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Hans Jagerblitzen
Autocannons Anonymous
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Posted - 2011.10.31 18:20:00 -
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So, since lots of stuff is being worked on for ship models, I thought IGÇÖd ask a question thatGÇÖs been bugging me for some time.
Why do the military-grade (fleet issue, navy issue) editions of spaceships have standard woodland / desert camouflage paintjobs? It seems so silly and arbitrary. Why in the world would I have brown and green blotches on my stabber unless IGÇÖm flying it through a forest?
To me, GÇ£space camouflageGÇ¥ would consist of a black ship painted with pale colored dots. Now, this would be a pain in the butt to actually see, so IGÇÖm not asking for that obviously. But the camo blotches we have now GÇô seem so slapped on and out of place. Almost any other cool custom paintjob would work, I just donGÇÖt get the camo thing.
Is there something IGÇÖm missing? Is there some lore or anything that explains this peculiar design decision when it comes to ship paintjob?
Are we seeing new paintjobs or customization options come winter expansion?
Thanks developers and community alike, appreciate the inputGǪ
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InVictus Kell
The Scope
Gallente Federation
34
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Posted - 2011.10.31 18:23:00 -
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True story: Olive green camouflage makes you ahrder to see no matter where you are, in space, in the jungle, at a little girls pink pny birthday party, at a nightclub trying to pick up chicks, etc.
It's a widely believed fact.
didnt the navy mega used to be nearly pitch black? I remember after the trinity upgrade it used to look seriously menacing. |
MeestaPenni
Mercantile and Stuff
25
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Posted - 2011.10.31 18:25:00 -
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It was CCP GI Joe's decision to do that. |
Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
1089
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Posted - 2011.10.31 18:26:00 -
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Because colour schemes make no difference in a world of sensors (which aren't working within the visible light spectrum, or indeed aren't even using light to begin with) so you can paint them any way you like without it making any differenceGǪ
GǪso you go for what looks good and what is traditional instead.
GÇöGÇöGÇö
GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí
you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥
GÇö Karath Piki-á |
i5L4NDOF5T4BiLiTY
sHaKeDoWn..
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Posted - 2011.10.31 18:32:00 -
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Tippia wrote:Because colour schemes make no difference in a world of sensors (which aren't working within the visible light spectrum, or indeed aren't even using light to begin with) so you can paint them any way you like without it making any differenceGǪ
GǪso you go for what looks good and what is traditional instead.
LADAR bro. |
Montevius Williams
Trigger works
53
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Posted - 2011.10.31 18:44:00 -
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Probably out of tradition? Navy is part of the military, military wears camo. Hell, sailors and Marines on ships still wear green camo utilities. Do they need them? Hell No, but its tradition (assuming the're not crashing a beachhead that is). The Airforce wears camo. Do they need them in an office enironment at Edwards Airforce base? Hell No, but its tradition.
Out of any organization in the world, the military (any countries military) is probably the biggest on tradition and customs.
Full disclosure: I was in the Marine Corps. |
Muad 'dib
The Imperial Fedaykin
8
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Posted - 2011.10.31 18:52:00 -
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InVictus Kell wrote:True story: Olive green camouflage makes you harder to see no matter where you are, in space, in the jungle, at a little girls pink pony birthday party, at a nightclub trying to pick up chicks, etc.
It's a widely believed fact.
didnt the navy mega used to be nearly pitch black? I remember after the trinity upgrade it used to look seriously menacing.
its true, ever wonder how idiot meathead squaddies get the chicks? its that damned overpowered cammo.
The greatest problem with it is that its only for the gall, clearly this needs to be spread out, id particularly like ot see the aeon with a nice cammo job, cos boy it needs somthing! |
Abdiel Kavash
Paladin Order
Fidelas Constans
104
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Posted - 2011.10.31 18:56:00 -
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Because it looks cool. I'm literally invincible, and my daily income could buy me a small country on any of the thousands of planets I can visit in a few hours. I can paint my ship however the heck I want! |
Gealbhan
Celestial Horizon Corp.
Flatline.
53
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Posted - 2011.10.31 19:00:00 -
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The Minmatar use space camo all the time. Have you ever tried looking for one of their ships in an asteroid belt? |
stoicfaux
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Posted - 2011.10.31 19:00:00 -
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Hans Jagerblitzen wrote:
Why do the military-grade (fleet issue, navy issue) editions of spaceships have standard woodland / desert camouflage paintjobs? It seems so silly and arbitrary. Why in the world would I have brown and green blotches on my stabber unless IGÇÖm flying it through a forest?
Typical short-sighted human centrist liberal nanny-state why isn't the state run with common sense, where common sense equals my personal views naive waste-product of a bad lay civilian.
The space paint camouflage only appears as brown/green to the HUMAN eye. To the sensors of Eve, the camouflage is quite effective at limiting the enemy's ability to lock on to a ship to just under 250km and makes it difficult for larger ships to lock onto smaller ships.
Now go back to your hippie, trust-fund funded, political-science-can-bring-about-utopia college commune and let the rest of us get back to defending your right to be stupid from our external (and internal) enemies.
Tinfoil. It should be at the top of everyone's food pyramid.
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Demon View
24th Imperial Crusade
Amarr Empire
21
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Posted - 2011.10.31 19:04:00 -
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Hans Jagerblitzen wrote:So, since lots of stuff is being worked on for ship models, I thought IGÇÖd ask a question thatGÇÖs been bugging me for some time.
Why do the military-grade (fleet issue, navy issue) editions of spaceships have standard woodland / desert camouflage paintjobs? It seems so silly and arbitrary. Why in the world would I have brown and green blotches on my stabber unless IGÇÖm flying it through a forest?
No faction Amarr ship is so afflicted (although the Punisher has some suspicious tints, although the executioner has those black-rubber bits on it now, although the new Maller...); there are also non-faction Caldari and Gallente ships that are so afflicted - f.e., the Harpy. On some ships it looks OK (f.e., the Harpy), although it's just blatant nonsense as design.
Maybe CCP has been planning ahead for the NEX ship-skins for some time. |
Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
1089
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Posted - 2011.10.31 19:07:00 -
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i5L4NDOF5T4BiLiTY wrote:LADAR bro. No need for visual light spectrum, and doesn't particularly care about colour patterns anyway.
GÇöGÇöGÇö
GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí
you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥
GÇö Karath Piki-á |
Coastie SK
Wildly Inappropriate
Goonswarm Federation
1
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Posted - 2011.10.31 19:08:00 -
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Montevius Williams wrote:Probably out of tradition? Navy is part of the military, military wears camo. Hell, sailors and Marines on ships still wear green camo utilities. Do they need them? Hell No, but its tradition (assuming the're not crashing a beachhead that is). The Airforce wears camo. Do they need them in an office enironment at Edwards Airforce base? Hell No, but its tradition.
Out of any organization in the world, the military (any countries military) is probably the biggest on tradition and customs.
Full disclosure: I was in the Marine Corps.
Coasties dont wear camo most of the time... unless we are deployed to another region. I have a few sets of DCUs supporting OIF in Bahrain. |
Potamus Jenkins
The Lucky Bible Company
0
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Posted - 2011.10.31 19:09:00 -
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i love the way the buzzard looks |
InVictus Kell
The Scope
Gallente Federation
34
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Posted - 2011.10.31 19:10:00 -
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There's also all the forests in space too, although you cant see them because they're also camoflouged. |
Scortched Merc
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
38
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Posted - 2011.10.31 19:11:00 -
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I am looking forward to my Tengu having a nice Hello Kitty paint job... that'll be soem awsome camo. 
E .-+ ` ' / -+. F
Your tears fuel my internet spaceship. |
Hyacinthous
Sibyl Cadre
0
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Posted - 2011.10.31 19:11:00 -
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Real space camo is a Mirrored paint job.
Too bad CCP doesn't know about that. Starships should have a mirror coating, that is the perfect camo for a starship. |
Demon View
24th Imperial Crusade
Amarr Empire
21
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Posted - 2011.10.31 19:14:00 -
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Coastie SK wrote:Coasties dont wear camo most of the time... unless we are deployed to another region. I have a few sets of DCUs supporting OIF in Bahrain.
And then you have the Air Force.
... I take back that "blatant nonsense", CCP. |
stoicfaux
342
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Posted - 2011.10.31 19:16:00 -
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Scortched Merc wrote:I am looking forward to my Tengu having a nice Hello Kitty paint job... that'll be soem awsome camo.
Speaking of which, obligatory
* Hello Kitty Kestrel: http://www.mmorpg.com/photo/322c9d29-db56-4f12-8e81-30505459d9c4
* Hello Kitty Apoc: http://www.unholyground.com/upload/hellokittyapoc.jpg
* Hello Kitty AR-15 http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_2j_d3CsMeL8/TKnoUdNsEtI/AAAAAAAABMo/uBATMt1W8-4/s1600/hellokitty_ar15assault_1.jpg
Tinfoil. It should be at the top of everyone's food pyramid.
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Nariya Kentaya
Celestial Ascension
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Posted - 2011.10.31 19:17:00 -
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Tippia wrote:Because colour schemes make no difference in a world of sensors (which aren't working within the visible light spectrum, or indeed aren't even using light to begin with) so you can paint them any way you like without it making any differenceGǪ
GǪso you go for what looks good and what is traditional instead.
i say we go for what looks good, and make a pirate faction that neon-lines their ships to look like something otu of TRON: Legacy (or the original tron, if your feeling nostalgiac), cause i eman honestly, its nigh-impossible to see something in space visually without already knowing WHERE to look, and having the sun behind you to reflect the light back in your direction, so why dont we have big/flashy overly flamboyant ships instead of either Minmatar Rust, Amarrian bronze/brass, and Caldari Gunmetal? |
Neve Talie-Ko
University of Caille
Gallente Federation
3
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Posted - 2011.10.31 19:19:00 -
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Wouldn't black have a detrimental effect on life support (air conditioning) close to a star? Even mirrored would be a problem when outlined against the sun. |
stoicfaux
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Posted - 2011.10.31 19:20:00 -
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Neve Talie-Ko wrote:Wouldn't black have a detrimental effect on life support (air conditioning) close to a star? Even mirrored would be a problem when outlined against the sun.
Given that you can park your ship near, on, or in a star, the answer would be "no."
Tinfoil. It should be at the top of everyone's food pyramid.
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i5L4NDOF5T4BiLiTY
sHaKeDoWn..
5
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Posted - 2011.10.31 19:59:00 -
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Tippia wrote:i5L4NDOF5T4BiLiTY wrote:LADAR bro. No need for visual light spectrum, and doesn't particularly care about colour patterns anyway.
Well if it was LADAR the patterns would give it away, because its pretty hard to make patterns out of a colour palette of black, black and black. which would be the colour of a ship trying to defeat LADAR.
Even out of our visual range LADAR using ultraviolet and near infrared would be defeated by material that was black in colour to our eye's, but also happen's to absorb ultraviolet and near infrared. |
stoicfaux
342
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Posted - 2011.10.31 20:12:00 -
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i5L4NDOF5T4BiLiTY wrote:
Well if it was LADAR the patterns would give it away, because its pretty hard to make patterns out of a colour palette of black, black and black. which would be the colour of a ship trying to defeat LADAR.
Even out of our visual range LADAR using ultraviolet and near infrared would be defeated by material that was black in colour to our eye's, but also happen's to absorb ultraviolet and near infrared.
Or, you know, since Eve ships are supposed to ride some kind of subspace/gravity wave, maybe LADAR instead measures the target's distortion of subspace/gravity in order to calculate where the target is.
Besides, according to Atomic Rocket, there ain't no stealth in space.
"The Space Shuttle's much weaker main engines could be detected past the orbit of Pluto. The Space Shuttle's manoeuvering thrusters could be seen as far as the asteroid belt. And even a puny ship using ion drive to thrust at a measly 1/1000 of a g could be spotted at one astronomical unit."
The only camouflage in space is a magic cloaking device. Or hiding completely inside a rock until your ship's heat warms the rock enough for people on the outside to wonder why your rock is warmer than it should be.
tl;dr Eve's physics and Harry Potter's magic are equally defined and equally plausible.
Tinfoil. It should be at the top of everyone's food pyramid.
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InVictus Kell
The Scope
Gallente Federation
34
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Posted - 2011.10.31 20:17:00 -
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stoicfaux wrote:
tl;dr Eve's physics and Harry Potter's magic are equally defined and equally plausible.
Voldemort ganks miners and sells PLEX for too much!! NERFBAT! |
Nova Fox
Novafox Shipyards
185
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Posted - 2011.10.31 20:17:00 -
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Becuase in space we really look for you heat not your colors. |
i5L4NDOF5T4BiLiTY
sHaKeDoWn..
5
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Posted - 2011.10.31 20:25:00 -
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Well yeah, the only perfect Stealth, would be for the ship to not exist at all.
Thats no reason not to try lower your footprint, with a simple coat of paint.
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Jennifer Starling
Imperial Navy Forum Patrol
184
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Posted - 2011.10.31 20:28:00 -
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If a ship was capable of atmospheric flight (e.g. symmetrical ships) and land/hide somewhere in the jungle, then yes it would make sense.
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Hans Jagerblitzen
Autocannons Anonymous
415
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Posted - 2011.10.31 20:47:00 -
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Jennifer Starling wrote:If a ship was capable of atmospheric flight (e.g. symmetrical ships) and land/hide somewhere in the jungle, then yes it would make sense.
There are several examples of viable atmospheric flight vehicles that are asymmetric, for what its worth. Symmetry is no more a requirement for atmospheric flight than it is for space flight.
Sadly though, it looks like CCP is migrating away from the asymmetric distinctiveness of Caldari and Gallente ships - such as the new Talos design, redesigned Scorpion, and redesigned Crow. |
Cat Casidy
Percussive Diplomacy
0
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Posted - 2011.10.31 20:50:00 -
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Wasn't the new crow debunked by a GM in another thread?
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Hans Jagerblitzen
Autocannons Anonymous
415
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Posted - 2011.10.31 20:54:00 -
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Cat Casidy wrote:Wasn't the new crow debunked by a GM in another thread?
Initially yes. Than, the dev who debunked the crow debunked his own debunking. Claimed he was given bad info, the model is apparently indeed a CCP test model. Now that doesnt mean it'll make it into this expansion, it could have been the digital equivalent of a sketch drawing on some scrap paper. But once its out, player speculation runs rampant!
Jury is still out on whether they're developing that model or whether it was just an experiment.... |
Alara IonStorm
RvB - BLUE Republic
261
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Posted - 2011.10.31 20:59:00 -
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So I jump through the Gate warp to planet 3 customs office at 70 in my Gila when I start Scanning for Anoms. There are 4 in Local so I pop the D-Scan to see to my Horror a Cheetah and RSS Combat Scanner Probes.
Just then the System Scanner clicks and I see Space Desert. I hit Warp to the first one just as 3 Canes land on grid. I figure they will never find me in there with my clever paint job.
When I come out of Warp my Gila landed in a Space Dessert. I was off by 1 s and my Chocolate Gila was Scanned down and killed. My Pod Breached in Strawberry Ice Cream so it was not a complete loss.
True Story. |
Mikael Mechka
Federal Defence Union
Gallente Federation
0
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Posted - 2011.10.31 21:10:00 -
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While we are on the subject... I see no reason for the Deimos to have the Federation Navy salad issue/camo paint job. Hopefully they will at some point change it so that the Deimos is gold/silver like other Duvolle Lab ships. |
Tore Vest
Vikinghall
44
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Posted - 2011.10.31 21:14:00 -
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That day I saw my navymega was camo painted , I took it out in a wh and gave it to a bunch of sleepers.
Never bougth a navymega after that... |
Hans Jagerblitzen
Autocannons Anonymous
416
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Posted - 2011.10.31 21:29:00 -
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Alara IonStorm wrote:
Just then the System Scanner clicks and I see Space Desert. I hit Warp to the first one just as 3 Canes land on grid. I figure they will never find me in there with my clever paint job.
When I come out of Warp my Gila landed in a Space Dessert. I was off by 1 s and my Chocolate Gila was Scanned down and killed. My Pod Breached in Strawberry Ice Cream so it was not a complete loss.
True Story.
Did this make sense to anyone else? or is my universal translator bugging out again....
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Nova Fox
Novafox Shipyards
185
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Posted - 2011.10.31 21:34:00 -
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Tore Vest wrote:That day I saw my navymega was camo painted , I took it out in a wh and gave it to a bunch of sleepers.
Never bougth a navymega after that...
and to think they're adding custom paintjobs to all ships this expansion. |
Asana Keikira
New Dawn Initiative
7
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Posted - 2011.10.31 21:44:00 -
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Scortched Merc wrote:I am looking forward to my Tengu having a nice Hello Kitty paint job... that'll be soem awsome camo.
Don't knock the effectiveness of pink in camouflage. Look up "Mountbatten pink" or "Plymouth Pink" sometime....Something even the British Special Air Service has had occasion to use. :) |
Sakkar Arenith
PIE Inc.
9
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Posted - 2011.10.31 21:48:00 -
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You guy have obviously missed out on reading the lore.
It isn't camouflage, it's SPACE AIDS.
It happens when heathen races have uncontrolled and pre-enlightenment ship building going on. Lore states that it all started when a Gallente space poacher had interconstruction with a Monkeytar. And it has been spreading ever since, to all races except of course to those that were chosen by god.
So, remember when you see a ship stricken by Space Aids, it isn't hiding,. It is God actually hating the pilot.
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Tore Vest
Vikinghall
44
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Posted - 2011.10.31 21:52:00 -
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Nova Fox wrote:Tore Vest wrote:That day I saw my navymega was camo painted , I took it out in a wh and gave it to a bunch of sleepers.
Never bougth a navymega after that... and to think they're adding custom paintjobs to all ships this expansion.
Custom paintjobs... thats ok.... but camopaint...
Nooooooooooooooo.... that is so ***** ugly
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E man Industries
SeaChell Productions
115
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Posted - 2011.10.31 22:24:00 -
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The green patches reflect black to radar, while the lighter area's reflect black to ladar..giving the ship a smaller apparent scanable area.
they use the cheapest paints so it has real colors in the visible spectrum.
I have actually Un-subbed my acounts,
We need more to do, not more to wear.
E-mail me when CCP has decent content a casual player can access in a 1-2h play period that is actually fun and contributes to long term goals. |
Jagga Spikes
Spikes Chop Shop
41
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Posted - 2011.10.31 22:46:00 -
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Nariya Kentaya wrote:Tippia wrote:Because colour schemes make no difference in a world of sensors (which aren't working within the visible light spectrum, or indeed aren't even using light to begin with) so you can paint them any way you like without it making any differenceGǪ
GǪso you go for what looks good and what is traditional instead. i say we go for what looks good, and make a pirate faction that neon-lines their ships to look like something otu of TRON: Legacy (or the original tron, if your feeling nostalgiac), cause i eman honestly, its nigh-impossible to see something in space visually without already knowing WHERE to look, and having the sun behind you to reflect the light back in your direction, so why dont we have big/flashy overly flamboyant ships instead of either Minmatar Rust, Amarrian bronze/brass, and Caldari Gunmetal?
indeed. if we are supposed to go for what looks good, than lets have what looks real good. camo ain't it. |
Burhtun
Pacific Mining and Manufacturing Co-operative
Nox Draconum
1
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Posted - 2011.10.31 23:59:00 -
[42] - Quote
Not only is space camo stupid, but its random pattern breaks up the forms of the ships and makes them look ugly and hard to "read". |
Dalloway Jones
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
48
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Posted - 2011.11.01 00:03:00 -
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Amarr is the only Navy Faction I would ever fly (well maybe Minmatar too since the camo is subtle). Space camo is currently the worst thing about ship designs at the moment imo. |
mkint
226
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Posted - 2011.11.01 00:20:00 -
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lol @ people who actually think CCP's art team is any good at art. hi res =/= high quality |
Large Collidable Object
morons.
482
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Posted - 2011.11.01 01:06:00 -
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Hans Jagerblitzen wrote:
To me, GÇ£space camouflageGÇ¥ would consist of a black ship painted with pale colored dots. Now, this would be a pain in the butt
~curse~
morons-áare recruiting. We're good at breeding! |
Jenshae Chiroptera
426
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Posted - 2012.01.14 22:47:00 -
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Still annoying. Totally illogical and the sort of macho thing that is over compensating for something. 
Ideas & Stuff
EVE - the game of sand castles, either building them or kicking them down. -áStatus: Going phishing. |
Nova Fox
Novafox Shipyards
2760
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Posted - 2012.01.14 22:55:00 -
[47] - Quote
Meh maybe thats why the special empire issues always have the best paint schemes.
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Jaroslav Unwanted
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
1278
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Posted - 2012.01.14 23:00:00 -
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mkint wrote:lol @ people who actually think CCP's art team is any good at art. hi res =/= high quality
art differs from high quality also .. depend on who look at it..
for me Picasso is garbage .. if i had some of his "art" i would use it to fire the wood / coal  |
Zimmy Zeta
663
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Posted - 2012.01.14 23:06:00 -
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Space camo would be simply having mirrors attached to the hull that reflect the space around it and have the added benefit of reflecting lazors. . .
But then every ship in eve would look nearly the same ...
-.- |
mkint
621
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Posted - 2012.01.14 23:09:00 -
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what's the point? To p!ss people off. Art team might have some technical skills but art director sucks at actual art. |
Mars Theran
EVE Rogues
EVE Rogues Alliance
57
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Posted - 2012.01.14 23:10:00 -
[51] - Quote
Maybe it's so you can land on planets and hide? |
Fix My Lasers
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
79
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Posted - 2012.01.14 23:14:00 -
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Hans Jagerblitzen wrote:Space camouflage - what's the point?
Obviously to make ships look ugly!
You're not using your brain!
Bring back Blaze and Lux crystals!
http://eve.battleclinic.com/item/i12812-Blaze-L-details.html
http://eve.battleclinic.com/item/i12832-Lux-L-details.html |
Jenshae Chiroptera
426
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Posted - 2012.01.15 00:29:00 -
[53] - Quote
My cynicism leads me to believe they are putting ugly skins on these ships to motivate people to buy other ones from the Nex store. Creating the market so they are so "successful" 
Ideas & Stuff
EVE - the game of sand castles, either building them or kicking them down. -áStatus: Going phishing. |
1-Up Mushroom
Imperial Academy
Amarr Empire
1874
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Posted - 2012.01.15 01:06:00 -
[54] - Quote
To look cool
5 Senses In A Person... 4 Seasons In A Year... 3 Colors In A Stoplight... 2 Poles On The Earth... ONLY 1-UP MUSHROOM!!!-á If You Like My Sig, Like Me!-áRemember EVE is EVErything! |
Nova Fox
Novafox Shipyards
2760
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Posted - 2012.01.15 02:07:00 -
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Zimmy Zeta wrote:Space camo would be simply having mirrors attached to the hull that reflect the space around it and have the added benefit of reflecting lazors. . .
But then every ship in eve would look nearly the same ...
Wouldnt work.
1 you cannot make a mirrior perfect enough to defelct weapons grade lasers, a highly refelctive survace would only provide milliseconds of protection while the holes in the imperfections all mirrors have becomes exploited and blown apart.
2 furthermore highly reflective sensor returns even if they are deflected away from the ship squaking will still lead you to being detected. and you ask why? becuase there is a nice HOLE in my sensor sweep that shouldnt be there.
The way eve handels things is would mean that you're not acutally cloaking you're just fooling the sensors you are not there to the point the system will not call you out on any measue becuase there isnt enough infomration to lock onto let alone to fire at. All ships have this to a degree which is why majority of active electornic foot prints minuts capitol ships are smaller than they are phsycially large. Capitol ships exibit near normal singature reads with signatures much more massive than themselves thanks to all the electronic 'noise' they make.
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Cyzlaki
Interstellar eXodus
BricK sQuAD.
198
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Posted - 2012.01.15 02:14:00 -
[56] - Quote
Has CCP ever confirmed custom paint jobs |
Fawcks
Avoid and Evade
Epsilon Shimmy Alliance
175
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Posted - 2012.01.15 02:16:00 -
[57] - Quote
Hans Jagerblitzen wrote:So, since lots of stuff is being worked on for ship models, I thought IGÇÖd ask a question thatGÇÖs been bugging me for some time.
Why do the military-grade (fleet issue, navy issue) editions of spaceships have standard woodland / desert camouflage paintjobs? It seems so silly and arbitrary. Why in the world would I have brown and green blotches on my stabber unless IGÇÖm flying it through a forest?
To me, GÇ£space camouflageGÇ¥ would consist of a black ship painted with pale colored dots. Now, this would be a pain in the butt to actually see, so IGÇÖm not asking for that obviously. But the camo blotches we have now GÇô seem so slapped on and out of place. Almost any other cool custom paintjob would work, I just donGÇÖt get the camo thing.
Is there something IGÇÖm missing? Is there some lore or anything that explains this peculiar design decision when it comes to ship paintjob?
Are we seeing new paintjobs or customization options come winter expansion?
Thanks developers and community alike, appreciate the inputGǪ
So they can hide in foliage, duh. |
J Kunjeh
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Posted - 2012.01.15 09:06:00 -
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I agree, space camo is lame-o. At least make it digital pattern instead of the standard military camo of what, the 1900's? This is the future CCP, get with it!
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Chesh Aideron
Room Is Empty
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Posted - 2012.01.15 09:33:00 -
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It is a Meta 0 cloaking device employed by the Navies. They have since moved on to more suitable technologies. |
Kha'Vorn
Kha'Toum
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Posted - 2012.01.15 11:00:00 -
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I just want a Roden Shipyards coloured Mega. They are truly awesome looking |
Reiisha
Splint Eye Probabilities Inc.
Dawn of Transcendence
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Posted - 2012.01.15 11:01:00 -
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Please please remove the camo from the Machariel and give it the darker color scheme from before Trinity!
And while you're at it, remove the freaking spikes from the front... |
Valei Khurelem
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Posted - 2012.01.15 11:16:00 -
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If CCP just gave us a spectrum of colours to choose from and paint over the damn thing while cycling through different patterns we wouldn't have this problem.
I think it would be cool to be able to fly a rifter the same colour scheme as the angel cartel, why not have preset ones for factions too? |
Tore Vest
Vikinghall
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Posted - 2012.01.15 11:30:00 -
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First they ruined my navy mega.... with green camo. damnitt !!
Navymega was so nice looking 
But....
I didnt care to mutch.... after all... i still had my vindicator.....
And....
They ruined that good looks allso... 
WHYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY !??!
EDIT:
Whats your plans for the kronos ?
Pink camo ? |
Syphon Lodian
Fabled Enterprises
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Posted - 2012.01.15 11:38:00 -
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Hrm... for uniformity purposes, perhaps. To differentiate from standard-class ships, and to signify that the faction ship is indeed from it's assigned navy. It obviously doesn't have anything to do with be 'invisible in space'.
I like the digi-camo on the CNR. I got a Navy Raven from the EVE store a few months ago, then picked up a CNR in-game and was surprised it was changed to digi-camo instead of desert. It's like they're modeling after the American military or something...  |
Tore Vest
Vikinghall
132
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Posted - 2012.01.15 11:47:00 -
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I want my hulk painted as a veldspar |
Mina Sebiestar
Mactabilis Simplex Cursus
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Posted - 2012.01.15 16:02:00 -
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I rly hope thet mini will got some sand wind/dune art on them hulls instead of current fail one,also it should be less symmetric like Blood raiders paint.
Current one is just so terrible plz don't go caldari route i beg you CCP. |
ElQuirko
The Demonfuge Malevolent Fan Club
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Posted - 2012.01.15 16:10:00 -
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EDIT: **** this, it was troll bait anyway. |
Jenshae Chiroptera
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Posted - 2012.01.15 16:15:00 -
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The only good camouflage would be a cloaks.
One that makes you look just like an asteroid. Then when miners shoot you, you can shoot back.
One that makes your mammoth look like a hurricane for five seconds after cloak wears off at a gate.
Ideas & stuff
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Crystal Liche
ACME Mineral and Gas
131
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Posted - 2012.01.15 16:17:00 -
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Not just the ships, the cloths too.
They sell a formal camo skirt 
Now where would I wear that? In a space station maybe?
Someone is obsessed with camo, they need to not let that person design things.
Camo is not a fashion, it never was  |
stoicfaux
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Posted - 2012.01.15 18:33:00 -
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Yup, camo was the super-lazy "creative" choice.
Given that you cannot hide an on-grid ship in Eve without a cloak (they always appear on the overhead,) you might as well have the paint jobs (and clothes) be flashy/stylish in order to make a statement.
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Rel'k Bloodlor
Mecha Enterprises Fleet
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Posted - 2012.01.16 10:43:00 -
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Well dead space pockets have a lot of clouds, gas and junk. And just because we have sweet tricked out sensors doesn't mean that the other 99% of the universe that isn't pod pilots with up to date gear isn't using long range visual spotting in those areas. Also In the super future paint has to be hell'a cheep. So if .03 isk means some hill billy fails to see you why not?
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Ciar Meara
Virtus Vindice
476
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Posted - 2012.01.16 10:51:00 -
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I am a big fan of the flying circus school of thought regarding camouflage, proposed by Manfred von richthofen
or the Dazzle camouflage from the WWI.
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Hans Jagerblitzen
Autocannons Anonymous
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Posted - 2012.01.16 11:30:00 -
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Valei Khurelem wrote:If CCP just gave us a spectrum of colours to choose from and paint over the damn thing while cycling through different patterns we wouldn't have this problem.
I think it would be cool to be able to fly a rifter the same colour scheme as the angel cartel, why not have preset ones for factions too?
Well, all our preferences aside, at least it sounds as though we'll be getting skinnable ships eventually here, since Crucible released the first half of the new shader model ships. Once the other half is complete, they can release skins for them all so we can swap them around. |
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