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Azaeren
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Posted - 2006.01.17 19:05:00 -
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Why is it that the last few CCP run events, been run in the BOB areas? The big Faction Battleship or dreadnaught a few months ago racing to serpentis prime, the big event that spawned in the popular chokepoint system to empire, and now the latest carrier event.
I understand that BOB is currently the largest alliance..but seriouslly. This is pretty lame for the rest of the players. Where are the big events up in syndicate near the 3FA/oss/5 areas? Where is the sansha events down in stain area? where are the guristas?
how about stop letting so many BOB event staff control where and when events take place. Nothing like giving their alliance some more "mad props guys! way to omgwtfpwn!" nonsense.
I could care less about which faction spawns where and for which OTHER alliances, but the constant BOB/fountain serpentis events are getting kind of ridiculous.
Now its time for all the BOB and BOB alts to start their flamefests. ------------------------------------------
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Toshiro Khan
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Posted - 2006.01.17 19:32:00 -
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Originally by: Azaeren
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That about sums up this post...
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Rift Scorn
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Posted - 2006.01.17 20:01:00 -
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Originally by: Azaeren ...I understand that BOB is currently the largest alliance...
We're not the largest alliance by a long shot. BoB has 916 pilots at todays count, ASCN have 2461. You do the math 
plz research your whining in more depth next time if you want anyone to listen seriously.
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pshepherd
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Posted - 2006.01.17 20:20:00 -
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Its the luck of the draw that the huge events happen there. Smaller events are happening all over empire, you just need to know where to look.
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Tachy
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Posted - 2006.01.17 23:15:00 -
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No turbulences predictable in those areas. Two sides with clear stances.
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sloany
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Posted - 2006.01.18 04:59:00 -
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Originally by: Azaeren Where is the sansha events down in stain area?
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theRaptor
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Posted - 2006.01.18 06:04:00 -
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And BoB didn't control Fountain when the Titan event happend IIRC. So I don't know what you are smoking.
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Andrommeda
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Posted - 2006.01.21 16:01:00 -
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damn BoB is cool _________________
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Joshua Foiritain
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Posted - 2006.01.21 16:08:00 -
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Ever wondered why Serpentis event is being held in Serpentis space? Obviously the recent serpentis events are part of an ongoing story so expect a lot more of those to take place in Fountain. Nobody is stopping you from going to fountain btw 
Ps: There seems to be a Sansha/Angel war brewing in ASCN space, are they using gm hax alts too?  -------------
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Gabriel BriGGs
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Posted - 2006.01.21 16:47:00 -
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Originally by: Joshua Foiritain Ever wondered why Serpentis event is being held in Serpentis space? Obviously the recent serpentis events are part of an ongoing story so expect a lot more of those to take place in Fountain. Nobody is stopping you from going to fountain btw 
Ps: There seems to be a Sansha/Angel war brewing in ASCN space, are they using gm hax alts too? 
meh. we went down to fountain last night. All we got was a nice spank from the lag and 2 long trips.. lol --------------------------------------------
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Moriel Damodred
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Posted - 2006.01.21 21:29:00 -
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Quote: Nobody is stopping you from going to fountain btw Wink
Cept bob-KOSing non-allies >< Everyone else had a sig and i felt lonly :( |

Sabaoth
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Posted - 2006.01.21 21:47:00 -
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First off the Serpentis events you speak are being executed by Aurora not CCP.
The event has nothing to do with who is the largest most powerful Corporation/Alliance it is to do with location. We run our larger events in what is known as ôArcsö which is a series of events/storyline leading up to a final conclusion of some kind. Currently we have a well progressed Serpentis Arc underway.
The Guristas Arc is still on-going and I believe I approved a few events for that Arc recently. As for the Sanshas we cannot do a major Arc for them as we have not been given permission to directly alter their aim. We can do single run events or a small Arc involving the Sanshas but nothing major, the biggest problem is the availability of Actors and Producers to do said events.
Originally by: Azaeren how about stop letting so many BOB event staff control where and when events take place.
BOB has no say when/where/who or how events take place.
The Aurora Leads & CCP decide that. BOB has sustained large losses in their endeavours with the Serpentis we are not here to give out ôfree omg uber stuffö to anyone, our main aim is to provide rich alive content which you can interact with on a regular basis and if you get rewards for your effort then so be it.
We do hope to have larger scale events like the Serpentis Arc running for the Guritas and other factions too but as I said before its down to the resources we have and currently we can only do so much with the Actors & Producers we have.
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Joshua Foiritain
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Posted - 2006.01.22 21:03:00 -
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Originally by: Moriel Damodred
Quote: Nobody is stopping you from going to fountain btw Wink
Cept bob-KOSing non-allies ><
Its making it difficult for people but they are in no way locked out from the event. -------------
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BOldMan
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Posted - 2006.01.30 07:34:00 -
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Originally by: Sabaoth BOB has sustained large losses in their endeavours with the Serpentis. We are not here to give out ôfree omg uber stuffö to anyone
When orbiting a mothership in inty with mwd at 15 km send you at 180km from time to time.
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j0sephine
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Posted - 2006.01.30 08:17:00 -
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"We are not here to give out ôfree omg uber stuffö to anyone, our main aim is to provide a rich alive content which you can interact with on a regular basis and if you get rewards for your effort then so be it."
Taking liberty to quote a very relevant (i think) post by Dukath, made in another forum section since i dunno if Event guys read things there ^^;;
"I think its good that these things start to happen and i hope that the event team sees these criticisms as constructive and helps them to make sure the events grow out to more fair and balanced events.
positive 1) On the plus side I like the fact that the event team is teaming up with real players. This lowers their reliability on having to spawn NPCs. 2) I like the fact that they use capital ships.
negative 1) Why in hells name on a sunday evening late at night? Friday evening, saturday evening, sunday during the day... but please stop doing these things when most of us have to prep to go to work the next day. 2) please be realistic in the gameplay. With this i mean use characters with normal skillpoints and gear. Sure you can use faction stuff but not every skilllevel needs to be at level 5. Use cynofields FFS. Spawning a capital fleet without any warning is just stupid. I know it takes a bit more work, having one event guy transport himself to 6 systems and setting up the fields, but it would make the event so muhc more realistic and at least give the other side a reasonable warning. 3) i heard rumours early in the day about G + serpentis attacking our POS. very nice, I assumed serpentis would bring in capital ships with G fleet being support and their own caps. Then G moves in, decides its not worth it and withdraws. That means that the serpentis fleet doesnt have their own support. So you should have been ****** when your allies leave you alone. Not simply spawn your own support fleet. Otherwise you completely unbalance the fights and give an unfair advantage to one side. Take it up with G for running and ruining the attack if that happens, don't just screw BoB by spawning more ships to your liking.
Please take these things into consideration for next event. Thanks"
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Ordep
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Posted - 2006.01.30 09:30:00 -
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Edited by: Ordep on 30/01/2006 09:34:25 WHAT FACTION STUFF ??
I only got crap loot 
Originally by: Sabaoth BOB has sustained large losses in their endeavours with the Serpentis. We are not here to give out ôfree omg uber stuffö to anyone
QFT
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Sabaoth
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Posted - 2006.01.30 15:52:00 -
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Thanks for quoting j0sephine I probably wouldnÆt have noticed it otherwise, well let me try and clear up a few things quickly.
1. Events are executed when the Senior Producer, Producer, Actors and Lead(s) are ready to do so. It is quite hard to get all the key people ready at the same place at the same time and especially at a time that suits you.
We try to execute events at a time when we know players are most active (after work/school). The thing to remember is the right time for you isnÆt going to be the right time for your Corp mate so we canÆt really win on that in that sense. Remember we are volunteers we donÆt get paid to sit around all day waiting for you to come online so we can execute the event although we still try to accommodate everyone when possible.
2. Character are ôSuperÆdö to maximum skill level because they are used for multiple events doing multiple tasks which may require a vast range for skills. It is a long process to get the character ôSuperÆdö so doing it once with max skills is essential I the streamlining process.
As for the spawning a Capital forceà IÆm not entirely sure what you mean there (I wasnÆt actually in the event). The Capital ships as far as IÆm aware were Aurora actors and there were only some NPCÆs spawned at a later point. We donÆt give warning about spawning NPCÆs because there is no need, why would the Serpentis tell you their battle plan? (Hold on a second we are calling for 20 Battleships to come in and kill you while we run) Ok an extreme comical example but it highlights my point that they have no need to tell you their intentions it doesnÆt benefit them to.
3. As I wasnÆt actually a part of the event I am a little hazy on all the details, if what you said did happen (which IÆm not denying) then IÆd be a little annoyed too and IÆm more than certain that the Serpentis wont take too kindly too that either (i.e. there could be retribution for G Alliance, thatÆs up to the SEP in charge of this Arc).
Thank you very much for the criticism it is welcomed and I hope I have explained some of your concerns.
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RogerWilco
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Posted - 2006.01.30 22:17:00 -
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the way the event ran today was excellent, off course there was lag, but besides that it was great...
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Proconsul Para
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Posted - 2006.01.31 00:24:00 -
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The post-reinforcement-mode assault was excellent.
Problem is, with the current state Tranquility is in, large events like this are only enjoyable as a whole. On the particular pilot/player level, there's alot of frustration. Regardless of the cap-ship to cap-ship fussilade, and even the BS to BS cannonade, the smaller support ships depend on speed and reflex actions in the greater fleet ballet. But when modules react after 10-20 seconds, ship won't respond to course changes, and warping to a fleet-fight sometimes ends with an empty-space screen and a trip to the cloning station of choice, the player in case doesn't have the opportunity to really enjoy the event. Add here the state the market is in: the long queues in some t2 ship production. The insane prices on the newest hardware, so on, so forth. End result: yeah, nice initiative, but I didn't enjoy it.
Of course, a "Thank you all, job nicely done" from Molle compensates a bit. But just a bit.
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theRaptor
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Posted - 2006.01.31 04:12:00 -
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Originally by: Sabaoth Thanks for quoting j0sephine I probably wouldnÆt have noticed it otherwise, well let me try and clear up a few things quickly.
1. Events are executed when the Senior Producer, Producer, Actors and Lead(s) are ready to do so. It is quite hard to get all the key people ready at the same place at the same time and especially at a time that suits you.
We try to execute events at a time when we know players are most active (after work/school). The thing to remember is the right time for you isnÆt going to be the right time for your Corp mate so we canÆt really win in that sense. Remember we are volunteers we donÆt get paid to sit around all day waiting for you to come online so we can execute the event although we still try to accommodate everyone when possible.
Horse pucky. You held these events in evening Euro time. That is normal. But you did it on Sunday and Monday evening, not everyone in BoB is a student bum like me who can stay up all night to fight when called. If you wanted the event held when the maximum number of people where online you would have held it on Friday or Saturday evening. We had to rally the troops on Monday because you put our POS in reinforced, anyone could have wondered along and killed it if we hadn't of sat guarding it for hours. Use common sense.
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Dukath
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Posted - 2006.02.04 08:13:00 -
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Well I was a bit ****ed about missing the event on sunday evening. We scrambled to defend from an incoming G fleet and there were rumours about serpentis joining them. So after G decided not to come and turned back, and it being sunday evening i decided to log. Only to find out about it the next day at work :(
But again, I do like the fact that more players are involved. I do like it that events, not really help, but maybe better said cooperate with player fleets. And I'd love for other regions to get the same chance later. (PS: consider it a bonus that the event team gets to test out what is possible and what isn't on someone else so that by the time the event happens in your backyard the little problems are fixed)
I see these events not only as fun for many people but it could also be a balancing point in the game. I'm pretty sure angels don't like the player alliances in their space, especially not if one becomes too strong in the region. So then its only logical for them to contact other alliances to help and attack. I'm sure they don't like player POSes in a system with their complexes. So its logical for them to attack those POSes. (yes i actually believe POSes can die during an event, altough the mayor effort should be done by players, aided by event in small ways (a dread or 2 maybe a carrier, depending on the fleet the players are bringing themselves), not the other way round.
So the event organising a hostile fleet with the promise of helping with a few ships is perfectly acceptable to me. Although information needs to leak out to give the 'victims' a chance to prepare. Doesn't have to be anything concrete but some hints in the news or smaller events beforehand, or even a serpentis ship getting killed by the POS guns so the killmail can make you believe serpentis are scouting out your POS defenses)
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Corp Scammer
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Posted - 2006.02.04 11:54:00 -
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how about a seperentis force going after a gurista invader force ? barring that around downtime for us prime time aussies we miss a lot of the goods stuff - whats happening with the intaki region nothing here same goes for blood raiders and sansha areas. We need some sort of notification system for all players that an event is under way or some sort of offical post on teh events channel event is now underway and its up to all the players to gather intel from alliacnes and other means
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dabster
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Posted - 2006.02.06 13:59:00 -
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On a complete sidenote npc's have been spawned in events a lot of times and way back in time. Serpentis used it in Fountain during events pre the jovian vist from Misu something (dude who blew up)
So it was atleast at an estimate 12-18 months ago npc's were spawned during and before a bigger event battle. ___________________________ Brutors Rule! My Eve-vids; Click. |

DB Preacher
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Posted - 2006.02.12 23:27:00 -
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I think the word spawning was misinterpreted here...
The Capital ships initially had simply appeared inside the system with no warning as to where and when they were going to appear.
NPC's were then spawned, correctly ofc, to cover these capital ships.
It was the initial appearance of the capital ships with no cyno field that was the shock, however, I believe this had been fixed in more recent events (might be wrong there though).
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Garia666
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Posted - 2006.02.13 10:12:00 -
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well he got a big point there..
Would be nice to get multiple events on several locations..
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SinBin
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Posted - 2006.02.16 11:15:00 -
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ow i just posted simalr but without the assuming its BoB gms running it for um, them GM is to busy replacing there ships & causing enermy lag to do events as well.
Still agree that to many event in 1 location & not even in other serpentis controled space is gwetting a little annoying & suspect offcorse _______________________________________
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Joshua Foiritain
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Posted - 2006.02.16 14:30:00 -
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Originally by: SinBin Still agree that to many event in 1 location & not even in other serpentis controled space is gwetting a little annoying & suspect offcorse
So where is this other part of space that serpentis owns too, is it right next to the Unicorn lands?  -------
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SinBin
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Posted - 2006.02.16 15:40:00 -
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Originally by: Joshua Foiritain
Originally by: SinBin Still agree that to many event in 1 location & not even in other serpentis controled space is gwetting a little annoying & suspect offcorse
So where is this other part of space that serpentis owns too, is it right next to the Unicorn lands? 
You brain is so big its almost scary for me, try reading the op rather then trying to look smart quoting something I wrote witch you didnt understand with your massive brain.
" Where are the big events up in syndicate near the 3FA/oss/5 areas? "
Forum idiots FTL.
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