terror starting November 19!

The beginning of the end of the true sandbox ?

You are right, Harry. I already packed all my stuff and will be moving back to high-sec. You won. Good game, sir, good game.

Boredom starting November 20th.

now you are sad you don't get free ships but harry gets his mini nukes

You are right, Harry. I already packed all my stuff and will be moving back to high-sec. You won. Good game, sir, good game.

the end for the invunerable theme park

Not empty quoting.

Null for those that can, not those that just follow the band.

WoW is that way -->

And wormholes for those that like to poke the giants, then sit back and blueball you while getting excessively drunk on comms.

best part, while they whine and beg for free stuff, I will burn down their stations

I wouldn't get too excited. I doubt blowing up stations is what they had in mind.

I am still waiting for high sec T2 industry to be handed to null sec.
Then again, I figure now that the high sec POCO thing was just the first step.
Why ban T2 mfg in high sec when you are planning on making the high sec NPC stations conquerable, and after the summer release, the null sec cartels will control all the high sec mfg slots?

I wouldn't get too excited. I doubt blowing up stations is what they had in mind.

Dinsdale, why are you playing this game? And it is not for trolling reasons, I am genuinely curious about it.

If you are right and there is big conspiracy of "cartels" and CCP against hisec you are just whistleblower that nobody listens and everybody makes fun of and you cannot do anything to prevent it. In fact this is also true if you are wrong, nobody listens, everybody laughs and you are fighting with imaginary enemy.

Either way it is not an environment I would call leisure time especially that you have to pay for it. So why?

Masochism

Harry:

Maybe the idea of Guerilla-style tactics referred to the EAF extended range, and the nerfed acceleration and agility of large ships relative to small ships, and the buffed inty.

Or the ability to ninja steal moon goon with the siphon modules.

Of course, that is just pure marketing garbage.
Small squads will still not be able inflict any real damage on the cartels, as even if they can tackle something big, by the time they can inflict enough damage on a large target to truly threaten it, the large target can still batphone for tons of support.

As for siphoning tons of moon goo from the cartels, you still have to be able to get in, and then get out. Many of the lucrative moons are well beyond any jump capabilities of ships, and even if they were in jump range, sorry, jumping a squad in of 10 billion worth of BLOP's is NOT what I would call Guerilla class tactics, or cost.

If CCP had followed through with moon goo ring mining, and the ability to ninja-mine a whole ring in short order, that would be more hurtful towards the cartels. But the cartels quashed that concept fast.

No, this release is just more of the same.
Null sec gets a bigger chunk of the high sec income, as they will quickly control all the lucrative planets in high sec.

I am still waiting for high sec T2 industry to be handed to null sec.
Then again, I figure now that the high sec POCO thing was just the first step.
Why ban T2 mfg in high sec when you are planning on making the high sec NPC stations conquerable, and after the summer release, the null sec cartels will control all the high sec mfg slots?

Guerilla-style Warfare Support - Tactics to chip away at the behemoths have surfaced, allowing small fleets of mercenaries, saboteurs and troublemakers to become cause for concern for even the most reinforced of alliance strongholds.

this is too good to be true, we need bombs to deploy on their station! blasting those alliances to heaven!

nullsec theme park will burn! solo pilots will lead the new millenium!... grillparty starting November 19!

provide us some serious stuff here to shakeup those nullsec teddybears!

You are right, Harry. I already packed all my stuff and will be moving back to high-sec. You won. Good game, sir, good game.

Masochism

Nah, it can't be that simple.

Dinsdale, why are you playing this game? And it is not for trolling reasons, I am genuinely curious about it.

If you are right and there is big conspiracy of "cartels" and CCP against hisec you are just whistleblower that nobody listens and everybody makes fun of and you cannot do anything to prevent it. In fact this is also true if you are wrong, nobody listens, everybody laughs and you are fighting with imaginary enemy.

Either way it is not an environment I would call leisure time especially that you have to pay for it. So why?

best part, while they whine and beg for free stuff, I will burn down their stations

Masochism

That is the day I dream of. When someone in a position of power says "No more, null sec cartels and your acolytes, no more. Your days of wrecking the game for your own gain is over."

best part, while they whine and beg for free stuff, I will burn down their stations

Recently we have seen a few people leave CCP that were instrumental in the attacks against high sec. Whether those positions are backfilled with more people of the same ilk is likely, but NOT set in stone. We have also seen a couple people hired from EA that are more far more likely interested in growing the subscription base as opposed to catering to the null sec cartels. (do you know how awful things have got that I consider EA exec's the saviours of Eve?)

If you put those things together, there is a small chance, albeit a tiny one, that if enough people like me continue to expose the underlying reasons for why the game is being destroyed for the majority of players, then maybe, just maybe, in the near future, the right person in power might read a post, look at the subscription rates, and say, "hey, this current model is nuts".

That is the day I dream of. When someone in a position of power says "No more, null sec cartels and your acolytes, no more. Your days of wrecking the game for your own gain is over."

And if that day comes, remote as the chances are, all the aggravation and abuse from dealing with the null sec cartel propaganda teams will be worth it.

How many stations, just as a rough guesstimate, have you destroyed so far?

Edit: On topic, It seems to me people think that null alliances/cartels/donut shops/axis of evil/whatever the phrase is this week do not, and would not, ever have small groups out causing havoc in bubble immune inties.

Right, and you can just sit here posting and doing nothing, until someone takes care of it for you.

Such a winning philosophy.

A link to that philosophy: When the revolution comes, which was imminent in 1968.

2013 and still waiting for that revolution lol.

Right, and you can just sit here posting and doing nothing, until someone takes care of it for you.

Such a winning philosophy.

Recently we have seen a few people leave CCP that were instrumental in the attacks against high sec. Whether those positions are backfilled with more people of the same ilk is likely, but NOT set in stone. We have also seen a couple people hired from EA that are more far more likely interested in growing the subscription base as opposed to catering to the null sec cartels. (do you know how awful things have got that I consider EA exec's the saviours of Eve?)

If you put those things together, there is a small chance, albeit a tiny one, that if enough people like me continue to expose the underlying reasons for why the game is being destroyed for the majority of players, then maybe, just maybe, in the near future, the right person in power might read a post, look at the subscription rates, and say, "hey, this current model is nuts".

That is the day I dream of. When someone in a position of power says "No more, null sec cartels and your acolytes, no more. Your days of wrecking the game for your own gain is over."

And if that day comes, remote as the chances are, all the aggravation and abuse from dealing with the null sec cartel propaganda teams will be worth it.

Edit: On topic, It seems to me people think that null alliances/cartels/donut shops/axis of evil/whatever the phrase is this week do not, and would not, ever have small groups out causing havoc in bubble immune inties.

Guerilla-style Warfare Support - Tactics to chip away at the behemoths have surfaced, allowing small fleets of mercenaries, saboteurs and troublemakers to become cause for concern for even the most reinforced of alliance strongholds.

this is too good to be true, we need bombs to deploy on their station! blasting those alliances to heaven!

nullsec theme park will burn! solo pilots will lead the new millenium!... grillparty starting November 19!

provide us some serious stuff here to shakeup those nullsec teddybears!

best part, while they whine and beg for free stuff, I will burn down their stations

Last time you said that you killed a bunch of cyno ships and uhm ... well actually just a few cyno ships.

How many stations, just as a rough guesstimate, have you destroyed so far?

Edit: On topic, It seems to me people think that null alliances/cartels/donut shops/axis of evil/whatever the phrase is this week do not, and would not, ever have small groups out causing havoc in bubble immune inties.

Right, and you can just sit here posting and doing nothing, until someone takes care of it for you.

Such a winning philosophy.

Holy **** guy. Is this what it looks like when someone loses all contact with reality? You need to shut the PC down and go get some fresh air.


But hey, what do I know. I voted for Harper the last 2 elections in a row ( and the next one too ). Unless Mittens wants the job.

Mittens for PM 2015!

As if that changed anything.

It's still the same people who refuse to play.

Will not really matter - all successful fighting forces need superb funding and excellent organization to work.
Two tools CCP cannot hand out.

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So now we went from shooting cyno frigs to single-handedly burning down nullsec stations?

You are right, Harry. I already packed all my stuff and will be moving back to high-sec. You won. Good game, sir, good game.

yes, guerilla warfare gets support, I already did a billion of damage, with more tools I gonna blast them to heaven, If they don't get me, they will just repair their stuff, no more titans they build

Usually I don't use absolutes but this time I will. You have not done over a billion damage in isk to the cfc. And you cannot count that loki or various blockade runners that don't belong to the cfc

Dinsdale, thanks for response although I can't say I understand your drive to save pixel world from domination of cartels. This is just a game and it really is insignificant in one's life. Sure it takes time and/or money - so does any other hobby - but in the end it is somebody's business that provides you with entertainment. And you can drop the very second you don't get what you want from it. So I guess you get exactly what you want.

And for Harry I have another question: WTF are those bombs you keep talking about? Did I miss second part of stream or sth?

we get timebombs, mines, all kind of stuff, it does not matter people will burn, we put to use everything CCP will provide

Dinsdale, thanks for response although I can't say I understand your drive to save pixel world from domination of cartels. This is just a game and it really is insignificant in one's life. Sure it takes time and/or money - so does any other hobby - but in the end it is somebody's business that provides you with entertainment. And you can drop the very second you don't get what you want from it. So I guess you get exactly what you want.

we get timebombs, mines, all kind of stuff, it does not matter people will burn, we put to use everything CCP will provide

he's absolutly right, you guys are just brainwashed, thats why we need to blast you guys, we bring freedome with bombs to assure you wake up

Can you entertain me with a source of those revelations?

Harry:

Maybe the idea of Guerilla-style tactics referred to the EAF extended range, and the nerfed acceleration and agility of large ships relative to small ships, and the buffed inty.

Or the ability to ninja steal moon goon with the siphon modules.

Of course, that is just pure marketing garbage.
Small squads will still not be able inflict any real damage on the cartels, as even if they can tackle something big, by the time they can inflict enough damage on a large target to truly threaten it, the large target can still batphone for tons of support.

As for siphoning tons of moon goo from the cartels, you still have to be able to get in, and then get out. Many of the lucrative moons are well beyond any jump capabilities of ships, and even if they were in jump range, sorry, jumping a squad in of 10 billion worth of BLOP's is NOT what I would call Guerilla class tactics, or cost.

If CCP had followed through with moon goo ring mining, and the ability to ninja-mine a whole ring in short order, that would be more hurtful towards the cartels. But the cartels quashed that concept fast.

No, this release is just more of the same.
Null sec gets a bigger chunk of the high sec income, as they will quickly control all the lucrative planets in high sec.

I am still waiting for high sec T2 industry to be handed to null sec.
Then again, I figure now that the high sec POCO thing was just the first step.
Why ban T2 mfg in high sec when you are planning on making the high sec NPC stations conquerable, and after the summer release, the null sec cartels will control all the high sec mfg slots?

just use common sense, guerillas deploy bombs, the issues are their invunerable stations, just put 1 + 1 together

maybe the CFC will get some flowers and cakes, no problem, thats what they need out there to make new friends

Us guys? I'm no goon friend, I am a solo pubbie for the most part. However, unlike you and ole' chemtrails pirannha here I am not shocked and appalled that people working together in an MMO are succeeding.

I also try to refrain from painting large groups of people with one prejudicial brushstroke. (You know... 21st century, educated, not a blithering sperglord, etc etc)

Common sense is such a strange phrase when used by you. You are reading too much into marketing hype. Faster warps for small ships and few deployable structures is all you will get. Mines were removed ages ago and bombs are already in game for you to use.

I hope you can get that bottle cap pried from your head before you head back home to hi-sec. The care bears donGÇÖt tolerate those type of deformities.

oh god how foolish of you, i hope the thunder we unleash out there won't wake you up, you see to be sleeping very well indeed

haven't sov-owning nullseccers including GOON been asking for small-gang sov activities for years?

looks like ccp's playing right into their hands

you read that right this change is ccp giving nullseccers exactly what they want

how do you think this is a good thing harry

this is the last nail in the coffin that is now mostly made of nails

Are you implying that Goons have CCP right where they want them?

oh god how foolish of you, i hope the thunder we unleash out there won't wake you up, you see to be sleeping very well indeed

Highsec, eh.

they just need to add mines and stuff,

POS Busters and timebombs that we solo pilots can deploy

we need tools to assure when alliances dockup that we can damager some stuff

alliances and nullbears would need to think about fighting us instead of just docking up
they hunting ships 30 vs. 1, most of the time I'm the only one out there in VFK, 1 vs. 100 goons docking at the station or ratting

don't you get it, we don't want to be alliance puppets like you

that was the only way to fight you guys, become like you

until now, people in charge are convinced already that you all need to die, thats why we get our guerilla tools

Ceasar thumb down for goonswarm

The "thunder" you unleashed the last time you were in VFK- amounted to a moth fartdamp squib. You won't be waking anybody up if you continue like you have been Harry, and you are a fool if you think that these new things will be the Grail you seek.

These used to exist, and there's a reason they were fixed removed.


You mean like Dreads? You know people solo towers in dreads right?
Or the mighty Purifier with its mobility and high ammo load. Though I have not heard of someone doing it solo. Soon you will be able to even drop yourself an ammo depot at a safe spot in VFK for reloads.


I probably shouldn't be giving you ideas, but what the hell. Do you know what happens to towers and POCO's when reinforced?


If you brought a fighting ship and actually looked for fights, you might not get blueballed. Also, bring some friends. You're about the equivalent of a punk walking into gang territory and looking for a $5 representative of the oldest profession to slap around. Then calling it beating up gangsters.

This is truly terrifying - CCP are adding things that may well lead to more fights for those of us who enjoy asploding internet pixels.

large group of pleople have to fall, they need to be broken up to assure something new can emerge, its like the tower of bable, it needs to crumble... there is reason behind it, think about it

god we will get tools to sabotage your ****** titans and send them back to you like torpedos :''D

Dinsdale on the other hand seems more sniper rifle in a clock tower crazy. I feel like his story is gonna end with "grr goons" scrawled in blood on some poor families living room wall.

stop whining, your timers all be gone soon, you'll wakeup in a minefield

you got no clue about guerilla warfare, you'll be screaming for your mommys soon, god this will be like christmas

thanks CCP :'D

The major alliances own nullsec, they own the CSM, they hold CCPs rapt attention like a child staring at a pretty piece of candy.

If you think that CCP is ever going to make things even remotely challenging to those Alliances you are kidding yourself. You are just a fly buzzing around an 800 lb gorilla, a minor nuisance to those alliances and nothing more.

When CCP said they have passed a point of no return, they didnt mean what you apparently thought they meant. I will clarify what they meant. They were saying is that the artificial barrier that is the security system and all the other game mechanics that currently 'protect' highsec from large alliance domination will be slowly removed.

CCP has always made it clear that they want EVE to be a sandbox type game, currently i does not live up to this model because having played in sandboxes as a child i can assure you that if your group had the "big kids" in it, the the entire sandbox was yours not just part of it.

those big kids you mean, those who are scrubbing the floor of my company now? yea they had the sandbox, while I made plans to take over the world...

Congrats on the company !! (I'm calling "first" on brown-nosing the Earths future undisputed God-Lord).

Why do you clutter up the forums with crap. It's all I ever see from you.

One thing we need more and Harry mentioned it is timer bombs, i'm not sure if these exist? like set them up on a pos or turrets and they will detonate if not disabled, they could also add hacking to disable turrets and pos shields.. something.. it's good that they are on the right track for now.

Yes, lets add a hacking module that allows a solo covert ops frigate to instantly reinforce a POS, after playing a minigame for a couple of minutes.

Harry when the expansion hits you can switch to warp stabbed interceptors and actually be immune to bubbles.

ho ho, who said anything about an instant minigame, it can be a complex minigame lol, also it wouldn't be "instant" maybe like the faction warfare plexes, you have to stick around while doing the hacking for some time..

i want to be able to deploy mines into their asteroid fields, bombs with detonators, when they come back, boom! :'D

edit: we need POS Busters, timebombs, mines, devices that disrupts their overview and we showup as alliance memebers, to assure we can enter their stations, sabotage their fleets and POS

In the next expansion the cyno timer will be 20 minutes. Just for Harry Forever.

Every one of those will end up co-opted by us and used in null warfare while we continue to ignore the rest of you.


(and we had mines at one point, we put so many on grid it was a problem)

This is truly terrifying - CCP are adding things that may well lead to more fights for those of us who enjoy asploding internet pixels.

When a Tengue is already deep in structure, Harry will be there.


I don't think it was mainly the efforts of a few that are bringing changes to the game like this. It was a long time coming. For years many have said things tend to stagnate out there, the "global reach and power" of the alliances is a bit stifling, "blob or gtfo" and all that.

A lot of vets saw this coming when combat probes and ship scanning came to be the way they are now. It just simply took a long time. Guerrilla warfare should have come in 2010 but working with legacy systems has the final say in how long things take.

Now, just give ships the ability to jump from system to system on their own and we'll see that festering pit of PVP and chaos that even the nullsec overlords secretly dream of.




We had mines, long ago. Funny thing was, if you left a mine on lowsec, and it detonated on someone while you were in highsec, you got concorded. Why mines were removed, I'm not sure, but I'm certain they made a lot of people laugh.

it all will happen, solo pilots will swarm in, united

That's why your in the biggest carebear coalition in the game.

That's why your in the biggest carebear coalition in the game.

we get timebombs, mines, all kind of stuff, it does not matter people will burn, we put to use everything CCP will provide

now say stabs, then cynos.... you can do it

And a thousand rifters will blot out the sky, right?

Well, first of all the correct spelling is "you're". Secondly, would you care to produce documentry evidence to support your bizarre claim?

I can't speak to the rest of the CFC, but my corp uses carebearing as a means to buy magnificent internet pixel spreadsheets with which to engage in the noble art of shooting other people with the intent of ruining their day.

Actually, no, we don't get timebombs or mines. Even if we did, why wouldn't people just dock or warp away?

We will have depots, cyno jammers, and some other useless crap.

stabs, then cynos.... you can do it

no station yet, douche, because they are invunerable


got it?

So Harry, given your dislike of 'invulnerable' null sec stations, I presume we'll have your support when we make war on high sec (as Dinsdale seems to believe) and are able to blow up high sec stations at will, without any concord interference?

in fact, shouldn't you be totally against concord and high sec entirely? You complain of Goons docking up (despite how many times you get killed in our space) while you use a cloaked ship with stabs (shamelessly bringing in the nerf cloaking contingent against you here).

Surely high sec should be your true enemy?

people made nullsec safer as highsec, VFK is the safest place in the galaxie, only friendship out there nothing else, thats the biggest problem, in highsec there are at least duels and stuff

the CFC are a club of retired carebears, and thats how they handle the spa out there

and yes i sometimes die out there, because I'm the only target in VFK since months, one two others each day jump in, its just a handfull of pilots who do the cleaning, we get CCP support now to get the job done

until now I was only able to kill haulers, miners and cynos, because everything else is just invuneralbe, should i engage your ***** fleets out there 100 vs. 1? no man, we get the tools now to show those nullbears their weakness

their weakness is fear, they fear to loos ships the most, thats why they are hugging eachother

and yes i sometimes die out there, because I'm the only target in VFK since months, one two others each day jump in, its just a handfull of pilots who do the cleaning, we get CCP support now to get the job done

Your delusion and self-obsession really is incredible. If you think you're the only hostile in our space, you're sadly deluded. In fact you're not even a hostile, people ratting don't dock when you come into system because they know you never attack a ship that has the slightest chance of fighting back.

Cynos, the occasional salvager (when flown by a character under 1 month old) and haulers are the high point of your solo war.

We don't dislike you coming into our space, we laugh about it, we enjoy it. You're giving us content and amusement, we don't fear you, we like you being around because it's entertaining to see how bad you are.

Your delusion and self-obsession really is incredible. If you think you're the only hostile in our space, you're sadly deluded. In fact you're not even a hostile, people ratting don't dock when you come into system because they know you never attack a ship that has the slightest chance of fighting back.

Cynos, the occasional salvager (when flown by a character under 1 month old) and haulers are the high point of your solo war.

We don't dislike you coming into our space, we laugh about it, we enjoy it. You're giving us content and amusement, we don't fear you, we like you being around because it's entertaining to see how bad you are.

Nows the time for Harry to rip out a T3 and go to town on your ratters imo.

Your delusion and self-obsession really is incredible. If you think you're the only hostile in our space, you're sadly deluded. In fact you're not even a hostile, people ratting don't dock when you come into system because they know you never attack a ship that has the slightest chance of fighting back.

Cynos, the occasional salvager (when flown by a character under 1 month old) and haulers are the high point of your solo war.

still nothing will hurt them more then killing those cynos, sniping away their vunerable babies infront of their station shows them who they are, fragile puppies, not able to do a thing about it...

BWAHAHAHAHAH!

Never stop being the Goons buffoon, Harry. Shine on you crazy diamond.

BWAHAHAHAHAH!

Never stop being the Goons buffoon, Harry. Shine on you crazy diamond.

Seriously go sell yourself to snigwaffe. then one day, someone will just cyno with you in system and instead of having the cyno popped their ratting carrier will be dropped on by pandemic legion wannabes

And after people realize you're a snigwaffe cyno alt, they will never laugh at you again

they do not get those cynokills out of their head, thats a good thing...

they do not get those cynokills out of their head, thats a good thing...

It really made an impact. I have biomassed one cyno character already because I simply can't afford to buy new cynos every time you are in VFK.

WoW is that way -->

goonswarm, the alliance that could not stop whining about harrys cynokills

dont worry, you will be remembered

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Here is a hint Harry, there is a big difference between whining about cyno kills, and laughing at you for killing cynos.

Please see a professional, as you may have some form of a neurocognitive disorder, or neurodevelopmental disorder. You keep confusing us laughing at you, with us whining about you.

bitter goon tears, if it would only be your cynos that go down... funny how you want to hide the truth...

those cynokills are just there to keep me entertained, your little sacrifice, goatpresents, call it like you want

3 billion blasted to heaven, I'm blasting your guys, the only one up there in VFK for hours, days and weeks

3 more harrys and your pathetic alliance would brun in flames

I'm playing blindfolded to have a challange against your guys, god please wake up

seriously?

Boredom starting November 20th.

Since no one has agreed yet with Harry, let me be the first.

I love the idea of the mines! I propose we call them... Anaconda mines. I think that name has a good ring to it. I expect an extra Scorpion, Ishukone Watch in my hangar for such a good idea.

To add to your wunderbar ideen, I propose further ideas to cement the change of power...

A module that projects holograms of extra ships to make it look like you have friends in a fleet. They will even occupy local with random scary names to make it really look like you could muster a fleet. Local will go into tidi, further confirming to your enemies that you have finally gathered a fleet that is not terrible. An additional highslot module can be used in conjunction with it that randomly types taunts into local. Another highslots module can project fake damage onto a targeted enemy ship. The enemy will see damage to his ship, but it won't be real- just an infection of his display systems.

A new service can be unveiled as another way to spend plex. For the small sum of 1 plex, you will be able to hire 20 virtual assistants in a sweatshop who will **** post in the eve-o forums nonstop for 10 hours each. They will each have a unique and permanent eve name and appear to be in your corp. As an added bonus, they will inflate your corp numbers to make it look as though people actually joined your corp.

Soon people will wish the Goons were back in power.

The new catchphrase on the forums will be "grrr Harry"

Guerilla-style Warfare Support - Tactics to chip away at the behemoths have surfaced, allowing small fleets of mercenaries, saboteurs and troublemakers to become cause for concern for even the most reinforced of alliance strongholds.

this is too good to be true, we need bombs to deploy on their station! blasting those alliances to heaven!

nullsec theme park will burn! solo pilots will lead the new millenium!... grillparty starting November 19!

provide us some serious stuff here to shakeup those nullsec teddybears!

edit: we need POS Busters, timebombs, mines, devices that disrupts their overview and we showup as alliance memebers, to assure we can enter their stations, sabotage their fleets and POS

If only stations actually dropped stuff like corp hangars and SMA's ued to do..
Im gonna stock up on siphons and cheap haulers for winter , could be fun to try out going to nullsec and shop lift a few hand fulls of moon goo

or die trying

No bitter tears here, they are tears of laughter. You don't seem to recognise the difference. That is a serious cognative disfunction. I'm seriously trying to help you, but I wash my hands of you.

Please continue to call our laughter at you, "bitter Goon tears" you have us in stitches here. At first we thought that Poe's Law was in effect, but you really seem to think that killing cyno alts and > month old newbies, is really doing irreparable harm to Goons. We even tell you how to better fit your ship to kill us because we genuinely want to help you, but you disregard our advice, thinking we are trying to trick you somehow.

This is how we actually think of you.