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Pr1ncess Alia Perkone Caldari State 407	Posted - 2013.09.26 15:53:00 - [241] - Quote Inevitably, these types of things are sure to make someones friend very happy.
Hra Neuvosto FinFleet Northern Coalition. 118	Posted - 2013.09.26 16:02:00 - [242] - Quote Why not plan and organise a big and interesting lore event and introduce a few NEW unique ships into the game? Ah right... effort.
Bagrat Skalski Poseidaon 329	Posted - 2013.09.26 16:07:00 - [243] - Quote Don't be stupid, you will have shiny ships to shoot at. PROFIT. Protect yourself from CONCORD today! Tinfoil hats, quality product. Styled after pirate hats.
Phantra Sniggerdly Pandemic Legion 59	Posted - 2013.09.26 16:07:00 - [244] - Quote "well they might rip us off but y'know.. if that does happen.. lesson learned LOL" I'd like to take this opportunity to say that if you ever give me the opportunity to raffle off a gold magnate or a guardian vexor.. I'll just keep it. Incredible.
Andski GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation 8862	Posted - 2013.09.26 16:10:00 - [245] - Quote iskflakes wrote: This is very bad. Very bad. Why give Somer the free billions? Understatement of the year. Twitter: @EVEAndski TheMittani.com: The premier source for news, commentary and discussion of EVE Online and other games of interest.-á
Andski GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation 8863	Posted - 2013.09.26 16:17:00 - [246] - Quote Basically the three groups that will benefit the most from this arrangement are Somer, who will rake in more piles of ISK from people playing his lotteries to rack up tickets for the Blast, along with kickbacks from Markee Dragon from the GTC sales to people topping up their Blink credits and obviously CCP and Markee Dragon. I guess you can count the people who will have a Guardian Vexor or Gold Magnate gathering dust in a hangar as well. Twitter: @EVEAndski TheMittani.com: The premier source for news, commentary and discussion of EVE Online and other games of interest.-á
Lugalbandak Anunnaku Industrial Corp. Northern Associates. 132	Posted - 2013.09.26 16:19:00 - [247] - Quote Andrev Nox wrote: The original plan was for the CCP donated prizes to be a Bonk, and to roll the Bonk earnings straight back into the Eve Vegas sponsorship (detailed here: https://community.eveonline.com/news/dev-blogs/eve-vegas-2013-1/ ) But we wanted to give folks a chance at these hulls that didn't want to spend any ISK on our site too, so we moved the tickets to "any play" and are rolling any residual profit from this event back to the Vegas event sponsorship. Speaking of - make sure you seek me out while you're there if you get some free time. I'll be handing out said prizes all weekend :) But we wanted to give folks a chance at these hulls that didn't want to spend any ISK on our site too (epic) The police horse is the only animal in the world that haz his male genitals on his back
Zahara Cody Imperial Corrections Service. 30	Posted - 2013.09.26 16:22:00 - [248] - Quote I'll be shooting the Jita monument with my Gvex in protest. (not really)
Big Lynx D3ath Wingz 11	Posted - 2013.09.26 16:24:00 - [249] - Quote ****, I'll come with my Chremoas!! (not really)
Malcolm Shinhwa Bad Touches 328	Posted - 2013.09.26 16:24:00 - [250] - Quote Somer Blink is a scam. Its a scam not because there is proof of a scam. Its a scam because you can't prove its not. In the same way every single online poker site is a scam. It can be scammed, you can't prove its not being scammed, so it is a scam. Crazy that CCP would affiliate themselves with an in-game player corp like this. But I was surprised they did so with The Angel Project as well. CCP could have done any number of things to hold an event like this, but instead chose to enrich one player corp over the rest of New Eden. Like a lot of people, I'd like to know what I need to do to have CCP shower the love on Bad Touches. We're a small dynamic corp, with awesome growth potential and could really use a few trillion isk to make our dreams of making all of hisec code-compliant. CCP, help a brother out why don't you? This is the rule:-á In Eve it's always a trick. If you don't think it's a trick, you just don't have enough experience to know what the trick is. That doesn't mean you shouldn't launch on that fool anyway and roll the dice.
Bizzaro Stormy MurphDog B.L.U.E L.A.S.E.R. 154	Posted - 2013.09.26 16:25:00 - [251] - Quote So, so stupid. I don't want the devs 1) compelling me to participate in some corp's lottery system to 2) have a chance at a ship that shouldn't even be being released. Two instances of being ****** does not make something non-*****. Stop it, CCP. Just stop it. I am* not an alt of Chribba.
Marlene Dakenek Devid Ventures 5	Posted - 2013.09.26 16:25:00 - [252] - Quote Whoever makes these decisions has obviously never played this game before. Unique ships should remain unique.
Alara IonStorm 5364	Posted - 2013.09.26 16:25:00 - [253] - Quote Ranger 1 wrote: In the case of the Gold Magnate there are no more left in game, so what exactly is the value of a non-existent ship? I am disappointed in you Ranger 1. For someone whom loves EVE as much as you do I figured you would be displeased at this in particular. The Gold Magnate is one of the best stories in EVE, that there once was a gold ship so valuable that they only made one just for it to be destroyed in a regular gate camp. It is something to want but never again own or grace our space again and one of the best pieces of EVE history, one that captivated me more then any other "special ship". Now it is being trounced out for a simple lottery... The Gold Magnate had its time in the sun, if there was but 1 ship for CCP to let it be it is this one. Let the story of the Gold Magnate remain and EVE legend forever, not with an *Also release in random lottery.
ElQuirko Jester Syndicate S0UTHERN C0MF0RT 1979	Posted - 2013.09.26 16:26:00 - [254] - Quote I'd just like to point out to CCP now I've always been willing to enrich the game and if they want me to hand them out instead I'm good with that Save the Domi model! Spacewhales should be preserved.
Big Lynx D3ath Wingz 12	Posted - 2013.09.26 16:27:00 - [255] - Quote Marlene Dakenek wrote: Whoever makes these decisions has obviously never played this game before. Unique ships should remain unique. The new EA dude
Soulpirate Interstellar Booty Hunters 293	Posted - 2013.09.26 16:33:00 - [256] - Quote Big Lynx wrote: Marlene Dakenek wrote: Whoever makes these decisions has obviously never played this game before. Unique ships should remain unique. The new EA dude Like he said. Deal with it.
Eternal Error Immortalis Inc. Shadow Cartel 402	Posted - 2013.09.26 16:39:00 - [257] - Quote Reintroducing old, rare ships is a bad idea. Officially endorsing a player organization in this manner and performing the reintroduction through them is a TERRIBLE idea. Please don't do this.
Jane Schereau 37	Posted - 2013.09.26 16:42:00 - [258] - Quote I've nothing to add, other than my support for the community's displeasure with CCP over this. The fact is somer is being given these out for free is disturbing. Why them, even when you admit you won't have control over who they give them out to?
Ranger 1 Ranger Corp 4679	Posted - 2013.09.26 16:42:00 - [259] - Quote The Antiquarian wrote: Ranger 1 wrote: The Guardian-Vexor, to my knowledge, was never billed as a limited edition never to be released again ship when it was created. You do realize that GV was issued as part of a "tournament?" Know your history first. Also, CCP Dev said Ishukone Scorpion Watch will not be issued as part of other events during the charity event. Perhaps I am not remembering correctly, but I don't think they were rewards in the Alliance Tournament (and promoted as only being issued as a prize for that tournament). I have it in my head that the "tournament" in question was more of a competition... hauling O2 or some such commodity.... and that several 5 run BPC's were the prize. If I'm remembering correctly that's a whole different kettle of fish than an unique, limited run alliance tournament prize ship. To carve a successful niche for yourself in EVE you need to be able to out sell, out produce, out fight,-á out run, or out wit your competitors. If you can do none of the above, your only option is to complain on the forums that somehow you are at a disadvantage using the exact same tool set-áas the rest of the player base.
Jip McLovin Z3R0 Return Mining Inc. Illusion of Solitude 0	Posted - 2013.09.26 16:43:00 - [260] - Quote Part of what makes eve great is the feeling of permanence that it has. If you lose a hull, it's gone forever. That applies to legacy items too. Being what being are makes them part of how eve came to be what it is today. Please don't change that. We've spent years building/living/writing our games narrative, so please don't belittle part of that by ret-conning more gold magnates into existence. That's applies to the guardian vexors as well. That situation has the added impact of people still owning some of them. Let them continue to have their trophy they worked to get. Through is or effort, they earned them. Adding more will only diminish their accomplishments. As for some blink; I feel it is inappropriate to use a third party as part of your distribution strategy for any new thing. It has the risk of showing favoritism and could very well leave a horribly bad taste in peoples mouths that goes off anything but perfectly. Sparking a summer of rage with T20 version 2.0 is probably not ideal. I completely understand why you want to create buzz around new things, but do it yourself. Have an in game auction (silent or otherwise) to spread them. Tl;dr Do not destroy the more we've help create with adding more gold magnates or guardian vexors. I strongly recommend against using third parties to distribute new things.
IHaveCandyGetInTheVan69 Angry Mustellid 389	Posted - 2013.09.26 16:45:00 - [261] - Quote Big Lynx wrote: Marlene Dakenek wrote: Whoever makes these decisions has obviously never played this game before. Unique ships should remain unique. The new EA dude INB4 Eve Online - Origin Exclusive. Capital Shop temporarily closed.
ElQuirko Jester Syndicate S0UTHERN C0MF0RT 1981	Posted - 2013.09.26 16:48:00 - [262] - Quote IHaveCandyGetInTheVan69 wrote: Big Lynx wrote: Marlene Dakenek wrote: Whoever makes these decisions has obviously never played this game before. Unique ships should remain unique. The new EA dude INB4 Eve Online - Origin Exclusive. "Subscribe through Origin and receive the brand new Ishukone Nyx, now with 300% more gold hull texture!" Save the Domi model! Spacewhales should be preserved.
Issler Dainze Tadakastu-Obata Corporation The Honda Accord 2395	Posted - 2013.09.26 16:48:00 - [263] - Quote It seems like a really really bad idea. I love unique content and why is because it is unique!! Make new unique stuff, don't mess up stuff already there. Didn't you watch the "Incredibles" CCP, "if everyone is super then no one is!!" Also CCP, giving a player corp a free isk machine is beyond a bad idea, at least make it look like you had to earn your isk machine like the moons! Sad sad sad CCP. But if you are committed to free isks for corps, I'd like to point out Tada O is a very old and trusted corp in Eve, please just deposit our free rare swag in our museum hangar in Olo and I'll personally make sure it goes to the most worthy players in Eve at my earliest convenience! Issler
Ranger 1 Ranger Corp 4679	Posted - 2013.09.26 16:51:00 - [264] - Quote Alara IonStorm wrote: Ranger 1 wrote: In the case of the Gold Magnate there are no more left in game, so what exactly is the value of a non-existent ship? I am disappointed in you Ranger 1. For someone whom loves EVE as much as you do I figured you would be displeased at this in particular. The Gold Magnate is one of the best stories in EVE, that there once was a gold ship so valuable that they only made one just for it to be destroyed in a regular gate camp. It is something to want but never again own or grace our space again and one of the best pieces of EVE history, one that captivated me more then any other "special ship". Now it is being trounced out for a simple lottery... The Gold Magnate had its time in the sun, if there was but 1 ship for CCP to let it be it is this one. Let the story of the Gold Magnate remain a great EVE legend forever, not with an *Also release in random lottery. Don't get me wrong, I do believe that if a ship is specifically announced to be a "one time only, limited run" then CCP needs to stick to that. I don't like players finding hard won treasures devalued. This is not to be confused with a "special edition", which they are technically within their rights to produce again at a later date. But restricting it simply for the sake of LORE... no, no necessarily a fan of that. Lore continually grows and changes, and I've always been fond of the "It was thought there was only 1 prototype ever made of this legendary whatever... but another has been found gathering DUST in a hidden hanger owned by the original designer" type of story line. I do think people need to remember that the ISK generated is being turned around and funding prizes for the competitions at EVE Vega, not simply going into Blinks wallet. To carve a successful niche for yourself in EVE you need to be able to out sell, out produce, out fight,-á out run, or out wit your competitors. If you can do none of the above, your only option is to complain on the forums that somehow you are at a disadvantage using the exact same tool set-áas the rest of the player base.
Jaangel Cloak and Badgers 29	Posted - 2013.09.26 16:53:00 - [265] - Quote Sonmer blink being given anything is offensive but giving him something like a gold magnate really takes the biscuit. He is the biggest cruck in eve and should be banned not given more publicity
ElQuirko Jester Syndicate S0UTHERN C0MF0RT 1981	Posted - 2013.09.26 16:54:00 - [266] - Quote [quote=Ranger 1I do think people need to remember that the ISK generated is being turned around and funding prizes for the competitions at EVE Vega, not simply going into Blinks wallet.[/quote] No, this is for "community engagement". All blink ISK goes to SOMER, all items go to the players. They could just rip off CCP and CCP could do absolutely nothing. Save the Domi model! Spacewhales should be preserved.
Phoenus Habitual Euthanasia Pandemic Legion 108	Posted - 2013.09.26 16:54:00 - [267] - Quote CCP Goliath wrote: Hehe, how fitting that I should read this after posting about favouritism in a different thread. My personal take on it is this (note, this is not something we have discussed within the team): Events should be their own reward, but there are certain events that render a large impact on people and for these I do think there should be some kind of memento. An Imperial Apoc is NOT a mememto Seriously, we won't be bringing back the old unique ships for events. We might give other stuff away that is interesting, but no Guardian Vexor, Opux Luxury Yacht, Fedthron, Impoc, SIR, etc, etc. No ingame ships for events, but giving away ships for lotteries to earn ISK for a third party to CCP is apparently fine
Frostys Virpio Lame Corp Name 713	Posted - 2013.09.26 16:55:00 - [268] - Quote Ranger 1 wrote: I do think people need to remember that the ISK generated is being turned around and funding prizes for the competitions at EVE Vega, not simply going into Blinks wallet. And since it will not be possible to know how much isk was normal blink operation and how much was just because of that auction, then somer can basicly give any amount of money and noone will ever be able to prove they didn't give all they should. :CCP:
Ranger 1 Ranger Corp 4679	Posted - 2013.09.26 17:01:00 - [269] - Quote Frostys Virpio wrote: Ranger 1 wrote: I do think people need to remember that the ISK generated is being turned around and funding prizes for the competitions at EVE Vega, not simply going into Blinks wallet. And since it will not be possible to know how much isk was normal blink operation and how much was just because of that auction, then somer can basicly give any amount of money and noone will ever be able to prove they didn't give all they should. :CCP: Oh, I think CCP will have a pretty good idea. Sure, they could keep it all... and destroy their credibility with CCP and with the community in an incredibly high profile way. They would be literally chucking away their lucrative long term income stream for a (comparatively) tiny amount of ISK. Granted, they would have a certain notoriety afterwards which might appeal to some, but I have a hard time believing they would be so INCREDIBLY STUPID as to do what people are suggesting. Really, think about it folks. To carve a successful niche for yourself in EVE you need to be able to out sell, out produce, out fight,-á out run, or out wit your competitors. If you can do none of the above, your only option is to complain on the forums that somehow you are at a disadvantage using the exact same tool set-áas the rest of the player base.
Alara IonStorm 5365	Posted - 2013.09.26 17:03:00 - [270] - Quote Ranger 1 wrote: But restricting it simply for the sake of LORE... no, no necessarily a fan of that. Lore continually grows and changes, and I've always been fond of the "It was thought there was only 1 prototype ever made of this legendary whatever... but another has been found gathering DUST in a hidden hanger owned by the original designer" type of story line. What kind of story for this ship is random lottery. All it does is make it lose its legend, that is all. It immediately drops from the most unique ship to just another prize. They can repaint any new hull or they can give away something else but this, this kills the legend and gains nothing in return. CCP can and should do better than this. They should work to improve EVE History because that is what sets this game apart, one server, one history. You summed up the new place of the Gold Magnate in EVE history perfectly. Ranger 1 wrote: 1 prototype ever made of this legendary whatever Whatever indeed.

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