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Phelan Lore	Posted - 2006.01.21 18:34:00 - [31] Originally by: KilROCK Edited by: KilROCK on 19/01/2006 15:44:39 Originally by: Phelan Lore I've been using this for running belts... 4 150mm II small diminishing nos cold gas MWD 7.5 scrambler N-type energised kinetic N-type energised explosive small rep II gyro II This with Energized reactive/magnetic membrane II and level 4 armor compensation > n-types. Just need 2pg more on the setup, which is available. I love Barrage S btw. N-type = 20cpu energised II = 30cpu ________________ ~Phelan Lore Your isk has become my isk, by way of my actions...
Zippy Pinno	Posted - 2006.01.21 21:06:00 - [32] I dont like ACs because im to lazy to do all the logistics for ammo H: 4 x t2 280mm M: t2 AB, fleeting webber L: t2 small armor rep, N-Type reactive membrane, Internal Force Field I, MAPC (yuk!) I have come to think that ons of the Wolf's best features is its great shield resistances - i try to boost them even further with the damage control.
Swiftness	Posted - 2006.01.21 22:06:00 - [33] my NPCing wolf (sansha) 4 * medium modulated pulse (multifrequency) AB \| web small armor rep \| faction heat sinks hate the ammo use on autocannons :(
OverKill	Posted - 2006.01.22 15:47:00 - [34] Originally by: Sarmaul Originally by: Trelik Originally by: Phelan Lore I've been using this for running belts... 4 150mm II small diminishing nos cold gas MWD 7.5 scrambler N-type energised kinetic N-type energised explosive small rep II gyro II how the heck do you fit that CPU ? it fits with 0.79 cpu spare. Meh, I couldn't get it to fit... like 20-25 CPU short and I've got some decent skills behind me so you must be using different modules than what is listed. OverKill - Often immitated, but never duplicated - Accept no substitute
Trelennen	Posted - 2006.01.22 15:54:00 - [35] Originally by: OverKill Meh, I couldn't get it to fit... like 20-25 CPU short and I've got some decent skills behind me so you must be using different modules than what is listed. 5.75 CPU short if using said setup with a warp scrambler I. Will fit with 0.25 CPU left using a Faint Epsilon Warp Prohibitor I (24 CPU instead of 30 CPU). If you're 20-25 CPU short, you prolly don't have electronics 5. Don't see how he gets 0.74 free CPU though . ===== !!! Fix SB - Love for AFs - Fix drones AI !!!
OverKill	Posted - 2006.01.22 16:00:00 - [36] I do have Electronics V however he must have Shield Upgrades V or some other Engineering skill that I may not have at that level. Either that or Quickfit is hiccuping and not up to date for me. OverKill - Often immitated, but never duplicated - Accept no substitute
Trelennen	Posted - 2006.01.22 16:18:00 - [37] Originally by: OverKill I do have Electronics V however he must have Shield Upgrades V or some other Engineering skill that I may not have at that level. Either that or Quickfit is hiccuping and not up to date for me. Well, I don't see what would shield uprades do to that setup . Be careful when you try to fit with quickfit: that setup uses n-type energized, not regular ones. They use 20 CPU vs 30 CPU for the regular ones. That could explain why you're 20-25 CPU short. PS: I did checked with quickfit too, and besides weapon upgrades and electronics, I don't see which skill would affect the CPU on this setup . ===== !!! Fix SB - Love for AFs - Fix drones AI !!!
OverKill	Posted - 2006.01.22 16:23:00 - [38] You're right... Shield Upgrades IV to V would only reduce powergrid requirements by 5%. For some reason I thought it was CPU. Regardless, I'll have to do the match actually ingame cause I think Quickfit is borked on this matter (ie: the energized versus regular) Thanks for the help though, just playing with setups looking for something new on my Wolf. OverKill - Often immitated, but never duplicated - Accept no substitute
Slink Grinsdikild	Posted - 2006.01.22 23:23:00 - [39] Barrage on an Autowolf is almost a must have item. You lack the nimble finesse of a Claw. Getting into orbit where EMP S does full damage can take forever, especially if you're plated or lack a Webifier. That fallof bonus on Barrage allows you to kill stuff you would otherwise be running from. My setup is the same as Testy's, it gets posted a lot but here is my version: 4x 150mm II /w Barrage S 1x Knave Nos (Or Diminishing if you're a rich slag) 1x MWD II 1x Fleeting Warp Scrambler (Less cap use) 1x Small Armor Repairer II 1x 400mm Rolled Tungsten Plate 1x Micro Aux Power Core 1x Gyrostabilizer II Costs about 21,000,000 ISK in total, ship included. Thats around the market price of a Harpy.
OrangeAfroMan	Posted - 2006.01.23 05:57:00 - [40] I like the idea of the "Imo, the singular best PvP Wolf out there - whether it be solo or gang - is the AC/MWD/400mm plate setup. Its evil. Edit: 150mm ACs with an MAPC, that is." That testy mctest posted, however i would switch the MWD for an AB... But, heres what i have on right now, actually two variants.. (btw i only have electronics III so i cant put the Nos in the high slot yet) Variant 1: Highs: 1x 250mm Scout 2x 150mm Auto 1x 200mm Auto (or 3 150s) 1x Nos Meds: 1x Webber (fleeting) 1x Scrambler (NAMED!) Lows: 1x (named) Repair-er 2x Gyrostabalizer 1x (accuracy kind of gyro) The last low slot is kinda arbitrary... Many of you may be saying "Wtf is with the 250??" Well, I like the versatility of having 20km range if i need it.. and it gives me something to do while closing the distance :) Variant 2 is essentially the same except with 2x 200mms, 2x 150mms, and that arbitrary low is even more arbitrary :) Thoughts?
Brutozaurus	Posted - 2006.01.23 11:21:00 - [41] high: 4x200mm t2 + rocket launcher med: mwd + web(in gang you can setup scrambler) low: small accamod rep. + 400mm rolled tungsten + gyro t2 + micro aux
BANDID	Posted - 2006.01.23 11:33:00 - [42] 4x200mt2 t2rockl or arb rockl ab t2 x5 web small arm rep2 mapc kin hard 400rt t2 ammo init kills most dont put a mwd on a wolf kills ure cap like a ***** with the 400rt u have about 1600hp on armor any interceptor will die real fast tanks most of the other af's really good exp res is allways the prob so pick ure fight with the DOT of the 4x 200t2 and the arb with exp rockets or defenders init u can kill lots of peeps just know what u are doing and u will make lots of kills with this baby without getting killed
Germain	Posted - 2006.01.23 13:10:00 - [43] i am thinking about a wolf as PvP bship support ship. and for ).) NPCing 200mmt2/nos weber/sensor damper lows to fit and amor tank.rep what do you think? the sensor damper is becuse everyone says the resistance's are not hat good so i figure that if they cann hit me i will be ok.
Dark Eulogy	Posted - 2006.03.12 00:44:00 - [44] Howies or ACs for NPCing? MWD or AC?
Octavio Santillian	Posted - 2006.03.12 21:53:00 - [45] I like the wolf, but for PvP it has one primary role, one at which that it excels. A wolf is a Point Defense ship for larger ships in fleet battles. It can one-volley pop most tacklers at 20K or more with 280s. ThatÆs its primary role in PvP. It has too many design gaps otherwise. Not that itÆs a bad PvP ship, but if you come up against someone with similar skills in any of a host of other ships, you are at a big disadvantage because it does not have enough mids to shield tank, and it has a bad resistance set up for armor tanking. ItÆs still a good PvE ship though. In my opinion, the Jag is a better ship for smaller PvP engagements. First, it is crazy fast for an assault ship. Second, the Matari assaults have very good base shield resistances, and the Jag has enough mids to do a reasonable shield tank (you can even think of damage control and PDU as mid slot 3.5). Third, it does reasonable damage with T2 ACs. Moreover, it cost 10M less isk, so if you loose it, it doesnÆt hurt as much. The main thing with a Jag, is you have to make choices between putting on a really good shild tank, or putting in web and/or AB/MWD, and using your lows to help out the shield tanking.
Octavio Santillian	Posted - 2006.03.13 06:30:00 - [46] Originally by: Octavio Santillian Edited by: Octavio Santillian on 13/03/2006 00:22:00 Edited by: Octavio Santillian on 13/03/2006 00:21:26 I like the wolf, but for PvP it has one primary role, one at which it excels. A wolf is a Point Defense ship for larger ships in fleet battles. It can one-volley most tacklers at 20K or more with 280s. ThatÆs its primary role in PvP. It has too many design gaps otherwise. Not that itÆs a bad PvP ship, but if you come up against someone with similar skills in any of a host of other ships, you are at a big disadvantage because it does not have enough mids to shield tank, and it has a bad resistance set up for armor tanking. ItÆs still a good PvE ship though. In my opinion, the Jag is a better ship for smaller PvP engagements. First, it is crazy fast for an assault ship. Second, the Matari assaults have very good base shield resistances, and the Jag has enough mids to do a reasonable shield tank (you can even think of damage control and PDU as mid slot 3.5). Third, it does reasonable damage with T2 ACs. Moreover, it cost 10M less isk, so if you loose it, it doesnÆt hurt as much. The main thing with a Jag, is you have to make choices between putting on a really good shild tank, or putting in web and/or AB/MWD, and using your lows to help out the shield tanking. Edit: You know, after playing around with fittings some more, I might retract what I said. It had been a while since I fit both ships out, and IÆm finding it to be a hard call between the two of them for PvP. I think IÆd give the wolf the nod now. Jury is still out though (and IÆve not tried the 150s with 400 plate setup).
Dark Eulogy	Posted - 2006.03.20 21:43:00 - [47] Using the following for .3 ratting 4x 'scout' 150AC I's Knave nos named AB langour web 200mm RT plate small ia pol rep exp passive hard kin passive hard any suggestions? can JUST fit all that
Still Hart	Posted - 2006.03.20 21:55:00 - [48] Haven't seen this setup mentioned yet. It's pretty sick, IMHO, although I mainly use it for ratting in 0.0 against Angels. The damage output is awesome. 4x 250mm II 1x ABII, 1x SBII 1x Tracker II, 2x Gyro II, 1x Co-proc (named) I can just barely fit this stuff. When I get my AWU skills up I can replace with 280mm and maybe fit a NOS or RL just in case. what do you guys think?
Triscuit	Posted - 2006.03.21 07:03:00 - [49] How does this sound for 0.0 ratting vs. angels? I can't actually fly Minmatar elite frigs yet but I will fairly soon. 4x 150/200mm AC II w/ fusion 1x small nos 1x afterburner II 1x small shield booster II 3x gyro II 1x damage control (extra boost of shield reists) Good? Horrible? I'm sure ammo consumption would be crazy, but that's expected.
Tiuwaz	Posted - 2006.03.21 07:17:00 - [50] dont shield tank a wolf plz it got nearly twice as much armour hp then shield 3x 150mm II nos AB II webber Small AR II, energized kinetic plating II, energized explosive plating II, 200mm armour plate (personally i'd use t1/named/faction energized platings (explosive/kinetic) this will free up enough cpu to equip a gyro II instead of armour plate ) Originally by: Oveur ****! Lets nerf it! To the nerfmobile!
Shadow Mancer	Posted - 2006.03.21 07:56:00 - [51] lol Octavio - the best sig u got there buddy. LMAO...actually was wondering if u see any wolves in there? hehehehe Long Live Warriors
Dark Eulogy	Posted - 2006.03.21 11:48:00 - [52] Tiu that is the same stup I have The Gyro II is better than 200mm RT plate?
Tiuwaz	Posted - 2006.03.22 01:08:00 - [53] Edited by: Tiuwaz on 22/03/2006 01:12:28 Originally by: Dark Eulogy Tiu that is the same stup I have The Gyro II is better than 200mm RT plate? it really depends what you do , but for mission running etc i'd use the gyro over the plate unless you have troubles tanking for pvp i'd always take the plate Originally by: Oveur ****! Lets nerf it! To the nerfmobile!
Madswede	Posted - 2006.03.24 10:27:00 - [54] I have a crazy one I use for camping small targets: 4x280 Artillery T2, empty slot 2xSensor Boosters 3xGyrostab T2 and whatever in the remaining slot Slow, no tank, but locks fast and hits very hard and thats what you need in these situations. ----------------------------------------------
Antwon Stylez	Posted - 2006.04.03 06:13:00 - [55] THE BEST WOLF SET UP (solo PVP) Hi: 1x standard launcher, 2x gatling pulse I, 1x 150mm ac Med: 1x Shield Recharger I, 1x Cap Battery Lows: 3x MAPC, 1x Mag field stabalizer I killed a reaper in this set up before it was pretty stable and the different types of guns makes it hard to tank for. The mag field stab doesnt do **** but makes me feel cool. The shield recharger I helps recharge the shield faster without a shield recharger (solves the cap problem along with the cap battery) This is how pathetic all these set ups are :D o/
Zysco	Posted - 2006.04.03 07:09:00 - [56] Originally by: Still Hart Haven't seen this setup mentioned yet. It's pretty sick, IMHO, although I mainly use it for ratting in 0.0 against Angels. The damage output is awesome. 4x 250mm II 1x ABII, 1x SBII 1x Tracker II, 2x Gyro II, 1x Co-proc (named) I can just barely fit this stuff. When I get my AWU skills up I can replace with 280mm and maybe fit a NOS or RL just in case. what do you guys think? callon > I don't like traveling much, i think its cause my father used to beat me with a globe. http://oldforums.eveonline.com/?a=topic&threadID=300438New vid: "we're back
Akip	Posted - 2006.04.03 07:17:00 - [57] My PvE setup: 4x 125mm t2, 1 small NOS 1AB t2, Gist-X Small Shield Booster 3x Gyro t2, Nanofiber it fits (0 CPU left) :) and kills quite fast I can run SB and AB for long time with NOS. -------- Akip Your 720mm Howitzer Artillery II perfectly strikes Watch Post, wrecking for 1557.5 damage.
LUKEC	Posted - 2006.04.03 07:17:00 - [58] fleet... 4x 280mm t2 web x2 small rep, 2x dmg mod, cpu No plate = dead stuff in 1 volley. Possibly good with med. shield extender if you manage to fit one. Die, die, die.
SiLeNCel2	Posted - 2006.04.03 09:23:00 - [59] Originally by: Ivan Ho If u have no web ceptors can scrambel u and orbit at watever range and you are wtf dead, and if you are going with 280mm use 2 webs and u get job done. Or the target warps out, as you have no scrambler. in that case, ur lucky!
wierchas noobhunter	Posted - 2006.04.03 09:42:00 - [60] 150mm > 200mm ac

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