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Amhra Rho
Accujac Elimination
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Posted - 2013.09.26 11:30:00 -
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The whole zen of these ships is their rarity. They're digital. If you really want a new, limited ship, you can create a new and different one in a day, and let revered ancient artifacts remain scarce.
There's real reasons why your Eve character doesn't do /dance. |
captain foivos
State War Academy
Caldari State
158
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Posted - 2013.09.26 11:31:00 -
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"Hey let's just reintroduce a bunch of rare ships based on the extremely rigorous criteria of 'we like these people so they get untold billions of free ISK.'" |
Agata Matahari
Royal Amarr Institute
Amarr Empire
1
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Posted - 2013.09.26 11:33:00 -
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captain foivos wrote:"Hey let's just reintroduce a bunch of rare ships based on the extremely rigorous criteria of 'we like these people so they get untold billions of free ISK.'"
Some would pay trillions for that goldmagnate. That thing with somer, i don't like that. |
Bobmon
Burning Napalm
Northern Coalition.
58
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Posted - 2013.09.26 11:44:00 -
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woot somers new beachhouse is on its way!
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Asayanami Dei
Adhocracy Incorporated
Adhocracy
391
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Posted - 2013.09.26 11:45:00 -
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If I win the golden magnate by some chance, I will hold an event so it could die once again in a glorious death and a huge ball of fire. It's gone CCP, it should not be revived.
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Tomohiro Tsumego
Dynamic Industries
Dynamic Industries Alliance
0
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Posted - 2013.09.26 11:50:00 -
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Asayanami Dei wrote:If I win the golden magnate by some chance, I will hold an event so it could die once again in a glorious death and a huge ball of fire. It's gone CCP, it should not be revived.
That will surely make the other winner very happy as theirs suddenly becomes twice as rare of a unicorn. |
Red Templar
Monkey Attack Squad
Goonswarm Federation
219
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Posted - 2013.09.26 11:52:00 -
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Whose idea was this anyway?
Did this third party lottery thing approach CCP and asked for unique prizes? Or was it some smart-ass CCP dude who decided it will be a "good idea" to spawn some rare ships?
It is your right ofc to give out prizes, but at least give these ships different names from the originals. Like "Gold Magnate MkII" or something.
For Love. For Peace. For Honor.
For None of the Above.
For Pony! |
Adaahh Gee
Rock jockeyz
88
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Posted - 2013.09.26 11:52:00 -
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I don't really care about the prices of rare ships that I will never own fluctuating.
I do care about:
1. CCP going back on their word.
2. CCP releasing more near useless ships into game (gold magnate etc has no benefit over regular magnate).
3. CCP being so lazy as to not just make a few new special edition ships, they have stacks of design ideas from the previous ship design contests, and I'd hope there is at least one person left at CCP with enough imagination to design and spec a new ship. |
Entity
X-Factor Industries
Synthetic Existence
536
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Posted - 2013.09.26 11:55:00 -
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Adaahh Gee wrote:I don't really care about the prices of rare ships that I will never own fluctuating.
I do care about:
1. CCP going back on their word.
2. CCP releasing more near useless ships into game (gold magnate etc has no benefit over regular magnate).
3. CCP being so lazy as to not just make a few new special edition ships, they have stacks of design ideas from the previous ship design contests, and I'd hope there is at least one person left at CCP with enough imagination to design and spec a new ship.
It's not about their ISK value. That is a side issue.
It's the fact the Gold Magnate has legendary status and reintroducing it is like... Highlander II.
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Andski
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
8820
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Posted - 2013.09.26 11:57:00 -
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While we're at it, can you guys spawn me a Sabre BPO? Thanks!
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Red Templar
Monkey Attack Squad
Goonswarm Federation
219
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Posted - 2013.09.26 11:59:00 -
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Additional question.
Will it be audited by CCP where ISK go and that all ships will be handed out?
Or in case Somer will not hand over ships to winner, CCP will just say "Welp, we got scammed, no rule against that, good job"?
You just recently changed TOS over this.
And since you are giving the ships, you are endorsing this lottery, thus it represents CCP.
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For None of the Above.
For Pony! |
Steijn
Quay Industries
CAStabouts
352
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Posted - 2013.09.26 11:59:00 -
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Andski wrote:While we're at it, can you guys spawn me a Sabre BPO? Thanks!
good point, if we are re-releasing limited edition ships, why not do the same with T2 BPOs, or even seed them on the market.?(sarcasm for those not able to grasp it). |
IHaveCandyGetInTheVan69
Angry Mustellid
383
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Posted - 2013.09.26 12:01:00 -
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Andrev Nox wrote:As detailed in the link you quoted - we're sponsoring the PVP tourney happening at Eve Vegas with ISK prizes, and I'm attending to hand out ISK prizes as well.
We've sponsored several dozen RL meetups in this fashion so far, although this one is by far the biggest amount of sponsorship to date :)
I do appreciate that Somer is funding things like this and the NEO etc.. Could you explain how exactly the ISK from these limited ships will be calculated?
a) The ISK from the pools of these blinks
b) The difference in ISK deposited / blinked between an average week and the week of these special prizes
c) some other method?
The increase in profits from more players using Somer after the exposure from this event could be in the hundreds of billions in the long run, even after factoring in the payouts and sponsorship. In fact I could easily imagine that Somer might make more money in the long run than an entity would from simply auctioning off the ships. Just the fact of CCP giving them their blessing in handing over these ships will (wrongly) convince many players Somer is completely legitimate, that's not to say that they necessarily aren't but this really doesn't prove anything.
Seems a very sketchy move.
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Andski
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
8820
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Posted - 2013.09.26 12:01:00 -
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Red Templar wrote:Additional question.
Will it be audited by CCP where ISK go and that all ships will be handed out?
Or in case Somer will not hand over ships to winner, CCP will just say "Welp, we got scammed, no rule against that, good job"?
You just recently changed TOS over this.
And since you are giving the ships, you are endorsing this lottery, thus it represents CCP.
Look at the last quote in the OP. They can't be bothered to audit what is literally giving a single player and his friends a half trillion ISK to give away through their lottery.
Twitter: @EVEAndski
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Whim Aqayn
Ministry of War
Amarr Empire
47
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Posted - 2013.09.26 12:03:00 -
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No, CCP. This is seriously a bad idea. How did this bullshit idea even get through? |
Roime
Quantum Cats Syndicate
Samurai Pizza Cats
3478
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Posted - 2013.09.26 12:04:00 -
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This is ******* ******** and shouldn't be done under any circumstances, for specific reasons explained already in this thread.
CCP, stop this stupid
Make NEW special things, do not reuse the old ones.
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arabella blood
I Swear She Looked 18
168
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Posted - 2013.09.26 12:05:00 -
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This is what happens when you are lazy.
Lazy to introduce new ships.
Lazy to do a lottery yourself.
What about all the people blocked at Somer? cant they have a chance to win?
What about favoriting one organization over the others?
Just by the look of thing, it looks like CCP just enjoys watching our tears :)
Troll for hire. Cheap prices. |
Bagrat Skalski
Poseidaon
326
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Posted - 2013.09.26 12:05:00 -
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How can you cry about them adding 4 more unique ships to the game? Its utterly ridiculous. If i would get any of this i would just fly it into the gatecamp to show you how much I care. 
New CQ prototype |
Red Templar
Monkey Attack Squad
Goonswarm Federation
220
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Posted - 2013.09.26 12:12:00 -
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Andski wrote:Red Templar wrote:Additional question.
Will it be audited by CCP where ISK go and that all ships will be handed out?
Or in case Somer will not hand over ships to winner, CCP will just say "Welp, we got scammed, no rule against that, good job"?
You just recently changed TOS over this.
And since you are giving the ships, you are endorsing this lottery, thus it represents CCP. Look at the last quote in the OP. They can't be bothered to audit what is literally giving a single player and his friends a half trillion ISK to give away through their lottery. With, of course, the possibility of these things going to their shill accounts that ~do not exist~
Ok, that seems legit to me, no worries there then.
Hey CCP, i wanna have EVE event for my friends and we need cool prizes. Can you spawn me some ships? I will take even regular titans, no need for rare stuff. Thanks in advance!
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For None of the Above.
For Pony! |
Andski
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
8820
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Posted - 2013.09.26 12:12:00 -
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Spawn some unused clothes assets or whatever for this thing, but don't give away previously issued limited issue ships, especially not those that are no longer extant.
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Ariel Dawn
F9X
1137
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Posted - 2013.09.26 12:13:00 -
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This should be done via an official CCP channel, not blink. It's essentially handing them a couple trillion ISK and there's tons of people who would love an opportunity for these items (unreleased monacle, wtb!) who have no interest in giving the blink people ISK. |
Alara IonStorm
5357
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Posted - 2013.09.26 12:16:00 -
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Why the Gold Magnate, it has no real special powers. It is legend for one and only reason, that one existed then died. If it isn't legend for that reason no one will care.
No one cares about the Silver Magnate but everyone who plays EVE learns the history of the Gold Magnate at some point or another because of this.
This is disappointing. |
Kern Hotha
45
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Posted - 2013.09.26 12:16:00 -
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I don't care whether old ships are added back into the game. A player-run gambling corporation as the point of origin for the ships is a questionable choice, though. One might ponder why such a corporation is apparently favored by CCP.
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Seraph Essael
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
100
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Posted - 2013.09.26 12:17:00 -
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If they are going to do it (which I hope they don't but to be honest it sounds like CCP have already spawned and dished out the ships in preperation) they should do it account wise: 1 account = 1 entry.
Not everyone plays blink, and to be honest I can't stand the idea of it. There are people on the TS channel I use and all they do is carebear on Eve chatting about the billions of ISK they have put into blink and interupt people chatting by shouting "Promo. Promo. Promo." down their mics.
Im still new to Eve (2013 char), and a collector of ships (my goal is to collect every sub capital class ship in the game) and I knew before I started that there was some super rare ships that I would have to grind ISK for and barter price on etc (hell I spoke with Entity for christ sake to find out different ways to go about adding rarer ships to my collection). I understood from the beginning that there was some ships that no longer existed in the game and that actually was fantastic.
Why not create a new ship from concept art or whatever, instead of re introducing a ship that has been destroyed in player created lore (which is what this game is all about right?). The person who lost that Gold Magnate, and the people who played their parts in its destruction, created EVE history and introducing more would diminish that fact.
As for the Guardian-Vexor, it is my goal to have one of those, but if they re-implement these and I get one, I will sort of feel like I have cheated. It might not be one of the originals etc etc. I like the idea of hunting down this rare ship and getting my hands on one, but one that isn't an original one of fifty (I think there was originally fifty?) no thanks...
Edit: Terrible spelling.
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Josef Djugashvilis
Acme Mining Corporation
1325
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Posted - 2013.09.26 12:17:00 -
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As one can play this game legally at the tender age of thirteen, any official connection between CCP and an in-game gambling site is, well, not good to say the least.
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Gamer4liff
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
13
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Posted - 2013.09.26 12:19:00 -
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Really, CCP? You're really just going to hand these fantastically rare items out to a player run organization at zero effort cost?
May as well re-seed the T2 BPO lottery while you're at it, at least that lottery wouldn't go through a player run organization. |
Morphisat
Millard Innovation Inc
The 20 Minuters
30
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Posted - 2013.09.26 12:21:00 -
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Kern Hotha wrote:I don't care whether old ships are added back into the game. A player-run gambling corporation as the point of origin for the ships is a questionable choice, though. One might ponder why such a corporation is apparently favored by CCP.
This exactly ! Why favor one site / organization over another ? Make you wonder, doesn't ? |
Andski
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
8821
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Posted - 2013.09.26 12:21:00 -
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Gamer4liff wrote:Really, CCP? You're really just going to hand these fantastically rare items out to a player run organization at zero effort cost?
May as well re-seed the T2 BPO lottery while you're at it, at least that lottery wouldn't go through a player run organization.
But why bother reimplementing and retesting code unused since 2005 when they can let Blink give out the T2 BPOs?
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Clue 3K
Ship Spinning Industries
2
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Posted - 2013.09.26 12:21:00 -
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CCP should have never allowed the idea to go through and pass out ships that were suppose to be gone forever. SOMER Blink needs to burn to the ground for even agreeing to this bullshit. I recommend everyone boycott their service. If they don't become more hated than grrr goons, we as a community have failed.
I'm only on this because my main, Tron 3K, is banned till 9/30/2013! Don't give me any likes! |
Professional Forum Alt
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
21
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Posted - 2013.09.26 12:21:00 -
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This is the WORST IDEA I have heard from CCP in a VERY LONG time.
Reseeding these rare ship of EVE history - REALLY terrible idea.
(Destroying EVE history)
Making them won by a lottery for some people - EVEN worse idea.
(T2 BPO - anyone?)
Making it though a player held lottery - WORST idea ever.
(Conflict of interest...)
CCP - Has was it again that this year "office tour" lottery was handled this year ?
You guys REALLY need to take a hard look at this idea, and fix it ASAP...
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