Create it first =3

So we just give you money and you make this game changing thing out for free? =)

I don't see your page working too be honest...

Yeah, honestly I don't know how to work out the trust issue. I think we could do it on a work-based basis. We can write up a schedule of the development process of this website. We can then create objectives that need to be completed on a time line. As each objective is completed, we receive a partial payment.

I would never do this with my clients in real life. We demand 60% up front.. but this is EVE online, and it's notorious for scammers, so I would be willing to make an exception.

Yeah, honestly I don't know how to work out the trust issue. I think we could do it on a work-based basis. We can write up a schedule of the development process of this website. We can then create objectives that need to be completed on a time line. As each objective is completed, we receive a partial payment.

I would never do this with my clients in real life. We demand 60% up front.. but this is EVE online, and it's notorious for scammers, so I would be willing to make an exception.

I'm down with what Lord said.

No one will pay a random guy upfront for a design made in paint =P

It's not the painting that has value. It's the idea, and my ability to bring it to life. That ability can be proven with a portfolio.

Your website & portfolio is awful!, the idea of you & your company doing this would value it very low!

On a serious side.. You spend hours creating this 'revolutionary' alliance management system (im pretty sure theres a corp management system out there) and someone will come along and make something similar, better and cheaper/free to use.

Therefor I must say "I'm Out"

I'm not sure what portfolio you're looking at since I didn't link it. I haven't been active in this game for quite awhile. Also, yes, it's true someone can emulate this system. They would have to put in about 2 months work though. It's going to be extremely complex. This isn't something some 14 year old can do.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DBXZWB_dNsw
Try again.

This all seem VERRY formiliar .. you tried doing this scam uhm scheme before on this forum ?

Since you ''don't want to '' answer my question i did a search .... and stumbled on this post off yours wich indeed is the same thing a long time ago seems i even posted in it hence prob why i remembered the ''layout'' of your OP .

I agree that it would be a complex site. My company does Project Management software, and we do a lot of complex things on our web application. Send me a message if you would like a consultant with some experience implementing something that size.

So I've proposed this before, and it didn't catch on? That was 9 months ago. I started a company since then. I hired developers since then. I've created proposals, signed contracts. I'm 17 years old, I've grown a lot since then. I'm looking at this much more professionally.

Like I said, I wouldn't ask that an investor pay any amount up front. Instead, we can write a time line, and add objectives. When each objective is completed, I would get a payment. This would ensure the project is completed, and nobody is scammed. There isn't much risk here. Just someone willing to agree to fund it because they have faith in the idea I'm selling. I encourage you to look at the idea. Read my 2nd post on this thread. I'm confident you will like my ideas. I'm not just selling a website here. I'm selling a system, and I lay out pretty specifically what features it will have.

So.

I just read the Thread about your previous attempt at this and i must say... You didn't learn anything did you?

Make the site and sell it or give up your little scam.

And before you say you aren't scamming, Can you prove yourself otherwise?

What you have done the last 9 months that makes you think that this will work now i don't know...
But i know it won't work now =)

Save yourself the time ^__^

I figured out why this thread smelled like failure: http://www.facepunch.com/showthread.php?t=1291146

Keep in mind our latest client we got from that thread. Paying us $1,600 USD for a commercial tourism website. Facepunch is full of trolls. They exist on all forums, and due to the fact that most trolls don't have lives, they make up a good majority of forum posts which misleadingly gives the impression that that is the majority opinion. Take this thread for instance. People looking to discredit not because the idea is bad, but because they have nothing better to do.

I'm hoping the business minded people will see this is a good offer, and a good idea.

So I have purchased my lotto site from Vixen and I can confirm they are 100% legit, I have spent over $1000 with them and have been amazed with their work, they always online and DLEIVER as planned.

Now I suppose you will look at this char and think I am Vixen, well if you are considering this proposition then evemail me and would be more then happy to skype / video call you and share my pay pal details to prove they are trustworthy.

I would also be happy to give free advice on how to manage 3rd party developers to make sure you get what you need,

Not sure what else I can say except for ignor the haters and if you like what they offer for the price they are charging then go for it, it will be a reality.

The thing is, nothing is being offered here. The proposal is that you give OP 100B isk for something that hasn't even been created yet. Most of the services he is incorporating into his "idea" are already available for free elsewhere. If you purchased a lotto site then you obviously don't know how to use google, because the source code is available for free.

Regardless, this type of discussion does not belong in the Sell Order forum, and should be relocated by a representative of ISD. (similar to the last thread you created on this exact subject.)

The thing is, nothing is being offered here. The proposal is that you give OP 100B isk for something that hasn't even been created yet. Most of the services he is incorporating into his "idea" are already available for free elsewhere. If you purchased a lotto site then you obviously don't know how to use google, because the source code is available for free.

Regardless, this type of discussion does not belong in the Sell Order forum, and should be relocated by a representative of ISD. (similar to the last thread you created on this exact subject.)

Anyway, this website, if I do it, will literally be the most complex website my company has ever made.

It's not the painting that has value. It's the idea, and my ability to bring it to life. That ability can be proven with a portfolio.

I also disagree with you about ideas having value. You can have all the ideas in the world, but unless you can execute them properly, or try sell them to someone gullible enough, they are worthless. Either way you've already given your idea away for free and now the money is in executing it.