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pershphanie
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Posted - 2006.01.17 04:53:00 -
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Good idea. Keep talking crap about FE. See what happens. |
Liet Traep
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Posted - 2006.01.17 04:58:00 -
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I for the most part had a positive experience working with F-E. Spent a lot of hours camping m-o or p3en. Lots of fights in the pipe there. It's been fun. Whatever the future holds for NBSI or the other alliances it's been a blast.
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Kerosene
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Posted - 2006.01.17 05:04:00 -
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Edited by: Kerosene on 17/01/2006 05:04:43
 Originally by: pershphanie
Good idea. Keep talking crap about FE. See what happens.
Nyxus isn't talking crap about anyone. From a neutral standpoint it looked like he was trying to point out the problems with the current PA/NBSI/F-E relationship, albeit slightly more abrasively than I would have done.
The key point was there's a breakdown of communication up there and some high up people need to get together over TS and a beer and sort out what to do. It saddens me to see such a deterioration of affairs up there when in fact you're all on the same side and fighting for the same thing. Repair whatever communication problems you guys have before its too late and give .5./RISK/FoE a good spanking.
edit: And I too have had good experiences working with F-E in the past. I don't know what's changed 
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Originally by: Galaxian
I'd like to add that as a penalty for warping out, Chowdown recieved a /heal0 from the devs, and his ship promptly exploded.
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Voltron
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Posted - 2006.01.17 05:22:00 -
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and in a completely unrelated matter................ohnoes
Volt
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The End
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Posted - 2006.01.17 05:24:00 -
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Originally by: Kerosene
Edited by: Kerosene on 17/01/2006 05:04:43
Originally by: pershphanie
Good idea. Keep talking crap about FE. See what happens.
Nyxus isn't talking crap about anyone. From a neutral standpoint it looked like he was trying to point out the problems with the current PA/NBSI/F-E relationship, albeit slightly more abrasively than I would have done.
The key point was there's a breakdown of communication up there and some high up people need to get together over TS and a beer and sort out what to do. It saddens me to see such a deterioration of affairs up there when in fact you're all on the same side and fighting for the same thing. Repair whatever communication problems you guys have before its too late and give .5./RISK/FoE a good spanking.
edit: And I too have had good experiences working with F-E in the past. I don't know what's changed
well from the way i read he was talking crap is :)
tis a very fragile time people need to think before they talk. 
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Tiuwaz
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Posted - 2006.01.17 05:51:00 -
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Originally by: Liet Traep
I for the most part had a positive experience working with F-E. Spent a lot of hours camping m-o or p3en. Lots of fights in the pipe there. It's been fun. Whatever the future holds for NBSI or the other alliances it's been a blast.
can only say the same about NBSI, hope we'll be allies sometime soon again <3
Originally by: Oveur
****! Lets nerf it!
To the nerfmobile!
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Kcel Chim
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Posted - 2006.01.17 05:52:00 -
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Originally by: pershphanie
Good idea. Keep talking crap about FE. See what happens.
ive to agree with persh on this one.
FE brought the numbers, FE brought the "fleetfights" 8 of 10 times in HPA, FE brought the dreads, FE brought the POS and last but not least they brought the FC's.
If you didnt have time to "join" in their organisation of things after 2 weeks then its you who are slow and lazy, not them rushing things.
As for the pipe, throwing a 50 bs fleet on a daily basis towards a shared enemy or camping a gate with 4 ceptors and a bubble surely has a different quality, no ?
And size is here clearly no superlative, afterall nbsi were the first to claim to be "as small, fit, organized and powerfull as five" while effectively after ER leaving weve not seen any larger sized bs fleets from you lot (20 bs + support should be no problem for an alliance, hell its no even a problem from atuk- a corp).
In the end it was prolly the right decision, happens when u dont pull your weight, right PA/NBSI?
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Recluse Viramor
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Posted - 2006.01.17 05:53:00 -
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Originally by: Nyxus
No worries, we won't let the war with 5 drop. Ever.
This whole thread gets a giant "meh" from me. Maybe it's because RL has kept me afk for extended periods.
The problem I see lies in the fact that some of the F-E leadership is overly emotional and prone to unplanned, half-baked decisions and public tantrums either in forums or allied channels. See this thread as a prime example. Could an evemail have been sent expressing the issue? Sure, but appearantly a tantrum in public is more immediately gratifying.
stuff....
I fully expect an emotionally charged rant/flame to come from F-E leadership. But would rather be suprised with a retraction of the OP and a real planning session instead.
Nyxus
You know what, I can't really disagree on any point, from my point of view.
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Nyxus
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Posted - 2006.01.17 06:02:00 -
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Originally by: pershphanie
Good idea. Keep talking crap about FE. See what happens.
I haven't critisized F-E.
The thing is, F-E has GREAT pilots. And NSBI respects F-E because they turn out to fight. Of all people we appreciate that willingness to fight. It's not that common in any alliance not specifically structured to be military aka BoB.
What we want is more organization. Planning. Followthrough. Temperateness That is how you inspire loyalty, trust, and have effecacious ops with large groups.
We want an organized operation so we can work together effectively, rather than try to pull things together at the last minute and expect everyone else to try to do the same. Planning is how you dig a pvp alliance out of an entrenched position in an NPC station.
As for now NBSI will leave F-E at blue and will continue our clearing of the pipe and predations on both 5/RISK/FoE/anything not blue. Persh if you don't want FE to stay blue then please send DJ Lightning an evemail and he will adjust standings.
We would love to come to H-PA with a fleet and capital ships to blow the crap outta the ATUK POS and camp them so they have nowhere to hide. If F-E leadership can organize a time to do it let us know. Otherwise we will continue to hunt them everywhere else just as we have been.
Nyxus
Macgyver can build an airplane out of gum and paper clips, but Chuck Norris can kill him and take it.
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Apache
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Posted - 2006.01.17 06:17:00 -
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Originally by: Nyxus
Look at BoB. Do you REALLY think that they want to mine veld for the next month?
OMG. Please tell me you don't know something I don't.
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Nyxus
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Posted - 2006.01.17 06:20:00 -
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Originally by: Kcel
If you didnt have time to "join" in their organisation of things after 2 weeks then its you who are slow and lazy, not them rushing things.
TBH it's not about "joining" them in H-PA. It is more about its usefulness as a tactic to force The 5 out. As long as the ATUK POS exists it's pointless to camp in that system since they have a safe spot to form up in. Take out the POS however....and camping the system suddenly becomes usefull since 5-6 constantly scanning cov ops leaves any enemy ship no where to hide besides in the station itself.
Originally by: Kcel
camping a gate with 4 ceptors and a bubble surely has a different quality, no ?
Heh. I don't think we just engaged 2 dreads and support last week with just 4 ceptors, do you?
Besides, anything you say is extremely suspect as any rift in the North benefits the 5, and hence your desperation to try to drive allies apart. It's acutally amusing to read posts from a week ago where you bad-mouth F-E then read you praise them here lol.
Nyxus
Macgyver can build an airplane out of gum and paper clips, but Chuck Norris can kill him and take it.
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Tiuwaz
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Posted - 2006.01.17 06:27:00 -
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Originally by: Apache
Originally by: Nyxus
Look at BoB. Do you REALLY think that they want to mine veld for the next month?
OMG. Please tell me you don't know something I don't.
Originally by: Oveur
****! Lets nerf it!
To the nerfmobile!
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Seleene
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Posted - 2006.01.17 06:32:00 -
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Originally by: Nyxus
Look at BoB. Do you REALLY think that they want to mine veld for the next month?
Dianabolic does. He sends me screenshots of dozens of RKK mining barges, strip miners lighting up space, while screaming, "PWND!!!" at me in capital letters on MSN. The man is losing it, I tell you....
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Liet Traep
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Posted - 2006.01.17 06:41:00 -
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Originally by: Apache
Originally by: Nyxus
Look at BoB. Do you REALLY think that they want to mine veld for the next month?
OMG. Please tell me you don't know something I don't.
Come on Apache I know of you of old. Don't tell me the sweet sounds of the veld doesn't call to you!
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Mortuus
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Posted - 2006.01.17 06:43:00 -
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Persh, I think you know exactly how worried myself and my pilots are about F-E. Since you folks want to just camp H-PA uselessly (while it may be fun) we have been patrolling the pipe, camping empire entrances, and hunting low sec.
I do not particulary wish to restart hostilities, and we will not take any action until F-E shoots first.
Good luck to F-E. Hope this works out better than for your predecessors.
Occassus Republica, NBSI |
pershphanie
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Posted - 2006.01.17 06:51:00 -
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Originally by: Nyxus
TBH it's not about "joining" them in H-PA. It is more about its usefulness as a tactic to force The 5 out. As long as the ATUK POS exists it's pointless to camp in that system since they have a safe spot to form up in. Take out the POS however....and camping the system suddenly becomes usefull since 5-6 constantly scanning cov ops leaves any enemy ship no where to hide besides in the station itself.
We came up to fight the5. Killing a pos is nice, but it's not exactly an 'i win button'. I thought you guys wanted to fight too. If i would have known you guys werent up to fight it we would have never been talked into war decing them.
You guys couldnt pull your weight neither could pa. nbsi/pa have the available pilots to go gank kia in geminate and zoom around the south ganking miners yet you cannot assist us in any real way in defending our own regions. This is unacceptable.
Please dont come at me with any 'unite the north!' stuff because I know its all crap. Our decision is final. There will be no kissing and making up. GL |
Yazoul Samaiel
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Posted - 2006.01.17 06:55:00 -
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First of all i would like to thank all who were involved in these huge events that occured in the past few months , our Ex allies PA and NBSI and our Enemies and EX enemies 5, SA, FOE, V. This was a great event indeed in which many of us had lots of fun and also learned a lot from it , so respect is in order to all who were involved.
Every one knows FE has fought this war with Honor and Pride and we NEVER backed out on any fight what so ever, both our allies and enemies know that about us  FE like any alliance has an agenda to full fill and now it is time for us to move ahead and proceed with that agenda like all alliances do so there is no big secret behind it
This aint the end of the war nor the start of a new on this is just a change in directive and goals , again thanks to all who have been involved and hope you all had as much fun as we did .
"What ever that doesnt Kill me just makes me stronger"
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Voltron
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Posted - 2006.01.17 06:55:00 -
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I WANT A KISS PLZ
VOlt
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Tiuwaz
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Posted - 2006.01.17 07:03:00 -
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Originally by: Voltron
I WANT A KISS PLZ
VOlt
SMOOOOCHHH
Originally by: Oveur
****! Lets nerf it!
To the nerfmobile!
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Yuzier OA
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Posted - 2006.01.17 07:18:00 -
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Edited by: Yuzier OA on 17/01/2006 07:18:49
Well F-e fought and died, without much help, good call pershephanie
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dj lightning
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Posted - 2006.01.17 07:23:00 -
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Originally by: pershphanie
Good idea. Keep talking crap about FE. See what happens.
Y what u gonna do ?
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Nyxus
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Posted - 2006.01.17 08:03:00 -
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Originally by: Pershphanie
If i would have known you guys werent up to fight it we would have never been talked into war decing them. You guys couldnt pull your weight neither could pa.
We have been fighting the 5 since the fall of Xetic. We are always up for fighting them. Always have been. Always will be.
It's a matter of tactics. NBSI believes that blowing up the ATUK POS and then camping the system makes tactical sense since the 5 fleets would not be able to form up outside the station at all. Anything else is just pointless as the 5 fleets can just sneak out and form up at the POS then engage in pointless laggy fleet battles.
You say NBSI are not pulling thier weight, but we are clearing the pipe for both of our benefits constantly. We have been attacking RISK POS and hostiles both in empire and 0.0, including killing the RISK dread on Friday.
The truth is, you told NBSI to do a tactically unsound manuever in H-PA and our fleet commanders said no. And instead of trying to come to an agreement or re-evaluate the situation you have decided to make a this statement here.
We LOVE shooting at 5. We have stated what we want from F-E leadership if you want everyone to camp H-PA. But just because we don't allow F-E leadership to dictate what NBSI fleets do does not mean that we are not "pulling our weight". It means that we don't blindly follow orders from another alliance.
Nyxus
Macgyver can build an airplane out of gum and paper clips, but Chuck Norris can kill him and take it.
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pershphanie
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Posted - 2006.01.17 08:05:00 -
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whatever helps you sleep at night. Hope you show those pos's whos the boss. have fun defending your space. |
Voltron
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Posted - 2006.01.17 08:07:00 -
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Originally by: pershphanie
whatever helps you sleep at night. Hope you show those pos's whos the boss. have fun defending your space.
can I sleep with you at night?
Volt
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Ishana
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Posted - 2006.01.17 08:11:00 -
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I'm confused...
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Fi T'Zeh
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Posted - 2006.01.17 08:14:00 -
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Originally by: Seleene
Originally by: Nyxus
Look at BoB. Do you REALLY think that they want to mine veld for the next month?
Dianabolic does. He sends me screenshots of dozens of RKK mining barges, strip miners lighting up space, while screaming, "PWND!!!" at me in capital letters on MSN. The man is losing it, I tell you....
You've had it easy tbh, you should see the stuff he'n Blacklight swap in the BoB directors IRC channel, those poor Merc rocks.. /me shudders
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Alts : The forum equivalent of a WCS ?
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Ceratin
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Posted - 2006.01.17 08:15:00 -
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2006.01.14 08:45
Ceratin has declared forum war on E.V.E.R.Y.O.N.E
After 24 hours fighting can legally occur between those involved.
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Mortuus
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Posted - 2006.01.17 08:16:00 -
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And here I am stuck with Syphilis....
Occassus Republica, NBSI |
Lucian Alucard
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Posted - 2006.01.17 08:17:00 -
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Persh is mine Volt and she has syphilis,just doesn't know it yet
Quick, bring me a beaker of wine,that I may wet my mind and say something clever.
-Aristophane
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KIAEddZ
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Posted - 2006.01.17 08:29:00 -
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About time Persp.
CEO of KIA Corp - Been doing it for the Laydeez since 1993, now we is doing it in space.
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