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Vera Algaert
Republic University Minmatar Republic
1055
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Posted - 2013.09.26 13:01:00 -
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Dmw882 wrote:selling Apotheosis bpos on the open market? new Apotheosis ships have been part of promotions several times over the past 2 years.
back then hardly anybody cried (antiquarian doesn't count) so they are stepping up their game now
[insert boiling frogs analogy here] |

Rumtin
Imperium Technologies Get Off My Lawn
24
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Posted - 2013.09.26 13:02:00 -
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Le Petite More wrote:We can't think of real content so lets just favor one group of players and give away rare ships. CCP spent all Alliance tournament talking about how ships are really destroyed. I guess the small print was until they decide to play favorites and give them away.
The Gold Magnate made me feel like decisions in EVE have consequences. Now i feel like CCP is turning away from that with many recent decisions, and it is making me worried.
This somehow makes me suspect that a former EA executive had a hand in this.
I'm telling you, once EA (or anything related to EA) gets their hands on something, you can expect that thing to rot and become ruined. |

Sarmatiko
1444
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Posted - 2013.09.26 13:04:00 -
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The idea of dead and rare ship reintroduction is stupid. Reintroduction through player driven profit site is even more stupid. For **** sake, CCP, you have more than 500 V3 skins that most likely never will be used with current development speed. We have Tempest Tribal Issue with Starkmanir skin? Add random minmatar ship with Starkmanir skin and give it as unique prize - and all will be happy, including collectors. I was pissed off a little when I saw how you "handled" relatively unique rookie ships last time at Gamescom but now I don't even.. -¥ |

Andski
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
8839
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Posted - 2013.09.26 13:06:00 -
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War Kitten wrote:CCP gives prizes to support all sorts of player-run events. This is not ground-breaking. 3+2 new copies of rare ships is not going to ruin the game. Personally I look forward to taking a shot at winning a Guardian Vexor. Hell Eve-Vegas itself is a player-organized event. Why not ***** and moan about CCP sending devs out to support it and spending valuable money and time that could be used developing features! 
CCP's prizes for player-run events in the past have been petty things like PLEX. If you cannot recognize the difference between something like CCP giving an organizer of an RL meetup a handful of timecodes and literally driving players towards a gambling site with the hopes of winning a prize - and the chance of winning those prizes increasing the more ISK they spend - all in exchange for that gambling site giving away petty prizes at EVE Vegas, I can't help you.
Also, you realize that EVE Vegas is an extremely expensive event to organize, right? According to Zapa, it's $19k in deposits and $40k after all is said and done. It has never so much as broken even. Twitter: @EVEAndski
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Varius Xeral
Galactic Trade Syndicate
1201
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Posted - 2013.09.26 13:07:00 -
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Wow...just wow.
Official Representative of The Nullsec Zealot Cabal |

Dinsdale Pirannha
Pirannha Corp
1242
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Posted - 2013.09.26 13:08:00 -
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Wow CCP.....Every now and then you come up with an idea that supercedes all others in stupidity and arrogance. You have reached yet another low.
Does the dept that dreams this stuff up have such staff turn-over that the new staff was not around to experience the rage from 2 summers ago? When you are pissing off so many people from so many areas of the game, maybe it it is time to rethink the concept.
And as others have stated, this is the start of a slippery slope down to lotteries for gold ammo, implants, and ships, with the cash going to a player-run entity, with all profits into the hands of that entity. Most people viewed Orwell's writings as a warning. The harper regime and the goons treat them as a guidebook. |

Shux Legion
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
0
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Posted - 2013.09.26 13:12:00 -
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Relax guys, I'm pretty sure this is just a promotion for Dumb & Dumber to.
CCP would never really do this. |

Big Lynx
D3ath Wingz
7
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Posted - 2013.09.26 13:14:00 -
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Shux Legion wrote: CCP would never really do this.
Too late
http://cogdev.net/blink/?act=celebration |

Mr Kidd
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
1519
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Posted - 2013.09.26 13:14:00 -
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CCP giving half a trillion isk worth of ships to a company with no affiliation except that it is making RL money off CCP's IP...seems legit.
Yes, I have no reservations about the CCP/Somer relationship. No, Sir. None what-so-ever. Don't ban me, bro! |

Random McNally
Red Federation RvB - RED Federation
30365
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Posted - 2013.09.26 13:14:00 -
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I have to agree with many in this Threadnaught.
Spawn new unique ships. Somer is fine for auctioning them off.
Please dont reintroduce the past. Let it keep it's glory (unless of course you hand them straight to me in which case I'll gladly accept them to decorate my hangar. ) Red Fed Grunt.-á Co-Host of the High Drag Podcast. http://highdrag.wordpress.com/ UNBAN SAEDE!-á ALICE SAKI FOR OOPE MODERATOR! Check out the space music at http://minddivided.com |

War Kitten
Panda McLegion xXPlease Pandemic Citizens Reloaded Alliance.Xx
4044
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Posted - 2013.09.26 13:16:00 -
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Andski wrote:War Kitten wrote:CCP gives prizes to support all sorts of player-run events. This is not ground-breaking. 3+2 new copies of rare ships is not going to ruin the game. Personally I look forward to taking a shot at winning a Guardian Vexor. Hell Eve-Vegas itself is a player-organized event. Why not ***** and moan about CCP sending devs out to support it and spending valuable money and time that could be used developing features!  CCP's prizes for player-run events in the past have been petty things like PLEX. If you cannot recognize the difference between something like CCP giving an organizer of an RL meetup a handful of timecodes and literally driving players towards a gambling site with the hopes of winning a prize - and the chance of winning those prizes increasing the more ISK they spend - all in exchange for that gambling site giving away petty prizes at EVE Vegas, I can't help you. Also, you realize that EVE Vegas is an extremely expensive event to organize, right? According to Zapa, it's $19k in deposits and $40k after all is said and done. It has never so much as broken even.
I can see the difference, but CCP gave prizes to the Big Lottery for their anniversary. I can't think of other examples off the top of my head, but that one is pretty similar in terms of a money-generating gambling site. Where was the outrage then?
I'm not sure what the cost of running the EVE Vegas event has to do with anything, but thanks for the info.
I find that without a good mob to provide one for them, most people would have no mentality at all. |

Rumtin
Imperium Technologies Get Off My Lawn
25
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Posted - 2013.09.26 13:17:00 -
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Doris Dents wrote:As Goons are historically important to the game and still creating fresh content can we get some dev favoritism for once instead of having whatever bandwagon we're on nerfed every time without fail?
My corps been around sense EvE was in Beta, and we also have the third Oldest character in game as a member, and he still plays!! Maybe we could get some dev favoritism as well. |

Clue 3K
Ship Spinning Industries
7
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Posted - 2013.09.26 13:18:00 -
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Random McNally wrote:I have to agree with many in this Threadnaught. Spawn new unique ships. Somer is fine for auctioning them off. Please dont reintroduce the past. Let it keep it's glory (unless of course you hand them straight to me in which case I'll gladly accept them to decorate my hangar.  ) Actually I find the whole SOMER Blink involved more appaling than the reintroduction of old ships. Granted I wasn't around back then and can see the lore to it but giving a player run deal the opportunity to make **** ton more money than they already do is ridiculous. I'm only on this because my main, Tron 3K, is banned till 9/30/2013! Don't give me any likes! |

Krixtal Icefluxor
INLAND EMPIRE Galactic
48695
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Posted - 2013.09.26 13:20:00 -
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Vera Algaert wrote:Dmw882 wrote:selling Apotheosis bpos on the open market? new Apotheosis ships have been part of promotions several times over the past 2 years. back then hardly anybody cried (Antiquarian doesn't count) so CCP are stepping up their game now [insert boiling frogs analogy here]
There were (and are) still thousands of Apotheosis on the Market.
This issue is a completely different paradigm.
If you don't understand that, you just have not been playing that long or something. Why do bikers wear leather ??-á Because chiffon wrinkles too easily.-á -- Paul Lynde |

Jenn aSide
STK Scientific Initiative Mercenaries
2859
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Posted - 2013.09.26 13:21:00 -
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Stick to your guns CCP, these things are just pixels.
Some of you need to take a break from EVE, find a girl (or guy, whatever) and "get some". |

Anomaly One
State War Academy Caldari State
1
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Posted - 2013.09.26 13:22:00 -
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it would have been better to just introduce new ships why the same ones??.. if this does happen you can voice your opinions in game in two ways, the players who will win these ships will self destruct instantly! or you should go out hunting to the people that won it and explode the ship for them! providing they undock.. |

Hildulfr
Dark Fusion Industries Limitless Inc.
1
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Posted - 2013.09.26 13:22:00 -
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Having seen the success of providing prizes for events in other games I can endorse that idea without problem, but bringing back event/unique ships is bad form. Create a new event ship that can be used for a year for multiple events. One ship a year shouldn't be too difficult. |

The Antiquarian
Imperial Academy Amarr Empire
1765
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Posted - 2013.09.26 13:23:00 -
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Agata Matahari wrote:Let's face the truth. There will be only 2 Goldmagnates and 4 x Guardian Vexors. At the end ISK is the deciding aspect. Some ultraspacerich guys/collectors (chribba, entity etc.) will buy almost all tickets and win, or the average pilot wins one of those rare ships and sells it for some billions (trillions) to another superspacerich collector. Finally, the ships are as rare as before, and will collect dust in hangars like the others. So will the Goldmagnates. Never seen again... 
Do you not realize that this would usher in the era where CCP hands out once unique ships to third parties like AOL Trial-Disk at the supermarket?
This is another spit on the face at the "collecting profession." When I started playing EVE, I loved the aspect of having ownership over these beautiful pixel ships with definite quantities in the market. There are those who spent thousands of hours to accumulate wealth (or spent thousands of dollars in cash for PLEX purchase), just to own these truly unique ships. Now that CCP is planning to print these unique ships like AOL Trial disks, preexisting owners will incur substantial loss as they see the market value of these ships go down.
Collecting unique items and seeing my "pixel investments" grow brought me ultimate joy years ago. Ever since the advent of handing out once-unique-items freely by CCP Marketing department, now, I am not even sure what to collect. I play this game with constant fear that whatever I bought will see their market value plunge due to CCP minting more ships.
I stopped collecting any "unique" items that were issued from 2009 and up. Please do not touch old unique ships that have standings in EVE history. |

Krixtal Icefluxor
INLAND EMPIRE Galactic
48695
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Posted - 2013.09.26 13:23:00 -
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Rumtin wrote:
I'm telling you, once EA (or anything related to EA) gets their hands on something, you can expect that thing to rot and become ruined.
Yes. I leave flowers on the grave of SimCity every morning. Secretly. Why do bikers wear leather ??-á Because chiffon wrinkles too easily.-á -- Paul Lynde |

Clue 3K
Ship Spinning Industries
7
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Posted - 2013.09.26 13:23:00 -
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Jenn aSide wrote:Stick to your guns CCP, these things are just pixels.
Some of you need to take a break from EVE, find a girl (or guy, whatever) and "get some". Tired line is tired.. I got some last night and this morning and still find this to be dumb. Should I have went for a third time would that have changed my attitude towards them doing something ridiculously dumb like this?
I'm only on this because my main, Tron 3K, is banned till 9/30/2013! Don't give me any likes! |

Mildew Wolf
118
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Posted - 2013.09.26 13:23:00 -
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smh ccp |

Red Templar
Monkey Attack Squad Goonswarm Federation
229
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Posted - 2013.09.26 13:23:00 -
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War Kitten wrote:CCP gives prizes to support all sorts of player-run events. This is not ground-breaking. 3+2 new copies of rare ships is not going to ruin the game. Personally I look forward to taking a shot at winning a Guardian Vexor. Hell Eve-Vegas itself is a player-organized event. Why not ***** and moan about CCP sending devs out to support it and spending valuable money and time that could be used developing features!  Well nobody would care if it was CCP giving out the prizes.
But its not them. CCP gives prizes to someone else, and then that someone else distributes them via lottery (that could be rigged apparently) making huge amounts of ingame money on the way. They will donate fraction of that money as tournament prizes, so apparently that makes it "Ok" in CCP books. Even though amount of money they will make is not comparable to amount donated.
And apparently this kind of gesture from CCP can be considered as endorsement or support for that gambling site. So if at any point, that site will be rigged or it turns out that people are scammed, then its also CCP fault.
The way i see it, i can go play few blinks now, lose cash, and then create petition for CCP. BEcause i trusted that site based on CCP giving them gifts to distribute, and now i have feeling that its a scam. And they should audit it.
And its my opinion, that even if the single isk made from those ships, or a ship is not distributed to players as prizes, all organizers of somer blink should be perma banned and all transactions reversed. Because CCP giving players item or isk, or anyway contributing and helping them making isk, is a big nono. For Love. For Peace. For Honor.
For None of the Above.
For Pony! |

Andski
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
8845
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Posted - 2013.09.26 13:29:00 -
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War Kitten wrote:I can see the difference, but CCP gave prizes to the Big Lottery for their anniversary. I can't think of other examples off the top of my head, but that one is pretty similar in terms of a money-generating gambling site. Where was the outrage then?
This completely dwarfs that, by leaps and bounds.
War Kitten wrote:I'm not sure what the cost of running the EVE Vegas event has to do with anything, but thanks for the info.
Because you brought up CCP attending EVE Vegas and promoting it? Twitter: @EVEAndski
TheMittani.com: The premier source for news, commentary and discussion of EVE Online and other games of interest.-á |

Agata Matahari
Royal Amarr Institute Amarr Empire
5
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Posted - 2013.09.26 13:32:00 -
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The Antiquarian wrote:Agata Matahari wrote:Let's face the truth. There will be only 2 Goldmagnates and 4 x Guardian Vexors. At the end ISK is the deciding aspect. Some ultraspacerich guys/collectors (chribba, entity etc.) will buy almost all tickets and win, or the average pilot wins one of those rare ships and sells it for some billions (trillions) to another superspacerich collector. Finally, the ships are as rare as before, and will collect dust in hangars like the others. So will the Goldmagnates. Never seen again...  Do you not realize that this would usher in the era where CCP hands out once unique ships to third parties like AOL Trial-Disk at the supermarket? This is another spit on the face at the "collecting profession." When I started playing EVE, I loved the aspect of having ownership over these beautiful pixel ships with definite quantities in the market. There are those who spent thousands of hours to accumulate wealth (or spent thousands of dollars in cash for PLEX purchase), just to own these truly unique ships. Now that CCP is planning to print these unique ships like AOL Trial disks, preexisting owners will incur substantial loss as they see the market value of these ships go down. Collecting unique items and seeing my "pixel investments" grow brought me ultimate joy years ago. Ever since the advent of handing out once-unique-items freely by CCP Marketing department, now, I am not even sure what to collect. I play this game with constant fear that whatever I bought will see their market value plunge due to CCP minting more ships. I stopped collecting any "unique" items that were issued from 2009 and up. Please do not touch old unique ships that have standings in EVE history.
I understand your concerns, but it's only 4 gvex and 2 Goldies. I am sure entity would pay only for the goldies some trillions of isk. So there is no drop in market value, so there isn't with 4 more gvexes. |

Andski
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
8847
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Posted - 2013.09.26 13:36:00 -
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Gold Magnates don't actually have a "market value" because up until now there have been no extant hulls since 2004. Twitter: @EVEAndski
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War Kitten
Panda McLegion xXPlease Pandemic Citizens Reloaded Alliance.Xx
4052
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Posted - 2013.09.26 13:37:00 -
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Andski wrote:War Kitten wrote:I can see the difference, but CCP gave prizes to the Big Lottery for their anniversary. I can't think of other examples off the top of my head, but that one is pretty similar in terms of a money-generating gambling site. Where was the outrage then? This completely dwarfs that, by leaps and bounds. War Kitten wrote:I'm not sure what the cost of running the EVE Vegas event has to do with anything, but thanks for the info. Because you brought up CCP attending EVE Vegas and promoting it?
I brought that up because its the caliber of complaints we typically see in GD. I was just being facetious.
I wonder about the somerblink link as well, but there is precedent in them giving prizes to player organizations to give out. It's their problem if it goes awry, and I'm not going to lose any sleep over it if it does. CCP gonna CCP.
Again, personally I would just love to have a Guardian-Vexor and like the idea of a couple more being out there. Perhaps the solution is to rename these new copies to appease the rarity and history buffs?
I find that without a good mob to provide one for them, most people would have no mentality at all. |

Agata Matahari
Royal Amarr Institute Amarr Empire
5
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Posted - 2013.09.26 13:37:00 -
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Andski wrote:Gold Magnates don't actually have a "market value" because up until now there have been no extant hulls since 2004.
It will be some trillions. ;) |

Aiseth Devona
Wildly Inappropriate Goonswarm Federation
4
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Posted - 2013.09.26 13:38:00 -
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Give them away in a way that doesnt have cash pouring into somer blink is pretty much the only sane answer.
If somer have these for free essentially any profit they make off this is CCP favouritism. Doesnt matter if they make the isk anyway. Imagine if Goonswarm ran a lottery website and CCP gave them to us to then dole in a lottery. The entire community would be all Grrr goons. |

The Antiquarian
Imperial Academy Amarr Empire
1765
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Posted - 2013.09.26 13:38:00 -
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Agata Matahari wrote:The Antiquarian wrote:Agata Matahari wrote:Let's face the truth. There will be only 2 Goldmagnates and 4 x Guardian Vexors. At the end ISK is the deciding aspect. Some ultraspacerich guys/collectors (chribba, entity etc.) will buy almost all tickets and win, or the average pilot wins one of those rare ships and sells it for some billions (trillions) to another superspacerich collector. Finally, the ships are as rare as before, and will collect dust in hangars like the others. So will the Goldmagnates. Never seen again...  Do you not realize that this would usher in the era where CCP hands out once unique ships to third parties like AOL Trial-Disk at the supermarket? This is another spit on the face at the "collecting profession." When I started playing EVE, I loved the aspect of having ownership over these beautiful pixel ships with definite quantities in the market. There are those who spent thousands of hours to accumulate wealth (or spent thousands of dollars in cash for PLEX purchase), just to own these truly unique ships. Now that CCP is planning to print these unique ships like AOL Trial disks, preexisting owners will incur substantial loss as they see the market value of these ships go down. Collecting unique items and seeing my "pixel investments" grow brought me ultimate joy years ago. Ever since the advent of handing out once-unique-items freely by CCP Marketing department, now, I am not even sure what to collect. I play this game with constant fear that whatever I bought will see their market value plunge due to CCP minting more ships. I stopped collecting any "unique" items that were issued from 2009 and up. Please do not touch old unique ships that have standings in EVE history. I understand your concerns, but it's only 4 gvex and 2 Goldies. I am sure entity would pay only for the goldies some trillions of isk. So there is no drop in market value, so there isn't with 4 more gvexes. The problem is SOMER, they are a capitalist mafia.
Can you really not see what is going on here? Who says CCP will stop from here? After this event, handing out these unique ships will become the norm and every lotteries will be flooding historically unique ships in the near future.
Do collectors seriously have to live in constant fear that their "collection" that is comprised of thousands of hours of sweat, tears, and $ (PLEX Purchase) will diminish in value upon whim of CCP's amazing Marketing Department? |

Andski
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
8847
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Posted - 2013.09.26 13:40:00 -
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The sensible (CCP, sensible, looool) solution would have been to give a few unissued avatar apparel bits to the winners of the PvP tournament and 30 day GTCs to participants, not pumping mad ISK and RL money into a player's wallet. Twitter: @EVEAndski
TheMittani.com: The premier source for news, commentary and discussion of EVE Online and other games of interest.-á |
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