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Jackie Arkaral
Imperial Academy
Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2013.09.26 21:01:00 -
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AmI the only one that has an issue with HI Sec POCOs? The comment on the announcement was that if a corporation set the tax rate too high, that was fine. People would just go elsewhere.
What happens when a large nullsec alliance decides that they want to shut down hisec PI for "fun" and sets the rate to 100% across 100's of systems. |
Grozen
Titan Core
13
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Posted - 2013.09.26 21:03:00 -
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Jackie Arkaral wrote:AmI the only one that has an issue with HI Sec POCOs? The comment on the announcement was that if a corporation set the tax rate too high, that was fine. People would just go elsewhere.
What happens when a large nullsec alliance decides that they want to shut down hisec PI for "fun" and sets the rate to 100% across 100's of systems.
then we will just have to adapt to the new prices, which also mean modules which said alliances use will become as expensive as the taxes they put on carebears.So its a win win situation nobody has the upper hand.
knowledge is power. |
Weaselior
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
4955
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Posted - 2013.09.26 21:26:00 -
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Jackie Arkaral wrote:AmI the only one that has an issue with HI Sec POCOs? The comment on the announcement was that if a corporation set the tax rate too high, that was fine. People would just go elsewhere.
What happens when a large nullsec alliance decides that they want to shut down hisec PI for "fun" and sets the rate to 100% across 100's of systems.
:sun: |
Lord Zim
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Posted - 2013.09.26 21:26:00 -
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We're a kind and benevolent POCO master. There's nothing to worry about.
Cyno's lit, bridge is up, but one pilot won't be jumping home.
RIP Vile Rat |
Aryth
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
1173
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Posted - 2013.09.26 21:26:00 -
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Jackie Arkaral wrote:AmI the only one that has an issue with HI Sec POCOs? The comment on the announcement was that if a corporation set the tax rate too high, that was fine. People would just go elsewhere.
What happens when a large nullsec alliance decides that they want to shut down hisec PI for "fun" and sets the rate to 100% across 100's of systems.
I totally don't already have a plan that involves milking highsec for tears and or ISK.
The proceeding statement is totally a lie.
Leader of the Goonswarm Economic Warfare Cabal - Want to follow the latest scandals? @EVEAryth |
Promiscuous Female
GBS Logistics and Fives Support
Goonswarm Federation
220
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Posted - 2013.09.26 21:27:00 -
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I am pleased to announce that starting in november, all highsec planetary customs offices will be owned by GBS LOGISTICS AND FIVES SUPPORT [MY 5S]. Tax rates are expected to be punitive. |
Sixx Spades
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
150
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Posted - 2013.09.26 21:27:00 -
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Miniluv says hi.
Using a weapon as a deterrent in a diplomatic situation is only viable when you have proven that you have deployed it in the past and are willing to use it in the future. |
Orion Moonstar
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2013.09.26 21:28:00 -
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I will be happy to make an exception for your corp for a modest fee. |
Rhes
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
243
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Posted - 2013.09.26 21:28:00 -
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Jackie Arkaral wrote:AmI the only one that has an issue with HI Sec POCOs? The comment on the announcement was that if a corporation set the tax rate too high, that was fine. People would just go elsewhere.
What happens when a large nullsec alliance decides that they want to shut down hisec PI for "fun" and sets the rate to 100% across 100's of systems.
Today is a good day.
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Krios Ahzek
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
925
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Posted - 2013.09.26 21:28:00 -
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Jackie Arkaral wrote:AmI the only one that has an issue with HI Sec POCOs? The comment on the announcement was that if a corporation set the tax rate too high, that was fine. People would just go elsewhere.
What happens when a large nullsec alliance decides that they want to shut down hisec PI for "fun" and sets the rate to 100% across 100's of systems.
In time, you will come to love your new masters.
-áThough All Men Do Despise Us |
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Petya Gladiator
Enlightened Industries
Goonswarm Federation
1
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Posted - 2013.09.26 21:28:00 -
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Im looking forward to this... |
pmchem
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
617
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Posted - 2013.09.26 21:28:00 -
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today just owns
@pmchem on twitter || GARPA || Goonswarm Economic Warfare Cabal |
MeLoveVeldLongTime
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
9
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Posted - 2013.09.26 21:29:00 -
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Hey howed you get your hands on our super top secret plans? |
admiral root
Red Galaxy
SpaceMonkey's Alliance
573
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Posted - 2013.09.26 21:29:00 -
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I don't understand what the OP's issue is.
No, your rights end in optimal+2*falloff |
Blawrf McTaggart
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
1713
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Posted - 2013.09.26 21:29:00 -
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Don't worry Goonswarm has a long and hallowed tradition of never screwing in highsec matters. |
Andrea Solaris
Thunderwaffe
Goonswarm Federation
2
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Posted - 2013.09.26 21:29:00 -
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Aryth wrote:Jackie Arkaral wrote:AmI the only one that has an issue with HI Sec POCOs? The comment on the announcement was that if a corporation set the tax rate too high, that was fine. People would just go elsewhere.
What happens when a large nullsec alliance decides that they want to shut down hisec PI for "fun" and sets the rate to 100% across 100's of systems. I totally don't already have a plan that involves milking highsec for tears and or ISK. The proceeding statement is totally a lie.
I am anxiously awaiting the lie.
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vilya novacat
McKenna Shipyards
Goonswarm Federation
5
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Posted - 2013.09.26 21:29:00 -
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Aryth wrote:Jackie Arkaral wrote:AmI the only one that has an issue with HI Sec POCOs? The comment on the announcement was that if a corporation set the tax rate too high, that was fine. People would just go elsewhere.
What happens when a large nullsec alliance decides that they want to shut down hisec PI for "fun" and sets the rate to 100% across 100's of systems. I totally don't already have a plan that involves milking highsec for tears and or ISK. The proceeding statement is totally a lie.
So deservingly smug. |
Qris
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
4
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Posted - 2013.09.26 21:30:00 -
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Jackie Arkaral wrote:What happens when a large nullsec alliance decides that they want to shut down hisec PI for "fun" and sets the rate to 100% across 100's of systems.
Then we have our fun at your expense, as it should be! |
Shaun Hansen
Corporation Danmark
Tactical Narcotics Team
0
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Posted - 2013.09.26 21:30:00 -
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Haha!
Comon guys, we can do it. Let Mittens authorize a HS Poco Interdiction. We'll frakkin **** them all  |
Tallian Saotome
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
1006
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Posted - 2013.09.26 21:30:00 -
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Grozen wrote:Jackie Arkaral wrote:AmI the only one that has an issue with HI Sec POCOs? The comment on the announcement was that if a corporation set the tax rate too high, that was fine. People would just go elsewhere.
What happens when a large nullsec alliance decides that they want to shut down hisec PI for "fun" and sets the rate to 100% across 100's of systems. then we will just have to adapt to the new prices, which also mean modules which said alliances use will become as expensive as the taxes they put on carebears.So its a win win situation nobody has the upper hand.
This really is true. Most PI stuff goes to fuel nullsec POS arrays and make the POS equipment that we need. Taxes get raised, you charge more for the stuff you make, it is simple economics.
Also, I am pretty sure that player owned POCOs have a cap on how high you can set the tax, so there is also a limit there.
Have faith, we may end up owning all of the POCOs, but we won't shut you down!
Inappropriate signature removed, CCP Phantom. |
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Jon Lucien
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
16
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Posted - 2013.09.26 21:32:00 -
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Weaselior wrote:Jackie Arkaral wrote:AmI the only one that has an issue with HI Sec POCOs? The comment on the announcement was that if a corporation set the tax rate too high, that was fine. People would just go elsewhere.
What happens when a large nullsec alliance decides that they want to shut down hisec PI for "fun" and sets the rate to 100% across 100's of systems. :sun:
I can see clearly now, the rain is gone.
I can see all obstacles in my way.
Gone are the dark clouds that held me back.
It's gonna be a bright, bright, bright sunshiny day! |
Zaepho
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
17
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Posted - 2013.09.26 21:32:00 -
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Confirming Goonswarm will be taking all High-Sec POCOs to save everyone from the torture of High-Sec PI |
Katie Corb
Bat Country
Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2013.09.26 21:33:00 -
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Don't listen to my mean-spirited brethren; buy a vouch into Bat Country today for 500m, and never have to worry about being taken for all of your hard earned isk by the goons.
:darkelf: |
Themick Mccoy
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Posted - 2013.09.26 21:33:00 -
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Jackie Arkaral wrote:AmI the only one that has an issue with HI Sec POCOs? The comment on the announcement was that if a corporation set the tax rate too high, that was fine. People would just go elsewhere.
What happens when a large nullsec alliance decides that they want to shut down hisec PI for "fun" and sets the rate to 100% across 100's of systems.
Stop being lazy and go shoot the offending poco(s)? It's not realistically possible to shut down every system in highsec. That is too many planets to cover.
My new goal is to bubble a super....but who is going to kill it for me? |
Chad Wylder
Pator Tech School
Minmatar Republic
5
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Posted - 2013.09.26 21:33:00 -
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Jackie Arkaral wrote:What happens when a large nullsec alliance decides that they want to shut down hisec PI for "fun" and sets the rate to 100% across 100's of systems.
According to the stream the solution is to rocket launch.
Which has a much smaller amount that can be launched at a time and a higher tax than current HS customs offices.
I'm not sure what CCP is going for with this (I guess more conflict), but basically HS PI will just stop completely, assuming HS POCOs will only be attackable when you're at war with the owner. (if they're attackable outside of war then that's even worse and will just kill HS PI faster, but again I'm assuming you have to be at war)
Initially people will be going around shooting down Interbus Customs Offices to set up their own POCOs. Cool, going according to plan.
Larger corps will start taking over entire systems, constellations, and eventually regions, booting out the customs offices set up by smaller corps. Again, cool. It's conflict.
Some smaller corps will hang on to their POCOs for a little while, but eventually having a HS POCO with a small corp will just be a war magnet and not at all worth it. (Cheap war and you'll either get a fight from the defenders, or you'll get some POCOs on your killboard + tears.)
The larger corps/alliances however will still be costly to wardec. They will be wardecc'd undoubtedly, but probably not anymore than they currently are. Even worse, a lot of these larger corps/alliances will be nullsec based, and won't actually care about their HS POCOs except as free tax income. (they don't have to do anything for upkeep and if anyone wants to do PI "safely" they either have to rocket launch, which is useless as a longterm solution, or they pay taxes to... well basically goons since they'll setup some PI interdiction campaign.
So eventually most HS planets will either have a POCO for a nullsec alliance that isn't actually running PI, just collecting taxes, or the planet will have no customs office at all and there will be no point in setting one up since it will be wardecc'd and taken down long before you recover the investment.
So yeah, basically no more hisec PI. I have no idea what CCP wants to do with this, but whatever it is I really doubt it's going to work. There won't be more conflict, just less PI and a new Nullsec passive income source.
Wormhole PI on the other hand will probably become even more lucrative, so it's not all bad. |
Wasse
Eternity INC.
Goonswarm Federation
17
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Posted - 2013.09.26 21:33:00 -
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The real question is will the null-sec alliances be able to put aside their differences to divy up different portions of high-sec.
If so, well, lol. Sorry high-sec.
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Grozen
Titan Core
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Posted - 2013.09.26 21:34:00 -
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The bulk of PI goods comes from WHs not hi-sec or 0.0.If you want to shutdown pi you need to get into whs.Most pocos there are not even owned by corps.
knowledge is power. |
Chinicata Shihari
Eternity INC.
Goonswarm Federation
12
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Posted - 2013.09.26 21:35:00 -
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It's not like miniluv had already thought of this idea or anything... |
Weynard
Sigillum Militum Xpisti
Fatal Ascension
4
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Posted - 2013.09.26 21:39:00 -
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**** Hisec. Burn it all. |
Varius Xeral
Galactic Trade Syndicate
1208
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Posted - 2013.09.26 21:40:00 -
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OMG THE SKY IS FALLING!
Once the, admittedly hilarious, tear extraction value tapers off, nullsec alliances will largely leave hisec pocos alone.
Official Representative of The Nullsec Zealot Cabal |
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