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Oriana Fallaci
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Posted - 2006.01.20 11:50:00 -
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Ok, the old Vagabond Loadout thread has a lot of pre-rmr dead weight, so I though Id start a new one.
Right now I got a setup against anything but non-armarr bs, also relies heavily on ewar frig gang.
5 220 mm V AC II
1 Best named Neutralizer
2 Large Shield Extender II
1 Kinetic Hardener II
1 named MWD
1 Damage Control II
3 Gyro II
1 PDU II
Nice resists and ~ 7K+ Shield.
Any comments on this setup? Especially which drones should I be using?
Right now I got 5 lights.
Also, I figure its quite vulnerable to BS due to high Sig and no nos - any ideas what to fit for anti BS duty? Or not possible at all?
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Anjerrai Meloanis
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Posted - 2006.01.20 11:54:00 -
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anti bs would be using a tracking pc, and hail M
uh.
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Testy Mctest
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Posted - 2006.01.20 12:11:00 -
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5 220 mm V AC II
1 Best named Neutralizer
2 Large Shield Extender II
1 Kinetic Hardener II
1 named MWD
1 Damage Control II
3 Gyro II
1 PDU II
Dont particularly like the hardener, damage control sucks, PDU is kinda useless. Would suggest changing them for something else.
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Any comments on this setup? Especially which drones should I be using?
Right now I got 5 lights.
Probably the best way to go.
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Also, I figure its quite vulnerable to BS due to high Sig and no nos - any ideas what to fit for anti BS duty? Or not possible at all?
Only a negligible amount more than an Vag with extenders ever was.
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Lexor SLice
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Posted - 2006.01.20 12:37:00 -
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i use this setup when i have a friend tackle with me,
220's
corpum a-type medium nos (19k range)
large extender II
small gistii a type booster
webber,
AB
gyroII
3x nanofiber
you could switch it too 2 and 2 i suppose.
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ian666
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Posted - 2006.01.20 12:51:00 -
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Curretly when alone I use this.
Highs,
4x 425 Autos T2
1x 220 VC T2
1x Named Med Nos
Meds,
1x Large Extender T2
1x Large T2 SB
1x Invulnerability T2
1x Web/Scram/Or if I have iny with me a Cap recharge/Ken Passive/Active T2/AB Depends on your grid left, might have to drop a 425 for a 220.
Lows,
2x Gyro T2
2x PDU T2
1x Either Gyro T2/Nano/WCS/Small Armor Rep/Cap Relay not one that does -10 SB
Drones,
5x Mixed Lights Dam
Or
5x ECM Lights
Or
5x TD Lights
Works well.
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Intensity Green
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Posted - 2006.01.20 13:51:00 -
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5 dual 180's
1 med nos
1 lse
1 mwd
1 web
1 large shield booster
2 nano's
3 gyro's
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Organa
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Posted - 2006.02.09 15:09:00 -
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gah too slow
5 220s
nos
web
dis
gistii mwd
large extnder II
4 nanos pdu II
you go fater than most speed ceptors great for 0.0 solo ganking
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Sarmaul
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Posted - 2006.02.09 15:17:00 -
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Originally by: Organa
gah too slow
5 220s
nos
web
dis
gistii mwd
large extnder II
4 nanos pdu II
you go fater than most speed ceptors great for 0.0 solo ganking
there are no cruiser sized gistum mwds
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Sarmaul
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Posted - 2006.02.09 15:21:00 -
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Highs (these generally don't change much on a vaga).
220mm AC II x 5
Med Dim Nos x 1
Shield Tank
MWD II x 1
20k Scrambler x 1
Large Shield Extender II x 1
Large Shield Booster II x 1
Gyro II x 3
PDU II x 2
Armor Tank
MWD II x 1
20k Scrambler x 1
Then pick 2 of the following: Web, Tracking Disruptor, Multispec, 20k Scramler, Sensor Damper
Medium Rep II x 1
Explosive Hardener II x 1
Kinetic Hardener II x 1
Gyrostab II x 2
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Goberth Ludwig
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Posted - 2006.02.09 15:48:00 -
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Originally by: Organa
gah too slow
5 220s
nos
web
dis
gistii mwd
large extnder II
4 nanos pdu II
you go fater than most speed ceptors great for 0.0 solo ganking
yah mail me when you find a gist 10mn mwd eh?
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Sky Hunter
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Posted - 2006.02.09 15:56:00 -
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imo Large Booster is so much cap eating...
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Wizie
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Posted - 2006.02.09 16:00:00 -
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large booster II on a Vaga for PvP is a terrible idea.
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Zysco
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Posted - 2006.02.09 16:03:00 -
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Originally by: Wizie
large booster II on a Vaga for PvP is a terrible idea.
Yeah dunno why would ever fit one... drains ur cap so fast.
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Slink Grinsdikild
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Posted - 2006.02.09 16:04:00 -
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I think i'm right in saying a Vagabond with a single large extender II still has a smaller sig radius than an Ishtar. So I doubt two extenders would be overkill.
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Sarmaul
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Posted - 2006.02.09 16:15:00 -
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Originally by: Wizie
large booster II on a Vaga for PvP is a terrible idea.
slap it on manual
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zoturi
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Posted - 2006.02.09 16:20:00 -
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2xlarge shield extender > 1 large booster and 1 large extender II
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Wizie
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Posted - 2006.02.09 16:20:00 -
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Originally by: Sarmaul
Originally by: Wizie
large booster II on a Vaga for PvP is a terrible idea.
slap it on manual
Trust me, it doesn't work.
Maybe if you are in a gang and your chance of getting shot are minimal then you could use it to boost back your hp quickly. But in that scenario the Vaga could much better use its last mid slot for either another warp disruptor, web or tracking disruptor.
For solo, you take on a BS which has even 1 heavy NOS and starts doing some dmg to you with his drones. Your ~800 cap will die well before you are close to breaking its tank.
Best bet, 1 PDS and 1 med shield boosterII for poor folk, though poor folk dont fly Vagas often. Or for the right setup a gistii shield booster for that little boost to make sure your cap doesnt die and your shields rep just enough to not let you hit armor by the time your target BS or HAC is dead.
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Ras Blumin
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Posted - 2006.02.09 16:33:00 -
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5 220's, med nos
mwd, scram, dual extender
gyros/nanos/pdu
p - l - u - r
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zoturi
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Posted - 2006.02.09 16:44:00 -
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Edited by: zoturi on 09/02/2006 16:56:32
done
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Famine Aligher'ri
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Posted - 2006.02.09 17:12:00 -
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Post some diffrent setups being everyone is the same almost
-Highs-
5xDual 180 II's
1xMedium Knave
-Meds-
1x10mn AB II
1xX5 or Fleeting Web
1xWarp Scrambler
1xTracking Disruptor II
-Lows-
1x800mm Rolled
1xMedium Armor Rep II
1xEnergized Exp or Active
1xEnergized Kin or Active
1xGyro II
-Highs-
5xDual 180's
1xStd Launcher II
-Meds-
1x10mn Ab II
1xX5 or Fleeting Web
1xWarp Scrambler
1xTracking Disruptor
-Lows-
2x800 Rolled
1xEnergized Exp or Active
1xEnergized Kin or Active
1xMedium Armor Rep II
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Ras Blumin
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Posted - 2006.02.09 17:16:00 -
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Originally by: Famine Aligher'ri
5xDual 180's
1xStd Launcher II
-Meds-
1x10mn Ab II
1xX5 or Fleeting Web
1xWarp Scrambler
1xTracking Disruptor
-Lows-
2x800 Rolled
1xEnergized Exp or Active
1xEnergized Kin or Active
1xMedium Armor Rep II
You'd be better off with RCU + 1600mm plate.
p - l - u - r
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Masta Killa
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Posted - 2006.02.09 17:22:00 -
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Armor tanked vagas make 3-legged, cancer infected puppies cry.
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LUKEC
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Posted - 2006.02.09 17:56:00 -
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meh why nobody really post what he is using on remaining 2 lowslots... we know what u have there.
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Crellion
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Posted - 2006.02.09 19:36:00 -
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Damn Lucec knows NBSI by heart...
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Sarmaul
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Posted - 2006.02.09 20:00:00 -
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Originally by: Masta Killa
Armor tanked vagas make 3-legged, cancer infected puppies cry.
they can be very useful if you want to load up on ewar. rep, 2 hardeners and 2 gyros. we all know how SA (and former SA) fly their ships ;)
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ElCoCo
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Posted - 2006.02.09 20:05:00 -
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Originally by: LUKEC
meh why nobody really post what he is using on remaining 2 lowslots... we know what u have there.
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Cmdr Patrick
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Posted - 2006.02.09 20:06:00 -
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3 gyors 2 stabs 4tw
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BlackDog Rackh'am
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Posted - 2006.02.09 20:20:00 -
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Crellion no offence, but it depends on circumstances what ppl fit there. I admit that when getting back to the game after an extended inactivity session,i do use 2 WCS. It's an expensive ship, i can afford a limited playtime, i don't want to spend it replacing ships
Plus, when we were doing raids in the south with painball, there were cases where we needed the WCS to engage. I remember going against 8 close range BS(nos,multiple webs,etc),a ferox and some tackling frigates with 2 vagabonds and a stabber. If we didn't have WCS,we would warp at 100km, see the numbers and leave. Don't blame the module, blame the abuse 
On a side note, i now have a full combat setup that emphasizes speed, so i don't need the WCS, as long as i pay attention to the 10km mark of the dreaded web 
Generally, i fit what most of the people mentioned here. 220mm have a decent ammo clip, nice tracking and enough damage. 425's are too hungry for grid and the tiny optimal advantage cancels itself out by the constant reloading,which cuts down on your DPS. 180s track superbly, but they are a bit soft for bigger stuff.
I generally don't fit a web in favor of a second shield extender, with drones, a t2 nos and guns that can hit frigs approaching you being my main anti-tackler defence. Not to mention that frigs are usually scared of vagabonds,i have been jammed by a cerberus, while a crow was scrambling and webbing me. Even being jammed, the crow didn't follow me and i just mwd'ed out of web range
The armor tank setup seems a bit strange,and i generally prefer a shield buffer the extenders give me regardless of capacitor (the ships big weakness). However, with medslots to spare for some EW i think enemy NOS wouldn't be much of a problem if they can't target you,and it's something i would definitely consider when i get my EW skills up (i'm a gunnery freak  )
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Famine Aligher'ri
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Posted - 2006.02.09 20:29:00 -
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Edited by: Famine Aligher''ri on 09/02/2006 20:30:02
I would rather work on a good armor tanking setup for Vaga than shield tanking ect. Something about MWD + Shield Booster + Enemy NoS makes me cring. Not to mention you sacrifice 2 slots for whatever combo you choose (Shield Boost/Extender, Invuln Shield/Extender, Shield Boost/Invuln). Which means no webbing in almost all cases unless you go one slot for shield buffing. However in groups I mean can't go wrong with shield tanking with more gyro's for more damage output.
Dono what the big deal about armor tanking is. You go armor tanking and you have spare mid slots to support it. Anyone say "Cap Injectors?". Which I guess when I get home for work, I will bust out some nifty cap injector setups that support a good tank and give a better defense against the typical NOS setups running around.
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Sky Hunter
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Posted - 2006.02.09 22:56:00 -
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Originally by: BlackDog Rackh'am
Don't blame the module, blame the abuse
signed, same goes to any other module id say even...
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