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Brianis Danemire
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Posted - 2006.01.21 13:52:00 -
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IMHO if you commit a "Crime" and someone gets kill rights on you, You should get concorded. If your pirating and ganking miners for eg you are an outlaw and therefore have no rights. If I had my way once you chose the path of a pirate (and I want them in eve, dont get me wrong) you should have to really prove you had changed by months of grinding to even be allowed inside high sec empire again. I cant wait for the day I can go hunting pirates in low sec empire without losing standing. Pirates have it way way too easy IMO.
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Felxia
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Posted - 2006.01.21 13:53:00 -
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 Originally by: robacz
Edited by: robacz on 21/01/2006 13:47:41
Originally by: Clytamnestra
The "patch notes" for the Eye for an Eye feature of Red Moon Rising has this to say on the matter:
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If you lose your ship within Empire space because of unsanctioned combat, you earn the right to revenge your loss for a limited time, and can kill the assailant on sight.
The only people I have kill rights on are people who killed me without me shooting back at all. And if it's true that you can't fire back without getting concordokkened, well then I have before me a way of making a lot of money.
Drive up to a gate-camp in a shuttle. I've gotten kill-rights on the entire gang that sniped me at one gate-camp. Then find them and destroy them. If they shoot back, they get concordokkened.
That hardly sounds fair. Everyone should have the right to fire back once fired upon - otherwize there's an opportunity for abuse.
Fair? Heh and how fair is killing unarmed shuttle? Imho its perfect, it makes ppl think twice before they kill players who have no chance to fight back.
you didn't read my post above. spies? spieing for enemy fleets, numbers etc. Haulers? miners? 0.0 is a wasteland these killrights imo should only affect 0.1 to 0.4
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Ozzie Asrail
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Posted - 2006.01.21 13:56:00 -
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If thats true then its pretty stupid, can theives can fire back and defend themselves why not the same with kill rights?
I can think of some great griefing oppertunities by using this agaist other players. When will carebears learn that the more rules you put in a game makes it easier to exploit and grief people with.
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j0sephine
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Posted - 2006.01.21 13:59:00 -
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"you didn't read my post above. spies? spieing for enemy fleets, numbers etc. Haulers? miners? 0.0 is a wasteland these killrights imo should only affect 0.1 to 0.4"
"If you lose your ship within Empire space because of unsanctioned combat, you earn the right to revenge your loss for a limited time, and can kill the assailant on sight."
doesn't sound like 0.0 is included there.
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robacz
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Posted - 2006.01.21 14:01:00 -
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I dont see why miner or hauler shouldnt have right to kill you if you kill his unarmed vessel. Spying might be a problem, but if someone has something worth of spying, I guess this person/corp should be able to handle killrights risk.
If you are a pirate, you should accept that your rights in empire are very limited.
If you claim some space and kill anyone you dont like to enter, you should accept that empire wont like it. This one maybe was a spy, but next one could be innocent tourist with Gallentean passport.  You kill them, you risk CONCORD will help with your death in empire.
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theRaptor
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Posted - 2006.01.21 14:06:00 -
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What a load of carebear crap. People were right CCP, you have gone down the carebear path.
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Sister 9
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Posted - 2006.01.21 14:24:00 -
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this thread is hilarious, all the carebear pirates out in full handbag swinging force.
the simple matter is, don't kill people in Empire if you can't handle the consequences.
Originally by: Deja Thoris
Stop pidgeon holing people you know nothing about. It's pathetic and bound to be inaccurate.
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Felxia
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Posted - 2006.01.21 14:31:00 -
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Originally by: j0sephine
"you didn't read my post above. spies? spieing for enemy fleets, numbers etc. Haulers? miners? 0.0 is a wasteland these killrights imo should only affect 0.1 to 0.4"
"If you lose your ship within Empire space because of unsanctioned combat, you earn the right to revenge your loss for a limited time, and can kill the assailant on sight."
doesn't sound like 0.0 is included there.
why do these guys have killrights then? I killed them in 0.0
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HippoKing
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Posted - 2006.01.21 14:33:00 -
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Originally by: Felxia
Originally by: j0sephine
"you didn't read my post above. spies? spieing for enemy fleets, numbers etc. Haulers? miners? 0.0 is a wasteland these killrights imo should only affect 0.1 to 0.4"
"If you lose your ship within Empire space because of unsanctioned combat, you earn the right to revenge your loss for a limited time, and can kill the assailant on sight."
doesn't sound like 0.0 is included there.
why do these guys have killrights then? I killed them in 0.0
empire 0.0 or true 0.0?
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Ozzie Asrail
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Posted - 2006.01.21 14:37:00 -
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Originally by: Sister 9
this thread is hilarious, all the carebear pirates out in full handbag swinging force.
the simple matter is, don't kill people in Empire if you can't handle the consequences.
Yup it is hilarious, and the threads from carebears who get griefed becuse of this feature will be 100x as good as this thread.
btw, read your own sig yea?
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Snake Jankins
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Posted - 2006.01.21 14:42:00 -
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Edited by: Snake Jankins on 21/01/2006 14:43:58
Edited by: Snake Jankins on 21/01/2006 14:43:05
Originally by: Sister 9
this thread is hilarious, all the carebear pirates out in full handbag swinging force.
the simple matter is, don't kill people in Empire if you can't handle the consequences.
If the consequences were that a victim was allowed to hunt someone down with his corp mates or with a mercenary to take revenge, then it would be fine imho. I just don't like it that concorde reacts, if you defend yourself.
Well, I'm not a pirate. If I was, I'd stay in low-sec and wouldn't care at all about this stuff. I'd just try to kill ships that could carry interesting loot or ransom them without worrying about my sec rating.
If someone gets killright against me now, I just won't enter hi-sec, either. And if that person made a stupid comment about his 'killrights' against me in low-sec, I'd try to kill him there again just to show that I give a fck. 
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Patric Murphy
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Posted - 2006.01.21 15:10:00 -
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Originally by: Brianis Danemire
IMHO if you commit a "Crime" and someone gets kill rights on you, You should get concorded. If your pirating and ganking miners for eg you are an outlaw and therefore have no rights. If I had my way once you chose the path of a pirate...you should have to really prove you had changed by months of grinding to even be allowed inside high sec empire again... Pirates have it way way too easy IMO.
I would like to know how pirates have it easy? i'm willing to bet you have never spent 2-3 hours looking for a rock to mine and end up showing a profit of less than 100K isk. Some people here seam to think that annyone who kills another ship shold just lay down and take it becoulse they "thats what they deserve" So how bout all those Anti Pirates" that have a lower security rating than me? youre logic says that they shuld be ganked by concord also every time they enter hi sec. Pirates alrady have enough obsticals to over come, being able to defend our selves shouldnt be one of them.
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Felxia
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Posted - 2006.01.21 15:11:00 -
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Originally by: HippoKing
Originally by: Felxia
Originally by: j0sephine
"you didn't read my post above. spies? spieing for enemy fleets, numbers etc. Haulers? miners? 0.0 is a wasteland these killrights imo should only affect 0.1 to 0.4"
"If you lose your ship within Empire space because of unsanctioned combat, you earn the right to revenge your loss for a limited time, and can kill the assailant on sight."
doesn't sound like 0.0 is included there.
why do these guys have killrights then? I killed them in 0.0
true ofc.
empire 0.0 or true 0.0?
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Felxia
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Posted - 2006.01.21 15:12:00 -
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Edited by: Felxia on 21/01/2006 15:14:19
Originally by: Ozzie Asrail
Originally by: Sister 9
this thread is hilarious, all the carebear pirates out in full handbag swinging force.
the simple matter is, don't kill people in Empire if you can't handle the consequences.
Yup it is hilarious, and the threads from carebears who get griefed becuse of this feature will be 100x as good as this thread.
btw, read your own sig yea?
if you had a brain you'd maybe understand that 0.0 space is not empire.
And also, i dont have a sig...
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Ozzie Asrail
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Posted - 2006.01.21 15:30:00 -
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Originally by: Felxia
Edited by: Felxia on 21/01/2006 15:14:19
Originally by: Ozzie Asrail
Originally by: Sister 9
this thread is hilarious, all the carebear pirates out in full handbag swinging force.
the simple matter is, don't kill people in Empire if you can't handle the consequences.
Yup it is hilarious, and the threads from carebears who get griefed becuse of this feature will be 100x as good as this thread.
btw, read your own sig yea?
if you had a brain you'd maybe understand that 0.0 space is not empire.
And also, i dont have a sig...
 Umm I know 0.0 isn't empire and i know you dont have a sig...
Maybe you can insult someone who actually quoted you next time?
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gfldex
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Posted - 2006.01.21 15:42:00 -
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It is a bug and I got hit by it. A friendly GM gave me my ship back. So just be pushy and ask to forward it to a senior GM.
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Clytamnestra
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Posted - 2006.01.21 15:58:00 -
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Originally by: gfldex
It is a bug and I got hit by it. A friendly GM gave me my ship back. So just be pushy and ask to forward it to a senior GM.
Good news that.
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j0sephine
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Posted - 2006.01.21 16:02:00 -
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"why do these guys have killrights then? I killed them in 0.0"
No idea; if it was indeed true 0.0 system ('numbers and letters' name, no empire faction sovereignty, no gate guns) ... bug report it, please? ^^;
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Gummi
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Posted - 2006.01.21 16:10:00 -
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Originally by: gfldex
It is a bug and I got hit by it. A friendly GM gave me my ship back. So just be pushy and ask to forward it to a senior GM.
So is this another bug, that the GM's think is game design.
Getting really tired of these bugs.
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Spartan III
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Posted - 2006.01.21 16:13:00 -
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If some one kills you in 0.0 you do not get kill rights. You only get kill rights if you are killed in .1-1.0 space and you were not at war with the person/corp and if he did not have kill rights against you.
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Hllaxiu
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Posted - 2006.01.21 16:32:00 -
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Originally by: Brianis Danemire
IMHO if you commit a "Crime" and someone gets kill rights on you, You should get concorded. If your pirating and ganking miners for eg you are an outlaw and therefore have no rights. If I had my way once you chose the path of a pirate (and I want them in eve, dont get me wrong) you should have to really prove you had changed by months of grinding to even be allowed inside high sec empire again. I cant wait for the day I can go hunting pirates in low sec empire without losing standing. Pirates have it way way too easy IMO.
Ironically, all the people that have kill rights against me are pirates or in a pirate alliance...
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Trepkos
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Posted - 2006.01.21 16:41:00 -
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For those who do not know, Killrights are private and they can only be activated whilst killing someone in empire space. 0.0, it does not work, aggression timers do not set off in 0.0. It also does not work on outlaws.
Well I had no problem with the idea of someone being able to kill/take revenge on someone who had taken their ship in a earlier bout. But the idea of the person can not defend themselves offensively(with guns) when attacked, is about as stupid as it gets.
And for you idiots posting that this is what the empire griefer pirate, people who enjoy the game for the pvp and not the pve, deserve. Its absurd, there should be no such thing as free passes to kill someone, especially one with the time length of a month.
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Ginger Magician
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Posted - 2006.01.21 17:49:00 -
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In my thread all the eve fanbois/anti-gingers said they loved killrights lol
The fact is they r crazy - they only apply to empire kills and if u shoot back u will be concordokken
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Nero Scuro
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Posted - 2006.01.21 18:34:00 -
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If somebody actually knew how to play the game, they'd be playing it, they wouldn't be sitting around answering petitions, 'k? It's obviously a bug (not even CCP are that much a bunch of 'bears!). I can't believe none of you haven't just gotten some alts and tried it out for yourself.
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Hanns
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Posted - 2006.01.21 19:21:00 -
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LOL i cant actually believe the DEV's let this into TQ like this, for someone like me who has a bounty, im sure many people will try and kill me in 0.0 or low sec if they have the chance LOL time to fly around low sec in a condor, let them blow me up, then find them via agents in empire and gank there faction fitted 2billion isk battleships! LOL
good job CCP support the griefers
This is plain idiotic. lol
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Gabby05
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Posted - 2006.01.21 20:49:00 -
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Originally by: Felxia
Originally by: HippoKing
felxia- why are you posting? *snip*
Casue I've some people have killrights on me and I think it's unfair that I can't defend myself 
Awww how awful, sounds more like poetic justice, you know.. how you ganked a newbie unable to shoot back and now its happening to you gagagaga.
Just stay in low sec and you wont have to worry about being spanked by concorde.
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Kaaii
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Posted - 2006.01.21 20:55:00 -
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When did you start playing again Felixa?
"..Id rather fall beside 10 lions, than stand with One thousand sheep.."
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Gabby05
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Posted - 2006.01.21 20:56:00 -
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Originally by: Hanns
LOL i cant actually believe the DEV's let this into TQ like this, for someone like me who has a bounty, im sure many people will try and kill me in 0.0 or low sec if they have the chance LOL time to fly around low sec in a condor, let them blow me up, then find them via agents in empire and gank there faction fitted 2billion isk battleships! LOL
good job CCP support the griefers
This is plain idiotic. lol
Thats what you should do, fly in a condor but you have to make it easy on us carebears be somewhere close to high sec that way my 2 alt's won't have far to travel and pod ya.
If you like i could leave them online docked in a station so you can smack talk em silly telling them how stupid they were to dare pod you and now they wont be able to fly their faction BS's any more for the next month .
Han's you funny
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Brianis Danemire
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Posted - 2006.01.21 22:27:00 -
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Originally by: Patric Murphy
Originally by: Brianis Danemire
IMHO if you commit a "Crime" and someone gets kill rights on you, You should get concorded. If your pirating and ganking miners for eg you are an outlaw and therefore have no rights. If I had my way once you chose the path of a pirate...you should have to really prove you had changed by months of grinding to even be allowed inside high sec empire again... Pirates have it way way too easy IMO.
I would like to know how pirates have it easy? i'm willing to bet you have never spent 2-3 hours looking for a rock to mine and end up showing a profit of less than 100K isk. Some people here seam to think that annyone who kills another ship shold just lay down and take it becoulse they "thats what they deserve" So how bout all those Anti Pirates" that have a lower security rating than me? youre logic says that they shuld be ganked by concord also every time they enter hi sec. Pirates alrady have enough obsticals to over come, being able to defend our selves shouldnt be one of them.
I think bounty hunters should not a a security hit they should get a bonus from concord to kill Pirates. Pirates do have it easy. they have the carebear alt to make them money then go for easy kills a gates. There are a few, i admit that make an "honest" living from pirating but most I fear do not.
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Felxia
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Posted - 2006.01.22 19:55:00 -
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Originally by: Kaaii
When did you start playing again Felixa?
been palying the whole time
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