could work on the small rats while I focused on the battleship new with my cruise missiles.

He kept linking the news item from CCP in reguards to the POS and drone assign incident and telling everyone to petition us for exploiting. Despite my efforts to inform my friend the SMA guy was wrong, this was the third incident of a CFC member going on in local chat claiming someone was exploiting by simply assisting their drones to a fleet member, despite there not being a POS involved.

Why is the CFC members running around trying to scare other players with false information? Unfortunately my friend is too scared to want to use drone assign now because he is afraid of being banned. Will there be more features from the game CFC will want removed?

Yet you responded not once but twice.

Not since some of them realized that tinfoil hats actually do block Goon mind control probes.

WTS tinfoil hats 500m

I was helping a friend of mine who happens to be fairly new to the game. While in a mission in high sec a Space Monkey Alliance member probbed us out and had come in to salvage or steal I assume. After a coupe minutes he started whining in local that we were using a drone exploit. I had my light drones assigned to my friends Condor so he could work on the small rats while I focused on the battleship new with my cruise missiles.

He kept linking the news item from CCP in reguards to the POS and drone assign incident and telling everyone to petition us for exploiting. Despite my efforts to inform my friend the SMA guy was wrong, this was the third incident of a CFC member going on in local chat claiming someone was exploiting by simply assisting their drones to a fleet member, despite there not being a POS involved.

Why is the CFC members running around trying to scare other players with false information? Unfortunately my friend is too scared to want to use drone assign now because he is afraid of being banned. Will there be more features from the game CFC will want removed?

i'm just laughing at the idea that anything a CFC member says or does is indicative of some policy of ours

it's as if we have the ability to exert that much control over 35k people, you give us way too much credit

thats how it works for minorities in the real world... one person is a jerk and all of sudden the entire race is...

welcome to logical fallacy.

thats how it works for minorities in the real world... one person is a jerk and all of sudden the entire race is...

welcome to logical fallacy.

He is wrong - unless you are at a POS. Period.

Yet one could say that CFC has quite the solid grasp upon its membership's public opinion.

Look at how they managed to switch their position from "renting is BOB, BOB is bad, renting is bad"" to all-out serflording in a couple months.

Wasn't "test friends please ignore" before that?

I was helping a friend of mine who happens to be fairly new to the game. While in a mission in high sec a Space Monkey Alliance member probbed us out and had come in to salvage or steal I assume. After a coupe minutes he started whining in local that we were using a drone exploit. I had my light drones assigned to my friends Condor so he could work on the small rats while I focused on the battleship new with my cruise missiles.

He kept linking the news item from CCP in reguards to the POS and drone assign incident and telling everyone to petition us for exploiting. Despite my efforts to inform my friend the SMA guy was wrong, this was the third incident of a CFC member going on in local chat claiming someone was exploiting by simply assisting their drones to a fleet member, despite there not being a POS involved.

Why is the CFC members running around trying to scare other players with false information? Unfortunately my friend is too scared to want to use drone assign now because he is afraid of being banned. Will there be more features from the game CFC will want removed?

+1 for posting on an npc alt.

Yet one could say that CFC has quite the solid grasp upon its membership's public opinion.

Look at how they managed to switch their position from "renting is BOB, BOB is bad, renting is bad"" to all-out serflording in a couple months.

What does that have to do with anything?

No, people were angry about it and we left a thread up for them to scream bloody murder about the evils of becoming serflords. Because, apparently, goons have always had a soft spot for pubbies and would never do anything like collect money from them for the privilege of ratting in our space.

i'm just laughing at the idea that anything a CFC member says or does is indicative of some policy of ours

it's as if we have the ability to exert that much control over 35k people, you give us way too much credit

No, people were angry about it and we left a thread up for them to scream bloody murder about the evils of becoming serflords. Because, apparently, goons have always had a soft spot for pubbies and would never do anything like collect money from them for the privilege of ratting in our space.

When did CFC become rules lawyering gay babies?

It's always funny that people never seem to see it that way.

It means that anything he posts is likely nonsense, much like 99.9% of NPC alt posts on the forums.

Any time Goons find a cool trick to use, such as grid-fu, FW LP store or massive drone assist salvos, they will abuse the mechanic until other people start using it against them. At this point they will highlight whatever mechanic they were abusing so that others can't use that same mechanic.

Part of the current campaign is to stop other fleets using assisted sentry drones against Goon interests, since drone assist + ISBoxer provides a huge competitive advantage.

The only question in my mind is whether Goons will end up campaigning against keystroke broadcasting as provided by ISBoxer and (modified) Synergy, or whether that mechanical advantage is so vital to their ability to play the game while frustrated-drunk that they will actively campaign against people who want keystroke broadcasting banned.

If I wore a swastika and claimed to be part of the SS, you'd hold me accountable for their actions.

You choose to wear the colors of a group whose higher ups are made up of largely the most shameful and pathetic personalities the internet has to offer.

If you do not like being judged as a group, leave the group.

I've seen this pattern before.

Mechanic that CFC doesn't use.
CFC: "This mechanic is bad."
Others: "You just want it nerfed because it's being used against you!"

Mechanic that CFC uses.
CFC: "This mechanic is bad."
Others: "You just want it nerfed so that others can't use it!"

Pubbie logic.

i'm sorry about the goon who ganked your hulk but that doesn't make us remotely comparable to members of a defunct, formerly prominent German political party whose name I can't mention because of the word filter

Yet one could say that CFC has quite the solid grasp upon its membership's public opinion.

Look at how they managed to switch their position from "renting is BOB, BOB is bad, renting is bad"" to all-out serflording in a couple months.

The universe just isn't the same in 2013 as it was in 2006. The CFC were part of a quasi campaign for nullsec being redefined from what it was (regions valued by towers), to what it is today, regions being valued by number of characters working in it. Instead of the CFC towering vale for isk, they are populating it.

That probably isn't really that similar to what BoB did. I don't remember them being much for detail - ie they were constellation kinds of people not systems kind of people, more arbiter than expander.

Note that in the population model, its even possible for CCP to expand nullsec, and for the majority of the playerbase to migrate to it. None of that made sense in the empty cardboard regions propped up by towers model.

Note that in the population model, its even possible for CCP to expand nullsec

Why are you defending rental models, they are supposed to be alien and ungoony

If I wore a swastika and claimed to be part of the SS, you'd hold me accountable for their actions.

You choose to wear the colors of a group whose higher ups are made up of largely the most shameful and pathetic personalities the internet has to offer.

If you do not like being judged as a group, leave the group.

or have never actually been on the internet to think that Goons are the worst the internet has to offer.

I was helping a friend of mine who happens to be fairly new to the game. While in a mission in high sec a Space Monkey Alliance member probbed us out and had come in to salvage or steal I assume. After a coupe minutes he started whining in local that we were using a drone exploit. I had my light drones assigned to my friends Condor so he could work on the small rats while I focused on the battleship new with my cruise missiles.

He kept linking the news item from CCP in reguards to the POS and drone assign incident and telling everyone to petition us for exploiting. Despite my efforts to inform my friend the SMA guy was wrong, this was the third incident of a CFC member going on in local chat claiming someone was exploiting by simply assisting their drones to a fleet member, despite there not being a POS involved.

Why is the CFC members running around trying to scare other players with false information? Unfortunately my friend is too scared to want to use drone assign now because he is afraid of being banned. Will there be more features from the game CFC will want removed?

I know we are not exploiting. My question is why the sudden push by CFC to tell other players if they drone assist at all, they are exploiting?

I was helping a friend of mine who happens to be fairly new to the game. While in a mission in high sec a Space Monkey Alliance member probbed us out and had come in to salvage or steal I assume. After a coupe minutes he started whining in local that we were using a drone exploit. I had my light drones assigned to my friends Condor so he could work on the small rats while I focused on the battleship new with my cruise missiles.

He kept linking the news item from CCP in reguards to the POS and drone assign incident and telling everyone to petition us for exploiting. Despite my efforts to inform my friend the SMA guy was wrong, this was the third incident of a CFC member going on in local chat claiming someone was exploiting by simply assisting their drones to a fleet member, despite there not being a POS involved.

Why is the CFC members running around trying to scare other players with false information? Unfortunately my friend is too scared to want to use drone assign now because he is afraid of being banned. Will there be more features from the game CFC will want removed?

Yet you responded not once but twice.

Name and shame. We all deserve to know who this person was.

Petition the ******** for being too stupid to comprehend words combined into a context.

might as well just petition that whole alliance then.

So you know something:

"a new player"
"npc corp alt"
"goons are bad"
"issue people are discussing that is significant because goons are bad"
"one of your people did a bad thing"
"you are bad"

... you fell for a troll

Why is the CFC members running around trying to scare other players with false information?

Unfortunately my friend is too scared to want to use drone assign now because he is afraid of being banned.

Its is interesting how you defaulted to CFC member.

I mean you could have called out his alliance.

or maybe his corporation.

Hell, you could have just called out his character!

But for some reason, it being a CFC member was the most important bit? :/

Because this is how unfortunately majority of people think, generalizations no matter the discussion are always dangerous but also the easiest way to say everything without taking any responsibility on a particular matter.
As you just said why the guy didn't gave the other guys nick, his corporation instead of his alliance? -easy road

And as far as you see any tag related to Goonswarm you can be sure the automatic way of thinking is: goon = grr = baddie = jerk and so on, like when you see NC PL etc, there will always be generalizations from bad people, and at some point we're all the bad guy of someone else.
Of course Goons have their own clowns like that too but I can safely say I met a lot of them being actually wonderful people to meet and discuss with which doesn't mean all of them neither, it's a game, they play their game and no hard feelings, just taunts to someones intelligence and its what makes things interesting.

BTW we love the British and welcome everything from them except their cuisine. They make great pets.

I've seen this pattern before.

Mechanic that CFC doesn't use.
CFC: "This mechanic is bad."
Others: "You just want it nerfed because it's being used against you!"

Mechanic that CFC uses.
CFC: "This mechanic is bad."
Others: "You just want it nerfed so that others can't use it!"

Pubbie logic.

Never trust a monkey. Some people think they're cute, but they'll probably just bite you and give you herpes.

That's a great big fat lie!

If I wore a swastika and claimed to be part of the SS, you'd hold me accountable for their actions.

You choose to wear the colors of a group whose higher ups are made up of largely the most shameful and pathetic personalities the internet has to offer.

If you do not like being judged as a group, leave the group.